http://www.engadget.com/2011/01/19/htc-thunderbolt-will-support-simultaneous-voice-and-data-in-lte/
Well, only if you have 4g coverage, but still... As a Verizon customer all my life I have never been able to do this. Just think of the possibilities that we have now... I can talk to friends AND look at online porn at the same time
EDIT: don't know why i put this in Incredible section, should be in Thunderbolt section... oh well, a lot of us will probably be upgrading to it anyway
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http://www.engadget.com/2011/01/19/htc-thunderbolt-will-support-simultaneous-voice-and-data-in-lte/
Well, only if you have 4g coverage, but still... As a Verizon customer all my life I have never been able to do this. Just think of the possibilities that we have now... I can talk to friends AND look at online porn at the same time
EDIT: don't know why i put this in Incredible section, should be in Thunderbolt section... oh well, a lot of us will probably be upgrading to it anyway
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That's cool. 4G for data, 3G for voice. I don't know if that would be a huge deal though.
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g00s3y said:
http://www.engadget.com/2011/01/19/htc-thunderbolt-will-support-simultaneous-voice-and-data-in-lte/
Well, only if you have 4g coverage, but still... As a Verizon customer all my life I have never been able to do this. Just think of the possibilities that we have now... I can talk to friends AND look at online porn at the same time
EDIT: don't know why i put this in Incredible section, should be in Thunderbolt section... oh well, a lot of us will probably be upgrading to it anyway
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I doubt I'll get 4G for a while where I am, so I guess I'll have to live with 3G + WiFi for my voice + data needs.
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Most people probably wont use this feature. Its just something ATT could gloat about for awhile, but really who needs to browse the net while talking that much where its a significant feature.
When I was on T-Mobile with the Nexus One, I actually did use voice and data a few times when the girlfriend was lost (shocker) and needed me to pull up Maps to help her out. It has been slightly frustrating on Verizon to have to hang up and call her back. It'll be nice to have that option again.
I doubt many ppl are gonna upgrade, doesnt really have many
new features. No hdmi, what a joke, epic fail.
Inc SR 3.5, 40GB, 1800mah
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I doubt many ppl are gonna upgrade, doesnt really have many
new features. No hdmi, what a joke, epic fail.
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You're right. Other than a new 45nm processor, four times faster GPU, 50% more RAM, LTE, Dolby Surround, noise cancelling mics, new HTC Sense, DLNA, wireless N, Bluetooth EDR, and front facing camera, there isn't much the Thunderbolt has over the Incredible.
TokedUp said:
I doubt many ppl are gonna upgrade, doesnt really have many
new features. No hdmi, what a joke, epic fail.
Inc SR 3.5, 40GB, 1800mah
www.TOOLBAND.com
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Looks like someone throughly did their research. No HDMI port? Ohs noes!
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When I was on T-Mobile with the Nexus One, I actually did use voice and data a few times when the girlfriend was lost (shocker) and needed me to pull up Maps to help her out. It has been slightly frustrating on Verizon to have to hang up and call her back. It'll be nice to have that option again.
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Maps will work on verizon while you are on the phone. Well it continues to work if you already have choosen a destination, don't know if it would still work if I just wanted to look up directions.
karnovaran said:
You're right. Other than a new 45nm processor, four times faster GPU, 50% more RAM, LTE, Dolby Surround, noise cancelling mics, new HTC Sense, DLNA, wireless N, Bluetooth EDR, and front facing camera, there isn't much the Thunderbolt has over the Incredible.
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Uber Meh features. Gimme something I need. A front cam that wont work cuz no one else will have a front cam to use with you. Dolby? really? who the f cares? new sense isnt that much different, its already been leaked and am already using the features, so meh again. I already have wireless N, so meh again. Dont need the Ram, so meh. Noise cancelling mics? cmon dude.
Wow man. enjoy your new toy. Other than screen size sounds like a waste. I figured no HDMI would make my case but I guess I had to go there. Sorry to kill ur topic, i didnt mean it.
Mods plz move this to the Tbolt section, plz.
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Uber Meh features. Gimme something I need.
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Here you go: http://www.amazon.com/Fundamentals-English-Grammar-Student-Answer/dp/013049447X/ref=sr_1_6?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1295467855&sr=1-6
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Here you go: http://www.amazon.com/Fundamentals-English-Grammar-Student-Answer/dp/013049447X/ref=sr_1_6?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1295467855&sr=1-6
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Thanks for the laugh! That was perfect
In all seriousness though, even if I don't upgrade (I probably won't), my brother will be getting one and I am quite jealous of the speed upgrade he'll be getting... No HDMI, pshh.
So who rly wants to use the hdmi on a phone? I leave the high def up to my ps3
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So who rly wants to use the hdmi on a phone? I leave the high def up to my ps3
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Exactly, only purpose i could see (before DLNA was confirmed anyway) would have been the ability to share your videos via HDMI, so if you went to a friends/family members house and wanted to show your camcorder videos you could via HDMI, it would be as simply as a connection to the TV via the HDMI cable.
But now that mirroring has been unveiled by LG on there Optimus line of phones, Optimus 2X and Revolution, it might be a cool and all to see your games and UI on a big screen tv, but not really necessary since theres DLNA on board and most TV's anymore that are flatscreen or HD have it built in especially with the rise of internet capable tv's like my Samsung 52"
DLNA works great on the new sense and i love how its two way where you can control the content via the phone to the TV or from the PC to the phone and vice versa.
to the TV you can use the phone as the remote, control the playback, pause it turn the volume up and down and all that, just like a boxee minus the TV controls anyway lol
i can't wait till this phone launches, i love the new sense and its ability to have skins and the other features like Locations and Navigation by TomTom (it was confirmed after it launched on the Desire HD that TomTom was the maps/navigation provider)
if you look at all the options we have on this handset, it might not be a dual core phone but its definitely worth an upgrade from the Incredible, which reminds me
if Verizon does it the way i think they are, and launch after the 22nd, all the Original launch day Incredible owners would be eligible to upgrade to the ThunderBolt (assuming they got a 1 year contract, which i always get so i don't get burned when a new handset arrives the year after).
but it kinda makes sense,
launch the successor to a phone like the Incredible right after the time they become eligible to upgrade during there 1 year agreement, if i recall, they did this with the launch of the Droid X for the OGD owners, so timing really is everything.
TNS201 said:
Most people probably wont use this feature. Its just something ATT could gloat about for awhile, but really who needs to browse the net while talking that much where its a significant feature.
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Let's not forget, ATT gloated about it as if it were an ATT feature and not a complete accident by way of the network technology they used. Back when I was on T-Mobile I met more than a few people who didn't believe they could do it too.
nedrubwerd said:
Let's not forget, ATT gloated about it as if it were an ATT feature and not a complete accident by way of the network technology they used. Back when I was on T-Mobile I met more than a few people who didn't believe they could do it too.
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The six years I was on Cingular, AT&T and T-Mobile, I never used the data + voice feature. I have had to give my girlfriend directions the other day and I just said, let me call you right back, I pulled it up on maps and called right back.
lol... it's not that grand.
I for one honestly don't care about HDMI out. Like someone else stated above, I will leave HD to my PC and TV.
g00s3y said:
I for one honestly don't care about HDMI out. Like someone else stated above, I will leave HD to my PC and TV.
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Agreed.
I have a special media player that plays my movies in WMV, MKV, basically anything I throw at it. Why would I want to use my phone?
IISiDeK1CKII said:
The six years I was on Cingular, AT&T and T-Mobile, I never used the data + voice feature. I have had to give my girlfriend directions the other day and I just said, let me call you right back, I pulled it up on maps and called right back.
lol... it's not that grand.
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True. I had a BB Curve, and being on the phone trying to pull up the Browser/Google Maps to get directions or anything was slower than hell...much easier just to look up and call back, you are correct there!
I am 42 yrs so for me a bigger screen without the cumbersome height of a droid x is worth considering. New sense is truly awesome too (now that I have played on the Z/HD ports) and the extra features are welcome. However, currently the Incredible is a truly open platform to us and we have no idea what HTC will do or be forced to do on the thunderbolt's bootloader. What if they go the motorola way?
As you can see from my sig I am a rom slut/whore/whatever is the male equivalent. I worry that HTC will make it harder for us to root the thunderbolt and that alone will be enough for me to rule out that phone. So I will seriously consider it only if I find out that it can be nand unlocked. Until then, no point switching from the inc to a phone that cant be modded and to be locked down into whatever the carrier allows me to do. That would be a bad trade. Plus LTE towers will only slowly be percolating across the country. I do not believe LTE will be widely available everywhere we are immediately. Why not wait a bit before paying for LTE service? Believe me, it will cost you more.
I also did not like the small battery. What if the energy utilization efficiencies are only marginal? That would not be good. The included 32gb micro sdhc card is worth some $ but think about this - why did they think they had to throw a free 32gb card in?
Another thing that concerns me is that while this phone might have better specs than the inc, it is not dual core (seems six months on every phone will be dual core) so is this a significant upgrade to the inc? I dont know. Early adopters may have a better toy only for a short period of time. The initial tech curve is always very steep.
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So, how is the Nexus One compared to the MyTouch 3G?
I absolutely loved Android over any phone, but the slow MT3G killed the fun and I decided to get a 3GS.
How fast is it compared to it? Is the browser faster?
N1c0_ds said:
So, how is the Nexus One compared to the MyTouch 3G?
I absolutely loved Android over any phone, but the slow MT3G killed the fun and I decided to get a 3GS.
How fast is it compared to it? Is the browser faster?
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I nearly forgot about my myTouch 3G. The N1 blows it out of the water, I'm really glad I switched. I was also thinking of getting the 3GS until the N1 came out but now I haven't looked back on my decision. I suggest you get it too.
I went from a G1, to a MyTouch, to a Nexus. . . The move from a G1 to a Mytouch, not so big. From a MyTouch to the Nexus. . . well, ridiculous comes to mind. No slowness, no lag.
the my touch is garbage if u compare it to the n1. My brother in law is selling his after he saw my n1
EDIT: I know I shouldn't have asked.
I miss Astrid.
N1c0_ds said:
EDIT: I know I shouldn't have asked.
I miss Astrid.
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Astrid is on the N1 ._.
I also came from the G1 and myTouch and now the Nexus! I still need a better reason to root besides tether and more ram as the stock is pretty fast for me. But then I needed to use my tether and switched my sim to my MT and I just couldn't believe i used to use this phone on a daily basis for 6 months so now my MT and G1 are just for display now and testing other roms.
I work for T-Mobile and when people come in the store and are talking about phones and see what I have and naturally the first thing that they ask is whether the Nexus is a big step up from the MyTouch. I say not really and proceed to sell them a phone. If they only knew what I was actually thinking in my head... LOL!
This phone is nothing short of amazing.
Then why are you doing this?
masse1369 said:
I work for T-Mobile and when people come in the store and are talking about phones and see what I have and naturally the first thing that they ask is whether the Nexus is a big step up from the MyTouch. I say not really and proceed to sell them a phone. If they only knew what I was actually thinking in my head... LOL!
This phone is nothing short of amazing.
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and you do this...why?
back to original op....big step up for sure as others have said...
icon57 said:
and you do this...why?
back to original op....big step up for sure as others have said...
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Because for the average customer they're not going to notice that big of a difference. The average person that comes in the store isn't going to take advantage of what this phone is capable of. Most people that come into the store want a phone that works and they can show off to their friends. With that said I have convinced 2 people to get one because I knew they would use it to it's full potential. It's called our right fit guide. ;-)
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and you do this...why?
back to original op....big step up for sure as others have said...
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Because for the average customer they're not going to notice that big of a difference. The average person that comes in the store isn't going to take advantage of what this phone is capable of. Most people that come into the store want a phone that works and they can show off to their friends. With that said I have convinced 2 people to get one because I knew they would use it to it's full potential. It's called our right fit guide. ;-)
For every sucker there's a customer.
Well, y'know, there IS a difference.
What he means basically is, because they dont sell the Nexus in Tmobile stores and he doesnt want to lose his job by sending every customer that comes in out the door, he finds them the best solution he has available for their needs.
Oh, and to OP, the MyTouch isnt comparable to Nexus, a mere childs toy after using your Nexus a few days.
same here, only had the mytouch 3g for 2 months, didnt like it as much, love Android though. came from a iphone 3g 16gb, but now that i have the N1, i love it. only thing the the iphone has is apps, everything else about the N1 is much better.
The other issue is people don't want to pay for it. $379 is worth it to someone like me but a lot of people think that they can they for $179 and we obviously know that's not the case. I don't make money for selling phones so it doesn't matter to me. I'm as honest as I can be...
Anyone who lives in the bay area who can knows how mod my vibrant for the front facing camera willing to pay!!!! ; )
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Quit fixating on this stupid gimmick. If you want a dumb front-facing camera, go buy an iPhone4.
I like my vibrant tho im tired of all the hype of a iphone 4 if its a mod for my ffc im getting it
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raduque said:
Quit fixating on this stupid gimmick. If you want a dumb front-facing camera, go buy an iPhone4.
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Dude, if he wants an FFC, let him try to get one installed. What's it to you?
I live in SJ and I have two cameras coming. How much are you willing to pay for the mod?
raduque said:
Quit fixating on this stupid gimmick. If you want a dumb front-facing camera, go buy an iPhone4.
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A piece of hardware that was only removed because TMO didn't want it on their network is hardly a reason for someone to get an iphone. Samsung covered up the camera hole with some paint and left the mounting brackets in place. This is simply putting your phone back to the way the manufacturer intended it to be.
If people want to make video calls or take myspace pics (are they still called that even though pretty much no one uses myspace anymore?), then let them. We've got three Vibrants in the house & for $20-25 each, we can get a FFC, so I'll probably be doing this mod as well, even if I never actually use it. You'll still have something unique that 99% of the other phones out there will not have.
For the people that don't want apps sharing their GPS location without their consent (even though they gave it when they installed the app), that's a reason to go to iphone. For people that just want the phone "experience" to be magical out of the box, that's a reason to get an iphone (the rest of us LIKE that Google made it so pretty much everything is customizable).
tjhart85 said:
For the people that don't want apps sharing their GPS location without their consent (even though they gave it when they installed the app), that's a reason to go to iphone. For people that just want the phone "experience" to be magical out of the box, that's a reason to get an iphone (the rest of us LIKE that Google made it so pretty much everything is customizable).
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Well said.......
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or take myspace pics (are they still called that even though pretty much no one uses myspace anymore?),
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huh? I think you meant to say self-portraits. What does Myspace have to do with taking a picture of yourself?
androidmonkey said:
huh? I think you meant to say self-portraits. What does Myspace have to do with taking a picture of yourself?
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It's A Saying, Or A Phrase
I'm stay in cali, riverside if any one wants to pich in!
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Bspence415 said:
Anyone who lives in the bay area who can knows how mod my vibrant for the front facing camera willing to pay!!!! ; )
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I live in Tampa and we can get to a deal. You know that the only sell 3 at the time $17 each. Send me an email if still interested.
[email protected]
Sell your vibrant and get the international galaxy s and then unlock it and root it
Another option which I plan on doing when I get the loot, is to pick up an iPod Touch 4G and wifi tether it to my Vibrant. Plus this way il have the best of both worlds. Android Market and iOS Market.
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Samsung covered up the camera hole with some paint and left the mounting brackets in place. This is simply putting your phone back to the way the manufacturer intended it to be.
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Yeah, too bad Samsung didn't redesign the board to fix that. The camera was removed because T-Mobile didn't think it was necessary (and I agree), and to keep costs down.
If you REALLY want the device to be "how the manufacturer intended it to be", stop rooting, flashing roms, hacking it, and do a factory reset to JFD firmware and leave it alone.
Otherwise, you're just a hypocrit.
BTW, I truly believe that an FFC is a completely useless gimmick, and nothing more than a check on the box and something for people to ***** about it not being there. Nobody thought they wanted one till it wasn't there.
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Yeah, too bad Samsung didn't redesign the board to fix that. The camera was removed because T-Mobile didn't think it was necessary (and I agree), and to keep costs down.
Is you REALLY want the device to be "how the manufacturer intended it to be", stop rooting, flashing roms, hacking it, and do a factory reset to JFD firmware and leave it alone.
Otherwise, you're just a hypocrit.
BTW, I truly believe that an FFC is a completely useless gimmick, and nothing more than a check on the box and something for people to ***** about it not being there. Nobody thought they wanted one till it wasn't there.
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Okay you wrote this because? Nothing is perfect outta the box. You get a laptop and instantly get firefox or chrome, you order food at a resturant and add salt. Who said we hated our phones cause we mod them? I like the vibrant, I also like video chat, so if I can have both why not? No one is telling you to do it, you just keep running sammy's knock off ios touch wiz and leave the customization for people who understand what android is about. Better yet get a nice feature phone so I dont have to skim past your narrow minded crap. A hypocrit posts in xda about not modding a phone. Shove off troll. Help or leave.
Edit the ffc is built onto the i9000 cam prob costs an extra $5 tops in bulk, who here would not have paid a lincoln more for there phone?
Tmo removed it so the mytouch line would be the first to get it.
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OK, yes, maybe I'm trolling a little bit, but seriously, you people didn't even know you wanted this stupid gimmick till it wasn't there.
I wrote my last post because the guy said that putting in an FFC is "returning the device to the way the manufacturer intended". Well, the manufacturer intended you to use it with the unrooted stock UVJFD rom. Anything else (all the community roms, leaked roms, rooting, flashed GPS files from leaked roms, "lag fixes", etc) isn't the "way the manufacturer intended". Seems a bit hypocritical to me.
PS: I never said anybody hated their phone. Don't put text onto my keyboard that I never typed. For the record, I'm running LP+ on JI6 with a custom-modded Framework-res.apk and "/data/data to NAND" hack. So don't tell me I don't know anything about modding a phone.
Duly noted sir. I will hush. Lol
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jamboy5590 said:
Sell your vibrant and get the international galaxy s and then unlock it and root it
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Yeah, except for the whole lack of AWS bands, so you would get a ffc and no 3G whatsoever.
I live in atlanta ga I will pay someone to do this mod for me. I will pay pm me or email me at [email protected]
I live in the bay area and am willing to do this for you for $638.12
Please have all general discussions about the new Evo Shift here
Speaking in general, I can't wait to get mine!
I am absolutely loving mine. Hope you get yours soon!
This is a phenomenal upgrade from the Hero. I'm really pleased with the phone, again another polished device from HTC.
Eagerly awaiting root and gingerbread!
Picked it up yesterday. Absolutely love it. Quadrant standard is 1500+ and it beat the hell out of a stock Evo. Battery life is good but want to know more about its is processor chip..
how do you like the keyboard? specifically how does that square dpad feel? (is it capacitative or an actual button)
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how do you like the keyboard? specifically how does that square dpad feel? (is it capacitative or an actual button)
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I love the keyboard which reminds me of the G1's. The dpad is a physical button and to be honest I have not used it that much.
I didn't really think that I missed having a keyboard, but man it has been a pleasure to have this one at the ready.
nik4android said:
Picked it up yesterday. Absolutely love it. Quadrant standard is 1500+ and it beat the hell out of a stock Evo. Battery life is good but want to know more about its is processor chip..
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The GPU is the Andreno 205 here are the specs and a nice write up
Andreno 205
Here are the details of the MSM7630
Thanks. Also I love the keypad. Didn't realise how much I missed it when using my Evo.
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when using advanced task killer, how much memory do you guys usually have? i'm sitting at around 140MB but right after i reboot the phone and kill apps i got to 190MB. my evo was around 230MB after reboot and around 170MB after running for a while.
you think custom roms will help memory management and get all this crap off here? i thought the evo and the shift had the same amount of RAM (512mb)...
but man did i miss my keyboard. went to the evo, yelled at my phone for the keyboard probably 50 times a day, raised blood pressure im sure... now i got the physical keyboard, no guessing now.
the only thing I miss is the Evo screen size, but I am very very very happy with this phone. I can't stop playing with it. Gameboid with real buttons as controls makes it so much easier to play FFVI :-D I can't wait to overclock the snot out of this thing.
In stock?
If I haven't pre-ordered at this point, is it realistic for me to be able to find somewhere with this in stock tomorrow morning?
Another thing the Shift has also is the New Flip Clock. Although, I do know you can flash it on the Evo. However, you have to be rooted in order to it.
Yeah I picked mine up from radio shack two days ago for $150. Hell I was the first one the store sold and I went in at like 7pm. The reps didn't even know they had the phone on display yet.
yep, just walked into bby and came out with one 15min later...
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I just picked mine up. I upgraded from a HTC Touch Pro 2.
Edit: I had a question here, but I found an answer to it elsewhere. Be back later probably.
you can use PDAnet for now. It's a pay app, but you can use it free. Free version doesn't do secure sites. I'm gonna use it till I get rooted.
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I just picked mine up. I upgraded from a HTC Touch Pro 2.
As soon as I got my TP2 I flashed the rom over to MightyRom, and I used the Internet Sharing it had to tether to my laptop and that worked fine with my current Sprint plan.
Now I got the Shift with the stock rom and it is saying that I need to buy an additional $30 a month add on to my plan in order to tether to my laptop...
Anyone know a way to get around this with an app or a rom?
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Its was launched just today but has been available at radioshack and bb for a couple of days. The only way for tethering would be to root it and then use a custom rom. That is what I know imho.
Does anyone know if there every going to create the droid x multi touch keyboard for this phone...Yes this does have a physical keyboard but sometimes i like to type on screen, and that was my favorite keyboard on the OG Evo
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you can use PDAnet for now. It's a pay app, but you can use it free. Free version doesn't do secure sites. I'm gonna use it till I get rooted.
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I know you can do temporary root with "Zroot" and i think I read that the wifi tethering app also works after you use Zroot.
...and after discussing about the advantages and disadvantages of the Xoom, we finally left the store with the same thought of waiting for the Samsung 10.1 tablet.
What's the point of this thread????....
Patience is virtue.
I guess you don't mind the lack of an SD card slot...
Oh, wait.
Nor external ports...
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You made the right choice!
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Thanks for sharing
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I guess you don't mind the lack of an SD card slot...
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There is a .999999% that it may have the SD card slot. I am willing to wait until March 22 to find out.
Earthbrain said:
There is a .999999% that it may have the SD card slot. I am willing to wait until March 22 to find out.
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Lol not even 1% chance?
Earthbrain said:
...and after discussing about the advantages and disadvantages of the Xoom, we finally left the store with the same thought of waiting for the Samsung 10.1 tablet.
What's the point of this thread????....
Patience is virtue.
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Assuming there is sufficient advantage to waiting.
Waiting by itself doesn't qualify having patience. Sometimes it means you don't understand the choice. The only real "disadvantage" in buying the Xoom now is the price. What about the Samsung tablet appeals to you more? Or was this purely about the Xoom?
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Lol not even 1% chance?
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Ha, was laughing at that too.
Am I missing something. What on earth makes the tablet by Samsung any better than one by motorola unless you are a homunculus incapable of holding a 1.6lb device but can hold a 1.3?
In all seriousness though, besides aestethics and brand preference I don't see the draw. I am seriously looking googling to try and find the big deal. Moto is a proven OEM in the Android world, and the XOOM is wide open and soon to be 4G capable. I see that the 10.1 is supposed to be HSPA 21+mbps so I am assuming T-Mo's fake 4G?
It seems it has a better rear camera, higher resolution video, optional capacities, and a proximity sensor(did they forget this isn't a phone) in the THINGS THE XOOM DON'T category.
It has a single instead of dual led flash, no new data tech, no HDMI, no barometer(hmmm someone tell me wtf a barometer is for) no external memory(which I will be using to put music on my tablet when I get a deal on a 32gb microsd, or so I tell myself), no ambient light sensor(I don't like autobrightness but I see the utility) in the THINGS THE XOOM DOES category.
Options are good but I don't get the point of this pointless thread .
Earthbrain said:
There is a .999999% that it may have the SD card slot. I am willing to wait until March 22 to find out.
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It won't have an SD slot or a normal micro USB port, have fun!
setite said:
Options are good but I don't get the point of this pointless thread .
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probably hard to locate find the Galaxy Tab forum??
theahlenius said:
Assuming there is sufficient advantage to waiting.
Waiting by itself doesn't qualify having patience. Sometimes it means you don't understand the choice. The only real "disadvantage" in buying the Xoom now is the price. What about the Samsung tablet appeals to you more? Or was this purely about the Xoom?
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I did not mention in my first post that I also bought the Xoom at Motorola for 25% off and I already have the UPS tracking number and it will be delivered this coming Monday. My bank statement has shown that the charge is complete.
So the price is not really the issue here.
I will not open my Xoom on Monday when I received it but will wait for March 22 to decide.
Biggest advantages of the Samsung tablet are the following:
1. Lighter weight
2. Most likely a better screen (brighter/better contrast). You look at the screen 100% of the time when you use a tablet (unless you just listen to music) so this is very important.
Big disadvantage
1. May not be rootable
Like I mentioned, you don't seem to understand the choice if those are your only disadvantages. I get that you're waiting, I just find your attitude funny.
Earthbrain said:
There is a .999999% that it may have the SD card slot. I am willing to wait until March 22 to find out.
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Your a better man than me. Me, personally I will never buy another samsung product. What shortcomings does the Xoom have that the 10.1 won't have? From what I have read the 10.1 is inferior spec wise to the Xoom althoigh they are very close.
setite said:
Am I missing something. What on earth makes the tablet by Samsung any better than one by motorola unless you are a homunculus incapable of holding a 1.6lb device but can hold a 1.3?
In all seriousness though, besides aestethics and brand preference I don't see the draw. I am seriously looking googling to try and find the big deal. Moto is a proven OEM in the Android world, and the XOOM is wide open and soon to be 4G capable. I see that the 10.1 is supposed to be HSPA 21+mbps so I am assuming T-Mo's fake 4G?
It seems it has a better rear camera, higher resolution video, optional capacities, and a proximity sensor(did they forget this isn't a phone) in the THINGS THE XOOM DON'T category.
It has a single instead of dual led flash, no new data tech, no HDMI, no barometer(hmmm someone tell me wtf a barometer is for) no external memory(which I will be using to put music on my tablet when I get a deal on a 32gb microsd, or so I tell myself), no ambient light sensor(I don't like autobrightness but I see the utility) in the THINGS THE XOOM DOES category.
Options are good but I don't get the point of this pointless thread .
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Thats exactly what I was thinking plus you left one out. Samsung will never update it they will just have another come out in four months and make you pay for that. I will never buy samsung ever. Horrible company that forces a ****ty skin on its users and takes away uogrades making promises and never coming through, they care for nothing more than your money and i will leave you.
Samsung updated their phones in Europe
I am also waiting that March 22, but mainly for the 8.9" version.
Hope it will have better screen and more.
angermeans said:
Thats exactly what I was thinking plus you left one out. Samsung will never update it they will just have another come out in four months and make you pay for that. I will never buy samsung ever. Horrible company that forces a ****ty skin on its users and takes away uogrades making promises and never coming through, they care for nothing more than your money and i will leave you.
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[email protected] thread... First there were Apple fanboys, then phandroids now people are arguing and defending different android tablets... Motoroloids? Phansungs? When will it end?!! Who cares? And let's be honest, since when did arguing on the internet ever change someones stance on an issue? Get over it.
setite said:
barometer(hmmm someone tell me wtf a barometer is for)
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If you load Weatherbug you will see the barometer actually being used. Not very interesting right now unless you are a weather addict like me.
keitht said:
If you load Weatherbug you will see the barometer actually being used. Not very interesting right now unless you are a weather addict like me.
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What part. I couldn't figure out where it is.
angermeans said:
Thats exactly what I was thinking plus you left one out. Samsung will never update it they will just have another come out in four months and make you pay for that. I will never buy samsung ever. Horrible company that forces a ****ty skin on its users and takes away uogrades making promises and never coming through, they care for nothing more than your money and i will leave you.
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Thanks for that. I went into that post thinking about that point but I got sidetracked. It is fair to point out that Samsung has let all the initial Galaxy Tab owners twist in the wind with no word of whether they will ever see an update.
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What part. I couldn't figure out where it is.
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When you load Weatherbug you will see "My Device Stats" which shows the Barometer reading from your Xoom.
Screen attached.
So, I'll be picking up my Evo Design 4G bright and early Sunday morning I'll let you know how it goes and what I think after I've had it for a couple hours.
I've been waiting a while for a smaller version of the Evo to hit sprint... and now the wait is OVER
Just read about this on Engadget,looks like its going to be a pretty good phone. Might even pick one up off contact.
http://m.engadget.com/default/artic...e-october-23rd-f/&category=classic&postPage=1
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so this thing doesn't have a dual-core processor right?
No, it's still single core, but I'm not THAT hardcore on my phone anyway.. with what I do with my phones, once I find the right rom and kernel combo I'm smooth sailing. I've got two upgrades in the waiting so I'm going to use one on this phone. I just want it for the smaller frame. Personally I think 4.0" is perfect. These new 4.5, and 4.7" screens coming out, might as well have a damn tablet pressed to your face
The global roaming capabilities seems interesting as well. I wonder how well that will work in gsm areas around me.
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Why not just get a 3D?
Whooo! (Cole Voice...)
A little more ram and a extra 200mhz on the CPU PLUS a smaller screen. Whats the point in buying it?
Seems like a waste of time and money.
knowledge561 said:
Why not just get a 3D?
Whooo! (Cole Voice...)
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I want a smaller phone, that's my deal.. I'm sure I'll get the itch for better processing but I'll wait till mid next year and use my other upgrade for an LTE phone when its all up and running.
ItsLasher said:
A little more ram and a extra 200mhz on the CPU PLUS a smaller screen. Whats the point in buying it?
Seems like a waste of time and money.
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I'm just tired of carrying a brick around in my pants for now.. I'll root it, OC it to 1.5, rom, kernel, and it will be just perfect for me
Sathanvs said:
The global roaming capabilities seems interesting as well. I wonder how well that will work in gsm areas around me.
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I suspect that it will be as Sprint handled the GSM roaming on the TP2... i.e. it will not work on GSM in the US. The TP2 was SIM locked to only allow the GSM to work outside of the US.
_Cooze_ said:
No, it's still single core, but I'm not THAT hardcore on my phone anyway.. with what I do with my phones, once I find the right rom and kernel combo I'm smooth sailing. I've got two upgrades in the waiting so I'm going to use one on this phone. I just want it for the smaller frame. Personally I think 4.0" is perfect. These new 4.5, and 4.7" screens coming out, might as well have a damn tablet pressed to your face
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Very good point! 4 inch is great. 4.3 is big enough.
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The global roaming capabilities seems interesting as well. I wonder how well that will work in gsm areas around me.
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Yea, man. If I did a lot of international travel I could see myself buying this phone.
I was reaaaally digging this phone when I first read about it and looked at the video on it by wirefly.
Im still luggin my tp2 around, but its just about had it, it freezes after every text, sometimes it even restarts
And thats bad since I get like.... upwards of 300 texts a day
in anycase.
When I compared the tp2 and the design side by side.. the screens width is almost exactly the same.
its just taller.
When compared side by side with the 3d.. it lags a bit when doing the caruswheel and unlocking.
But aside from all that it looked amazing.
the screen is very pretty and I love the design of it.. smooth and hints of curves.
The main thing killing it for the 3d is the design of it. Its suck a brick.. sharp edges.. and that cam buttun just jumps out into everyones buisness lol
That being said.. Im rally torn between the 2.
When Im in austin tomorrow Im going to have to check it out again cause the one here in ft hood was a little glitch. it doesnt even auto rotate or light up the notifications led.
OH and day one while I was playing with it, (since it didnt rotate) I checked for updates and It already has a softwear update LMAO
Why not get the Nexus S 4g? Its 4" and a great phone.
ECrispy said:
Why not get the Nexus S 4g? Its 4" and a great phone.
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My gf has that phone.. she has alot of issues with it.
That and the release version has a bug where you cant send any text over the 160 charicter limit
3rd party apps dont help because even tho it lets her pass the charicter limit and 'chain' the messages like everyother phone does.. her phone will only send a "@" symble instead of the message everytime she passes the 160 limit of the phone.
And I text alot and send texts up to 400 charicters all the time.
So that wouldnt work for me
And as far as I can tell there wont be an official update for some time
I was thinking about getting the galexsy s ii epic 4g touch.. but dont really like the interface or the size. Its a tad too big in my opinion
aedon said:
OH and day one while I was playing with it, (since it didnt rotate) I checked for updates and It already has a softwear update LMAO
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That is the security update for that leak they found last month.. they all got it..
aedon said:
My gf has that phone.. she has alot of issues with it.
That and the release version has a bug where you cant send any text over the 160 charicter limit
3rd party apps dont help because even tho it lets her pass the charicter limit and 'chain' the messages like everyother phone does.. her phone will only send a "@" symble instead of the message everytime she passes the 160 limit of the phone.
And I text alot and send texts up to 400 charicters all the time.
So that wouldnt work for me
And as far as I can tell there wont be an official update for some time
I was thinking about getting the galexsy s ii epic 4g touch.. but dont really like the interface or the size. Its a tad too big in my opinion
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No update any time soon? ICS will likely hit the NS4G not too soon after the Galaxy Nexus is released. Probably early to mid December. The SMS issue is easily solved by integrating with Google Voice. SMSing is about million times better with GV than with anything else you'd try. Back up, online management, and now MMS support.
If you look hard enough a new/new-ish NS4G can be had for $200 on ebay. Not bad for a soon to be ICS, WiMax, and Google Wallet capable phone. I'm upgrading to the Galaxy Nexus if it comes to Sprint but I wouldn't have a single problem holding on to it for another couple of months if it doesn't.
_Cooze_ said:
I'm just tired of carrying a brick around in my pants for now.. I'll root it, OC it to 1.5, rom, kernel, and it will be just perfect for me
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My ex used to have another name for that "brick in my pants."
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MicrosoftBug said:
My ex used to have another name for that "brick in my pants."
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Since she's an ex, I'm guessinggggg........................ small rock?
_Cooze_ said:
Since she's an ex, I'm guessinggggg........................ small rock?
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lmao
anyway, the guys at the sprint store are saying the galexy nexus is set to his around november 15thish
As far as the nexus s 4g, I can get it for like 50 bucks from sprint cause of my sero upgrade price.
but her phones already running 2.3.7 and she has the texting issue, her phone freezes and restarts all the time, and she looses data randomly.
and its not just hers, her sister has the same phone with the same problems
I decided against the evo design. 100% no after looking at it at another storeyesturday, it only plays the left channel of any audio, I loaded multiple music videos on youtube of songs I normally listen to and I was only getting have the sounds out of the phones speaker.