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ROM-Dev madness!

Foreword: I mean this in the most constructive way possible. While I'm not a <android> developer, it occurs to me that with the wealth of Android ROM-devs and an excellent base of testers (like myself, an unexcellent but present tester), there has to be a better way.
I love XDA-Dev as a resource, and it's been a godsend since I got my MT3G. I've had the opportunity to use some very well done builds which have been time-invested by their developers. I've learned a lot about my device, and am beginning to understand Android as a platform. Here's the beef:
Some ROM-posts are 1000+ pages long. While I could read all 1000+ pages if warranted, it's simply inefficient. What information am I after? I want to know:
Does it work on my phone?
What's the latest version?
Where's it at?
Are there any specific bugs on my phone with this build?
Who else is using this build, and what hardware are they using?
What bugs are being worked on?
What workarounds are applicable to this build?
What bugs are open and need community feedback?
etc...
Is there some sort of bug-tracking setup that could be used to facilitate this? I don't mean or intend to steer *anything* away from XDA-Developers, per se, but this current forum method doesn't seem very conducive to making forward progress.
<shrug> I know, I know, I'm a noob around here and should just work with the herd. I've seen other comments touching on some of these issues, so I thought I'd throw it out there. I apologize if it's been brought up before and shot down.
Hey, what about this? I was looking for a semi-authoritative list of Android ROMs that matched what I outlined above and came across it.
If I had the resources I'd volunteer time/materials to help the cause in that light, but being the schmuck I am (ya' know, working full time and school part time), I can't offer anything substantive. So while this might sound like a gripe, maybe it will compel someone else to make some magic happen. That, or have my account disabled
Any thoughts?

I understand where you are coming from.. but I don't find it that hard to find the rom and information I am after.. all it takes is a little time..
Why not help out by adding to the wiki?

I dont see how this has to do with development, you are just as guilty as the people you speak of.

xyzulu said:
I understand where you are coming from.. but I don't find it that hard to find the rom and information I am after.. all it takes is a little time..
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I hear ya, it's just not a very concise method and I'm sure you've seen "what's the best build" & "will this ROM work on my phone" and "hey are there any issues with this build", etc...
xyzulu said:
Why not help out by adding to the wiki?
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I've thought about it, and went as far as the edit screen a few times. Then it's like "aww crap, here goes a few hours...". Back to homework
Jrbourque said:
I dont see how this has to do with development, you are just as guilty as the people you speak of.
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I think it has everything to do with development, advancement of the builds flying around here, and support of the folks that put their time into it.
Maybe you misinterpreted what I was saying, but I surely wasn't trying to assign guilt to anyone. Things are the way they are because they got that way - doesn't make it right, 'doesn't make it wrong. I just thought maybe there's a better way to support the community.
It's all good.

Jrbourque said:
I dont see how this has to do with development, you are just as guilty as the people you speak of.
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It's this kind of attitude that is putting a lot of people off. The OP has made some very good and valid points and deserves at least a response to the points he has made, not just a one sentence put down.

Help bring Haykuro to Nexus.

Hey everyone, some of you know who Haykuro is and some don't. Basically he was one of the original Android modders. He is now looking to get a Nexus One but as he's a college student and he's asking for some help. Obviously this would benefit all of us rooters so if you've got a few bucks to throw down:
http://pledgie.com/campaigns/9021
Haykuro doesn't know I'm posting this, I don't know him personally, just a fan of his previous work with the G1/Magic and want to see his work here also. Hopefully this falls into the "Helping Others" rule and not the "Spam" rule. If so just remove it. But I feel like this forum is a place where he can definitely find a few friends.

???
That punk kid was NOT one of the "original modders".
He is not responsible for offering anything of benefit.
He is responsible for initiating a course of action that has led to many many BRICKS.
The community bought a rogers dream for him to "hack" and he ended up selling it and keeping the $$ when finished with it rather than passing it on to someone who could ACTUALLY work on the thing.

Owned. Bad thread is bad. Be gone!

Agreed! He doesnt deserve it. We are good without him. He can go to work and buy his own phone just like all the current devs are doing and then get donations according to the work he provides. Buying a phone so that he can stop by xda for a few days and then be gone and quit. HELL NO!

lbcoder said:
???
That punk kid was NOT one of the "original modders".
He is not responsible for offering anything of benefit.
He is responsible for initiating a course of action that has led to many many BRICKS.
The community bought a rogers dream for him to "hack" and he ended up selling it and keeping the $$ when finished with it rather than passing it on to someone who could ACTUALLY work on the thing.
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You've never heard of Haykuro's Danger SPL? That's the entire reason any of us G1 owners were able to install Hero and Eclair ROMs to our phones. I don't know about the criticisms though... Sure his SPL caused people to brick, but it's not like he just dipped out and didn't try to help. Didn't he help try to figure out why people were bricking, which ended up being that people installed their radios afterward?
Am I missing something?

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You've never heard of Haykuro's Danger SPL? That's the entire reason any of us G1 owners were able to install Hero and Eclair ROMs to our phones. I don't know about the criticisms though... Sure his SPL caused people to brick, but it's not like he just dipped out and didn't try to help. Didn't he help try to figure out why people were bricking, which ended up being that people installed their radios afterward?
Am I missing something?
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I haven't been aorund long enough to say if you're right or wrong for sure, but it seems to me that you are correct... that was his course of action. The main reason I would be hesitant to donate to him would be because of his actions involving the Magic the community helped him buy.
Also, I'm not so sure we need to have a "Danger SPL" on the Nexus One just yet. Did he contribute anything else? I don't think so.

On top of all that was said, wtf proves this is even going into his pocket and not yours? Lol.

jerhoyet said:
I haven't been aorund long enough to say if you're right or wrong for sure, but it seems to me that you are correct... that was his course of action. The main reason I would be hesitant to donate to him would be because of his actions involving the Magic the community helped him buy.
Also, I'm not so sure we need to have a "Danger SPL" on the Nexus One just yet. Did he contribute anything else? I don't think so.
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No one's saying we need a Danger SPL for the N1... I meant to say that he DID contribute something of value, as another poster claimed he didn't. He also was the first to release a Hero ROM for the phone, IIRC.
Again, I'm not taking sides and I have no idea what this episode with the Magic is all about (a PM with a link would be appreciated)... I'm just trying to balance what I personally saw against what I apparently missed...

I was never entirely clear on what the whole debacle was with him in the end, but to all appearances he just up and quit the community in a fit of pique one day. Given that, I'd hesitate to expect any sort of sustained effort from him in return for the donations.

He's a good developer but he has quite the baggage. The N1 community should weigh its options well, and since it seems like we're not looking for anything in particular that any of the devs need his help for, I'd say his time is better spent on something else.
JM2C.

mer6 said:
He's a good developer but he has quite the baggage. The N1 community should weigh its options well, and since it seems like we're not looking for anything in particular that any of the devs need his help for, I'd say his time is better spent on something else.
JM2C.
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+1
Agreed.
The devs we have already seem to be doing the job very well already.

And why can't he just buy his own phone? I'm a student and don't go running for hand-outs every time I want something, I prioritize, save up the money and buy it myself (yes, can be a hard concept for some people)...

IIRC, the reason he left is because he was given a leaked, watermarked version of the Hero ROM, and someone he passed it on to for development reasons cooked a ROM and released it without removing those watermarks, thus getting many people in very big trouble.
As well, IIRC, he felt slighted and burned that most on here didn't seem to care about him getting screwed over, and tried to blame him and make him responsible for the bricks that resulted from the SPL he ported over... even though, as we all should know, a brick is the risk we all take every time we flash.
I don't know about the selling of his device... I haven't heard anything about that. I came to android after he had already moved on from XDA, and what I "know" is based off the tidbits I have picked up over time.

[QUESTION] New subforum for HD2 T-Mob 1Gb version?

Hi everyone.
Since T-mobile´s version of HD2 is pretty different from the orginal HD2 and it requires a different rom, why not create a subforum only for this version? ..since it might get pretty messy with both types of rom mixed together in the same forum....
Some of the differences between HD2 and T-mobile HD2 version:
T-Mobile:
Radio - WCDMA/HSPA 1700/2100MHz
RAM: 576MB
ROM: 1GB
Standard version:
Radio - WCDMA/HSPA 900/2100MHz
RAM: 448MB
ROM: 512MB
and flashing it with the other rom might damage the phone! so yeah...
Just a thought...
Best regards
Claus

yes would like to see that

It would be nice. However I think it would depend on the developers. They probably don't want to maintain 2 threads if their rom supports both version.
Maybe someone could build a master list of their roms and sort them and maintain that list. Either in a thread here or google spreadsheet.

Yes I'd like that it'd be better i must say

Its an awful idea! If you split it into two different sections it would be much more difficult for someone to support both. In most cases someone would pick one or the other.. aka less rom's.

I disagree because there is too little to justify a whole new forum. If it was drastically different like CDMA and GSM then that would be necessary, but since they are both GSM, and the differences can be "easily solved" then we would just have to see which DEV supports which version in their own appropriate thread.

~~Tito~~ said:
I disagree because there is too little to justify a whole new forum. If it was drastically different like CDMA and GSM then that would be necessary, but since they are both GSM, and the differences can be "easily solved" then we would just have to see which DEV supports which version in their own appropriate thread.
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I think a new subforum would help. I only say this because there is danger of bricking your device if you flash the wrong ROM. That seems like a good enough reason to me. I'm sure there are other minor reasons at well that might not be known about yet.

Yeah, it shouldn't be that hard, since most of the roms out now won't work with TMOUS, its only right we have a sub-forum, It's a great IDEA

Its not the issue. The issue is that there are far too many LAZY people who either refuse to or dont read things.
If chefs label the threads properly with instructions, then there is NO need for a separate sub section. Go look at the HSPL thread and it already obvious that people cant be bothered reading one or two pages, so brick their phones.
Label things properly and there shouldnt be a problem. Brick your own phone for not reading, then its your own damn fault IMHO.

start a poll if they see enough people they will do it, I did the same thing in the tp2 for Android and once we got 100 votes they did it.

Oh well, it's the "I'm more important than others" mentality again.
It wouldn't be difficult for the devs to state which ROM is suitable for the T-Mob version, no need for another subforum, for more duplicate threads to maintain.

kenkiller said:
Oh well, it's the "I'm more important than others" mentality again.
It wouldn't be difficult for the devs to state which ROM is suitable for the T-Mob version, no need for another subforum, for more duplicate threads to maintain.
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first of all, what is the difference between a rom that works.. and one that doesn't?
and I don't think anyone has bricked their device by flashing a rom.. thats only when they flash the wrong hspl.
and I'd just like to say once again that making a new sub-forum is an awful idea.

We do not need a new forum. Thanks.

that's a great idea! vote for yes
t69broken said:
start a poll if they see enough people they will do it, I did the same thing in the tp2 for Android and once we got 100 votes they did it.
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foney said:
Its not the issue. The issue is that there are far too many LAZY people who either refuse to or dont read things.
If chefs label the threads properly with instructions, then there is NO need for a separate sub section. Go look at the HSPL thread and it already obvious that people cant be bothered reading one or two pages, so brick their phones.
Label things properly and there shouldnt be a problem. Brick your own phone for not reading, then its your own damn fault IMHO.
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EXACTLY! Thats my whole point to not agreeing with the separate sub forum. Since they are almost exactly the same, just different sized NAND space, and radio antennas, the "different" shape happens to all HTC phones when they are sent to US carriers, different colors, button styles. That right there never gets separate sub forums in any of the other device sections, unless different cellphone technologies are involved, like with CDMA or GSM.
No new forum should be added, since well, to much more work for something thats not needed.

foney said:
Its not the issue. The issue is that there are far too many LAZY people who either refuse to or dont read things.
If chefs label the threads properly with instructions, then there is NO need for a separate sub section. Go look at the HSPL thread and it already obvious that people cant be bothered reading one or two pages, so brick their phones.
Label things properly and there shouldnt be a problem. Brick your own phone for not reading, then its your own damn fault IMHO.
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The key word is IF.
Suppose they don't label the thread properly which DOES happen every once in a while and it could be bad.

~~Tito~~ said:
EXACTLY! Thats my whole point to not agreeing with the separate sub forum. Since they are almost exactly the same, just different sized NAND space, and radio antennas, the "different" shape happens to all HTC phones when they are sent to US carriers, different colors, button styles. That right there never gets separate sub forums in any of the other device sections, unless different cellphone technologies are involved, like with CDMA or GSM.
No new forum should be added, since well, to much more work for something thats not needed.
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The MyTouch and G1 are essentially the same phone in different packaging and they have their own forums and most of the ROMs are designed for both. It just makes for a cleaner forum.

dornstar said:
The MyTouch and G1 are essentially the same phone in different packaging and they have their own forums and most of the ROMs are designed for both. It just makes for a cleaner forum.
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That is wrong my friend. They are not. They have shared ROMs is because the SPL's are almost the same, they are different devices.
This is completely different from that.

dornstar said:
The key word is IF.
Suppose they don't label the thread properly which DOES happen every once in a while and it could be bad.
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I could be wrong, but who's HD2 was bricked from flashing the wrong ROM?
I know I've heard of a few from flashing the wrong HSPL, but I haven't seen even one about the wrong rom..

The key here is that, people need to read, and its not that hard to label a thread. Plain and simple, more complication isn't necessary. I know separation for different devices is important, for the same device, it shouldn't be needed.
We all know that american cellphone carriers always have European phones changed to fit their needs. Here they upped the ROM size, and made the phone 1mm taller for some reason. THAT is nothing really different.

Requesting New "Accessories" Section

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Well since there's no Accessories section i figured Ide post this here...
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I agree. I've tons of questions and opinions about the availabilty of (or lack of) accessories for this phone.
How do we go about requesting a new "T-Mobile USA HD2 Accessories" child added to the "T-Mobile USA HTC HD2" parent thread?
I realize there may be a section for this over at the Leo side, but this is where I come for my 1024, since there are too many ways to go wrong back over at the Euro side...

I'll second that motion, because there are some clear differences in the two models which makes buying proper accessories difficult. It'd help a lot to have a T-MobileUS specific section.
Two things need to be made clear to new users:
"Don't flash a ...51... series Radio to your TMOUS HD2, or it'll be bricked!"
"Don't buy a European HD2 case for your TMOUS HD2, because it won't fit!"

+1
I'm dying to find a good USB cradle.

+1 for this

me too! +1

Bump
I'm bumping this post because:
It got buried over the weekend to page 2.
I'm hoping the mods missed it due to the OP and plus-ones being written over the weekend.
I like to see my threads on the first page
Here's hoping...

even though this would be nice, I think we should be grateful to have a different section for ROM and General info. I really don't see the need for the different ROM section because I don't really look in the TMOUS section for ROM's personally because I know what to look for to make sure the ROM will work on my device, I know that this maybe for all the noobs around here (not calling you a noob) or people who need it in one space and don't want to search. I just kinda think that it is just making the site better then needed and I personal could deal without a driffrent section just for TMUS HD2's. I don't remember ever seeing different sections for GSM and CDMA version of different devices. I don't personally see this happing. Everyone is entitled to there own opinions though.

RKnight1983 said:
even though this would be nice, I think we should be grateful to have a different section for ROM and General info.
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Hence the "Request" and not the "Demand" Seriously though, I would be grateful if it were just a single root and 2,000 pages. This site is tremendous and I have been blown away from Day One with the assistance from other users that is given away freely here every day.
That being said, I don't think I'm being ungrateful in asking for one more section. If that is the way it seemed, please accept my humble apologies.
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I really don't see the need for the different ROM section because I don't really look in the TMOUS section for ROM's personally because I know what to look for to make sure the ROM will work on my device, I know that this maybe for all the noobs around here (not calling you a noob) or people who need it in one space and don't want to search.
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Unfortunately, I did not originally know there was a difference. I had even picked out a (incompatible) ROM before looking for a Hard SPL. It was then that I stumbled upon the difference between the 512 and the 1024. It was also where I stumbled upon the "T-Mobile USA HTC HD2" root. Had it not been for the mistakes of others, who unfortunately bricked their phones learning the difference, I would have made the same rookie mistake.
As far as I can tell, this is the first time that a device difference this big has been released by HTC under the same general name (HD2, not Leo). This is the true source of the confusion, at least it was for me.
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I just kinda think that it is just making the site better then needed and I personal could deal without a driffrent section just for TMUS HD2's. I don't remember ever seeing different sections for GSM and CDMA version of different devices. I don't personally see this happing. Everyone is entitled to there own opinions though.
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I haven't seen different sections for GSM and CDMA either, but then we are dealing with an entirely fresh set of eyes with this phone. If you read my "What Did You Go Through For The HD2?" thread, you'll see that a good portion of the posters there are professing to have switched from other Operating Systems from iPhone to Android to Blackberry.
That being said, I don't think that too many of the so-called "n00bs" are really that, just misinformed and new to HTC or even Windows Mobile. I am sure that it takes a certain mindset and tempermant to take your brand-new, roughly-obtained $500 gadget and attempt a maneuver that could possibly turn it into a big fat paper-weight. Thus, we are seeing a lot of new faces, but not necessarily naive ones.
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My PC keyboard died so I had to finish this with my phone
With the influx of new users, xda-developers will benefit by listening to the new users and adapting to increase the usability and manageability of the website.
The US version of this phone is slightly larger than the Euro version, making many of the existing accessories simply do not fit this device. This necessitates a definitive section that is clearly deliniated from the existing sections.
you certainly have the right too disagree and the mods have the right to ignore the request, but I also feel that it doesn't hurt to ask

Last bump.
If this doesn't get action, I'll drop it and start spamming the General board...

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I don't remember ever seeing different sections for GSM and CDMA version of different devices. I don't personally see this happing. Everyone is entitled to there own opinions though.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=479

Cyanogenmod 7 Development Thread - Take 2

DEVS! Would it be possible to use a FroYo Kernel for CM7 like the Droid X Developers did?
DON'T TROLL! IF YOU DO, THE MODS WILL SEE IT AND BAN YOU!
As we all know, the last Thread that involved CM7 Development for the Epic was closed because people got Off-Topic, so I decided to start this one just so we know where developing is going. This is just for those people who don't know how to read Github or don't want to check it every 3 seconds, and are okay with waiting a week for getting an update.
Please PLEASE PLEASE, DO NOT ASK FOR ETA'S! I know that someone will ask, but seriously. DO NOT ASK. It's annoying as hell. If the developers know when a release would happen, they'd tell us. Trust me, they would. But developing for our phone is difficult.
They can't Port something from the Vibrant or the Captivate because their GSM Phones and we're CDMA, meaning we use different signals or some crap like that. But I think it means that 3G and Calls and all of that would be hard to work on, not to mention 4G.
4G is an issue because it's something not many phones have, especially in the Galaxy S line. Remember that we're one of the original Galaxy S Phones, so we have it, and the Captivate, Vibrant, and Fascinate don't. This makes stuff even harder because then the developers have one more thing on their list to work on, that they never had before.
From what I saw last time, nullghost was trying to port the Nexus S 4G .35 Kernel. This is a Gingerbread Kernel. Remember that the Nexus S 4G is a STOCK GINGERBREAD phone, with no TouchWiz. The Kernel is just the thing that connects the software with the hardware, so this might also be hard because we have a keyboard and most other phones don't (I don't know if this really effects it, but from my prior experiences from Android, it does).
Lets say the Kernel gets Ported. The NS4G has 4G (no kidding). Don't quote me, but I think that'd get the camera working because obviously the camera is a piece of hardware, that should get 4G working because the the NS4G has it. GPS should probably work, although I'm sure that works if you use the GPS Status Method, and I'm not too sure about MMS and what the issue is with that.
Now, when I check Github, it appears as if the developers have stopped working? I mean, props to them for all they've done for us, but if I'm reading github properly, it seems as if they've taken a break (please correct me if I'm wrong).
Really. The only big problem we have is with people who won't stop asking for ETA's. Please, just don't ask. You'll cause more problems then you will help if you do get a reply.
And if anybody has any questions about the CM7-A4, feel free to ask them here. You should however check the closed Thread. It might be locked, but there's a reason it's not deleted, you can still read it, so please do.
Remember, no asking for ETA's. Just don't do it. Any questions, check the older Thread and in a few days or weeks what should be this Thread. Also check Github. No ETA's. Keep this on task, no gangster stuff. Kthnxbye.

Original Android <3ers! said:
DON'T TROLL! IF YOU DO, THE MODS WILL SEE IT AND BAN YOU!
As we all know, the last Thread that involved CM7 Development for the Epic was closed because people got Off-Topic, so I decided to start this one just so we know where developing is going. This is just for those people who don't know how to read Github or don't want to check it every 3 seconds, and are okay with waiting a week for getting an update.
Please PLEASE PLEASE, DO NOT ASK FOR ETA'S! I know that someone will ask, but seriously. DO NOT ASK. It's annoying as hell. If the developers know when a release would happen, they'd tell us. Trust me, they would. But developing for our phone is difficult.
They can't Port something from the Vibrant or the Captivate because their GSM Phones and we're CDMA, meaning we use different signals or some crap like that. But I think it means that 3G and Calls and all of that would be hard to work on, not to mention 4G.
4G is an issue because it's something not many phones have, especially in the Galaxy S line. Remember that we're one of the original Galaxy S Phones, so we have it, and the Captivate, Vibrant, and Fascinate don't. This makes stuff even harder because then the developers have one more thing on their list to work on, that they never had before.
From what I saw last time, nullghost was trying to port the Nexus S 4G .35 Kernel. This is a Gingerbread Kernel. Remember that the Nexus S 4G is a STOCK GINGERBREAD phone, with no TouchWiz. The Kernel is just the thing that connects the software with the hardware, so this might also be hard because we have a keyboard and most other phones don't (I don't know if this really effects it, but from my prior experiences from Android, it does).
Lets say the Kernel gets Ported. The NS4G has 4G (no kidding). Don't quote me, but I think that'd get the camera working because obviously the camera is a piece of hardware, that should get 4G working because the the NS4G has it. GPS should probably work, although I'm sure that works if you use the GPS Status Method, and I'm not too sure about MMS and what the issue is with that.
Now, when I check Github, it appears as if the developers have stopped working? I mean, props to them for all they've done for us, but if I'm reading github properly, it seems as if they've taken a break (please correct me if I'm wrong).
Really. The only big problem we have is with people who won't stop asking for ETA's. Please, just don't ask. You'll cause more problems then you will help if you do get a reply.
And if anybody has any questions about the CM7-A4, feel free to ask them here. You should however check the closed Thread. It might be locked, but there's a reason it's not deleted, you can still read it, so please do.
Remember, no asking for ETA's. Just don't do it. Any questions, check the older Thread and in a few days or weeks what should be this Thread. Also check Github. No ETA's. Keep this on task, no gangster stuff. Kthnxbye.
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i disagree with the dont ask about ETA.
I think that if you announce that you are working on something then people have a right to ask for an eta.
People should be informed as to what is going on both good and bad...
While it can get to be like are we their yet thing... but then i would say you should have never announced something to begin with.

There's a reason I made that rule. If you look at every other CM7 Thread for the Epic, their closed because of ETA's. Don't even attempt to question what I have posted, it's based on fact.

daddy_droid said:
i disagree with the dont ask about ETA.
I think that if you announce that you are working on something then people have a right to ask for an eta.
People should be informed as to what is going on both good and bad...
While it can get to be like are we their yet thing... but then i would say you should have never announced something to begin with.
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In other news....
I heard the Droid X has Cyanogenmod mostly working with it's stock 2.2 kernel. I wonder what all the Droid X devs had to do to make it work.
With the 2.3 kernel source being so close to fruition, it probably isn't worth it to give their method a try but if samsung can't get gingerbread working in the next couple of months it might be worth a shot.

And queue take 3... omfg, when will people learn, this is not to debate ETA.

Original Android <3ers! said:
There's a reason I made that rule. If you look at every other CM7 Thread for the Epic, their closed because of ETA's. Don't even attempt to question what I have posted, it's based on fact.
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really not allowed to talk about that? Since when can someone else take away my free speech rights to ask when something is gonna to be released? If you dont want to answer a question for eta then just dont reply to it. After all no one is making you reply to anything.

If you HAVE NOTHING TO SHARE DONT POST IN DEVELOPMENT.

I'm trying to be honest with you and save you from being flamed. Did you even read the first post? The devs don't have the kernel source for the Epic 2.3.3 or beyond, nor do they have it for the Nexus S 4G, so until then, they have to stop developing because they cannot do ANYTHING without it. So an answer to an ETA is never.

lynyrd65 said:
In other news....
I heard the Droid X has Cyanogenmod mostly working with it's stock 2.2 kernel. I wonder what all the Droid X devs had to do to make it work.
With the 2.3 kernel source being so close to fruition, it probably isn't worth it to give their method a try but if samsung can't get gingerbread working in the next couple of months it might be worth a shot.
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I think this would be a good idea while we wait for the Kernel source actually...

nullghost mentioned that CM6 would be in the same state as CM 7. Idk why, but yea.

No no, we're saying use the FroYo Kernel for CM7!

Original Android <3ers! said:
No no, we're saying use the FroYo Kernel for CM7!
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Oh damn it, reading comprehension! My bad, my bad, continue the thread. Devs: could this also be possible?

Darkshneider said:
Oh damn it, reading comprehension! My bad, my bad, continue the thread. Devs: could this also be possible?
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No.
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Original Android <3ers! said:
No no, we're saying use the FroYo Kernel for CM7!
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Fail. We've attempted this. A lot of the updated proprietary modules from gb and necessary for gb require updated kernel drivers which are present in .35 and would require more work to backport than what we're doing now.
We also do have NS4G source, we kanged everything we could from it.
We are lacking proper regulator sauce along with the branched victory gpio assignments which we can only fire blanks at right now since they have a completely new naming scheme in the aries(.35) tree.
If you want to know why these threads are closed, it's because I send requests that they be closed.
Why?
Because the participants in the threads usually spend more time speculating about possible scenarios rather than reading or asking 'good' questions.
In short, we're waiting on .35 release; then we'll either A) merge the victory bits to the unified aries tree or B) merge cm specific bits from aries to our victory sauce.
That's that.

The reason being? I dont get how theres source for 2.2 and we cant get CM6, how would 2.3 source help us get CM7 working?
And I got my answer while typing because of Deca. Thnx!

Decad3nce said:
Fail. We've attempted this. A lot of the updated proprietary modules from gb and necessary for gb require updated kernel drivers which are present in .35 and would require more work to backport than what we're doing now.
We also do have NS4G source, we kanged everything we could from it.
We are lacking proper regulator sauce along with the branched victory gpio assignments which we can only fire blanks at right now since they have a completely new naming scheme in the aries(.35) tree.
If you want to know why these threads are closed, it's because I send requests that they be closed.
Why?
Because the participants in the threads usually spend more time speculating about possible scenarios rather than reading or asking 'good' questions.
In short, we're waiting on .35 release; then we'll either A) merge the victory bits to the unified aries tree or B) merge cm specific bits from aries to our victory sauce.
That's that.
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So you don't like me?

Original Android <3ers! said:
So you don't like me?
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I don't mind you, your motives are good, but this environment fosters redundant and pointless poo flingin'. Which usually leads to us responding with the same information, over and over.

Original Android <3ers! said:
So you don't like me?
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Great way to lose another Dev.
Remember Konane? I really liked him. It's such a pitty.
Decadence, I appreciate your hard work. I'm sorry for causing this. I know you have done what you can and are working as hard as is possible, please don't be deterred by these threads. Some of us really do appreciate your work.

lynyrd65 said:
Great way to lose another Dev. Remember Konane? I really liked him. It's such a pitty.
Decadence, I appreciate your hard work. I'm sorry for causing this. I know you have done what you can and are working as hard as is possible, please don't be deterred by these threads. Some of us really do appreciate your work.
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I'm not deterred. Far from it. Maybe bored since I only have one summer class and way too much free time to stare at proprietary bits :|

Decad3nce said:
I'm not deterred. Far from it. Maybe bored since I only have one summer class and way too much free time to stare at proprietary bits :|
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Developers tend to support developers.
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