I'm trying to search as many threads as possible from my tapatalk app but I believe its buried deep somewhere. I just wanted to know how can I tell if a have a 0004 novatec or Epson. I searched Google but I keep landing in threads that just compare the two or which one is better with the fps hack etc. Is there a command I could enter in terminal to check?
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When you change your screen brightness with the widget, if it instantly adjusts it's an epson and if it transitions smoothly its a nova.
Agg there is a command but heck if I can remember it. Its probably buried in on of the old threads about fps cap. Hopefully someone will come in with the command. Kind of a moot point now that htc had integrated the fps fix into the stock kernel.
Well from what you said about the Widget and etc it seems to be a 0004 nova but I could be wrong lol. My whites seem really white and not pinkish but I just wanna be sure. It would Answer some weird probs I've had since I got it for Xmas.
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You can check dmesg for epson or nova.
dmesg | grep espon
dmesg | grep nova
Whichever one gives you results is the screen you have.
NHLWil said:
You can check dmesg for epson or nova.
dmesg | grep espon
dmesg | grep nova
Whichever one gives you results is the screen you have.
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Yup I have a 0004 nova thanks guys
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Yes sir. Terminal, Connectbot, whatever you use.
New to mine was manufacture on 12/20/2010 u can check on the battery cover ..and is a white 004 nova,I thought they had stopped using nova since the 003 ver,,,weird that they using them again I wasn't getting used to the purple hue but now am staring to get used to it!!!
jocampo86 said:
New to mine was manufacture on 12/20/2010 u can check on the battery cover ..and is a white 004 nova,I thought they had stopped using nova since the 003 ver,,,weird that they using them again I wasn't getting used to the purple hue but now am staring to get used to it!!!
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It does kind of have a purple hue ; I wonder why they went with 2 different screens maybe one of them ran out of supply.
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Yes, the newer batches seem to be using the Novatek displays again. Many people who are new to the EVO or got replacements lately report getting them.
SEARCHING revealed this thread - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=860417
Specifically this post - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=9699646&postcount=65
Nope, you are indeed wrong/incorrect.
Rev 003 Evo's were manufactured with *TWO* types of screens; one made by Novatech and another made by epson. As HTC improperly estimated how well Evo's would sell, the two manufacturers were necessary to produce the phones without selling out.
The Novatech screen is the oldest, and can be found on both 002 and 003 Revs. It is usually described as "cool" (tone wise) or "blue", with a tendency to wash out blacks and grays.
The screen made by Epson is the newest, starting with 003 and beyond (I suppose its on 004 but i've never had a chance to mess with one). This one is usually described as being "warmer" or "yellow", with the ability to better replicate blacks and dark grays.
How can you tell if there really is a difference between screens? Well, there is and it's simple to test. Go to settings>brightness. Change the brightness up or down. If it fades to the inputted brightness, you have a Novatech (Nova) screen. If it doesn't fade (i.e just jumps to the next brightness level) then you've got an Epson (Epson) screen. Noobs.
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According to that, newer ones have the epson panel.
Elsewhere in the thread, the differences between the two include the epson panel having warmer colors, and no transition between brightness levels. The nova panel has cooler (whiter) colors and transition is more fluid.
Not sure of what other benefits one has over the other...?
My evo has the nova and the girl at radio shack said the shipment mine was on 1 week b4 Xmas and it's a 0004. I hear having a 0004 nova is rare so im keeping it. Plus my mom has a white 0003 epson she got 4 Xmas . Also and I think mine looks waaaay better.
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Yours looks like the one on the right then, correct?
I guess ultimately, it's a user preference thing. I had several different garmins, and found the ones with the softer white (like the one on the left in the pic above) yielded better visibility in the day time, especially during mid day when the sun was over head (on two wheels).
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Yours looks like the one on the right then, correct?
I guess ultimately, it's a user preference thing. I had several different garmins, and found the ones with the softer white (like the one on the left in the pic above) yielded better visibility in the day time, especially during mid day when the sun was over head (on two wheels).
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Yes it looks like the right one. I have horrible vision and looking at my moms just doesn't feel right. The brighter one goes with my eyes lol.
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The AM/PM area on the notification bar is starting to burn in on the screen. If you download "Screen test" from the market, you can see this on the red and blue tests. I saw someone on another forum mention this, so I thought I'd check, and sure enough it's there.
Don't really see it becoming a huge problem, but it still sucks.
Use the 24h clock
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Confirmed on the blue screen. Hopefully this doesn't affect anything over time.
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Have you guys had your phone since it was released? I've had my 11 days and I ran that screen test and saw no burn in.
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Have you guys had your phone since it was released? I've had my 11 days and I ran that screen test and saw no burn in.
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I bought it the day it came out.
i've had mine since day 1, no burn in as of yet
I bought mine 2 days after it came out and mine shows no signs of it.... *knocks on wood*
Although my notification bar is black which might have saved me.
Im seeing a little starting to show. Is this something to be worried about?
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Im seeing a little starting to show. Is this something to be worried about?
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If it gets too bad I'm going to return the phone. I've had the phone about two weeks and I can already see the burn in happening pretty bad. This can ruin pretty much anything you do on the phone (games, etc.).
Yep, got mine the week after launch and I can see a hint of it starting too. Is it recoverable or is this something inherent with samoled? Does it happen with lcd? Some of the alternative launchers give you the option to hide the notification bar. Could that help? I tried adw at first but actually got better battery life with touchwiz so I went back to it.
*update* been trying the jscreenfix from the market & switched to 24hr clock with adw hiding the notification bar most of the time. Can't see faint burn-in anymore during screentest app. The vibrant & captivate forums have alot of info on this as well.
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Yep its really hard to see but under the grey screen I can see the AM/PM logo. I know there is a Jscreenfix out there to help with stuck pixels and screen burn. Another app that might work well is the hypnotic spiral set to black and white. I have it sped up a bit, ill get back with results.
This shouldn't even be possible with samoled....
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It's very possible, check out the Nexus One forums about screen burn. If you are talking about the principle that this should not be happening with this new of a technology then I agree.
I've got a line of green running down the right side of my screen that's pretty evident while displaying whites, is anybody else experiencing the same thing or have any idea what's causing this?
The green line is normal.
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The green line is normal if it is running down the left side right on the edge of the screen. It is most evident when displaying white/gray most notably when using the window shade.
No burn in here, and I use my phone alot.
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The green line is normal.
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The green line is normal if it is running down the left side right on the edge of the screen. It is most evident when displaying white/gray most notably when using the window shade.
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Yes I'm sorry, I mistyped while writing that post, it is on the left side. Thanks for the reassurance.
No problem. This burn-in is OCD hell. ONCE SEEN CAN NOT UNSEE!!
Had mine since it came out. I anticipated this with super amoled so I just keep it locked with the screen off. I checked and saw no burn in. Just don't abuse your phone by leaving the beastly screen on all the damn time.
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I have never kept my screen on a static image for very long at all. The problem here is the items that don't move on the OS which is mostly the AM/PM white text. Putting this on military time should ease this a bit but this sounds to be something thats going to happen to all of our phones eventually. Also I do not consider keeping a phone screen on for a bit to be abusing it at all. I call this normal use especially when you set the phone to stay on during debugging mode. I'm not going to make excuses for this phone and say its not an issue. On the other hand also not going to return it because of a hardly noticeable burn-in. Using jscreenfix for a couple of hours now has *seemed* to fade the AM/PM burn a bit. This could just be my eyes playing tricks but it does seem to be less noticeable.
So my excitement kinda came to an early end last night. I got my second replacement mt4g due to a bad screen. This one is perfect...except that when I was reading some text on a page with a white background, I noticed that from bottom to top, the white gradually goes from white to this yellowish tint. I will post a picture of it later on tonight.
My question is, do you have/had this problem and did you end up returning it or did it go away kind of like when this was happening to the iphone 4? I really hope this really doesn't become a full-blown issue like with the washed colors, because then I would have to request a 3rd replacement and make sure that it doesn't have dead pixels, dust under the screen, washed out colors, yellow tint, crooked ffc, creaky buttons, and gaps around the bezel. Thanks.
Here is an example of what i'm talking about except my display is white at the bottom and gradually goes to the color of the phone that is on the right, at the top.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=856792
Here you go guys:
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(sorry for the link, I haven't posted 8+ times yet)
My bosses phone has looked like that since day 1
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My bosses phone has looked like that since day 1
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Do you think that the problem is improper screen calibration and all I have to do is wait for a software update?
225 views and one reply?? Really guys?? Not trying to sound like I'm whining, but this is a serious problem and I think i'm not the only one. I just received my replacement, and it too has this yellowish tint towards the top of the screen. This will be my 4th time that I will be requesting a replacement, so in total so far, 4 defective phones.
ur phone has a bad screen. when black looks more light greyish and when white doesn't quite look white, bad screen.
return it, these are things u wanna check within the first few days!
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I'm sorry, but it's really difficult to tell based on the picture you linked. Is there any way you can take a comparison photo with a good screen?
I can't see anything wrong from that photo. It will take something more than this to let others know if you have a problem.
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ur phone has a bad screen. when black looks more light greyish and when white doesn't quite look white, bad screen.
return it, these are things u wanna check within the first few days!
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The blacks never looked grayish, the colors were bright, crisp and vibrant, it was when looking at something with a white background. This issue has nothing to do with the washed screens that people are getting.
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I can't see anything wrong from that photo. It will take something more than this to let others know if you have a problem.
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I figured it out based on a chat I had with a friend. I think that the backlight was improperly calibrated or something. Sorry that I can't take a better picture as I have already received my exchange which is much much better, the light is just more distributed evenly then the previous phone. Plus it doesn't creak, the ffc is dead centered, and light doesn't leak through between the bezel and the screen at the top of the phone. After 4 exchanges(5 phones total), I finally got a "perfect" device.
Here is a side-by-side shot sort of(I returned the defective device before I could think of take a pic of them together due to my excitement!)
You can easily tell that the screen of the phone on the right has way more light at the bottom of it and the top doesn't which results in a more obvious yellowish tint. The phone on the left (good one) doesn't have it as bad, the light is distributed evenly. Both were on auto brightness. The good display's(right) brightness is down a bit more but it doesn't matter since I tried to increase and decrease the brightness on the defective one(left) and it made no difference.
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Can you guys with cameras that have manual control test something for me?
Following on from a post by someone else about weird blotches on an all black image displayed on the screen, I checked mine today in pitch darkness and noticed a faint 2 inch or so of blackness on one edge of the screen along with smaller blotches. It doesn't appear to be as visible as the other poster's though but I exaggerated in in the photo so it's easier to see and settings posted below for people to check as well.
This is only visible on an all black screen. This does not exist on any of the S2's I've owned. I'll check my dad's S3 tonight when I go see him in the same way but the way to photograph it to keep the results consistent are as follows:
Stick camera and phone in a cupboard and...
Phone screen brightness: 50%
Camera ISO: 200
Camera Shutter: 15 seconds
Camera Aperture: f/4.5
Remember to pre-focus and use the 10sec timer to avoid shake
Those settings will over exaggerate the effect as shown in my photo below but it makes it easier for everyone to see as you do have to focus your eyes in reality and it's not immediately obvious unless you're in pitch darkness and looking at an all black screen.
I don't know how I feel about this though but if it's visible using the above camera settings for lots of people then I'll leave it as is.
Again, it's only visible on an all black screen so make sure your image that you load is all black and not grey or something Make sure screen timeout is set to at least a minute to avoid the screen going off!
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Thanks!
I used this free app to notice my blotches. It worked great for me. Your method has alot of steps in my opinion.
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What free app? It's a black image with screen timeout extended. The rest is your camera settings to be able to fairly photograph the screen for everyone to compare, an app can't do that
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I used this free app to notice my blotches. It worked great for me. Your method has alot of steps in my opinion.
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Which free app? What exactly did you do in order to notice them?
Did you see these threads Robbie?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1700350
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1683483
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1686633
I didn't see those nope! Thanks for the links. Seems strange though as the white S3 belonging to my dad has none of the blotches, neither does a pebble blue on another forum. My 2 S2 handsets had no issues either.
Oh well!
My first phone: (F/4, ISO 800, 20sec)
Second phone: (F/4, ISO 800, 30sec)
The guy at the store (**** Smith in Australia) was unable to reproduce the issue in-store, so swapped the phone out and said I'd have to go to samsung if I reported the same issue again. The 2nd phone still has the issue, but as you can see, nowhere near as bad... still... not very good is it.
My 2 year SGS1 had about 4 spots - never noticed any issue. The first SGS3 was definitely noticeable just scrolling through system menus at night.
That's rather bad^^ I've emailed mobiflefun with picture so let's see what they say.
Suggest you up your exposure (duration and/or ISO) to make it a bit more noticeable. Looks like you've got a fair amount of guff in the top-left corner.
:/ dodgy manufacturing.
I don't have an SGSIII yet, but I noticed pretty much this same thing on my Galaxy Note. One night I was viewing an image with an all black screen and it had these weird blotches on the screen. I had never noticed them before.
Actually mine does has it as well but I can't seem to see it under normal conditions
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Actually mine does has it as well but I can't seem to see it under normal conditions
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This is AMOLED. My PS Vita has same thing. Nothing you can do about it.
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I have it too. Looks like a crack from the inside out on the bottom left corner.
I can see it in Settings/led notification screen at the bottom at night with screen brightness low.
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This is AMOLED. My PS Vita has same thing. Nothing you can do about it.
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My galaxy nexus doesn't have this so it's not all of them.
I saw around 10 to 15 blotches on my screen,not at all noticable in everyday use only when i looked very closely i saw them scattered around the middle.As its my first amoled phone,i want to know is it harmful for the screen?Shd i ask for replacement?Though i dont have any pink spots or tints watsoever.
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My galaxy nexus doesn't have this so it's not all of them.
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My 4 GNexus did.
Wow this looks like a widespread issue. Samsung needs to know about this
I assume samsung knew even before shipping the units.
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Actually mine does has it as well but I can't seem to see it under normal conditions
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This "issue" is known since the SGS1. Is the leakege from the AMOLED display. One thing to consider i only have a line about half a CM in the same place where you have the circle mark. Maybe a manufacture failure?
quicker way to test.
1 - dark room
2 set auto brightness off and screen to lowest brightness.
go to phone and dial *#0*#
click vibrate test which will display black screen.
and then check....
p.s been through this in other threads here but mky local telco had 26 with this issue went to another telco and got a blue one today - and no issue whatsoever...
Seems like LG uses own LGDisplay matrices as well as 3rd party JDI matrices
The display type can be found by typing these commands in terminal(there are some free apps in play store)
su
dmesg | grep -i panel
You also need to be rooted
Which one your G3 got?
Has it yellowish warm or more blueish cool tint on white?
Is it to dim on 100% auto off, or is it too bright?
Reference to start with
This didn't work for me. The commands work, but it doesn't pull the display manufacturer.
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This didn't work for me. The commands work, but it doesn't pull the display manufacturer.
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commands must be issued immediately after G3 is rebooted, dmesg is log file which is flooded fast
It's not Sprint vs ATT. It's probably just the production batch.
I bought two G3s from ATT on day -1 back and white. The black one, which is mine definitely has a more warmer tone ( I don't want to say yellow ). So I don't know...
What I did I went to ATT store to take a look and interestingly all the display models have a whiter screen... but when I asked to replace or compare my phone the new one out of the box had the exact warmer tint...
OK, I have an LGD one. Which one is supposed to be better?
O also have LGD on V10a-EUR-XX firmware.
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It's not Sprint vs ATT. It's probably just the production batch
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That's the point of my poll, if we'll find out that G3 don't use panels from 3rd manufacturers, then we'll know that different screens are just batch or calibration and NOT manufacturer related
The G2 is the same, lgd or jdi screens. Appearance-wise, there wasn't much differentiation though. But it did create a mess with custom kernels because the panel drivers are a little different and no one even suspected that they weren't all LG made.
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Wish I could check mine (no root yet), but I bought two from Sprint and their screens differ just like in your Sprint/Att video.
I have the LG panel, and I haven't noticed a cast or tint. But one usually wouldn't, without a properly calibrated monitor to compare it to. Our brains adjust for bad color just fine, which is why we need hardware calibrators in digital photography.
I have the LG panel. I assume that's the superior one and LG uses the JDI one just because they can't produce theirs fast enough.
I have the Sprint variant. Not blue, but definitely not warm/yellow. Also, it is BRIGHT at 100%. Bright enough to almost start washing out the colors.
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I have the LG display. Verizon variant. Very bright at 100%. I keep it at 60% which is plenty strong for me (with auto turned on). Cool colors, nothing indicating of yellow.
Panel Name = LGD 1440p SIC video mode dsi primary panel
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I'm on the LGD as well. On a D855
LGD as well, T-mobile D851
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it worked after the reboot as stated. thanks!
LGD here on a F400S and its bright!
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The G2 is the same, lgd or jdi screens. Appearance-wise, there wasn't much differentiation though. But it did create a mess with custom kernels because the panel drivers are a little different and no one even suspected that they weren't all LG made.
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No, I've read many times that some G2 screen are yellowish, too, and some has more blueish whites. But I thought that instead of Nexus 5 which almost all items got JDI panels, G2 in contrary all had LG panels until I've read that G2 too sometimes got JDI. So I thought maybe even G3 has panels from different makers
And drivers, you mean custom home baked kernels?
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No, I've read many times that some G2 screen are yellowish, too, and some has more blueish whites. But I thought that instead of Nexus 5 which almost all items got JDI panels, G2 in contrary all had LG panels until I've read that G2 too sometimes got JDI. So I thought maybe even G3 has panels from different makers
And drivers, you mean custom home baked kernels?
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My Nexus 5 had a very yellow display out of the box which I hated. Thankfully there were a ton of colour settings after the custom kernels were released.
LGD here D855.
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I have had my Verizon 64 GB Note 5 for about 6 days now and since day 1 I have noticed that the screen color when on a white background is not uniform. My phone appears to have a section that has a red hue to it around the left side and more of a blueish hue to the right side of the screen. It is very noticeable on anything with a white background. I seem to notice it the most when I am reading text. I have gone back to the Verizon store I got the phone from and looked at their demo model and it seems to have the same issue. I also went to my local Best Buy and looked at 3 other Note 5's and all except one of Best Buy's seemed to have the issue.
Pull up a white background on your Note 5. Do you see this? I am going to take my phone back and swap it out this weekend, But with so many that I have seen with the issue I am not confident that the new one will be any better.
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Got some pics of mine. NOTE!!!! Pictures do slightly exaggerate the issue
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What setting do you have your screen mode as? (Adaptive, basic amoled etc)
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What setting do you have your screen mode as? (Adaptive, basic amoled etc)
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I have it on adaptive but I can see it on all modes.
Most likely a defective screen, go get it warrantied. I have seen display defects for all brands.
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Most likely a defective screen, go get it warrantied. I have seen display defects for all brands.
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I wonder if a bad batch got shipped to my area? It's strange that 4/5 of the phones that I looked at had the issue. This is making me hopeful that I will get a good one when I go swap it out
Yes I have the same issue, imported phone from Singapore.
My 32gb Verizon model has this, except it's my right half of the screen that has the reddish hue. I'm planning on swapping it for a 64gb before my 14 days are up anyway, or else I'd have already returned it. It's incredibly annoying while reading text.
It's like the matrix effect. Once you've taken the blue pill you can't ignore it. I see tinting on every single amoled device I look at now.
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It's like the matrix effect. Once you've taken the blue pill you can't ignore it. I see tinting on every single amoled device I look at now.
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Ha! I have been looking at all my co workers phones and I do see uneven back lighting on almost all of them but none have 2 distinctly different colors on each side of the screen like the Note 5 does. I could handle the uneven back lighting but the 2 colors on the Note 5 make me cringe every time I look at it for more than a few seconds. My co worker's iPhone 6 plus has a fairly uneven backlight from left to right but there are no specific colors illuminated more than others so it's easy to ignore at least for me.
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Ha! I have been looking at all my co workers phones and I do see uneven back lighting on almost all of them but none have 2 distinctly different colors on each side of the screen like the Note 5 does. I could handle the uneven back lighting but the 2 colors on the Note 5 make me cringe every time I look at it for more than a few seconds. My co worker's iPhone 6 plus has a fairly uneven backlight from left to right but there are no specific colors illuminated more than others so it's easy to ignore at least for me.
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Way to go Neo! No turning back now! Hahaha.
Any pictures of what this looks like?
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I don't see any discoloration on my screen. Did I get the only good unit?
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No discoloration or uneven tones here. Perfect display. 32GB Black Sapphire
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Any pictures of what this looks like?
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I will see if I can get a picture of it but I am not sure if a camera would pick it up. It's fairly subtle. Either way it's still annoying.
Deleted since I thought I had discoloration but didn't after having a few co-workers take a look at my phone.
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RMXO said:
Any pictures of what this looks like?
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Got some pictures... Added them to the OP
You know what's weird. I owned a Note 4 on 3 of the 4 big carriers and the AT&T one was the only one that was bearable. It seems like its not as bad on the Korean models, which seem to be exclusive to AT&T.
This is what it looks like on mine
I have the 64gb White from AT&T and I cannot see this at all on mine. Colors look fairly cool throughout, not seeing any discoloration or even uneven backlighting.
no discolouration from what i can tell. though i do notice the colours (or WB) of the panel are different than my S6e panel which is warmer in all Display Modes (at full brightness).
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