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If you're like me, a subpar or incomplete Android 2.2 on HD2 experience was NOT an option. I've been through pretty much every combination, followed everyone's advice and always ended up unhappy for one of several reasons :
1. The ROM I installed was missing features, like the camera or other features that crashed.
2. The dreaded "Sleep of Death"
Not to say anything against any of the ROM chefs, because these guys are hard-working geniuses and they do this for free... for us...
But having said that, I had to keep trying. I'm obsessive compulsive when it comes to my gadgets and once I had a taste of Android on the HD2, I knew I wouldn't be happy until I found that elusive combination that made it work the way I wanted it to.
If you're having trouble making Android work on your HD2, listen up... Because now mine works like a charm and here's how it happened...
1. You absolutely HAVE to get rid of the stock Windows Mobile 6.5 that comes on your HD2. I never found a way around that. Until I flashed a custom ROM, it never worked 100%. To do this you need to flash HSPL to your HD2. This allows the installation of custom ROMs.
2. You have to strip Windows Mobile down to next to nothing. If you plan on using Android 2.2 as your daily operating system, you don't need it anyway. I tried lots of versions, but face it - you won't need WinMo anymore once you get Android working 100%. For this, use Chuckydroid, hands down. It is stripped down to next to nothing - no Sense 2.5, nothing fancy in Windows Mobile. BARE. BONES. Chuckydroid can also be set up to autoboot into Android!
3. After installing Chuckydroid, I also flashed Radio 2.15 just to have the latest radio. I've heard people talk against it, but again - I'm working 100%, so I'm happy.
4. For my Android ROM, I chose Mdj revolution 1.5, and updated to the S1 Linux kernel. It was one of few builds that had all features working as they should. The S1 kernel patches a lot of issues that might arise with the MDJ build.
5. Lastly, I noticed I didn't have 3G signal after all this and discovered that at some point my APN information (which tells the phone how to connect to data services) had been wiped out. I am a TMoUSA customer, so I found the information for the USA servers and added it manually to the phone. (System/Wireless & Networks/Mobile Networks/Access Point Names)
I know this isn't every piece of information you need, but if you read each point and investigate on your own, you'll find there's a wealth of information out there to guide you through each step, but to clarify :
1. Flash HSPL (I used HSPL 3, but follow the directions when you find it)
2. Install Chuckydroid (No other custom ROM worked and I tried them all)
3. Flash Radio 2.15
4. MDJ Revolution 1.5 w/ S1 kernel (Most stable and complete I could find)
5. Manually configure APN
Again I'll close with the fact that I have a fully-working Android 2.2 HD2 device. All features, all functions, no errors, no robot voice, no SOD, no gremlins... It just works. Good luck! If you have any additions to this plan, let me know! I'd like to know that I was using the newest 100% WORKING(!!!) Android built with all the best features.
I'd also like to add that, given my luck, now that it's taken me over a week to get Android 2.2 working flawlessly on my HD2, in the next day or so we'll see one of four things :
1. A flashable Android 2.2 ROM that completely replaces WinMo as the Operating system
2. A flashable Android 2.3 (3.0) Gingerbread ROM
3. A flashable Windows Phone 7 ROM
4. The return of Christ
Zaron3d said:
4. The return of Christ
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That's it That's all...
funny
before 1,2,3,4 you can also try:
0. replace kernel with s2 also made by mdeejay. they say it's very good
thinking better i don't belive this thread belong to this section
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before 1,2,3,4 you can also try:
0. replace kernel with s2 also made by mdeejay. they say it's very good
thinking better i don't belive this thread belong to this section
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Well I tried a lot of these "quick shortcuts" to make things work and nothing did. Believe me, I've been down every road to make this happen...
and yeah I guess I put this in the wrong section now that I look at it. Sorry!
Yep, this thread have to be moved into the Android General Discussions section.
Just let me know if you have a constantly data transfer on on your "working-like-charm" Leo and I'll immediately flash ChuckyROM (which version?), 'cause I've tried EVERYTHING, my battery lasts 3,5/4 hours running Android and I have to recharge it twice everyday...
vysus said:
Yep, this thread have to be moved into the Android General Discussions section.
Just let me know if you have a constantly data transfer on on your "working-like-charm" Leo and I'll immediately flash ChuckyROM (which version?), 'cause I've tried EVERYTHING, my battery lasts 3,5/4 hours running Android and I have to recharge it twice everyday...
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try this combo:
- wm - energy nov 8 21684 cht 1.8.5
- radio - 2.15
- android - mdeejay revolution 1.5
- kernel - mdeejay s2
i have only 6% battery drop over 9 hours of standby, all data transfers closed and gsm only, not 3g
all things i tested works flawless
i think you missed the most important thing...
--> hard format your SD card before trying
Camillo
Format or not the SD makes non differences, I have huge battery drain in every situation.
I've had several issues running mdeejay builds, so I prefer FroyoStone 3.2 by Darkstone. I've never tried Chucky ROMs before, so I'd like to flash the brand new one
@camillo
no i didn't forget format card. i just don't do that, formatted first time and never again since then
@vysus
do whatever you want. i just suggested a combo that works very well for me
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@vysus
do whatever you want. i just suggested a combo that works very well for me
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Unfortunately, NRG ROMs and PPP builds are not suitables for italian providers: using the first ones I had battery drain, trying the seconds I have had continuos data drops, missed calls & SMS, HUGE and nearly incredible battery drain.
I still would like to know which version of Chucky fits better with android, it's the last chance, after that I prefer to let go...
i think an correctly configured setcpu is the most important fact for battery life.
my combo:
winmob:http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=793814
radio: 2.12.50
Droid: hyperdroid 1.7 (nexusHD2 since yesterday cuz of new harastin kernel)
sdcard: transcent class6 sdhc
battery drain without setcpu (overnight, 8h): 40%
with : 3%
TBH I have found no difference between a fully featured winmo rom (laurentius V4 or Energy nov 8th) versus Ozdroid which was stripped down.
I have found that of course the kernel makes the most difference - currently on S2 and it seems rather peachy.
As for battery drain I have found that it is fine even without setcpu on this kernel - however - once in a while, especially at the end of the day, the battery drains super fast - I believe there is an errant process or data transfer that messes it up (perhaps whatsapp?).
I stillhowever have PPP disconnects regardless.
I haven't had one since I disabled the stock widget though.
i only have ppp disconnects if i kill all my tasks. if not, it works fine
I start off my android adventure few weeks back and now I found my treasure and have stop searching.
Here is my combination,
WM ROM: vbn clarity
Android rom: mdj froyo revolution 1.5
Kernel: mdj s2
I have tried some other build and the battery life can only last me half a day but with this combination after more than 12 hours of usage, I still have 40%. (Usage: check email every 30 mins, check xda app every 30mins, moderate web surfing, a few calls)
So for those still struggling to find the combination, you might want to try my combination. Enjoy
Sent from my HTC HD2 using XDA App
A different spin on Android Issues
I too was having issues with SOD, random freezing/rebooting, robot voice etc and basically gave up on having a usable version of Android working on my device.
But then I had a slight lapse in judgement and came up with another hair-brained idea... I decided to attempt to get T-Mobile to let me just switch to a different phone like the Galaxy S / G2 / or MyTouch 4G.
So I task 29'ed the phone, flashed back to the OEM rom, then removed HSPL while not at work... Over the next 2 hours I began to notice that I was having issues even on the default OEM rom.
I got curious, removed the SD card, re-installed HSPL, re-downloaded the T-Mobile Official Rom from their website, and task 29'ed the phone again, reinstalled the OEM rom, and removed HSPL again just to make sure that I hadn't just got a corrupt download or something.
Within 20 mins of loading the T-Mobile rom back on the phone, my phone randomly rebooted itself. Later while I was in the middle of a phone call the phone just made a weird buzzing sound and froze. The buzzing sound would not go away until I removed the battery and restarted. I was also having many of the issues I was seeing in all of the Android builds that I had tried like the screen taking forever to come back on after being locked, the screen being non-responsive etc...
I had attributed all of these problems to the Android roms I was using and Android not being 100% and stil too buggy for the HD2 when it actually was a problem with the device itself.
I went to T-Mobile last night and they are sending me a new phone (probably a refurb) by the beginning of next week. I'm hoping that the new device will clear up all of the issues.
Just thought I would share my experiences, maybe some of you that are having issues with the Android builds could actually just have a bad device like I did...
Zaron3d said:
After installing Chuckydroid, I also flashed Radio 2.15 just to have the latest radio. I've heard people talk against it, but again - I'm working 100%, so I'm happy.
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Followed your suggest, flashed latest Chucky GTX, did anything else, switched to Android, unplugghed my phone at 2.30 PM, some calls and SMS, few calls received, battery is 42%, over 10% per hour that turns to 12 and over using the device, now I'm hopeless
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Followed your suggest, flashed latest Chucky GTX, did anything else, switched to Android, unplugghed my phone at 2.30 PM, some calls and SMS, few calls received, battery is 42%, over 10% per hour that turns to 12 and over using the device, now I'm hopeless
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Uhhh... what? It depends on what you have running I guess. Mine seems to be running fine. Off the charger for about 3 hours and only down to 90%.
Since I've just had my HD2's screen replaced, I'm still on the stock ROM from when I got the phone back from HTC. I just popped my SD card back in and off I went. The stock ROM works perfectly with Android for me. The radio is the one they installed (see sig).
I'm not sure that WM ROM has that much effect tbh. With the ppp wrapper patched and running the S2 kernal from MDJ, I managed a 320 mile trip with Google Navigate running the entire time. I never had a single data drop or problem with the phone. I was connected to my car stereo via bluetooth too.
/Hi im still new o XDA everyone here are great so far. I have searched for a stable andriod rom see lots of them I was wanting to know to from you guys wich is the most stable to use and easiet to install . Thanks ahead of time for your great knowledge
They are all about the same as far as installing is concerned. Extract, copy to SD card and run. And which build is better is subjective...some are better then others, but there is no "best" one, only the one that works best for you.
I tested a bunch and the most stable and best one I've used is the bluetopia v 1. 0. 3,great Rom and use hastarin 8. 4 kernel, very few if ever any data drops and great camera
Depends on which phone you have - the TMobile US version with the latest ROM has a few issues with voice quality and data. So far I've found MDJ Froyo Sense CLEAN to work the best. Calls are very clear and speed is pretty amazing for running off the SD card. Battery life is pretty decent and data drops are pretty rare. I will say that the phone signal is a little weaker than the WINMO stock rom but I still get 3G/Edge speeds. Haven't fully tested everything but it works pretty well. Can't wait for the native port to work - if it ever does.
The only issue I have with Android on the HD2 is the hard buttons. Because the OS relies so much on the hard keys EVENTUALLY they will wear out. In WINMO I use them rarely to navigate and operate the phone. To turn it on when it goes to sleep I use SHAKE'N'WAKE so I don't even use the hard keys to pull it out of sleep.
Also tried a few others with limited success. Liked the EVO roms but the voice with the stock rom was robotic and data drops were pretty bad. NEXUS ONE was also good but the interface seemed dated. Speed was slower than the rom I'm currently using.
As far as WINMO 6.5 vs Android - I don't see a problem with WINMO but the browsing experience is much smoother and you have full flash. If Flash was available and integrated into either Opera of IE I don't think I'd switch.
I think your concern about the hardware buttons wearing out is an unfounded one. Thousands of phones use hardbuttons...and work perfectly fine. Most Android phones still use phsical buttons, and most people don't have problems with them wearing out.
You are probably right - more than likely they'll last much longer than I'll own it.
I tried the initial NAND build upon release but had to go back to Winmo for the following reasons;
Higher battery drain than Duttys Family Rom
Led stuck on all the time after a message
No screen rotation
Crashing playing .wma files
Contacts listed by first name, no way to change it without editing it all.
Random freezes, slow to respond after standby, low volume in calls even after trying the speaker fix, g sensor would not calibrate.
All in all, enough to put me off. However, having gone back to winmo I can see that android is the way I want to go.
So, simple question; which build, if any, has the most of these issues fixed particularly battery drain and rotation? I am not bothered about getting 'under the hood' to tweak everything just a nice clean stable ROM with no fancy UI tweaks.
And I have searched on this for days but there are many, many opinions in hundreds of pages of comments. Thought I would ask here for the benefit of anyone else looking for a nice clean android build.
I have only tried the CM build (call me a fanboy), and it's really stable. I have noticed the 60mA battery drain still happens at times, but using Quick Reboot (free on market) one or sometimes multiple times fixes this without too much effort.
Speed, stability and features (well, the ones I use, didn't do a thorough test on everything) are all good.
I will no doubt slap my forehead for this but what is the CM build?
Has any build so far fixed the battery drain and sensor properly?
Cynagen mod =cm
I'm using MDJ's gingerbread its very stable and plenty of free space but no gps usb or camcorder apart from that smoorhest Android build I've ever used and one used most
i suggest NexusHD 1.9 NAND version, it's very stable, smooth and fast and i have no problem with it. just works well ;-)
Are these suggestions based just on personal preference or do they address those issues I had in the first post i.e battery drain, lack of rotation (G-Sensor problem I guess), LED stuck etc?
Appreciate your input all the same but I feel like reflashing Android today and want the best ROM...if those issues are fixed.
CM based or Nexus1. I think that until they are optimized, Sense are a no-go for Nand : too heavy, too big. You will be left with 50-40mo for apps and that includes apps2sd. Count on the double with CM and N1 Nand's. And in terms of battery life, G-sensor, they work perfectly.
The Led seems to give problem to most of the Nand for the moment...
Downloading the Nexus 1 rom now, I can live with the led if sensor and battery are better, especially as it is so easy to get back to winmo if needed.
I Know Ill Slap Myself Too For Asking Nooby Questions...but
Does it Matter What Radio i Use To Flash nand android as long as its above 2.08.whatever number ....i forgot....will it still work
I think I am on 2.50.14 and it installed like a charm. Absolutely great Rom; getting 2ma in idle and everything I wanted works fine.
Two things though;
1. LED doesn't blink to notify of messages
2. .wma files don't play (maybe that is normal for Android).
Just one thing to bear in mind (I didn't). As this is non-sense you cannot use HTC sync so I spent quite a while getting my contacts back in via business card from Outlook.
Great rom so far though. Nice and clean UI.
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I think I am on 2.50.14 and it installed like a charm. Absolutely great Rom; getting 2ma in idle and everything I wanted works fine.
Two things though;
1. LED doesn't blink to notify of messages
2. .wma files don't play (maybe that is normal for Android).
Just one thing to bear in mind (I didn't). As this is non-sense you cannot use HTC sync so I spent quite a while getting my contacts back in via business card from Outlook.
Great rom so far though. Nice and clean UI.
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Sync contacts with gmail then it stores them in the clouds
Try HD2ONE froyo cm 6.1.1 nand.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=10246269&postcount=228
It supports using your existing cm6 data.img on sd card. This alleviates the issue of low device storage.
This was rock solid as an sd build and better on nand.
I'll be sticking with this until gingerbread has all features working.
While WP7 appears to be a major upgrade for HD2 from the entertainment point of view (720p recording alone is worth the trouble), for the professional user it's a step back, unfortunately, so I am not in a hurry to give up Windows Mobile It has nothing to do with the amazing work done by DFT and others, but with WP7 itself.
Copy and paste is not used that often, but at times could be vital for heavy e-mail and Office users. But at least Microsoft is working on that. Much more important is the lack of internet tethering support - a hugely underestimated feature. With original HD2 and an app like Wi-Fi Router I have a hotspot with me anywhere at any time, but with WP7 Microsoft is totally against it, possibly under pressure from the carriers.
Lack of file manager that we are used to seeing is an annoyance, but not a game changer. I am also not convinced the WP7 keyboard is nearly as good as the original HD2 one, and the apparent lack of foreign language keyboard support is also a concern.
Frankly, I am surprised not many people raise these issues, with Windows Mobile being, in my opinion, the best platform for business user, giving us a PC-like experience. But the trend appears to be dumbing down the smartphones (meaning heavy bias towards entertainment) to get the all-important market share. My hope is that Microsoft develops a special business-user version of WP7with all those issues covered.
In the meantime I would greatly appreciate an effort by developers to solve at least one of these problems - INTERNET TETHERING, either by Wi-Fi or USB. The solutions I've seen so far don't appear to be workable, but we are grateful for all your efforts.
And, finally, one question that is probably easy to answer. Is it possible, after trying out WP7 on HD2, to go back to the original ROM (T-Mobile USA)? If yes, can someone please point me to the clear directions on that?
Thank you!
how many people use phone? how many business man use phone? how many business man use phone really as a PDA? you get the point?
Don't forget, it's M$...
I'm sure I saw tethering on a MS to do list and get the impression it's less about being unwilling to do it an more about being unable, for now.
File Manager - there is one, TouchXplorer. More relevant is the difficulty in getting files on there - it can be done, but it's a faff.
I wouldn't argue that WP7 is more aimed at those who feel the need to share every sentient thought with 'friends' they don't even know on FacePage or Twaddle, but the Office tools are actually very good and with SkyDrive integration there are potentially some very useful ways of working.
The keyboard? Don'y like it especially but it's not much worse than the original. Having a Swype variant would be far better.
One thing not mentioned is the fact that WP7 is more stable and performs better than WM6.5.5.
There are a bunch of threads around on backing out WP7, a search should find something quite quickly but it's pretty straightforward.
Thanks a lot, Gustopher, for a detailed response! Good points.
bussinesmen always carry a notebook with them for heavy documents editing.
bussinesmen should have a corporate laptop with corporate 3g/umts dongle.
Real bussinesmen should have an assistent to do all their work.
However, the email client on WP7 is the best of all other platforms. Real full support for multiple folder syncing. Reading email is like reading a letter on a paper because of the clean and neat look. Just too bad it doesn't shows HTML.
There is always room for improvement and it'll get all the features eventually.
Actually most probs including Tethering can be solved with hacks or workarounds. For me the biggest annoyance is that mail forwarding was left out for some unknown reason. I forward a lot of mails from my phone and this really sucks big time
Also Office Mobile is less functional than it used to be on WM 6.5. Where is find and replace
To be candid i love the keyboard and the smoothness of the system but everything else is half done. How i wish i could just combine the features of different os. If i could then I'll combine the functionality of winsmob 6.5 with the keyboard and smoothness of wp7 and then take the apps from android. Thats would be the almost perfect os of all times. But hey i guess i'm just a dreamer.
Thanks for your responses. Hyellow, nowadays when they say "business user" (or "business traveler", etc), in America, they don't actually mean important businessmen, just people who use something for work - I guess I should've been more specific. Sometimes I carry a notebook, sometimes not, and I often need to receive and/or send emails with attached Word documents at different times of day and night. And I didn't even need a dongle with a great Wi-Fi sharing tool that I could also use to share internet with others.
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Actually most probs including Tethering can be solved with hacks or workarounds. For me the biggest annoyance is that mail forwarding was left out for some unknown reason. I forward a lot of mails from my phone and this really sucks big time
Also Office Mobile is less functional than it used to be on WM 6.5. Where is find and replace
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You can forward mails... Just tap on reply, and it will ask if you want to reply or just forward...
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And, finally, one question that is probably easy to answer. Is it possible, after trying out WP7 on HD2, to go back to the original ROM (T-Mobile USA)? If yes, can someone please point me to the clear directions on that?
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It's actually mentioned in the first post of the LEO70 ROM thread. Basically, to return to WM6.5, you just flash a ROM as you would normally do.
If you want to return to a TMOUS stock ROM, this would be how:
1) Get the stock ROM you want to flash
2) Shut down your HD2
3) Switch on your HD2 while holding the volume down key to enter bootloader
4) [Optional] Clean up NAND using task29
5) Flash your stock ROM, 2 options:
a) To remove HSPL, flash from MicroSD card
b) To keep HSPL, flash over USB using ROM Update Utility (RUU)
If you choose to remove HSPL, be careful to use an original ROM for your region/provider.
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While WP7 appears to be a major upgrade ... the clear directions on that?
Thank you!
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I second this. Thats why im running android gingerbread. It is not perfect, but close. The main thing i am missing in andriod is a good office package. In wp7 it mainly designed for multimedia purpose..
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You can forward mails... Just tap on reply, and it will ask if you want to reply or just forward...
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OMG You really saved my day Never thought that forwarding will be bundled with reply
Thanks a lot for detailed instructions, meptik! I haven't flashed a ROM for a long time, so this is extremely helpful.
I also wonder if anyone knows an answer to this question:
If I take a stock U.S. T-Mobile-locked HD2 and run WP7 on it, does the phone become UNLOCKED so it can be used on any GSM carrier, including major European networks?
Solution for problems with SD cards and/or random reboots
Many people are experiencing problems with SD cards and/or random reboots, and I think I solved mine (I am rather a newbie), so here is my report.
Few days ago I installed WP7 (thanks a lot, DFT guys) on my U.S. T-mobile HD2 with its original 16 GB class 2 micro SD card, using radio 2.10.50.08.2.
Installation went very well, the phone worked very smoothly and very fast, except it started freezing and randomly rebooting. Hard resets didn't help. Then I removed SD card and reset the phone - it worked very well and fast and did not have any reboots.
I tried reformatting the SD card to Fat32 (using free software SDformatter - it fully clears the card after WP7 use and removes partitions, make sure you put Format Size Adjustment "ON" in Options) and reset the phone with the card. It did not help, the reboots were the same as before.
So I decided that the 16 GB card wasn't good for WP7 and bought a PNY 4 GB class 4 card for $10 at Staples. I reset the phone with this new card inside. At first everything worked very slowly, but at least the reboots completely disappeared. In few hours everything became fast, except for certain things, like it would take 15-30 seconds for the camera to reset after shooting a 1 min video.
Finally, I decided to try something else. I reflashed radio to 2.15.50.14 with the original 16 GB card (reformatted again), and everything seems to work very well -it's fast, and there has been no reboots so far in few hours. The battery also seems to drain with a normal pace.
Hey Guys,
It's my first time around the block with an HD2 so bear with me. I'm haveing MAJOR drainage issues with my battery on my WP7 HD2.
I have the latest pdaimatejam 8107 loaded with the default 5.71 radio.
After a couple of weeks I decided to buy a new battery thinking that the old one was busted (I got the HD2 off Craigslist and under Android it complains about the battery not having the proper charge) After using the new battery I get about the same results.
I installed the HTC Battery Status tool and my mah drain is a crazy -100 to -200mah current! Is this normal? I read threads about people trying to get down from -40mah. I have no background tasks running on the phone (at least none that I'm aware of)
I haven't tried flashing the old 5.51 radio yet because I already loaded my 32gb card with hundreds of apps and music and videos. Is there a way to flash the old radio without having to lose everything? The camera trick does not seem to work, and changing the registry values just has it report back to 11 (not 6 for some reason) upon reboot.
Any help would be great. I think after a couple days though I'll try flashing the old radio.
Thanks in advanced!
you cant flash without loose everything....
for save apps data and setting read Tutorial v1.4 from Pdamatejam page
Kindly search forums.. this has already been addressed a lot
For Best performance and good battery life use 2.15.50.xx hard radio + 5.50 soft radio version
For best battery life use 2.12.xx.xx hard radio + 5.50 soft radio..
I did search the forums and I am aware of the different combinations of the radios and the software.
I am more concerned about whether the -200mah drain is a normal occurrence. I guess I could just report back when I have flashed the older radio, but I really don't want to do that considering the amount of stuff I already have loaded on my partition.
I apologize if it seems redundant to post something like this. I haven't seen anyone post about having a huge drain like 200mah. It just seems odd to me and I don't understand how it can get that high.
To give more information, I made sure to turn off the background tasks in WP7 that I don't need. I make sure I exit the program (by pressing back and making sure it doesn't show up as a card) and I even put the phone on airplane mode. After all of this, my drain was in the hundreds.
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Great... I checked it just now and the drain is 400mah
mind you, nothing is even running. I just turned it on for the day and it was the first thing I checked.