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Overclocking EVO?

Since Android runs on a linux kernel, can it overclock the processor like the Pre? The Pre 800mhz makes it goes from 500mhz to 800mhz, a 60% increase without killing the battery.

Yes, at least 10%.

Check out the N1 forums. They have a snapdragon as well and, last I checked, have it overclocked to 1.3 ghz I think. Toast released an overclocked kernel for the Hero so I'm sure we can use that same code to overclock the Evo.

chuckhriczko said:
Check out the N1 forums. They have a snapdragon as well and, last I checked, have it overclocked to 1.3 ghz I think. Toast released an overclocked kernel for the Hero so I'm sure we can use that same code to overclock the Evo.
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In theory you're right as the Evo also uses a qualcomm MSM chipset, but the code will definitely take some finagling. I'm sure toast and maejrep can get it going though.

kmartburrito said:
In theory you're right as the Evo also uses a qualcomm MSM chipset, but the code will definitely take some finagling. I'm sure toast and maejrep can get it going though.
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I'm sorry. Good point. I should not have said exact same code. But regardless, the theory should be the same so we can definitely OC it.

While I know this phone will be the tits, I'd love a fully-functioning AOSP 2.1/2.2 (meaning camera and 4G radio) rom, with an overclock.
The Darchdroid AOSP 2.1 rom for the hero runs so smooth....it's like butter.

tokuzumi said:
While I know this phone will be the tits, I'd love a fully-functioning AOSP 2.1/2.2 (meaning camera and 4G radio) rom, with an overclock.
The Darchdroid AOSP 2.1 rom for the hero runs so smooth....it's like butter.
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It wasn't like butter for me. More like margarine. Less fat but leaves a bad after taste. ha ha. Like I said in other threads I am working on an AOSP port for the Evo so once I get root I can test it and hopefully release it shortly after the 4th. Hopefully we can add some overclocking to that.

chuckhriczko said:
It wasn't like butter for me. More like margarine. Less fat but leaves a bad after taste. ha ha. Like I said in other threads I am working on an AOSP port for the Evo so once I get root I can test it and hopefully release it shortly after the 4th. Hopefully we can add some overclocking to that.
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Even comparing the fresh toast, to the AOSP rom, the AOSP ran much smoother for me. Both were overclocked to the same speed.
I'll be checking up on your progress, as you definitely have me intrigued. Do you have 4G in your area? I want to make sure 4G is functional, since I'm in the middle of a big ole' pocket of 4G.

chuckhriczko said:
I'm sorry. Good point. I should not have said exact same code. But regardless, the theory should be the same so we can definitely OC it.
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Exactly right. And I think the drawback for us on the Hero really was OpenGL 2.0 support. Had we had that in the beginning, it would have been like melted butter
But you take lemons and make lemonade, right?
Ha, even if it doesn't need it, I'd still overclock it. It's really an obsession. I can't help but void any warranty if the situation presents itself.

I'm sure toast is working on it already

chippillie said:
I'm sure toast is working on it already
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Of course he is. Since he already has his makeshift kernel for it than oc cant be far off,which im sure he's already set his sights on
TOAST TOAST TOAST ​

my wet dream:
darchdroid aosp froyo 2.2 for evo with everything working, overclocked to 1.2ghz

catpunt said:
my wet dream:
darchdroid aosp froyo 2.2 for evo with everything working, overclocked to 1.2ghz
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agreed

Quick port of my patches from the N1/Desire, attached are the two relevant files (one for config and one in arch/arm/mach-msm).
You could probably get away with undervolting too, but there is no guarantee that it will go up to 1.267GHz that these patches will allow.

coolbho3000 said:
Quick port of my patches from the N1/Desire, attached are the two relevant files (one for config and one in arch/arm/mach-msm).
You could probably get away with undervolting too, but there is no guarantee that it will go up to 1.267GHz that these patches will allow.
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Nice one bro. Once root is released I'm sure these will come in handy.

Heh, I shoulda known, but I never realized so many major figures of the android community are active on XDA... pretty pumped for SetCPU once I get my EVO. Not so much for OC, but clocking down to save bat <3

coolbho3000 said:
Quick port of my patches from the N1/Desire, attached are the two relevant files (one for config and one in arch/arm/mach-msm).
You could probably get away with undervolting too, but there is no guarantee that it will go up to 1.267GHz that these patches will allow.
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Fantastic! I swear the Evo is going to be able to drive my car for me before Friday at the rate you guys are churning out gold Thanks for providing this!

Does overclocking a phone this sweet really make that big a difference?
So far it seems like almost the very instant I click something, it's up and running already. (I haven't tried any big and crazy games yet though)
BTW I'm expecting my rooted fresh Hero to bow down and start worshiping my EVO at any second now

drewmungus said:
does overclocking a phone this sweet really make that big a difference?
So far it seems like almost the very instant i click something, it's up and running already. (i haven't tried any big and crazy games yet though)
btw i'm expecting my rooted fresh hero to bow down and start worshiping my evo at any second now
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catpunt said:
my wet dream:
darchdroid aosp froyo 2.2 for evo with everything working, overclocked to 1.2ghz
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Darchdroid is amazing.. Im running it right now on my hero. But shouldnt everyone be wanting a Cyanogen rom. I mean it is what Darchdroid is based on entirely.
Darch is amazing and can do alot. But he uses the source from cyanogen. Cyan should be getting alot more credit.

So guess what, we aren't gonna get AOSP Gingerbread(says the 2.3 AOSP guy)

So the guy who's dumping the AOSP from the Nexus S said "There is no AOSP support any longer for ADP1 ("dream") and ADP2 ("sapphire")." You can read it yourself here http://groups.google.com/group/android-building/browse_thread/thread/298a46f6eaab8c39 I don't know if it's true so please tell me if it's not and please don't flame me if it's not. I guess I'm gonna get a G2 now. What do yall think?

Never say never lol, Someone will find a way

Heard the same awhile ago with Eclair and Froyo.

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KoolKidsKlub said:
I'm gonna get a G2 now
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This
XxKOLOHExX said:
Never say never lol, Someone will find a way
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And this.
cesarbric said:
Heard the same awhile ago with Eclair and Froyo
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RAAAAAAAAAGGGGGGGGGGEEEEEEE
Just kidding

The Dream can barely handle FroYo, I don't know how well it would handle Gingerbread.
Does anyone actually have their G1 running quickly on a FroYo ROM? CM is pretty damn slow.

Deathwish238 said:
The Dream can barely handle FroYo, I don't know how well it would handle Gingerbread.
Does anyone actually have their G1 running quickly on a FroYo ROM? CM is pretty damn slow.
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yes, CM itself can be set up right for once, then are the OTA roms who are with less things...so they run quite good and ofc the AOSP froyo roms.

What setup is needed for CM to be fast? I don't need any features, just speed. If there's a better FroYo ROM for that I'm open to switching.
Gingerbread on the Dream will happen...I have no doubt about that. The question is how well it'll run. If only the Dream had a little more RAM...

Come on man when have we "never" been able to get an update? Im gonna take a wild stab in the dark and say we will still be getting roms for at least another 2 years!

bonesy said:
Come on man when have we "never" been able to get an update? Im gonna take a wild stab in the dark and say we will still be getting roms for at least another 2 years!
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I don't know about that, because I'm pretty sure Honeycomb or whatever they decide to call Android 3.0 has a minimum requirement for 1GHz processor so the Hero, Sapphire and Dream might be out of luck, especially the Hero because they're still stuck with the 2.6.29 kernel. 3.0 might be possible but I doubt 2 yrs of new Android ROMs is plausible.

AOSP gingerbread running on my Dream..
So seems mostly a go.. will require some poking for a true release but not that bad.

If it's not officially supported in AOSP, does that mean we'll be without camera drivers?

ezterry said:
AOSP gingerbread running on my Dream..
So seems mostly a go.. will require some poking for a true release but not that bad.
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This is so great!
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Deathwish238 said:
What setup is needed for CM to be fast? I don't need any features, just speed. If there's a better FroYo ROM for that I'm open to switching.
Gingerbread on the Dream will happen...I have no doubt about that. The question is how well it'll run. If only the Dream had a little more RAM...
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check out the 2708 radio+kernels. By switching to the new radios released for the mytouch + kernel with support, you gain back an extra chunk of ram for os use. Definitely helps out froyo builds

AdrianK said:
If it's not officially supported in AOSP, does that mean we'll be without camera drivers?
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camera (with the minimal poking to get it to compile) is working
No release because many bits of this are easy to fix
> wifi works
> camera works
> hw3d I think is working .. but lanuncher/3d gallery/keyboard are running a bit slow .. and we know the port to 2.2 of launcher/keyboard run fine
> bluetooth no-go but that is just because I'm using a sapphire firmware (easy to swap)
> gsensor no go.. I think this will be a relatively easy thing to correct. API change confused it.
Taking a break from testing while I make a repo to work from

MentalDeath said:
I don't know about that, because I'm pretty sure Honeycomb or whatever they decide to call Android 3.0 has a minimum requirement for 1GHz processor so the Hero, Sapphire and Dream might be out of luck, especially the Hero because they're still stuck with the 2.6.29 kernel. 3.0 might be possible but I doubt 2 yrs of new Android ROMs is plausible.
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Honeycomb (Android 3.0 or 2.4....who knows) will not require a 1Ghz CPU.

Still don't understand why you people want gingerbread so much. The time it takes to get something that was never intended to even be ran on the G1 was at least a year or so and that was only with eclair and froyo. We can't run a lot of things because of the lack of ram like jit. Everything lacks now, even the gpu.
Please stop with all this silly nonsense about Gingerbread threads and just be patient. I have little faith in the project, as most original devs have completely moved onto different devices which are easier. Not saying the new devs are bad, I'm just saying we lost a lot of veteran support on the G1.
Why not just use something fast on your G1 that won't fry it's sockets after 5 hours of use?

Deathwish238 said:
Honeycomb (Android 3.0 or 2.4....who knows) will not require a 1Ghz CPU.
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Alright I shall take your word for it.
protomanez said:
Still don't understand why you people want gingerbread so much. The time it takes to get something that was never intended to even be ran on the G1 was at least a year or so and that was only with eclair and froyo. We can't run a lot of things because of the lack of ram like jit. Everything lacks now, even the gpu.
Please stop with all this silly nonsense about Gingerbread threads and just be patient. I have little faith in the project, as most original devs have completely moved onto different devices which are easier. Not saying the new devs are bad, I'm just saying we lost a lot of veteran support on the G1.
Why not just use something fast on your G1 that won't fry it's sockets after 5 hours of use?
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People just want to have the newest, and humans like pushing limits (in this case of the G1).

Jurai said:
check out the 2708 radio+kernels. By switching to the new radios released for the mytouch + kernel with support, you gain back an extra chunk of ram for os use. Definitely helps out froyo builds
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Not only that, look at ezterry's mt3g port of froyo. 2708 radio/kernel + mt3g = hot fastness. Loaded it on two G1s, the gf loves how much faster it is than the other froyo roms we've tried. Probably has to do with the fact ezterry's port is nearly completely stock (it is without the parts update).

protomanez said:
Still don't understand why you people want gingerbread so much. The time it takes to get something that was never intended to even be ran on the G1 was at least a year or so and that was only with eclair and froyo. We can't run a lot of things because of the lack of ram like jit. Everything lacks now, even the gpu.
Please stop with all this silly nonsense about Gingerbread threads and just be patient. I have little faith in the project, as most original devs have completely moved onto different devices which are easier. Not saying the new devs are bad, I'm just saying we lost a lot of veteran support on the G1.
Why not just use something fast on your G1 that won't fry it's sockets after 5 hours of use?
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(keep hitting thnks buttn by mistake on every post xD)
Anyway I think 2.3 will be too much for the G1/MT3G to handle, it already struggles with 2.2 so 2.3 is over doing it. Battery will not be very good, as most phones with 2.2 now have 512+ ram as the standard. To get the best experience you'll need faster hw to support the effects,apps,etc...2.1 is the furthest i would go w/ a g1, but 1.6 is where the best perf is. I would go with a new phone if you wanna enjoy 2.3.
p.s. not trying to discourage anyone, just stating facts

Whats difference between Frojo and Ginger

Hey guys i have search around to get an answer for this question and haven't found it. I just like to test around but before im trying to see if is worth it trying ginger and what is so good about it
Thanks
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Yes, sometimes this information can be hard to find. This should give you what you're looking for:
http://www.lmgtfy.com/?q=difference+between+froyo+and+gingerbread

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Fr0stbyteX said:
Yes, sometimes this information can be hard to find. This should give you what you're looking for:
http://www.lmgtfy.com/?q=difference+between+froyo+and+gingerbread
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You sir, have just given me the closest thing you can get to a pimp slap over the internet, and for that I thank you.

Whats a Frojo?

So much a fan of LMGTFY.... next time, use goo.gl to shorten it, and you may have gotten me too

...and answers like these create people like akaskriller lol...cause we are soooo mean!!!!

Basically nothing worth upgrading for.

What about the i9000 roms fo they run faster,less lag on stock? Do games run better i rember reading its good for games.
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i agree with the previous reply. after trying a few gb roms, i also found there is nothing noticeable difference between froyo and gb. froyo is still faster, more stable and have gps.
stay with froyo.
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just the same differences when you taste froyo and ginger.

Frodo is a character from Lord of the Rings while Ginger is a character from Gilligan's Island.

Gingerbread is optimized for Hummingbird CPU (SGS) while Froyo is optimized for Snapdragon CPU (N1)

I'm hoping some of the bluetooth quirks are solved.
It's seams my old feature phone did a better job with BT than droid (or iphones)
Robert

Froyo tastes better than gingerbread....anyday of the week
rmeden said:
I'm hoping some of the bluetooth quirks are solved.
It's seams my old feature phone did a better job with BT than droid (or iphones)
Robert
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Nvr heard of anyone getting blue teeth from froyo or gingerbread. YOU ARE NOT MAKING ANY SENSE MAN.

cellneuron said:
i agree with the previous reply. after trying a few gb roms, i also found there is nothing noticeable difference between froyo and gb. froyo is still faster, more stable and have gps.
stay with froyo.
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Also, there seem to be few if any apps coming out requiring GB. That was not the case with Froyo - there were LOTS of changes to the API there and not being able to upgrade meant missing out on new apps. Nothing like that with GB so I don't mind sticking with Froyo for a bit of stability.

anthonys2r said:
Whats a Frojo?
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Frojo is the Spanish version of 2.2
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ginger doesn't have a soul

slightly. nothing noticeable difference between froyo and gb.

I honestly have to say I have try every single rom posted here in less then 2 months. For last I have seen lots of hype with Ginger CM7 and I went for it.
2 days pass and I downgraded again to Frojo 2.2 since I hated it that ginger, is buggy and there aint much I could do to get it popping like I can do with custom Frojo Roms.
So I will stick with Frojo until Ginger gets the support we have now for Frojo types.

question about gingerbread

I i were to root on 2.2 would i have to unroot to update to gingerbread

To receive the T-Mobile over the air update (OTA), yes. But there are plenty of gingerbread ROM's available in the dev section.

If your here on XDA then you probably are curious about using your phone to its fullest abilities. Running stock roms hinders that. I recommend rooting, and flashing CWM, and a custom rom. Get that sucker going!

Concorde380 said:
I i were to root on 2.2 would i have to unroot to update to gingerbread
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as L&B said. If you are rooted running a custom ROM you will not receive the update from T-Mobile stating that 2.3.x is not available for your phone. T-Mobile doesn't know what phone you've got when you are using a custom ROM so they don't know what ROM to push. However if you are running a rooted/s-off standard ROM you will need to revert back to an unrooted state before preforming the update.
The great thing about hanging out here @ XDA is someone i'm sure will post a ROOTED version of the updated ROM shortly after T-Mobile pushes it out. So you can remain rooted, [backup/wipe] flash the new ROM and have the best of both worlds.

If i were to wait until gingerbread would i be able to root

Concorde380 said:
If i were to wait until gingerbread would i be able to root
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Probably, but can't make any promises. Either way, the update that T-Mobile might be pushing OTA is available in Dev section, as well as tons of other awesome ROMs. Take a look, you might fall in love. (With a ROM, not a developer.. I'd hope )

Link please
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If you're using XDA, you have no need for OTA's...Devs will always turn OTA into optimized versions instead with more features, so there's no reason to be concerned with OTA's, they dont offer anything special.

Ok so where can I find the gingerbread update
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Concorde380 said:
Ok so where can I find the gingerbread update
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Where can you find the official T-Mobile update?
It's not been released yet.
So we're still playing the "waiting game"

neidlinger said:
Where can you find the official T-Mobile update?
It's not been released yet.
So we're still playing the "waiting game"
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He could try the leak of 2.3
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1059379

Ace42 said:
He could try the leak of 2.3
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1059379
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That's why i said official . The leaked ROM still is really smooth. I'm pretty impressed with it.

neidlinger said:
That's why i said official . The leaked ROM still is really smooth. I'm pretty impressed with it.
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I wasn't... there was pretty much nothing new about it in comparison to the 2.2.1 stock ROM. The only thing noticeable different was the quick settings in the notification bar, and even that's pretty minor.

kimbernator said:
I wasn't... there was pretty much nothing new about it in comparison to the 2.2.1 stock ROM. The only thing noticeable different was the quick settings in the notification bar, and even that's pretty minor.
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but it ranks much higher on the Quadrant then the standard 2.2.1 ROM that T-Mobile has out. So your say that Higher Quadrant always doesn't mean better performance!?!
To be honest all of our developers do a awesome job.

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but it ranks much higher on the Quadrant then the standard 2.2.1 ROM that T-Mobile has out. So your say that Higher Quadrant always doesn't mean better performance!?!
To be honest all of our developers do a awesome job.
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Lies! Are you saying my MT4G with a Quadrant score of 1.8 K-Jiggahertz isn't faster than one that gets a score of 2k! Impossible I have tweaked the ROM so much that it has imploded into an iPhone 1G. Tell me that isn't true power. To me I want 2.3.3(mysense) since it allows me to use the Sense 3.0 apps/lockscreen and some apps only work on Ginger.

i was thinking of waiting for the t-mobile update of gingerbread but i rooted and got the Virtuous Fusion MT4G v1.1.8 :: Gingerbread Sense 3.0/3D and I love it!
so much better and faster than t-mo stock

Good boy! LOL
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Overclock kernals

Hey I saw in development that we finally have w custom kernal but it didn't say anything about being able to be ocd so I was wondering if there was another kernal floating around that would allow overclocking.
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I don't think we will be getting overclocking kernels until we have the source, or until an experienced kernel builder can combine our 2.1 source with the fascinate's 2.2 source....

Or cant you just download setcpu to overclock?
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Setcpu doesn't overclock unless the kernel allows it to which neither of these (DL17 or EC03) allow... i believe it does however allow you to change the cpu scaling but I think that's broken in galaxy s devices xP
But seriously.... we have arguably one of the finest processers on the market that is fast as hell so I'm kinda with Imnuts on this one...
I don't see the point of trying to overclock this thing
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ive gotten set cpu to work, but it goes up to the normal 1ghz the good thing is you can undervolt and set governors if you want to save your battery.

trailblazer101 said:
I don't think we will be getting overclocking kernels until we have the source, or until an experienced kernel builder can combine our 2.1 source with the fascinate's 2.2 source....
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We have nearly complete source from the Fascinate's 2.2 release. I could retry building off of it to see if I can get a working kernel out of it.

imnuts said:
We have nearly complete source from the Fascinate's 2.2 release. I could retry building off of it to see if I can get a working kernel out of it.
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Wow, if that happens, you better enlarge that "Donate to Me" button!
You're freaking awesome. All your work for this phone has made it usable for those who bought it expecting to have support for a year or more after it's release.