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NFC - McDonald's UK by this summer

The UK already has a big old investment in contactless technology with London's rather successful Oystercard travel scheme, but now the whole Kingdom can get a taste for airborne payments thanks to a new initiative from McDonald's and Visa. The two giants of commerce are uniting to bring NFC tech to all of the former's 1,200 fast food restaurants within the UK, allowing hungry Brits to pay for meals costing up to £15 by simply waving their credit card in front of the till Obi-wan-style. Of course, the real excitement of such large-scale NFC proliferation is in the potential to use those automated tills with your Nexus S (which has an NFC chip built right in) and other devices coming up this year that look set to feature the technology. So yeah, Visa had better be working hard on putting together some mobile apps.
Here's the link:
http://www.engadget.com/2011/01/24/mcdonalds-to-start-accepting-contactless-visa-payments-in-all-u/
We will probably see more NFC by this summer. I know China just released a new NFC app in the market.
Lets gets this NFC ball rolling....

Thanks for the article. Can't wait to use NFC here in the US. I wonder when Google will unlock the transmit/write feature.

most places that accepts MasterCard NFC should easily be able to be updated to also accept Nexus S

*whistles* I'm Lovin' It.
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If you guys pay close attention to SOME debit swipe checkouts.. you can also see a NFC layout. Mostly at gas stations and super markets. Hopefully all they have to do is update...
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leyvatron said:
If you guys pay close attention to SOME debit swipe checkouts.. you can also see a NFC layout. Mostly at gas stations and super markets. Hopefully all they have to do is update...
Something like this...
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you see these alot in CA i see em all over

Too bad that unless I'm mistaken there isn't a way to have your phone work for that I the states yet
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I'm still unclear on this, actually. I heard that the Nexus S NFC chip is read-only, but I heard from somewhere else that that's a software limitation, not a hardware one. If anyone actually has a definitive answer about that, I'd be interested in hearing it.

zorak950 said:
I'm still unclear on this, actually. I heard that the Nexus S NFC chip is read-only, but I heard from somewhere else that that's a software limitation, not a hardware one. If anyone actually has a definitive answer about that, I'd be interested in hearing it.
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What I remember hearing is that because the chip is just literally plastered into the back of the battery cover it is not as functional as it could be had it been designed into the phone.

that's exactly what i'm talking about
currently many GAS stations and big shot coffe shops are already using it.
but it's only for MasterCards
Visa and the others have not yet started deployment, which is kinda weird
leyvatron said:
If you guys pay close attention to SOME debit swipe checkouts.. you can also see a NFC layout. Mostly at gas stations and super markets. Hopefully all they have to do is update...
Something like this...
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AllGamer said:
that's exactly what i'm talking about
currently many GAS stations and big shot coffe shops are already using it.
but it's only for MasterCards
Visa and the others have not yet started deployment, which is kinda weird
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Ermm... My Visa Virtual Wallet Debit Card supports NFC

http://www.engadget.com/2011/01/25/iphone-5-and-ipad-2-will-come-with-nfc-built-in-suggests-well-c/
Looks like iPhone5 and iPad 2 are rumored to have NFC built in. We should definitely see NFC become more mainstream if this is true.

zephiK said:
http://www.engadget.com/2011/01/25/iphone-5-and-ipad-2-will-come-with-nfc-built-in-suggests-well-c/
Looks like iPhone5 and iPad 2 are rumored to have NFC built in. We should definitely see NFC become more mainstream if this is true.
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So we need the iDevices to have the technology before anybody considers it for mass implementation? Sad...

It'd just the reality of it all. No one will invest unless they have a huge amount of people on board, and nexus s won't do that.
We kind of forget to thank the evil apple for a lot of things, for without their phone we wouldn't have companies paying as much attention as they have to the app scene. Especially web apps like internet banking. Before iphone none of the banks here in Australia even bothered with smartphone friendly websites. Then iphone came and they couldn't get their iphone sites up fast enough.

terra_droid said:
So we need the iDevices to have the technology before anybody considers it for mass implementation? Sad...
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No, but NFC will become more mainstream.

zephiK said:
No, but NFC will become more mainstream.
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Although hopefully any NFC schemes are accessible to multiple platforms, otherwise we might see some shops only accepting "iTunes NFC payments"and others "Google NFC payments" and others Visa or Mastercard
Sent from my Nexus One

Lord_Buckington said:
Although hopefully any NFC schemes are accessible to multiple platforms, otherwise we might see some shops only accepting "iTunes NFC payments"and others "Google NFC payments" and others Visa or Mastercard
Sent from my Nexus One
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Hopefully it'll be a universal system, doesn't seem to make much sense if NFC is only limited to iOS or Android. It'll be Android vs iOS war IRL

Samsung Galaxy S2 w/ NFC Indian Version Quick Review (UPDATE: No NFC [for now])

Hey,
I finally got my SGS2 and its awesome!
https://picasaweb.google.com/tanmay.sonawane/SamsungGalaxyS2
I won't go into reviews and stuffs thats already been reviewed and said over 100 times.
I'll just jot down whatever the Indian version has different from its other brothers.
1. So apparently the Indian version ships with a Samsung Leather Case (as seen in the pic below among other standard accessories) :
https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/Rm_zEUrNlkE4djMA-JLVBg?feat=directlink
2. The Indian version seems to come pre-installed with the XWKE8 update. Correct me if wrong but afaik XWKE7 is the latest.
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3. The NFC was so far the highlight feature but I'm still not able to find any mention of it anywhere. If our XDA Korean members can help me find out, that'd be great!
A test with an Application called ZDevice Test was unable to detect the presence of a NFC Chip.
4. Contrary to rumors I didn't find any 8Gb SD Card preinstalled.
5. No Music Hub.
I'll post more as and when I find any differences.
If you have any doubts of your own, feel free to ask! I'm prolly gonna be up all night
Cheers!
Edit:
I took a pic of the back. And I guess this is the NFC Sensor? Can anyone confirm this?
http://cl.ly/3Y2R080f3D0k1A392S0Q/NFC_.jpg
Edit 2:
Ok so I'm pretty sure (according to all comments) the Indian version DOES NOT have NFC. Samsung India gave us false dreams and broke our hearts!
Edit 3:
Ok I've done some initial tests with the battery and there are 2 scenarios:
1. (Yesterday) 1am to 10am (on Standby) : AirPlane Mode On : Battery Drain just 4% (from 60% to 56%)
2. (Today) 3am to 10am (on Standby) : Power Save Mode On : Battery Drain 26% (from 30% to 4%)
So inshort the Android System battery bug exists. Here's a screenshot of the battery tool for usage from 1pm June 3 to 10 am June 4 :
Edit 4 :
According to Letsbuy, the official retail partner for selling the SGS2 in India, NFC will be activated in the Future Ice Cream Sandwich update.
Letsbuy said:
Samsung India Update 04-Jun-2011: All the handsets purchased from Letsbuy.com on pre-order shall be equipped with ON board NFC chipset,Which shall be usable after upgrade of OS Android 3.0 honeycomb(Code name Ice Cream Sandwitch).(Future Update)
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Well the credibility of this post is not yet known. Check out the above reply made here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=14446675&postcount=2411
Edit 5 :
According to this article. NFC Sensor is embedded onto the body in SGS2 as opposed to the backpanel in Nexus S.
So we still might stand a chance with Indian SGS2's having NFC.
http://www.nfc.cc/archives/588

Do you see the yellow tinge on the left with a gray background and low brightness?
Edit: And congrats on being the first of us here to get the Indian version and making the rest of jealous

Yes there is a slight yellow tint when you check it with this page : http://fiddle.jshell.net/qFxsC/1/show/
Looks like this is a global issue and every SGS2 produced so far will have it.
But let me add that this is in no way a major issue.
With normal phone usage I bet it's impossible (if at all) to notice.
I assure you, any normal user, if not told about this yellow tint will not even come to know. Its that unnoticeable!

Thanks for the confirmation.
Was hoping against hope that they'd have fixed it in later production batches, however doesn't look like it.
Enjoy the phone!

Tanmay® said:
Yes there is a slight yellow tint when you check it with this page : http://fiddle.jshell.net/qFxsC/1/show/
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But let me add that this is in no way a major issue.
With normal phone usage I bet it's impossible (if at all) to notice.
I assure you, any normal user, if not told about this yellow tint will not even come to know. Its that unnoticeable!
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Yeah, I agree, looks like it's very minor in most of the cases reported here.
Hope you don't have any of the other possible defects being mentioned here.

No yellow tint on my mobile
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Yea none as of now.
There's no dead or stuck pixel So I'm bit relieved about that!

JSAHITA said:
No yellow tint on my mobile
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Maybe you're not able to see it(which is a blessing in disguise!).
People here are yet to see a picture of a screen without that issue although the severity seems to vary.

Can u list the bands please.
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Can you post a pic of the back and the back cover?

Do you have the Pink Camera Spot problem?
And I don't think the i9100 will have NFC unfortunately, only the i9101.

Hi Tanmay, Congrats! I want to know how does it feel in the hand - too big, manageable, will get used to? I know this has been done to death, but still would like to know.

Hi tanmay for how much time you charged it
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Hi Tanmay!.. Congrats again
Can you post a pic of the backplate and battery?.. Then I can figure out (I've developed on NFC hardware earlier in my Job) if the NFC Antenna are there. Please do.

I've posted a pic of the back. There's a tiny sensor which looks like the NFC sensor to me.
The back cover however, is all plastic and there's no mark or anything like that on the plastic back.

Tanmay® said:
I've posted a pic of the back. There's a tiny sensor which looks like the NFC sensor to me.
The back cover however, is all plastic and there's no mark or anything like that on the plastic back.
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That's not the NFC sensor

Ohh well. Then I'm afraid the Indian version too doesn't have NFC.

Is not having NFC a big issue? Would those NFC stickers be inferior in any way?
BTW just to confirm, are there any other known differences in the version being sold in India (I9100) and elsewhere(I9101 and I9103 etc)? I am planning to get it here in India.
This thread and other websites seem to suggest NFC chip is the only difference:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1103256
BTW does anyone here have any feedback on the Indian mobile retail chain Univercell, they seem to have a pretty reasonable price (if along with a crappy website).

Tanmay® said:
Ohh well. Then I'm afraid the Indian version too doesn't have NFC.
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This is how NFC is embedded in Nexus S,
Does your SGS2 posses anything similar on the back cover?
P.S.
To read more about NFC and how it is attached in Nexus S & how it works, heres an article that might help you,
http://www.anandtech.com/Show/Index...ndroid-23-review-gingerbread-for-the-holidays

And, if you can't find this under settings -> Wireless & Network Settings, then we should get register a complaint against Samsung for cheating us,

Samsung BT S-Pen

Samsung has unveiled a new variant of the S-Pen, which comes bundled with all Note devices, called the BT S-Pen (BT standing for Bluetooth). It is, as far as I am aware, a regular S-Pen (albeit much larger for greater comfort) that connects to your Note device via Bluetooth and allows you to utilise it as a wireless-headset of sorts. Although bundled with pre-release test units of the Note 10.1 for journalists at their press conference, it simply utilises the regular technology of our Note 5.3 devices' S-Pens with Bluetooth to enable it to make and receive calls (meaning that it should work on the Note GT-N7000). Since one of the major complaints of the Note is the embarrassment of holding it up to your ear to make a phone call, I think this S-Pen is a fantastic accessory for the Note series. It can be charged via a Micro-USB port connected to the Note devices and apparently has 130 hours of standby time or 3 hours of talk time (not the best, but if you are like me and don't make too many calls that isn't a problem). Having been wanting a larger S-Pen to use around the house (the small one is fine out and about, but at home something larger would undeniably be more comfortable), this seems perfect. I shall be shelling out the cash for one as soon as it is available here in the UK, unless it is ridiculously priced. Who else likes the look of this?
Read the article here!

Link?

Completely off-topic, but am I the only one finding the Note's community drastically dwindling? This is such a shame as, despite not having the best specification around in terms of raw power, the Note is still a very capable device and I think there are untapped opportunities for applications that would be useful when out of the house (hence, no good for a tablet which often are more reserved to home use and not a general pop to the store) but would not work on a regular phone's screen. In a way, I wish Samsung wasn't unveiling a Note 2 in a matter of days in Berlin. Since I am on contract and won't be able to upgrade till over a year, it's a shame to see the community here dwindling - and things will only be worse once the Note 2 is released.

Brad387 said:
Completely off-topic, but am I the only one finding the Note's community drastically dwindling? This is such a shame as, despite not having the best specification around in terms of raw power, the Note is still a very capable device and I think there are untapped opportunities for applications that would be useful when out of the house (hence, no good for a tablet which often are more reserved to home use and not a general pop to the store) but would not work on a regular phone's screen. In a way, I wish Samsung wasn't unveiling a Note 2 in a matter of days in Berlin. Since I am on contract and won't be able to upgrade till over a year, it's a shame to see the community here dwindling - and things will only be worse once the Note 2 is released.
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I don't think the community is dwindling. Jellybean development is doing awesome, its just young.

andreww88 said:
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I added one to an article. It also includes a video of it being demoed on the AT&T 4G version of the Galaxy Note.

andreww88 said:
I don't think the community is dwindling. Jellybean development is doing awesome, its just young.
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Hopefully so. Since the S2 is apparently getting Jelly Bean, there is almost a definitive chance the Note will get Jelly Bean also! Let's just hope that Samsung finally fix the brick bug, which is a great cripple towards ROM development, eh?

Okay, so this is pretty cool. But I think it is suppose to be MORE for the Note 10.1 than the phone Note because it's huge, that wouldn't be comfortable or practical at all for our phone.

andreww88 said:
Okay, so this is pretty cool. But I think it is suppose to be MORE for the Note 10.1 than the phone Note because it's huge, that wouldn't be comfortable or practical at all for our phone.
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It isn't that large and, for home use at least, it is still useful.

Brad387 said:
It isn't that large and, for home use at least, it is still useful.
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Maybe for some people....but I won't be buying it.

BT S-Shoe from Samsung
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pretty cool.. hope it comes as a part of note 2...

Weird. I think I would rather be seen talking into a slightly large phone than a pen.

I don't know how practical the Bluetooth pen will be. If your talking to someone with the pen, it's going to be very hard to use it to take notes or whatever.
And one handed operation on the note 5" our 10.1" wrote holding the pen to your ear is going to be impossible to do.
I guess it's only practical if you don't want to pull out the note from your pocket.
I still think head sets or earpiece are the way to go for hands free talking
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sounds cool, but does anyone actually use the s=pen that comes with the phone ? when i was using my note as my full time phone ( dont really use it anymore ) i think i used the pen for the first 2 days and haven't pulled it out in at least 6 months

Does the note 4 have FM radio or the hardware for one?

Cant seem to find an answer to this anywhere, here in aus we don't have unlimited data so streaming apps are out of the question has samsung finally woken up to itself and put in an fm radio? Or at least the hardware inside the phone to use an after market app like spirit FM?
Although the note 4 is full of awesomeness, If not i think its time for me to look else where for a phone maybe the next HTC will be up to par?
thanks for any help.

wow so even people that own the phone dont know if it has an fm radio, this is crazy i cant find the answer to this anywhere....

I don't think many people here have Note 4 yet, but judging from the past I don't think it will have one. Now funny part is, almost all Samsung phones in the past had radio hardware but it was disabled. There was a developer who wrote a program to enable it in some phones, but he speculated that for example Note 3 had antenna shorted to the ground, so even with his program it wouldn't work, unless you were brave enough to actually do some soldering. If I had to speculate, I would lean towards carriers requesting radio to be eliminated, they don't make money if you use free fm radio, instead of streaming, but that could mean some versions could have it. In many places Note 4 should be available any day now, so we should know more then.

it does have fm chip
Only sprint allows you to use it. The rest of the carriers have not activated it yet. Read the next radio website for more information

I believe Sprint Note 4 uses specific modem (radio) which includes fm radio tuner too. It is not about carriers not activating that feature, it is not included in hardware in other models of Note 4.
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Any update on this? I own SM-910F, Orange carrier here in Romania.
I also don't seem to find the info about built-in FM chip into this specific Note 4 model.
For all it matters, I do know it's Snapdragon CPU powered.
If I rooted the phone, would I be able to use the FM chip inside?
@ OP: have you been able to dig up more on this? Thanks!

bbbobbbo said:
Any update on this? I own SM-910F, Orange carrier here in Romania.
I also don't seem to find the info about built-in FM chip into this specific Note 4 model.
For all it matters, I do know it's Snapdragon CPU powered.
If I rooted the phone, would I be able to use the FM chip inside?
@ OP: have you been able to dig up more on this? Thanks!
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Root is required, You could try borrowing the apk for FM radio and the lib files from a "sprinter" and placing in your system. Thats the place to start.

Look at Nextradio apps supported devices page, find your device in my case Note 4.
Unless a Boost Mobile, Sprint, or Virgin Mobile version of a Samsung Galaxy Note 4 differs from a AT&T or Verizon version then I highly doubt any version of the Note 4 is lacking an FM radio chip. I recall AT&T unlocking the feature in the near future for the Note 4 *hint*. Not to mention Samsung purposely didn't advertise the fact *hint*. So logic says yes it's there and for some reason carriers are playing the "we didn't know" game and prefer to force you to use your data so it would seem. Since voice, and text is unlimited nowadays. I've called Verizon and even their reps are advertising it doesn't exist for the Note 4. But I know better! xD

Ci2e said:
I recall AT&T unlocking the feature in the near future for the Note 4 *hint*. Not to mention Samsung purposely didn't advertise the fact *hint*.
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Wow, that's great news. (And I even thought this ropic was dead, even more so with recent note 5 hipe and all).
Really appreciate your contribution to this and since I'm in Europe and not following US mobile tech events, if you could just let us know whether or not AT&T unlocking FM ever happens, would mean a great deal.
Still havent rooted my note 4 and moreover I'm in greater doubt than ever before, if it's worth doing it - perhaps time to sell it is near and it unrooted means better resell value.
If I would just know for sure if my specific SM 910F model has real physical inbuilt FM hardware chip, I'd definitely go for it.

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Look at Nextradio apps supported devices page, find your device in my case Note 4.
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As you said, it is there but only for aprint , boost and vergin. I'm Orange.
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As you said, it is there but only for aprint , boost and vergin. I'm Orange.
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This only means those carriers are enabling the FM chip. Boost and Virgin both use Sprint towers I believe so they all have Sprint hardware with their own front end.
*You all should take into account that I'm merely researching and interpreting it all to my logic. It may differ from yours.

Any updates on Radio tuner enabled? I'm just curious if you got it to work.

What would be the case if I bought my Note 4 phone unlocked, from an electronics sales Samsung representative (not from a carrier)? is there a way to find out if the hardware is installed?

I have a Samsung Galaxy Note 4 SM_N910G with Resurrection Remix 5.8.3 on it. How do I activate it if i do not have any carrier to go too because I live in australia.

[Q] What is the hidden chip inside Note 4 (N910C) Battery cover?

I found a hidden chip inside the battery of my note 4 just underneath the samsung sticker of the battery. My friend told me that this chip is used to track and hack our personal data and things. Is that correct? Does anyone know anything about this?

It's most likely the NFC chip. The battery clearly labels it below Samsung logo as "near field communication". As for stealing data they don't need hidden chip for that. Your phone has all the data and an Internet connection. Don't worry too much abt it

If you are worried about being hack then just disable the NFC function on your Note 4, it's a very simple process.

But the same chip is no samsung galaxy s2 and s4 but these devices are not having any NFC SO why there is the chip in the battery

ngupta93 said:
But the same chip is no samsung galaxy s2 and s4 but these devices are not having any NFC SO why there is the chip in the battery
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That's NFC chip. Other manufacturers/model usually put it inside the back cover.
Don't worry with it

snugroho3 said:
That's NFC chip. Other manufacturers/model usually put it inside the back cover.
Don't worry with it
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but sir on Samsung s2 there is no NFC

ngupta93 said:
but sir on Samsung s2 there is no NFC
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Yeah, that is true. I had a SGSII and I can honestly confirm that it didn't have NFC capabilities. However some of the later LTE models did have NFC capabilities with the antenna built into the battery like the Note 4.

GT-I9100p is Galaxy S2 NFC
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Don't have a data connection. Coz they don't need a chip to steal your data. They can hack it anytime. Moreover these are patented & US Govt approved, so I believe they should be safe to use

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GT-I9100p is Galaxy S2 NFC
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That version was released much later in the European markets. But the original GT-I9100 didn't have NFC capabilities.

i9100 was original version with same board like i9100p, but without NFC chip on it. You can even flash i9100p with i9100 FW, but without NFC options in settings menu

So if you change the battery
So that means if you change your battery (which was the centre of Samsung advertisement for long time) you'll lose NFC function! WTF!

arunkrishnanr said:
I found a hidden chip inside the battery of my note 4 just underneath the samsung sticker of the battery. My friend told me that this chip is used to track and hack our personal data and things. Is that correct? Does anyone know anything about this?
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What I m not understanding is if Samsung want to track us & wants to fix chip, they can put chip in mother board & may we will never come to know, why in easily replaceable battery.

jdomadia said:
What I m not understanding is if Samsung want to track us & wants to fix chip, they can put chip in mother board & may we will never come to know, why in easily replaceable battery.
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what samsung wants is for you to purchase an original battery, if they put the NFC chip inside the motherboard, you could purchase any cheap battery and would still have the NFC chip, but if they put it in the battery, you would need to purchase an original battery to keep that NFC function at US$30 instead of US$5, i use NFC so i would prefer it inside the phone and not battery tho.