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I just wanted to say that I got my EVO replacement due to the screen separation issue. Anyway, as soon as I got the replacement phone I noticed two things that were different from my first EVO.
1. The back cover: The back cover on this EVO is a little darker than my original and seems to be made of that scratch resistant rubber plastic on phones like the Palm Pixi. It's not as rubbery as the Pixi but it's there and it's definitely different from my first phone.
2. Screen Brightness: The screen on the replacement is much brighter than my first EVO. Even at the highest setting on my original I was a bit disappointed coming from the Nexus One. This second phone is easily as bright as the N1.
Could the phone really be a little different this early on in production?
Whats the hardware version?
It says 0003. I never checked my first EVO though.
I received an 0003 on launch day. It does not have any of the issues so far that people have been plagued with.. I have noticed that the light from the buttons bleeds through to the lcd screen which is annoying and is more obvious depending on what is being displayed on the screen. There is not screen seperation or light gap between the frame though.
I have one of the first batch EVOs and mine says version 0003 as well. Maybe they didn't bother changing that information?
I wish there was a way to compare. Either way, I'll probably wait and see if my EVO gets any worse within my 30 days before I ask them to swap it out for a newer version. But I also don't have too many issues with it. My touch screen works properly (not sure if there's an issue or not because I tried it on my pillow again this afternoon and it worked fine) and my screen has not separated yet (though the light does still leak through a teeny bit).
I have version 2 and I haven't had any of the issues people are mentioning. Hopefully I don't have to swap mine out.
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I've got a v2 and no issues except for the ground one which I don't really give a crap about.
I have version 002 and I don't have any problems I hope. I do get the problem with my screen not mounted correctly so when it is on a table the screen is not working properly
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All 3 of ours were 0002 from sprint.com on launch day; all 3 have the glass problem and mine has the blown speaker problem.
Hoping when they get them back in stock, the exchanges will be better.
Yeah, I also have a 002, most likely because I have a Google IO phone. It seems to have none of the problems that are being talked about—not even light leakage or touchscreen. Only problem out there is the 30FPS cap and that's established to be kernel/firmware. Seems like the first true production run of EVOs had some shoddy work...
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I just wanted to say that I got my EVO replacement due to the screen separation issue. Anyway, as soon as I got the replacement phone I noticed two things that were different from my first EVO.
1. The back cover: The back cover on this EVO is a little darker than my original and seems to be made of that scratch resistant rubber plastic on phones like the Palm Pixi. It's not as rubbery as the Pixi but it's there and it's definitely different from my first phone.
2. Screen Brightness: The screen on the replacement is much brighter than my first EVO. Even at the highest setting on my original I was a bit disappointed coming from the Nexus One. This second phone is easily as bright as the N1.
Could the phone really be a little different this early on in production?
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Odd because my Evo is from launch day and has the rising screen issue but it also has the same back cover and very bright screen you seem to be describing on your replacement. I kept comparing my Evo to my HD2 and saying wow the Evo screen is so much nicer and brighter for some reason.
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I received an 0003 on launch day. It does not have any of the issues so far that people have been plagued with.. I have noticed that the light from the buttons bleeds through to the lcd screen which is annoying and is more obvious depending on what is being displayed on the screen. There is not screen seperation or light gap between the frame though.
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Have you tried pressing down on the glass just below the 4 touch buttons? I had the light leakage since day one but I had read about it in a few tech blogs who demoed the Evo before launch and said they noticed that so I figured it was just a flaw to live with on most if not all Evo's. But now that my screen raised up and can move up and down a bit, when I press down hard enough (which isn't very hard), the light leakage goes away until I remove my fingers or until the screen decides to pop back out later.
Guess I am not the only one noticing this:
http://androidforums.com/htc-evo-4g/104212-hardware-build-3-totally-different-handset.html
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How do i find out what version of phone do i have, is it on the box with all the bar codes?
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How do i find out what version of phone do i have, is it on the box with all the bar codes?
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Menu >> Settings >> About Phone >> Hardware Information >> Hardware Version
Second EVO (replacement for first.
Im currently on the second EVO now and I too niticed a difference in the brightness from the first one. This one it brighter and the bottom 4 buttons are evenly lit on this EVO. The Hardware on this current EVO is 0003. I dont know what the first EVO was. I am currently waiting for sprint to get more in stock so they can send me a 3rd replacement. This model has the yellowish vertical lines in the screen,
Today I went to use the front facing camera and the phone froze, rebooted, and now uses the back cam no matter what setting I put it on. It seems like the front cam is nonexistent. I have done a factory reset and still nothing. I dont understand what happend to HTC's quality controll from Hero to EVO. The Hero I had had ZERO issues and now these phones are falling apart right out of the box. Way to go HTC!!!
I have 002, having the glass issue along with light bleed. Right now it's not that bad when I have a case on it. But I am going to get TEP and get a new phone a year lol.
Okay so I am on my third Vibrant. My first Vibrant was perfect in every way except battery (which seems to be a general issue) and the settings touchkey become unresponsive (which is the reason I changed it). I got my second replacement in the mail and noticed a huge different in screen colors:
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The one on the left is the second Vibrant while the one on the right is the first Vibrant. Seeing other Vibrants - in videos, at the store, etc. - I figured my second Vibrant's screen was defective so I called in and had T-Mobile replace it again. However, the third Vibrant I just got seems to have the same problem as the second Vibrant.
(The first Vibrant was a 7/11, the second was a 7/19, and the third is a 7/18.)
I know here is already existing discussion about screen tints, but I am not sure if my problem is the same as that being already discussed, or if the new Vibrant's have different hardware than before (the software seems to be the same, with build date of 6/22).
Any input is greatly appreciated! I would really like the screen that my first Vibrant had, so if I have to I will go for a fourth replacement.
Thanks!
Seems like you created your own monster. I really don't know what you all are doing with your phones to create all of these problems but I haven't had any of these issues and Ive had the phone since day 1.
not sure if that's the best background to judge "color tint"
if it helps, looking at your pix and my phone, mine looks more like the one on the right, but a lot of that could be the color settings on my screen and the color balance you used in taking the picture
you might try, on android market is an app called "Color FLash" - it's a freebie, but it basically turn your screen all white (to use as a flashlight)
but in it you can adjust brightness or even select colors to display - you might download it, and set to full bright in white to see if or what tint the screen's showing
if it's only that settings page showing a brown tint, it could be in the software and to be frank, if that were the case i wouldn't worry about that page being brown tint
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No question in my mind there are significant variances amongst screens.
I got two Vibrants on the same day from a T-Mo store. My GF's screen was noticeably dimmer. When we dialed in the settings to give the same brightness, hers was a good deal warmer (aka: red). Mine is considerably cooler (aka: blue).
So... we went back the store a few days later to exchange hers. We had 4 Vibrants out at one time and none had the same screen characteristics. Mine was the brightest but bluest, the others mixes. She took the next brightest one that had a more neutral color cast.
This is either QC trouble at Samsung or the nature of the beast with AMOLED displays. Remember, OLED is new and immature. Blue OLEDs especially are proving to be a problem. We're on the bleeding edge.
With that said, and with what I've seen and read, I would not sweat the differences in screens unless the color cast is really screwy.
I think you should post your pics and discussion here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=733344
that way we can keep tint problems all in one thread.
these phones all have different tints, makes no freaking sense to me why there are such fluctuations in QC and manufacturing. It is really starting to piss me off.
You walk into an Apple store, you see like 10 iPhones on display, the screen tints look identical on each one.
You put vibrants next to eachother, and each tint is different, from blue to blue/green, to yellow, to dingy dark yellow to brown.
I contacted samsung directly and let them know about the tint issue, the rep replies "we have never heard about this tint problem before, you are the first to report it."
YOU GOT TO BE KIDDING ME SAMSUNG. MY GOD
Perfect vibrant since day 1.
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Perfect vibrant since day 1.
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Funny. Have you compared to a few others?
SamsungGalaxySVibrant said:
I think you should post your pics and discussion here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=733344
that way we can keep tint problems all in one thread.
these phones all have different tints, makes no freaking sense to me why there are such fluctuations in QC and manufacturing. It is really starting to piss me off.
You walk into an Apple store, you see like 10 iPhones on display, the screen tints look identical on each one.
You put vibrants next to eachother, and each tint is different, from blue to blue/green, to yellow, to dingy dark yellow to brown.
I contacted samsung directly and let them know about the tint issue, the rep replies "we have never heard about this tint problem before, you are the first to report it."
YOU GOT TO BE KIDDING ME SAMSUNG. MY GOD
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just buy an iPhone.
And that is not a fair comparison.
When was the last time you saw Apple using a SAMOLED screen.
They just use LCD.
Samsungs LCDs don't have tint problems.
this is a problem with the technology.
You should really do some more research instead of pulling the whole Apple is perfect BS.
so i got my new evo 4g yesterday but this one has a purple tint and is driving me nutz its a Nova 003 my first evo was a Epson 003 but had alot of problems so i got sprint to send me another phone and now im sending my old one back .. my question is should i call them back and go crazy about the purple tint or just be happy that i was able to get a replacement with no cost and only took 3 days?
Be happy you got a replacement that fast.
I currently have 5 EVO's (2 replacements) 1 for myself and 1 for my wife.
All but 1 are Nova screens. The last replacement that came in yesterday is an Epson. I immediately noticed the difference.
As many of the people that have had both a nova and epson screens in hand, the Nova may be pushing purple a little bit more but the Epson's contrast and overall brightness is lacking comparing ot to the Nova. The Nova's look much more vivid to me where as the Epson looks washed out. This tested with all devices on max brightness.
Even with the purple hue, I'd choose a Nova over an Epson all day long.
So I am left in the same situation as you except I want a good working Nova instead of this inferior washed out contrastless Epson!
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so i got my new evo 4g yesterday but this one has a purple tint and is driving me nutz its a Nova 003 my first evo was a Epson 003 but had alot of problems so i got sprint to send me another phone and now im sending my old one back .. my question is should i call them back and go crazy about the purple tint or just be happy that i was able to get a replacement with no cost and only took 3 days?
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Not sure if you are running any roms, but CM6 has a few options that change the color, aka "calibrate" (a stretch of words to be sure). It may take the edge off the purple tint.
Not rooted came with 2.2
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Guess I will just keep it its no way they will get another one out to me this fast just gotta get use to the purple tint
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My EVO is due to arrive Tuesday - how do I tell which screen I have? I was playing with a coworker's EVO the other day and I noticed how bland/washed-out the colors were, so I'm assuming Epson on that one.
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My EVO is due to arrive Tuesday - how do I tell which screen I have? I was playing with a coworker's EVO the other day and I noticed how bland/washed-out the colors were, so I'm assuming Epson on that one.
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Correct I prefer the Nova panels over Epson. I think most would agree.
got my replacement evo yesterday. came with 2.2 and is 0002 Novatec
After some reading, looks like the only way to tell which screen (without having 2 evo's with different screens in front of you) is to adjust brightness and gauge from there? If fast adjustment then epson, if gradual then nova?
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After some reading, looks like the only way to tell which screen (without having 2 evo's with different screens in front of you) is to adjust brightness and gauge from there? If fast adjustment then epson, if gradual then nova?
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Exactly. or use dmesg via adb and search for epson or nova
Is it normal for the screen to be a bit yellow when the back-light is dim? While the back light is ~50% to 100% it's a nice clear white. When it's turned down though it has a yellow/green tint. I had an Epic before the fascinate, and it was always a clear white. Side-by-side the epic was also a bit brighter.
Picked up a Droid X yesterday, since it was the last day for the buy one get one free, and it's screen is even brighter than the fascinate. Which seems to contradict most of the reviews and comparisons I've read.
I'm wondering if this is normal, or if i should get it exchanged since it's only my 3rd day with the phone.
It's funny that you say something like that because I used to have the epic and the screen on my fascinate has colors off as well. whites look yellower and greys and blacks have a red hue so they look almost maroon. My brother's fascinate does not have these issues and looks exactly as my epic did.
edit: also, this is with any screen brightness not just minimum
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It's funny that you say something like that because I used to have the epic and the screen on my fascinate has colors off as well. whites look yellower and greys and blacks have a red hue so they look almost maroon. My brother's fascinate does not have these issues and looks exactly as my epic did.
edit: also, this is with any screen brightness not just minimum
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Sounds like you need to exchange yours at least. I might take mine up to the store and compare them, just to be sure.
Does your screen turn a bit yellow when the backlight dims as well?
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Sounds like you need to exchange yours at least. I might take mine up to the store and compare them, just to be sure.
Does your screen turn a bit yellow when the backlight dims as well?
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it is yellowish at 0%, yes, but darker greys are almost maroon as I said
it makes the lighter greys look green and the darker greys look maroon, so it's definitely something i'll be exchanging in the near future. I just need to have the time
My whites also have a yellow tint. Is this anything to worry about or will Voodoo ColorFix fix it?
I think my wife's phone has the same issue. After reading this thread I compared them and there is definitely a difference.
There doesn't seem to be a difference at the higher brightness settings though. (remove the space in the url to see my comparison)
This is at 0% brightness (my wife's is on the left)
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and this is at 100%
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We got our phones at the same time on release day. As well as using the same screen protector (phantom skinz for now - driving me nuts and ready to take it off)
I took mine up to the store today, and i'm going to exchange it for a new one tomarrow(store was closing). They said it was defective.
Also, thanks for posting the screenshots Ooklah.
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I took mine up to the store today, and i'm going to exchange it for a new one tomarrow(store was closing). They said it was defective.
Also, thanks for posting the screenshots Ooklah.
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So it's a defect? Should I return it?
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So it's a defect? Should I return it?
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I would. The store should do an even exchange. After all, the screen is best part of the galaxy S phones.
My wife and I just got back from exchanging her phone, and out of two new phones they checked, they both had the same yellow hue... their display unit didn't, and neither did the associate's Fascinate who helped us. I wasn't going to make them open more phones up as this store has been really good to us.
The associate said he thinks that may just be the way they are manufacturing them. If that is the case, perhaps it is the software, and there is a setting buried somewhere that can be changed. I'm not sure, but I am curious to hear about everyones results on their exchanges.
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My wife and I just got back from exchanging her phone, and out of two new phones they checked, they both had the same yellow hue... their display unit didn't, and neither did the associate's Fascinate who helped us. I wasn't going to make them open more phones up as this store has been really good to us.
The associate said he thinks that may just be the way they are manufacturing them. If that is the case, perhaps it is the software, and there is a setting buried somewhere that can be changed. I'm not sure, but I am curious to hear about everyones results on their exchanges.
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Samsung did an awful job calibrating the display. Colors are extremely saturated(I'm a home theater buff and it looks like that awful dynamic/vivid setting.) I don't mind it though. I just wish this could display whites like my Droid. Maybe I should try returning it and see if I can get one with a working GPS and good screen?
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Samsung did an awful job calibrating the display. Colors are extremely saturated(I'm a home theater buff and it looks like that awful dynamic/vivid setting.) I don't mind it though. I just wish this could display whites like my Droid. Maybe I should try returning it and see if I can get one with a working GPS and good screen?
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Same here. I have a screen calibration unit even for my displays. Hopefuly Voodoo will be out soon though.
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My wife and I just got back from exchanging her phone, and out of two new phones they checked, they both had the same yellow hue... their display unit didn't, and neither did the associate's Fascinate who helped us. I wasn't going to make them open more phones up as this store has been really good to us.
The associate said he thinks that may just be the way they are manufacturing them. If that is the case, perhaps it is the software, and there is a setting buried somewhere that can be changed. I'm not sure, but I am curious to hear about everyones results on their exchanges.
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I don't believe that it is just the way they are manufacturing them or else both mine, my epic's, and my brother's display would all be the same regarding colors. The colors should not be so significantly different between two units of the same model if they are manufacturing them properly. I will be returning mine and making sure they open them until the displays are properly colored... I am only returning one unit and I, like most consumers on xda, am not part of the majority they serve so I actually... well, notice the color difference.
Please don't put me in the "unwarranted exchange" club! My display really is off, and I haven't seen this in any of the other Galaxy S forums, just the Fascinate. I feel ripped off after having switched from Verizon to Sprint for the Epic, then being unsatisfied with my sprint bill/Epic switching back to Verizon and getting a junk display.
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I don't believe that it is just the way they are manufacturing them or else both mine, my epic's, and my brother's display would all be the same regarding colors. The colors should not be so significantly different between two units of the same model if they are manufacturing them properly. I will be returning mine and making sure they open them until the displays are properly colored... I am only returning one unit and I, like most consumers on xda, am not part of the majority they serve so I actually... well, notice the color difference.
Please don't put me in the "unwarranted exchange" club! My display really is off, and I haven't seen this in any of the other Galaxy S forums, just the Fascinate. I feel ripped off after having switched from Verizon to Sprint for the Epic, then being unsatisfied with my sprint bill/Epic switching back to Verizon and getting a junk display.
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What's funny, and is actually kind of bugging me now is that my phone (without the yellowish tint) has noticeably dimmer capacitive buttons than my wifes new one. This might be due to it almost being a month old vs. one that is only a few hours. But if the LEDs are diminishing that quickly, what will they look like in another month, or even six months from now? I just don't think Samsung's quality control is what it should be.
As far as the screen, it isn't that big of a deal to me since the phone only has the yellow hue on the dimmest settings. If it were noticeable on brighter, or even mid settings then I'd be having a fit until we got one that looked good to us.
Your particular case sounds like it is way worse than what my wife and I have experienced. It sounds like a genuine defect, and you SHOULD get a replacement.
I just got back with my new one, no yellow tint at all.
The Vibrant has had similar issues with their displays. Ranges from a brown to a blue tint even. I've read a few about Epics having a yellow tint as well. So it's not unique to the fascinate.
I don't mind "vibrant" colors as long as the black is as black as possible. Even if it makes my ViewSonic look dull.
Now that I really look at it, whites are very blue tinted, while other colors are yellow tinted or over-saturated(which is on every one of these. The D1, D2, DX, and iPhone 4 are the only phones I've ever seen calibrated correctly out of the box.) Is this a defect? I am just happy these whites aren't like my friend Incredible's. His whites get black streaks down one line of pixels(it's hard to explain, but looks awful.) To return or not to return? If I return they better apply a new Invisible Shield for free.
Wow, you guys are really picky. I'm not about to say that my Fascinate's screen is perfect, but then again, no screen is. They ALL have flaws, one way or another. I for one have noticed that whites have a bluish tint, which strangely changes to a yellowish tint when I press on the screen. Does this make me want to complain and return the phone? Of course not. It really is not worth the hassle of going through that. Honestly though, I've never seen a screen that looks more awesome than this super AMOLED screen, despite the minor flaws. Guess there's just no pleasing some people. ;-)
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Wow, you guys are really picky. I'm not about to say that my Fascinate's screen is perfect, but then again, no screen is. They ALL have flaws, one way or another. I for one have noticed that whites have a bluish tint, which strangely changes to a yellowish tint when I press on the screen. Does this make me want to complain and return the phone? Of course not. It really is not worth the hassle of going through that. Honestly though, I've never seen a screen that looks more awesome than this super AMOLED screen, despite the minor flaws. Guess there's just no pleasing some people. ;-)
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The screen on my new one seems pretty perfect to me. No tints, and certainly doesn't change color when i touch it. Guess some people prefer to accept defects and substandard quality control.
Squeaky wheel gets the oil.
Went into the Verizon store today - the associate who I spoke with immediately recognized the problem, but I did pull out my brother's fascinate without color issues so we wouldn't have to go and check a floor model.
At first she said "Here, it's probably fixed" when she turned the backlight up, but when I showed her the difference between the two phones with the backlight dimmed to lowest. I mentioned the battery drain with it higher would not really be acceptable to me, she was more than glad to accept it as an exchange for a new Fascinate.
I also had my contract switched over to 1 year because I forgot to do that when I was in there and getting my old fascinate... sort of happens when you're sitting around for two hours. Picked up the extended battery too - not nearly as bad as people say unless you're shirt-pocketing it.
Took all of 45 minutes, I guess I was lucky - the longest part was the line.
Tints vary from handset to handset.
Hey just wanted to chime in.
I've compared Epic, Fascinate, Vibrant, and Captivate side by side. Here is what I found, almost no two screens have the same hue/tint/.
These are the following tints I've noticed.
Pink
Yellow (the best in my opinion)
Brown
blue/green
blue
blue/gray
When testing the phones, I set them side by side, and set the same brightness levels to test.
Why these tints vary so much, from individual to individual handset is a good question. I saw two Epic's in a sprint store side by side, one was blue tinted one was brown. Same exact settings. So strange.
Check out MKBHD's new review of the Pixel 2 / XL. Thoughts?
Halt shipping and conduct a QC investigation...
Watched this video this morning! Can't wait for my P2XL to arrive tomorrow!
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As always, an honest review.
Makes me more excited for my delivery, although it is one day past my ship date and I have no confirmation.
Blue hue, won't bother me at all.
Muted colors. I believe google will provide some options with a software update at some point, but I've already seen the phone at Verizon and the colors didn't bother me at all.
Otherwise, the phone will definitely be the best I've ever had.
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As always, an honest review.
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I worry sometimes that MKBHD is too much of an android fanboy & then a review comes out like this & I don't care anymore. LOL!
Seriously, I've watched him since he was a teenager & I believe what he says.
I don't know what to think anymore. Some say this phone is a turd. Others, like MKBHD, praise it. Guess I'm glad I didn't cancel my order and I can find out for myself. Mine is on a truck for delivery - three full days ahead of schedule. So that's good. Although I'm not sure why I'm getting my 128gb black version ahead of people who ordered a full day before me, but that's Google's terrible shipping for you.
I'm going to honestly say that all this news on the Pixel 2XL feels like a smear campaign or something. I swear, I wasn't seeing as many news stories as when Samsung had phones exploding and they were refusing to let them on planes. Why is something that is largely subjective as screen preference, dotted with a few actual hardware defects being plastered everywhere on the internet. I seriously can't scroll one or two screens, in Google, Newstand, Google+, Facebook, etc without seeing something about the damn screen.
b ..bb.bbbut the screen looks funny when i try to watch a YouTube video at the lowest light setting with 1 eye holding it sideways with a strobe light going off in the background
seriously though i don't know. Google F'ed my shipping up and i went from having it yesterday to having it Thursday so id love to put this thing to the test myself but the wait continues.
Its objectively a bad screen, thats why. Honestly i don't get why people are defending the screen. Its one thing to say you acknowledge the problem but are ok with it, but to pretend this isn't an issue is crazy and if you're ok with a $850+ phone with a bad display, then thats cool, enjoy it. I've seen three pixel 2xl's in real life (the one i bought and two others coworkers bought) and the extreme blue shift is identical on all of them, this is just how the screen is. Its worse than my 2 year old 6p screen. Do i love everything else about the phone, yes, is the display a dealer breaker for me, yes, is it for everyone, no; but again that doesnt make the screen ok on a flagship top of the price range phone. I think its embarrassing to the reviewers who were ok with it, they should be universally trashing this display, cause its the worse ive ever seen on a flagship phone.
love how he explained the color issue.
He made a great review! I don't know why everyone is crying so much. This phone is amazing. I've had it for three days now and I might be lucky but I have 0 issues. The colors for me are fine and it's really smooth. I'm extremely happy with my purchase and can't wait for further development for this phone.
I like his reviews as he is seeing the device for what it is and compares it to how he uses it.. Yes his use might be different than ours but at least he is reviewing in the sense of a normal user (or at least for me he does). The whole display thing i feel is being blown way out of proportion. Its like if no one ever mentioned it would you have really noticed it? or would you have gone about your day like it never existed. For cases where it is faulty that is where warranty comes in play. so i'll be getting my phone and going through my works but most likely i will be keeping mine
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Both my wife and several coworkers pointed out the tint immediately, "why is it so blue" without any understanding of the controversy around it. I thought i had a particularly bad one, as the blue tint happens at around a 10% angle, but two other coworkers have gotten theirs and they're identical. I thought i could deal with it, but in normal use i dont look at my phone straight on its almost always at a slight angle, so the top of the phone would be blue tinted and the bottom would look fine, and scrolling with two different color temps is a weird thing, particularly peoples faces.
To be clear, all phones shift a little, my nexus 6p has a slight blue shift then rainbow at nearly flat, and my wifes S8 has a slight red shift then rainbows, but the P2XL shift is in another world, its so extreme and so fast, and actually gets better looking at extreme angles than at slight ones.
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Both my wife and several coworkers pointed out the tint immediately, "why is it so blue" without any understanding of the controversy around it. I thought i had a particularly bad one, as the blue tint happens at around a 10% angle, but two other coworkers have gotten theirs and they're identical. I thought i could deal with it, but in normal use i dont look at my phone straight on its almost always at a slight angle, so the top of the phone would be blue tinted and the bottom would look fine, and scrolling with two different color temps is a weird thing, particularly peoples faces.
To be clear, all phones shift a little, my nexus 6p has a slight blue shift then rainbow at nearly flat, and my wifes S8 has a slight red shift then rainbows, but the P2XL shift is in another world, its so extreme and so fast, and actually gets better looking at extreme angles than at slight ones.
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Thanks for the information. i do believe you on the blue tint being probably that bad. me personally i would have to use it for a week before i can decide if that will really bother me. if other see it i'm eh about it cause it's not their phone. but glad to know you noticed other people have noticed on your phone.
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Its objectively a bad screen, thats why. Honestly i don't get why people are defending the screen. Its one thing to say you acknowledge the problem but are ok with it, but to pretend this isn't an issue is crazy and if you're ok with a $850+ phone with a bad display, then thats cool, enjoy it. I've seen three pixel 2xl's in real life (the one i bought and two others coworkers bought) and the extreme blue shift is identical on all of them, this is just how the screen is. Its worse than my 2 year old 6p screen. Do i love everything else about the phone, yes, is the display a dealer breaker for me, yes, is it for everyone, no; but again that doesnt make the screen ok on a flagship top of the price range phone. I think its embarrassing to the reviewers who were ok with it, they should be universally trashing this display, cause its the worse ive ever seen on a flagship phone.
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Totally agreed with you on this. for such a high price flagship, we shouldn't be able to oversee issues like this. That's the reason I cancelled it. I'll wait a few more weeks or months if things gets better and re-order. For now, I wouldn't lie to my self and say I can live with this.
His comments on the display were interesting and it is odd that the display supports a wider color gamut but isn't using it (as evidenced by Firefox). That said, the images people typically use to compare the display are grossly oversaturated even if they are using a wider gamut. The first comparison picture he uses with the S8 has much more detail in the Pixel version because the S8 is blowing out the colors so much to produce those saturated neon greens. I'd be interested to actually see the Pixel up against another display that is using proper color saturation with a wider gamut.
Rodeojones said:
I don't know what to think anymore. Some say this phone is a turd. Others, like MKBHD, praise it. Guess I'm glad I didn't cancel my order and I can find out for myself. Mine is on a truck for delivery - three full days ahead of schedule. So that's good. Although I'm not sure why I'm getting my 128gb black version ahead of people who ordered a full day before me, but that's Google's terrible shipping for you.
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I feel like I can live with the screen washout and blue tint at the angle. I'm a little worried about the screen burn in and clucky noises that people are reporting hopefully those are just defects from a really bad batch. I get mine tomorrow so I will definitely be keeping an eye on it. If anything is bad I return it and just get the Pixel XL.
Notable XDA Dev supercurio sheds some light on some of the claims made in Marques' review.
Keep in mind this guy made the software that Erica Griffin used to measure the display. He knows what he's talking about, more than most.
https://plus.google.com/+supercurioFrancoisSimond/posts/8feW5GMgGgt
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Rodeojones said:
I don't know what to think anymore. Some say this phone is a turd. Others, like MKBHD, praise it. Guess I'm glad I didn't cancel my order and I can find out for myself. Mine is on a truck for delivery - three full days ahead of schedule. So that's good. Although I'm not sure why I'm getting my 128gb black version ahead of people who ordered a full day before me, but that's Google's terrible shipping for you.
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Go with your own review, who knows what some reviewers motives are. Hell id praise a phone if it meant they kept sending me free stuff and devices! MKBHD is honest I believe though
The blue tint is when it's at a certain angle. Now that angle may be less than most phones, but I don't know of anyone who reads their phone at an angle. He explains that in the video as well. Like he said if your "that guy/gal' then this phone isn't for you. I think when people bring stuff up that bothers them & make a big deal about it everyone is looking for it. If other reviewers had never said anything this wouldn't be as big of an issue. Just nitpicking now.