Hello all....
I have been using WP7 on my HD2 for a week or so.
I love the smooth interface and speed (nice work DFT)
The battery drain was really really annoying. Could barely get half a day on minimal use.
As a last resort, I flashed the WP7 rom again. This time, when I restarted and before first boot, I did a hard reset (press and hold volume up and down on the MAGLDR boot 1234 GO GO GO screen). It asks to press volume down twice to hard reset.
Would you believe it??? I have been using WP7 for half a day now. Internet, e-mail on etc and I'm still (on what looks like) approximately 60%.
Battery drain is much, much better.
I think the hard reset after flashing probably reset ALL of the counters etc.
For those with problems, try it, you might be surprised, but YMMV....
Good luck and Viva DFT!!!!!!!
All you actually did was read the instructions on how to flash your rom. Well done!
So would I lose all my apps and access to the market place if I hard reset my device? Cause I definitely don't want to go through the chevron process again. Thanks
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mickfarr said:
All you actually did was read the instructions on how to flash your rom. Well done!
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Thanks for the sarcastic retort!!!! LOL...
Maybe, but users are still reporting high battery drain. The instructions are not THAT clear on this particular point. i.e.: Hard Reset BEFORE First boot
I have tried hard reset after booting into WP7 and battery drain was same as before. (high)
Im no noob. I had to search high and low for even a slight mention of that particular point.
As I said... Take It or Leave It!!!!
geddeeee said:
Thanks for the sarcastic retort!!!! LOL...
Maybe, but users are still reporting high battery drain. The instructions are not THAT clear on this particular point. i.e.: Hard Reset BEFORE First boot
I have tried hard reset after booting into WP7 and battery drain was same as before. (high)
Im no noob. I had to search high and low for even a slight mention of that particular point.
As I said... Take It or Leave It!!!!
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You've only been using your phone for half a day when you've come up with the conclusion that you've solved everyone's battery problem. That's not much testing.
Oh and I do think its very noobish to have installed this rom in the first place without reading the instructions that appear right in front of you whill running the program. It appears you just clicked next next next.
Start testing with different radio roms and come back in a week with some proper results.
Hey! Just flash 2.14 or 2.10 radio and stop posting all this crap.
High drainage was found on 2.15 radio ver.
To skunz35: Yes you would lose all your settings and data. Part of the WP7 territory
Well, thanks for all the '****ty' comments....
I can understand why a lot of people don't bother posting.
Radio... blah, blah, blah!!! Done.. Yawn.
Test for more than half a day.... Really?????
I'm just posting my findings to help a few people out there. I've actually been testing this for a month now, as I got hold of a 'pre-beta' copy. I'm in I.T. and have a few 'contacts' everywhere.
These comments are not helpful or constructive. I consider the two people who have 'blasted' my observations 'NOOBS' in every sense of the word.
These forums are supposed to be for help and opinions. This sort of 'nay-saying' is what most forums nowadays are awash with.
Count down! You think you are the 1st one who found this problem? You think this dublicated thread is very helpful? I had battery problem too, I was on 2.15 radio, now reflashed to lower version and now it's solved. Many people are confirmed that. All tests was on stand by mode but not in games or whatever what are you doing there! And don't "blah... blah..." on me!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=10724683
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I've actually been testing this for a month now
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geddeeee said:
Would you believe it??? I have been using WP7 for half a day now. Internet, e-mail on etc and I'm still (on what looks like) approximately 60%.
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You've been testing it for a month (so you say) and you've just learned how to read the installation guide today. That installation appears every time you flash the rom onto your phone. How in gods name have you not be able to see that for a whole month!!!
Not only that you then say you've been using WP7 for half a day with no battery problems. Half a day
geddeeee said:
I'm in I.T. and have a few 'contacts' everywhere.
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God help us all if you work in I.T.!!
geddeeee said:
I got hold of a 'pre-beta' copy
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Neolo said:
Count down! You think you are the 1st one who found this problem? You think this dublicated thread is very helpful? I had battery problem too, I was on 2.15 radio, now reflashed to lower version and now it's solved. Many people are confirmed that. All tests was on stand by mode but not in games or whatever what are you doing there! And don't "blah... blah..." on me!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=10724683
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I'd agree with trying different radios. Its most likely due to one or more of the following.
1: Different radio's
2: Different SD cards
3: Magldr 1.12
4: A bug in the WP7 rom
Neolo said:
Hey! Just flash 2.14 or 2.10 radio and stop posting all this crap.
High drainage was found on 2.15 radio ver.
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I can say that this is the case. Its been 5 hours and Im still about 70%. An hour of music, A couple of calls, lots of texting, installed 3 games over wifi. Facebook (from people hub), 2 emails sync'ed At all times. Radio 2.14.
I took my phone from the charger around 7.30 this morning, its now about 18.30 so tahts 11 hours. According to the task bar its at about 90 percent, so yeah, drain seems better than 6.5 roms. Admidetly, I hardly did anything with it. Received and read some emails via gmail push, and sent a few facebook and text messages.
Neolo said:
Count down! You think you are the 1st one who found this problem? You think this dublicated thread is very helpful? I had battery problem too, I was on 2.15 radio, now reflashed to lower version and now it's solved. Many people are confirmed that. All tests was on stand by mode but not in games or whatever what are you doing there! And don't "blah... blah..." on me!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=10724683
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Again... Blah, blah, blah!! Don't think you want to take me on, mate!!
As you all know everything, i was going to tell you how to 'circumvent' the upcoming MS update. I think i'll let you all trawl through the forums looking for the answer.
Don't tell me 'not available yet'. It is if you know who to talk to and where to look.
I'll watch from the sidelines. Should be fun.....
nilsk123 said:
I took my phone from the charger around 7.30 this morning, its now about 18.30 so tahts 11 hours. According to the task bar its at about 90 percent, so yeah, drain seems better than 6.5 roms. Admidetly, I hardly did anything with it. Received and read some emails via gmail push, and sent a few facebook and text messages.
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Ehh, buddy, what radio are you using?
geddeeee said:
Again... Blah, blah, blah!! Don't think you want to take me on, mate!!
As you all know everything, i was going to tell you how to 'circumvent' the upcoming MS update. I think i'll let you all trawl through the forums looking for the answer.
Don't tell me 'not available yet'. It is if you know who to talk to and where to look.
I'll watch from the sidelines. Should be fun.....
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Say hello to Steve Ballmer from us pathetic loosers. He is the one who gave you the update for sure.
chumaj001 said:
Say hello to Steve Ballmer from us pathetic loosers. He is the one who gave you the update for sure.
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Ha ha ha.... Steve is OK, just misunderstood!!!!
2 words.... Beta testing!!! Available sooooon......
geddeeee said:
2 words.... Beta testing!!!
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Something you could do with learning how to do. You clearly don't know a thing about testing.
I'm still laughing at your "Half a day", testing.
mickfarr said:
Something you could do with learning how to do. You clearly don't know a thing about testing.
I'm still laughing at your "Half a day", testing.
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Man.... you really don't know when to quit, do you?
You obviously didn't read my original post completely. Tested for half a day using hard reset before WP7 first boot. Hundreds of other people have had the same problem. Posted, because already (half a day, admittedly) the battery drain was a huge improvement over the previous month's testing with different radios, batteries, BIOS configs etc. The pre-beta was a ***** to install. It didn't have the lovely DFT packaged installer. Very 'hands on'.
I also never claimed to solve all battery problems or to be the font of all WP7 knowledge! Just an observation, and hopefully a help to other users who may be having difficulties
This from the guy who thought he only had 200 MB on his SD card after flashing WP7.
You've told me to read.... I say the same to you. What part of 'hidden partition' (JBOD RAID if you're interested) don't you understand?
C**t !!!!
for f**k sake
Take your crap elsewhere guys!
I don't give a rats ass who's testing or who does not agree with it!
Do NOT pile up the forum with b.s. postings!
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Ha ha ha.... Steve is OK, just misunderstood!!!!
2 words.... Beta testing!!! Available sooooon......
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So you are betatesting WP7 update from Microsoft on hacked HD2 with heavy battery drain. I see... thats how its done.
EDIT: Sorry for the spam, but these posts are driving me crazy.
Related
So, here is my story.
I have tried Fresh 1.1, and I found that I was getting may too many reboots both on the phone and on Sense for my liking.
So I switched to Modaco 2, and have been very happy for a while...
I just had yet another reboot.
I was listening to some music, when I had a notification for an email. Looked at the email, tried to lock my phone, then tried to unlock, and that's when the music went off, and my phone rebooted itself....
I'm really getting tired of this. I have not loaded any new apps in the past 2 days. I have minimal apps anyway (Facebook, Weatherbug, Handcent, NPR News, Touchdown, Power Manager and Droidswap, that is it)
does anyone have any history of problems with Droidswap ?
I'm really getting frustrated. I hate when this happens, and I'm giving realy consideration into curtailing my brief incursion onto Android and returning back to the iphone....which is a real shame, as I f**king hate ATT
I would recommend taking your phone back to the store. I have not have had one unplanned reboot the entire time I've had my Hero (bought on release date Oct 9). I'm running Fresh 1.1 now, and had 1.0 previously. There is something seriously wrong with your phone.
I have no problem speaking for the entire android community when I say...
"its been nice knowing you, good luck with the iPhone and att"
Honestly...I have never had a full reboot on its own.
I have seen Sense close out and have to reload usually after I play an intensive game, racing or something like that with alot of graphics. I assume it just runs out of ram and does its thing to get resources back.
That's a rare occasion there's not much people that it has happened to from what I seen. Did u try to wipe your phone and cache & whatnot, do some of that and see what happens
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Jdog stop trolling because u definitively don't speak for the Android community...
bronxknight28 said:
Jdog stop trolling because u definitively don't speak for the Android community...
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I think I can speak for the whole Android community when I say. "Please don't go" - The more of us we have the better. Given, I completely understand frustration and disappointment.
bronxknight28 said:
That's a rare occasion there's not much people that it has happened to from what I seen. Did u try to wipe your phone and cache & whatnot, do some of that and see what happens
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Jdog stop trolling because u definitively don't speak for the Android community...
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Bronx,
Myself and many other members of this site and over at modaco's site have given advise on this issue. Griff insulted flipz and other devs in the fresh Rom thread, then went to modaco and started talking trash on the devs here.
Every post is about this reboot problem, that no one can seem to replicate.
I apologize for being rude but if someone doesn't take any of the advise given,then continues to clutter up the forums with new threads about the same thing it ticks me off...
Try TTG. It's made a world of difference for me.
thedudejdog said:
Every post is about this reboot problem, that no one can seem to replicate.
I apologize for being rude but if someone doesn't take any of the advise given,then continues to clutter up the forums with new threads about the same thing it ticks me off...
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The advice he should be taking is to STOP LOADING APPS.
Out of the apps he has listed, I only use Facebook and Handcent SMS... so I'm willing to vouch for those two as not being the culprit. If he hasn't done a wipe and tried running with minimal apps, then the problem is his own fault.
some people just arn't made for android, and apple's buisness model is "you're too dumb to want to do that" actually applies to some people
EDIT: and there is nothing and I mean NOTHING in the world that gives me more of a nerd-boner than someone "rage-quitting" it puts a beautiful smell in the air... the smell of victory
thedudejdog said:
Bronx,
Myself and many other members of this site and over at modaco's site have given advise on this issue. Griff insulted flipz and other devs in the fresh Rom thread, then went to modaco and started talking trash on the devs here.
Every post is about this reboot problem, that no one can seem to replicate.
I apologize for being rude but if someone doesn't take any of the advise given,then continues to clutter up the forums with new threads about the same thing it ticks me off...
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Erm, ex-****ing-scuse me, but can you PLEASE copy the link to the post where I insulted Flipz and started talking trash ?
x99percent said:
The advice he should be taking is to STOP LOADING APPS.
Out of the apps he has listed, I only use Facebook and Handcent SMS... so I'm willing to vouch for those two as not being the culprit. If he hasn't done a wipe and tried running with minimal apps, then the problem is his own fault.
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I haven't got lots of apps loaded.
And I have gone back to stock, wiped, formatted my SD card many times...etc...etc.
All I am saying is that I am experiencing completely random reboots, and I'm desperate to hear if anyone else is.
This dudejdog or whatever he likes to call himself is plain wrong. I have never, and never will trash anyone. I urge him to prove if I have.
Guys, please, I am not into flaming anyone. I paid my subs to Modaco to get his ROM for chrissake.
ALL I am saying is that I am having issues with reboots of sense and phone when running modded ROMS.
I DO NOT HAVE THE SAME ISSUES WITH STOCK.
That's my bottom line here...I do not have issues with stock.
I am going to run stock with all my normal apps for at least a week now to see what happens. I may be back to the boards at a later date because I don't want to give up on this phone.
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Guys, please, I am not into flaming anyone. I paid my subs to Modaco to get his ROM for chrissake.
ALL I am saying is that I am having issues with reboots of sense and phone when running modded ROMS.
I DO NOT HAVE THE SAME ISSUES WITH STOCK.
That's my bottom line here...I do not have issues with stock.
I am going to run stock with all my normal apps for at least a week now to see what happens. I may be back to the boards at a later date because I don't want to give up on this phone.
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You could try stock and maybe figure out the Apps2SD scripting that way you have both.
grifforama said:
Guys, please, I am not into flaming anyone. I paid my subs to Modaco to get his ROM for chrissake.
ALL I am saying is that I am having issues with reboots of sense and phone when running modded ROMS.
I DO NOT HAVE THE SAME ISSUES WITH STOCK.
That's my bottom line here...I do not have issues with stock.
I am going to run stock with all my normal apps for at least a week now to see what happens. I may be back to the boards at a later date because I don't want to give up on this phone.
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Did you try removing any partitions you might have set up (for Apps2SD or swapfiles)...just an idea, simply reformatting your SD card will NOT delete partitions.
grifforama said:
I haven't got lots of apps loaded.
And I have gone back to stock, wiped, formatted my SD card many times...etc...etc.
All I am saying is that I am experiencing completely random reboots, and I'm desperate to hear if anyone else is.
This dudejdog or whatever he likes to call himself is plain wrong. I have never, and never will trash anyone. I urge him to prove if I have.
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Okay...you said you've gone back to stock. When you go back to stock without any other programs loaded, are you still experiencing the issue?
If not, what I suggest is to load each of your programs one at a time, pausing after you load them for at least 12 hours to see if the reboot occurs. I know that's a time consuming process, but it may help to isolate.
If you are having reboot issues with no additional applications loaded and while you are using the stock ROM, I think there maybe something wrong with the hardware and you should take it back to Sprint for replacement.
Hopefully this helps, or at least points you in a direction to go.
grifforama said:
Guys, please, I am not into flaming anyone. I paid my subs to Modaco to get his ROM for chrissake.
ALL I am saying is that I am having issues with reboots of sense and phone when running modded ROMS.
I DO NOT HAVE THE SAME ISSUES WITH STOCK.
That's my bottom line here...I do not have issues with stock.
I am going to run stock with all my normal apps for at least a week now to see what happens. I may be back to the boards at a later date because I don't want to give up on this phone.
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When you return, let us know your results and we'll try to help you. I'm thinking it is an application. I had this issue when I tried to update the Superuser Permission program. When it tried to update from Android Marketplace, it would reboot the phone (I actually saw "System crash is inevitable" in the trace log when it tried to update the program).
If you don't mind me asking, what version of the Stock ROM are you using? I did have issues when I was running a custom ROM (Modaco) running 1.29 and tried to upgrade to a custom ROM (again, Modaco) with 1.56. My issue was force close issues that I could not fix. The solution was to revert back to stock, let the OTA update upgrade the phone, reroot and apply the new Modaco ROM.
I understand this isn't a force close issue, but your problem may be similar in nature.
ljmeli said:
Did you try removing any partitions you might have set up (for Apps2SD or swapfiles)...just an idea, simply reformatting your SD card will NOT delete partitions.
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How do I check for partitions ? I thought formatting would get rid of that ?
I remember partitioning a while back, but I have since formatted, and presumed that would have cleared it ?
I'm not back to Stock 1.56.651.2 build CL85027
I took a chance and re-installed pretty much every application I had previously, apart from the obvious rooted apps like droidswap and cachemate.
It's looking fairly stable for now, but I'll report back over the next few days to see how it goes.
I have to say, I've not once slated anyone on this forum. I have total respect for Flipz and I paid Modaco the subs to try his 2.0 beta and then the release. I really would like to use the rooted ROMS, but right now, I just want to see why my phone is doing what it's doing...
thedudejdog said:
I have no problem speaking for the entire android community when I say...
"its been nice knowing you, good luck with the iPhone and att"
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hahahahahahahahahaha...
awesome..
but ya, no problems here, sorry mate!
(either user error or bad hardware)
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I have no problem speaking for the entire android community when I say...
"its been nice knowing you, good luck with the iPhone and att"
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As jdog says in a few posts below the one I'm quoting... I have done everything I can to try and help him. I have directly worked with him. Along with a ton of other members on this forum. He chose to go to modaco and say that it fixed all his problems and trash fresh. Now here he is saying he's having the same problems.... again.
Edit: With the hard reboots you are getting, I honestly think you need to go exchange your phone.
I have a HTC HD2 TMOUS and i have nothin but problems i already did task29 and may 23 energy i did everything correct and it still freezes sometimes it does not even go past the tmobile stick together screen this effin sucks big time wtf is going on???
Should rename the title to "My POS HD2".
Not all HD2's are unstable like yours.
I, task29, install t-mobile radio 2.10.50.26, install energy 23569 cht and the phone is insanely stable and very fast, faster than 2.13 rom.
glcK23 said:
Should rename the title to "My POS HD2".
Not all HD2's are unstable like yours.
I, task29, install t-mobile radio 2.10.50.26, install energy 23569 cht and the phone is insanely stable and very fast, faster than 2.13 rom.
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Yea I do that to and it still freezes and shuts off sometimes it never works
well can i have ur htc hd 2?
Atxdrift said:
Yea I do that to and it still freezes and shuts off sometimes it never works
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Have you tried using a different ROM? I have tried Energy ROM and it froze up on me a couple of times. I then switched to Elegancia 8.5 and I couldn't be happier with performance and stability, as well as eye candy. Only times it gives me trouble is when I do something stupid or install a CAB file and it doesn't like the ROM. The ROM itself is great, at least for me. I recommend you shop around and see what happens.
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Have you tried using a different ROM? I have tried Energy ROM and it froze up on me a couple of times. I then switched to Elegancia 8.5 and I couldn't be happier with performance and stability, as well as eye candy. Only times it gives me trouble is when I do something stupid or install a CAB file and it doesn't like the ROM. The ROM itself is great, at least for me. I recommend you shop around and see what happens.
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Yes I tried a diff. Energy ROM and it still gave me the same problem I didnt like Elegancia that much too much eye candy...lol...idk whats up with this phone it gives me problems the most when I flash the ROM then like after 3 days is when it will start to work a lil better. When I first flashed the ROM it had the problems but not as bad. But then later it got worse.
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Yea I do that to and it still freezes and shuts off sometimes it never works
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if its that bad you should be getting a replacement. There are two sets of hd2 problems (based on what people have been posting since i started reading in jan)
those who have a few rom basede glitches, like jittery keyboard, sleep of death, etc. which can be solved by flashing, or tweaks etc, and those whose phone, whilst showing similar effects to the first set, are far worse, and dont respond to tweaking.
If its a new phone, and its as bad as you say, dont fanny about with flashing and what not, get it replaced and start fresh.
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if its that bad you should be getting a replacement. There are two sets of hd2 problems (based on what people have been posting since i started reading in jan)
those who have a few rom basede glitches, like jittery keyboard, sleep of death, etc. which can be solved by flashing, or tweaks etc, and those whose phone, whilst showing similar effects to the first set, are far worse, and dont respond to tweaking.
If its a new phone, and its as bad as you say, dont fanny about with flashing and what not, get it replaced and start fresh.
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Ill try that....before i started doin the flashes it wasnt this bad...when i had the stock ROM it ran better then what it does now...My wifes HD2 runs good with the Energy ROM but mine doesnt so idk what it could....any other fixes i should try before i send off....could it be the radio im using???
Could be check the radio versions between yours and hers.
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Could be check the radio versions between yours and hers.
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Both of us are using the 2.10
Hey drift. I gotta go with sam's thoughts here and say that if it were me experiencing what you are, I'd probably be taking it right down to the store and getting a replacement. Just remember to get everything stock again first. Push if you have to, to make sure you get a new one and not a refurb.
One more question, before you punt it back...have you tried running it without the SD card in it at all? I'm not confident the issue is there, but since nothing else seems to be working, if you could try it and see if there's any change that would be awesome.
p.s. I think RDR will be my next ps3 purchase
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Hey drift. I gotta go with sam's thoughts here and say that if it were me experiencing what you are, I'd probably be taking it right down to the store and getting a replacement. Just remember to get everything stock again first. Push if you have to, to make sure you get a new one and not a refurb.
One more question, before you punt it back...have you tried running it without the SD card in it at all? I'm not confident the issue is there, but since nothing else seems to be working, if you could try it and see if there's any change that would be awesome.
p.s. I think RDR will be my next ps3 purchase
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Ill try that but why do u think it would be the sd card???
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Ill try that but why do u think it would be the sd card???
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Well I don't know that the problem will be there, but I've seen in a few examples where taking the card out actually clears up wonky behavior of various types. I just thought it was worth a try before returning it, and I wanted to just add your results to my collective troubleshooting experience on this phone.
There's a few card-releated thinks that can cause your phone to misbehave (bad card, etc), and this is just the best way to make sure we eliminate anything having to do with it. Hate to have you replace a whole phone if all it needs is a new card. But, like I said, there's still a pretty low chance it'll help
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Well I don't know that the problem will be there, but I've seen in a few examples where taking the card out actually clears up wonky behavior of various types. I just thought it was worth a try before returning it, and I wanted to just add your results to my collective troubleshooting experience on this phone.
There's a few card-releated thinks that can cause your phone to misbehave (bad card, etc), and this is just the best way to make sure we eliminate anything having to do with it. Hate to have you replace a whole phone if all it needs is a new card. But, like I said, there's still a pretty low chance it'll help
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I was having similar issue on my stock ROM and could not get it past the boot screen. I took my SD card out (sometimes had to do that to my wing) and it let it boot. As soon as it was booted I did a factory reset and it was good. This was when I first got the phone and was putting all kinds of weird stuff before I actually began doing a little research. Hahaha. But yeah new T-Mobile ROM and Cookies and running like a champ!
At this point I doubt there are refurbs floating around. Too new. Isn't there something you can dial in to show you whether it's a refurb or not from your phone key pad?# something or other?
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Well I don't know that the problem will be there, but I've seen in a few examples where taking the card out actually clears up wonky behavior of various types. I just thought it was worth a try before returning it, and I wanted to just add your results to my collective troubleshooting experience on this phone.
There's a few card-releated thinks that can cause your phone to misbehave (bad card, etc), and this is just the best way to make sure we eliminate anything having to do with it. Hate to have you replace a whole phone if all it needs is a new card. But, like I said, there's still a pretty low chance it'll help
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Well ive tried every step I could to try and fix it nothin work so maybe its bad hardware im sending it back and there send me a new hd2 so will see as soon as the new one gets here how good that one works.
Refurbs are indeed around, but mostly only coming from T-Mobile Customer Care as warranty replacements for phones in need of exchange that are beyond their initial remorse period... Definitely confirmed on this one.
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At this point I doubt there are refurbs floating around. Too new. Isn't there something you can dial in to show you whether it's a refurb or not from your phone key pad?# something or other?
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Anyone? As for why I need this, please see this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=8125474#post8125474
Basically, I just need a mostly reliable Android ROM that doesn't get SOD or GSOD, no constant reboots, and reliable data and wifi tethering...
I am running the BlackStone 2.2 w/ Sense, and it is very reliable. Almost always boots fine, no real SOD after radio upgrade, and fast. However, data will cut out sometimes and take the radio with it, usually for about a minutes (or less), and every once in a while needs a reboot to fix. Also, WiFi tether causes a lock when I try to open it and I have to pull the battery.WiFi tether is a necessary for me now (see link above), and I'm not even sure Dev's have gotten it to work on any ROM... Thought I would ask here...
Thanks!
did you bother reading any of the threads or build threads
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did you bother reading any of the threads or build threads
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Yes, I did. I have read bunches and gone through a number of ROM's. I am not clear after reading them. Sorry if that is a problem, but I'm not, so I am asking for clarification. Since I am not sure what ROM to go with, it seems one post here is more efficient then a different post in every rom thread...
Thanks.
When you say reliable do you mean no SOD or screen freezes? If so, I'd say no. There is no 100% reliable android build yet.
VisualOddity said:
Yes, I did. I have read bunches and gone through a number of ROM's. I am not clear after reading them. Sorry if that is a problem, but I'm not, so I am asking for clarification. Since I am not sure what ROM to go with, it seems one post here is more efficient then a different post in every rom thread...
Thanks.
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There's only a hand full of ROM here, why not try them out for yourself? If one didn't work, try another one.
Move question to android general! Android on hd2 is very much still in early development, so answer to your question is no.
They are very good but not perfect.
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VisualOddity said:
Yes, I did. I have read bunches and gone through a number of ROM's. I am not clear after reading them. Sorry if that is a problem, but I'm not, so I am asking for clarification. Since I am not sure what ROM to go with, it seems one post here is more efficient then a different post in every rom thread...
Thanks.
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well if you gone thru a number of roms then you should be able to tell two things:
1, what rom works for you ....
2, and that alot of people experience what you did and there are fixes ,
I do have an idea which ones work for me, but I never really needed tether before, so I never tested. Also, I know there is no perfect ROM. I could deal w/ freezes, which are fixed by killing the G-Sensor. I just wanted something w/ no SOD and wifi tether/data...
I think I have my answer from this thread. Thanks to those that helped.
Thanks...
sorry everyones giving you a hard time instead of just answering...Bangsters has wifi tethering and its pretty good...not PPP but still very reliable
lill21093 said:
sorry everyones giving you a hard time instead of just answering...Bangsters has wifi tethering and its pretty good...not PPP but still very reliable
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Awesome, thank you...
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Awesome, thank you...
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You could also try out HyperDroid with the update kernel. I am currently using it without problem. With moderate use, I getting about 1.5 day,that without SETCPU setting, with fully charged.
Currently using HyperDroid 1.2 with kernel r11
10507 said:
You could also try out HyperDroid with the update kernel. I am currently using it without problem. With moderate use, I getting about 1.5 day,that without SETCPU setting, with fully charged.
Currently using HyperDroid 1.2 with kernel r11
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Thank you
lill21093 said:
sorry everyones giving you a hard time instead of just answering...Bangsters has wifi tethering and its pretty good...not PPP but still very reliable
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if he would of read bangsters first page he would of known that , i hope you be around to help every single person who ask the same thing , because after about 37 people you will get tired of answering it ...
I've been using hyperdroid for about a week now pretty much without any problems. Wifi tethering works great, infact I am currently using it to post this!
using nexus one android build 2.2 frg33 mccm 1.5 rom with no problems.. everything works perfectly
i've switched off the screen rotation to avoid freezing.. enabled when necessary with a simple shortcut on the home screen..
Thanks everyone. Loving HyperDroid. Now I just have to figure out how to disable the G-Sensor (was built into my previous ROM)... lol
Have cleaned this thread. Its simply not fair to start a war on someone's thread when all they are looking for is a little help, albeit that help might have been asked for originally in the wrong forum.
Please be aware of all of XDA rule 2 here. Also if you can't answer the question or stay on topic then please don't post. It saves a lot of aggravation.
Looking forward to your cooperation here.
WB
I tried quite a few Android ROMs and in my opinion, while great progress has been made, none is good enough for daily use. Unless you are an enthusiast and willing to live with rather frequent freezes and some missing functionality.
This being said, I enjoyed tremendously playing with Android, and I believe it will be my next system. However, I'm using my phone for business and simply cannot live with an unreliable system.
thatruth132 said:
if he would of read bangsters first page he would of known that , i hope you be around to help every single person who ask the same thing , because after about 37 people you will get tired of answering it ...
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Chill out this is not your job do you don't have to do anything just help ppl when you can cuz it over 1000 threads and post no matter how much you read and search you will almost never find your answer unless you ask a question now stop being stuck up and just help ppl or if not go and stress yourself over a job you get paid for!
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Im a epic lover...... dont mean to do any fights or anything like that...
we have been in so much drama ... and i know some ppl making threads because of no havin time to read!!!! (i did it once)... anyways my point is here!!
i just saw the evo thread and for some reason they have the 2.3 ginge.. working in the evo(not full but they are in the way_) is a dirty hack from sdk but still they got it to work
we have great devs here!! (noob... bubby323.. syndicate ... and some other just to name some!!.... btw to bad for noob that he left us...) i know they can make it work!! i know is hard and it takes alot time so lets just chillax a lil./.. right now im learing how to theme ... which isnt bad .... just need lil bit more time and i know is not the same as dev... but is something!!
so i think we have the power and the ppl to make this work and only giving the best to the ppl ... without the (spr. and sammy) bootloads lol!!... so please ppl..
lets get a positive work here ... and not fight!!!... and u guys can erase this thread or not!! just want us a a commmunity to get in that same track as other phone users!!!
thanks for u time !!!
The best way to bring christmas (android) cheer, is to sing loud for all to hear! Our dev's rock, and we will be there soon, cause once our final release is dropped and the source is released we will be on the same page as the Evo. No doubt about that.
The reason you aren't seeing anything for the Epic yet is that in like 8 days they are releasing a phone almost identical to ours with gingerbread. Once the source for that rom is released, it should be a lot easier to port. Still gonna be a TON of work though.
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The reason you aren't seeing anything for the Epic yet is that in like 8 days they are releasing a phone almost identical to ours with gingerbread. Once the source for that rom is released, it should be a lot easier to port. Still gonna be a TON of work though.
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well dont get me wrong!! but if we havent get the froyo update...///and even tho sammy has work on the 2.3 (ginger...) for a few months... what makes u think we can port it ... i bellieved nexus s is not a cmda phone that make alot diff. to port it... even tho they might or do have same hardwares!!
I don't know how many people here has actually used Roms built from an SDK but there is a ton of stuff missing always that can't just be fabricated out of thin air. Sometimes though a decent rom can be made out of an SDK and a dump from another device that has all the bells and whistles. None of this matters anyways because in this subform people complain when their lock screen lags as unusable so phones would go through the wall with something that would have as many bugs as this would have.
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I don't know how many people here has actually used Roms built from an SDK but there is a ton of stuff missing always that can't just be fabricated out of thin air. Sometimes though a decent rom can be made out of an SDK and a dump from another device that has all the bells and whistles. None of this matters anyways because in this subform people complain when their lock screen lags as unusable so phones would go through the wall with something that would have as many bugs as this would have.
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+1 im running dk28 as a daily use bug free and I see threads popping up about how bad it is. 1/2 of all problems I'm reading about are install related. This also speaks to a lack of organization in the epic forum. Combine that with the spread out duplicate files all over (i think there are 3 different di18 pit files, at least 2) the whole development forum needs to be restructured. On top of that add in how critical the standards are from the users like onilink said. Have patients and quit holding the epic to the Evo just cause there is a froyo leak. When the source is out and the kernel gets overclocked, then we can start a new outlook for Epic development.
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1/2 of all problems I'm reading about are install related.
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I installed DK28 via the 3-button method, didn't do a wipewipewipe or factory reset. I have since done the wipewipewipe, and that did help speed/smoothness wise. I'm having pretty cruddy battery life though...seems like a dumb question (and I'm not sure how this could be related, but here goes) but could not doing the factory reset left some garbage in there that's causing this problem? I'm running watchdog and I don't see anything out of the ordinary, this thing just goes through the battery like a piranha on speed.
At this point, I'm seriously thinking about Odining back to DK18. I take the phone off charge at 6:30 am, and it's dead by 2pm.
A factory reset is mandatory to install froyo
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sleebus.jones said:
I installed DK28 via the 3-button method, didn't do a wipewipewipe or factory reset. I have since done the wipewipewipe, and that did help speed/smoothness wise. I'm having pretty cruddy battery life though...seems like a dumb question (and I'm not sure how this could be related, but here goes) but could not doing the factory reset left some garbage in there that's causing this problem? I'm running watchdog and I don't see anything out of the ordinary, this thing just goes through the battery like a piranha on speed.
At this point, I'm seriously thinking about Odining back to DK18. I take the phone off charge at 6:30 am, and it's dead by 2pm.
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Lookup how to recalibrate your battery ODIN will not help with this
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Lookup how to recalibrate your battery ODIN will not help with this
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Ok, I spent some time skerching that up and all I can say is AMEN BROTHA! I think you've hit the nail on the head. I did flash with the USB in, which screws up the battery calibration. Hopefully that will solve my problems.
Thanks again!
Well all I'm saying is evo have grea devs just like us..... all I want or the right thing to do is just a reqest... nothing also no trolling or anything like that...let's just have a great epic thread...... that's all I'm asking. And to the noob ppl here ... search before posting.... and post in the right secction
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Hi,
JUST FOR DEVELOPER EDITION
Just to inform you guys, If your battery is ending faster than normal, download and run the RUU on you device. It will be back to normal.
Site: http://www.htc.com/us/support/rom-downloads.html
Lastest RUU: http://dl3.htc.com/application/RUU_...G_20.68.4196.01_F_release_411207_signed_2.exe
Also, there is no need to relock your device to run the RUU (at least here was not needed)
How did you get to that conclusion ? I think it's more a user/installed app problem. Something drains the battery obviously but it's more often some rogue app hiding somewhere.
The ruu ends all of that indeed because it's flashing the phone to factory stock and with that deletes ALL apps present on the phone, so this method is very easy to suggest. If the RUU doesn't fix it it's more likely that you have a faulty battery.
If you suffer battery drains i suggest to install a battery/system status app that can detect the problem.
Also i don't think this is a very common problem at least not only for the dev edition. If it was the Q&A section would be filled with threads like "why does my dev edition with android L drain so much battery"
This is like the holy grail of answers to issues on the phone.
- My phone doesn't boot : run the ruu
- My phone has no data : run the ruu
- WiFi doesn't work : run the ruu
I think a ruu as a solution is kinda short through the curb if you know what i mean......
Edit :
As additional information :
A ruu runs only on a s-on device with a locked/relocked bootloader
Or
On a s-off device.....doesn't matter if the bootloader is locked/relocked or unlocked
Cheers
Mr Hofs said:
How did you get to that conclusion ? I think it's more a user/installed app problem. Something drains the battery obviously but it's more often some rogue app hiding somewhere.
Cheers
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I came to that conclusion with my phone, I used it for 5 months, so I knew that the battery takes 2 days to reach 1%. After the update it started to reach 1% in 30h.
So I used the ruu, installed and set up everything again, so the phone and applications "behave" the same way... And after 1 week using, I confirmed that was something wrong... And it's back 2 days using...
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I came to that conclusion with my phone, I used it for 5 months, so I knew that the battery takes 2 days to reach 1%. After the update it started to reach 1% in 30h.
So I used the ruu, installed and set up everything again, so the phone and applications "behave" the same way... And after 1 week using, I confirmed that was something wrong... And it's back 2 days using...
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Glad it worked for you, but i seriously doubt the ruu as a fix. I wonder what BBM could tell you at that point, i think a lot .....
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Glad it worked for you, but i seriously doubt the ruu as a fix. I wonder what BBM could tell you at that point, i think a lot .....
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I agree with you, for sure that is the apps... But as I don't know how to discover which one and whatever else is causing this..ruu is a solution..
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I agree with you, for sure that is the apps... But as I don't know how to discover which one and whatever else is causing this..ruu is a solution..
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Yes the ruu is a sort of solution, but you can post this for every phone on every carrier and in every country over the world.
And people have to set up their phone up again from scratch and that can be a big problem.
Maybe uninstalling just 1 app could lead to the same result. That's why i said earlier that the ruu is not definitely the fix. Check some battery stats apps and see what's eating your battery, check wakelocks and such. Then it's pretty easy to locate the problem.
What i ment to say in general here is that a ruu as a fix is too easy, then it would make the Q&A a lot smaller. As anyone who came across rom issues would just run the ruu and be done.
And don't get me wrong i didn't write this to make you look like some non knowledgeable guy....just discussing different options/opinions
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And don't get me wrong i didn't write this to make you look like some non knowledgeable guy....just discussing different options/opinions
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Yeah! That's the idea of a forum right ? lol
Mr Hofs said:
Yes the ruu is a sort of solution, but you can post this for every phone on every carrier and in every country over the world.
And people have to set up their phone up again from scratch and that can be a big problem.
Maybe uninstalling just 1 app could lead to the same result. That's why i said earlier that the ruu is not definitely the fix. Check some battery stats apps and see what's eating your battery, check wakelocks and such. Then it's pretty easy to locate the problem.
What i ment to say in general here is that a ruu as a fix is too easy, then it would make the Q&A a lot smaller. As anyone who came across rom issues would just run the ruu and be done.
And don't get me wrong i didn't write this to make you look like some non knowledgeable guy....just discussing different options/opinions
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Yeah! That's the idea of a forum right ? lol
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both very relevant solutions
1 is easier but wipes user data
2, conserves user data but takes a bit more concentration in killing those naughty apps :good:
as it is there's two ways to convert to dev, My (long winded now RUUS are out) step by step or the other thread is a RUU solution.
This is why i love these forums as pooling together and discussions like this give people choice and benefit the community