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Evo had problems, instinct had LOTS of problems, hell my touch pro 2 NEVER ran 100% right.
Now here I am with an Epic, where the gps doesnt work unless I reboot the phone, uploading a 1.2 mb picture takes entirely too long on 3g as well as the phone studders like heck while it's SLOWLY uploading AND to top it all off - it's looking for a signal 50% or more of the time that I'm in a FULL SIGNAL area.
My question is this:
When did this become acceptable in our society? Why are people not being fired over this?????
What MOD EDIT tester didn't notice that 3g uploads are capped? And did they NEVER EVEN TRY TO USE THE GPS after a night or day of the phone being on?
Coming from the touch pro 2 and touch diamond I was SO READY for the Epic to ROCK MY WORLD.
The sad thing is IT WOULD HAVE if I didn't have to deal with these little annoying issues.
Turning airplane mode on and off everyday so my battery will last 12 hours..which still isnt that good.. Rebooting the phone before I plan to use it for ANYTHING navigation related.
What a sour taste I have in my mouth. I know apologists will say "it hasn't even been out a month" well guess what, I work in IT and if I rolled out something new and it didn't work CORRECTLY on the first day, someone is getting in trouble, if I go home before it's fixed, I get fired.
It should be the same thing with the wireless phone industry.
/rant off.
as much as i enjoy my epic i must agree with you, but its not just the phone industry, hell look at video games took ms years to finally get the rrod under control, sony had its ylod problems too....
Dear god, I am sick and tired of seeing these stupid rants everyday.
Every phone is going to have a problem with it, nothing is perfect.
Complaining about it isn't going to magically make it all better.
If your having that many problems with it, then why not return it?
Mods, please make a rant Forum.
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Dear god, I am sick and tired of seeing these stupid rants everyday.
Every phone is going to have a problem with it, nothing is perfect.
Complaining about it isn't going to magically make it all better.
If your having that many problems with it, then why not return it?
Mods, please make a rant Forum.
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That's a great question and the answer is......because I have no alternative device like this with a keyboard.
Your attitude of "every phone is going to have a problem with it" is exactly WHY this whole situation exists in the first place. People are just OK with this type of thing happening.
Also - it's not just me having problems, the whole internet is FULL of epic owners with the same ****ty issues. All I'm saying is that EVERYTIME a phone is rolled out and **** DOESNT WORK - someone should be losing his or her job BECAUSE HE OR SHE DIDNT DO THEIR JOB!!
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That's a great question and the answer is......because I have no alternative device like this with a keyboard.
Your attitude of "every phone is going to have a problem with it" is exactly WHY this whole situation exists in the first place. People are just OK with this type of thing happening.
Also - it's not just me having problems, the whole internet is FULL of epic owners with the same ****ty issues. All I'm saying is that EVERYTIME a phone is rolled out and **** DOESNT WORK - someone should be losing his or her job BECAUSE HE OR SHE DIDNT DO THEIR JOB!!
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People can only do so much with the limited resources they have.
I am guessing your attitude of a phone is that is has to be perfect.
There is never going to be a phone that is perfect.
Sure, there are problems with this phone, dont you think samsung already knows about this and is trying to fix this?
I'm happy with the Epic apart from the fact it pulls power from the battery while plugged in causing it to take forever to charge if you using it heavily.
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People can only do so much with the limited resources they have.
I am guessing your attitude of a phone is that is has to be perfect.
There is never going to be a phone that is perfect.
Sure, there are problems with this phone, dont you think samsung already knows about this and is trying to fix this?
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According to a sprint admin on the board they had no idea about this till we started reporting it. Why would samsung release a phone with horrible battery life and a crippled GPS if they knew about it? How did sprint testing NOT REALIZE that 3g doesn't go any faster then 150k.
No a phone doesn't have to be perfect, but these issues are DETRIMENTAL to how the phone works.
What's funny is while I was at the store they had plenty of Epics and not one EVO. I'm sitting there wondering why. I guess I know why now.
While I can be a LOT more patient with stuff, and thats because I am too trusting... I have been lately getting more and more aware that some things were overlooked with this phone.
I'm still hoping though, but I got screwed with the Instinct, from.. wait for it, Samsung, because that was supposed to be the first phone to challenge the iPhone and NOTHING, i mean NOTHING ever came out for it. That phone required reboot a year after it came out for some of the dumb issues, cause it wasn't ever updated, and then it was just flat out not really supported with apps like it was supposed to.
Then I got the Pre (diff company I know) but that was the next iPhone killer, and no apps (besides independent minor developing) for 6 months, while Palm and Sprint sat on their asses deciding to not allow developers to work on the Pre for that time for no reason. Result was after a good launch, people got tired and new phones started coming in.
Now this phone has only been out less than 3 weeks and already got an update, which feels to me that it did help the battery some while using 3G, but I gotta test it out some more. I'll be patient with this one, but it's the last device I get and hang on to if it has certain issues from the get go, because you're right j3ff, I think that all the time too, that people that are cool with a product that is mediocre from the get go is the reason why the US has so many crappy things out before they should be, it's also why Europe and Asia are 3 - 5 years ahead in diff tech areas (devices or services).
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What's funny is while I was at the store they had plenty of Epics and not one EVO. I'm sitting there wondering why. I guess I know why now.
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The popularity of the evo has absolutely nothing to do with the issues that the epic has.
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According to a sprint admin on the board they had no idea about this till we started reporting it. Why would samsung release a phone with horrible battery life and a crippled GPS if they knew about it? How did sprint testing NOT REALIZE that 3g doesn't go any faster then 150k.
No a phone doesn't have to be perfect, but these issues are DETRIMENTAL to how the phone works.
What's funny is while I was at the store they had plenty of Epics and not one EVO. I'm sitting there wondering why. I guess I know why now.
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Dear god, why don't you call Samsung up and ask them then?
I have to admit, my phone does have some problems with it.
But I deal with them. By far this is one of the best phones I've ever had.
Every one who buys the epic right aways does beta testing for them. They know it. This is real world testing for them. Just have to deal with it. Yeah it sucks
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Yea I have to agree that the Evo being constantly sold out has nothing to do with the Epic.. What it is, is that Samsung makes the HTC Evo screens. And with them having other devices to make screens for, they only have so many to go around extra for the Evo, especially since its a slightly bigger than normal screen. This means, whenever Samsung decides to toss some screens HTCs way, they do, otherwise their own devices are a priority. And since Samsung makes the Epic AND the S-AMOLED screens there's no shortage of screens for their own device, hence a lot more Epics on hand. I am surprised that HTC didn't go for the S-Amoled screen too, I think that would have turned the tide for some owners.
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Dear god, why don't you call Samsung up and ask them then?
I have to admit, my phone does have some problems with it.
But I deal with them. By far this is one of the best phones I've ever had.
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Dear god, you are the problem, you deal with them and pay major amounts of MONEY and you're just OK with that.
Sure it's a good phone, but phones up to THREE OR FOUR years OLDER both upload FASTER then the epic and have a full fledged working gps.
Also - I did call samsung and sprint, just like I hope all others will, there is NO REASON to just lay down and "dont worry" about major flaws in a flagship device.
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Dear god, you are the problem, you deal with them and pay major amounts of MONEY and you're just OK with that.
Sure it's a good phone, but phones up to THREE OR FOUR years OLDER both upload FASTER then the epic and have a full fledged working gps.
Also - I did call samsung and sprint, just like I hope all others will, there is NO REASON to just lay down and "dont worry" about major flaws in a flagship device.
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1: I do not pay major amounts of money, I got my Epic as a replacement for my broken HTC Evo.
2:I do not recall the older phones having a GPS four years ago.
Your logic is flawed.
This topic largely turned into what I expected it to...
Yes, Americans are completely willing to deal with broken crap as long as they can tie some fanboy fervor to it. Seriously, all you people in here berating OP here because he doesn't really LIKE the fact that he pays top dollar to beta test things need to grow the hell up. There was a topic like this on the Sprint forums where one particular poster was defending the 150kbps upload cap because he claims to never need to upload anything. It doesn't matter if YOU care about the issue, all that matters is that its there and that it happens to be a couple of issues that should not make it out of beta testing.
Geez, I thought the Xbox 360 was the end of this acceptance of unacceptably broken crap.
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2:I do not recall the older phones having a GPS four years ago.
Your logic is flawed.
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Then you haven't been in the high end phone game for 4 years.
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Then you haven't been in the high end phone game for 4 years.
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Funny thing is, I have. I bought the original iphone, and I dont remember that having a GPS.
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Yes, Americans are completely willing to deal with broken crap as long as they can tie some fanboy fervor to it. Seriously, all you people in here berating OP here because he doesn't really LIKE the fact that he pays top dollar to beta test things need to grow the hell up. There was a topic like this on the Sprint forums where one particular poster was defending the 150kbps upload cap because he claims to never need to upload anything. It doesn't matter if YOU care about the issue, all that matters is that its there and that it happens to be a couple of issues that should not make it out of beta testing.
Geez, I thought the Xbox 360 was the end of this acceptance of unacceptably broken crap.
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It really is crazy to me. Like i said at my job, if stuff doesn't work I don't go home, EVER. Doesn't matter what it is. How can a big company like Samsung let their designers and people who actually give life to the phone leave and go home if the day before they ship them to sprint everything isn't at least CLOSE to 100%
I bought a pocket PC 6700 like 5 years ago, had Naviagtion, and before that I had a phone that had Navigation I believe too. So your problem was the iPhone didn't have, not devices not having GPS
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Funny thing is, I have. I bought the original iphone, and I dont remember that having a GPS.
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Lol, you mean the original iPhone that failed to ship with 3G support at a time when entry level Nokia's had 3G? The iPhone hasn't been the best phone shipped that year for any of its releases. That gentleman said HIGH end.
How much do you think I could sell my two nexus ones?
sell your dad instead
LOL ... Are you selling them as a box set
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sell your dad instead
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LoL thats some funny **** there MuckenMire
Dad's can be replaced... Nexus Ones unfortunately cannot
What conditions is it in? Go on to Ebay and Craigs List and get some ideas.
When I was searching I see anywhere from $300 to $400 for "Good" and up to about $450 to $500 for "mint".
Keep in mind what one person think "mint" might not be another person's "mint"
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Dad's can be replaced... Nexus Ones unfortunately cannot
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You got that right
Just use the Nexus on EDGE- there is nothing on AT&T that compares. Unless you can put up with the disgrace to mobile phones that the iPhone 4 is.
Nah, my wife has their galaxy phone, captivate I think? It isnt horrid out of the box and with a little work it performs pretty well. I'll leave the materials out of it, they dont compare but since I put my phones in a case right off the bat I could care less as I never see them. Primary function that I would miss would be the trackball, forgot how much fun it was to try and edit text by attempting (over and over) to hit the sweet spot. Easier to just delete back to the mistake and start over from there. Still life could be a lot worse than to be stuck with that phone. Also over there is the x10 which has more downsides than the sammy piece but might be worth a look for the right person. These and the iphone are about the only handsets worth talking about for the moment.
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Primary function that I would miss would be the trackball, forgot how much fun it was to try and edit text by attempting (over and over) to hit the sweet spot. Easier to just delete back to the mistake and start over from there.
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I've never once used the N1 trackball to edit text. With practice you'll get REALLY good at hitting that sweet spot the first try. I only use the trackball for waking the device and color notifications. I had too many Blackberry trackballs get ruined by too much use to ever use my N1 trackball that way.
I admit I would miss the trackball, but in my case for the color notifications. I love coming back to my desk and knowing what is waiting just by looking at the trackball.
lol, yeah, maybe a young whipper snapper or crackberry user might find it easy but being old and pathetic I find it near impossible. I use the volume to wake as it appears to be the hard button with the least breakage reports. Considering that I seldom need to edit text and I use the trackball for nothing else I'm guessing mine might be around longer than yours.
I am gonna get flame for this but....
Iphone 4 is not half as bad you think. I have a n1 for my daily use. I dont think i will trade it in for a new device. However i was sick and tired of running my battery down by using it as my mp3 player so i picked up a ip4 to use as my music player. I was very surprised how smooth it runs. However the UI is plain and boring though. Maybe that was what apple was going for plain and boring. Android is very customizable. Make your own style.
Anways forgive me of this mumble jumble talk of ip4.
There is always a nexus one for att which i use. You can leave from n1 to att n1.
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Just use the Nexus on EDGE- there is nothing on AT&T that compares. Unless you can put up with the disgrace to mobile phones that the iPhone 4 is.
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Sure, you're an android fanboy, we get it, but the iphone isn't 'that' bad.
Why do you have to switch if your dad switches that's my question.
As for the N1's ... I'd never sell them... too valuble atm. Go for high price
Yeah, you don't have to sell your Nexus Ones.
You use them on ATT with Edge, and in the mean time you keep searching craigslist and posting ads in other places wanting to trade your TMobile Nexus One for someone who has a ATT Nexus one.
Easy as pie. I've done that, my friend has done that. Sure N1's, especially ATT ones are hard to find, but just keep looking. It's a phone that has no equal, it's worth it.
You can also try to trade with someone with the AT&T version N1. Try searching for it on craigslist.
I just traded a captivate for a Att nexus one. They are rare and it took me a month or more to find one
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Just find someone to trade Tmo version for AT&T version. I may be switching carriers with two of my lines. Not sure if Tmo is the carrier I'm choosing yet though. If a decision is made soon I will let you know.
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If you can't find an AT&T-compatible N1, try finding an unlocked Telus HTC Desire. It's largely the same hardware, and if you don't want Sense you can flash Cyanogen or OpenDesire.
Maybe I'm just a glass half full kinda guy but at least with att your phone will work in buildings and between cities and they do have decent androids unlike when they just had the backflip or whatever it was called. The sgs is definitely stellar and I thought there was an att compatible nexus (not just the tmo one on E)
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You've got that right, deleting and starting over is really frustrating but less so than tapping my screen for five minutes. I wonder what the testers did that worked so well that the SGS got past design and all the way to stores like that
If anyone is looking for ATT 3G Nexus, I got one for sale right here @ http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=836653
After a few months, the novelty of the phone has worn off and I find myself disliking and regreting my choice to buy this phone more and more every day. From the lack of froyo, software stability issues, gps, problems, useless keyboard, etc, it just seems more and more unsuited for daily use. I'm also becoming disappointed in Sprint's network. At first I thought it was leaps and bounds better than T-Mobile but now I'm not so sure. "4G" is an absolute joke unless you're outside, standing still, and 100 ft from a tower. This is not a flaming bash thread, just how I feel. I'm wondering if anyone else shares my views.
P.S. I live in NYC
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Sorry for the bad experiences man. I'm actually the opposite. I like it more and more everyday. I'm running epic experience froyo. Gps locks in seconds.(for me anyway) runs very smooth. Can't comment on 4g cause its not availabe in my area. Everyones has their opinion I guess. Have you considered the evo? I have to say thogh the evo has a better radio. A couple of friends have it and Ill be sitting right next to them and they get 2-3 more bars than me in certain areas. That's just my observation tho.
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Personally, I still dig the phone even more than I did when I got it. My 4g isn't great either, but there when I need it- anywhere from 2-5mbits. Despite the little the devs have had to work with, my phone (on 2.2) is way faster than when I got it. Stability wise- I've had a few self induced setbacks, but now I back up more often. Once the source is out, the sky's the limit.
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I feel the exact opposite. I'm loving my epic more and more every day. I've been running the froyo betas since day one and it runs just as good if not better than my buddies evo running the official froyo. I do believe I can do without the hardware keyboard because I find myself using the software kb a lot more than I thought I would. But my phone has been great so far. And for some reason I've never had a problem with gps. Even on froyo. I'm in ny also but I live out east in suffolk county so we don't have 4g yet. Doesn't bother me though when I'm home I use my wifi and at work we have wifi as well so I'm good with that. Also.. since having the epic, I get kind of disgusted when I look at a non SAMOLED screen. They look so washed out. This includes the iphone 4s screen although it is a bit sharper
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Sorry for the bad experiences man. I'm actually the opposite. I like it more and more everyday. I'm running epic experience froyo. Gps locks in seconds.(for me anyway) runs very smooth. Can't comment on 4g cause its not availabe in my area. Everyones has their opinion I guess. Have you considered the evo? I have to say thogh the evo has a better radio. A couple of friends have it and Ill be sitting right next to them and they get 2-3 more bars than me in certain areas. That's just my observation tho.
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Lol I must have been typing my reply as you posted yours. But our replies look similar
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Lol. First I ditched my captivate(pay as you go) then I got suckered into getting a fascinate and couldn't regret it more. That's why this message is sent from my incredible. And not a Samsung phone period. If Sammy made a phone that sucked my ****, swallowed, and showed pix of Kim kardashian while doing it I still wouldn't buy another one.
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Lol. First I ditched my captivate(pay as you go) then I got suckered into getting a fascinate and couldn't regret it more. That's why this message is sent from my incredible. And not a Samsung phone period. If Sammy made a phone that sucked my ****, swallowed, and showed pix of Kim kardashian while doing it I still wouldn't buy another one.
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The incredible is cute I guess. But I needed a mans phone. I'm done with any screen smaller than 4 in. The incredible is a decent phone but it is inferior to the epic in just about every way. But have fun with that though. And on top of that u pay so much more a month. So its a lose lose in my eyes. Sero ftw
Also i don't see the problem ppl are having with sammy phones. This is my first sammy phone after about 6 htc phones and I don't regret the switch at all. It feels a little plasticy at first but the quality is definitely not bad at all
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I don't have many phone to go by cause this is my first android phone but my friends from work who have iphone4, blackberry and a few other smartphones are all praising my Epic.
As far as 4g goes, I use it all the time and always get a good signal indoors or outdoors. BTW I'm in the Boston market. I did notice while in queens new york I didn't get a 4g signal indoors.
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Lol I must have been typing my reply as you posted yours. But our replies look similar
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Haha agree!
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The incredible is cute I guess. But I needed a mans phone. I'm done with any screen smaller than 4 in. The incredible is a decent phone but it is inferior to the epic in just about every way. But have fun with that though. And on top of that u pay so much more a month. So its a lose lose in my eyes. Sero ftw
Also i don't see the problem ppl are having with sammy phones. This is my first sammy phone after about 6 htc phones and I don't regret the switch at all. It feels a little plasticy at first but the quality is definitely not bad at all
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Agree 100%. I would like to see 2.2.1 officially released though.
I am still in love with the phone. The only thing I wish is that we had 2.2 officially.
Actually, yeah, I'm right there with ya. I waited and waited and held off on buying an Evo, in spite of the fact that my wife and my dad were loving theirs, anxiously awaiting Epic launch day. I'm starting to regret it now, like for real. But I don't think the Evo is the perfect phone for me either, but it seems closer. I really like some of the other phones out there, but now I'm stuck on a Sprint family plan, and there isn't **** coming out any time soon (yeah, I know about the Knight, or Evo Shift or whatever, but I don't want a keyboard, dammit). Seems like T-Mo and Verizon are getting sweet new high end phones every week, and Sprint is just happy to get by on the success of the Evo. I guess I might be looking for a trade for an Evo soon, or selling mine on Ebay to buy an Evo. I really want to love this phone, but Samsung just isn't letting me. It'd be nice if every phone was available on every carrier. Stupid back door carrier/manufacturer deals.
Can we just stop making posts about how we hate our epics this is how the community gets into fights, that and when noobs ask questions.
THE FROYO EPIC EXPERIENCE
I'm in nyc and i dont have any of the issues you seem to have, i get 4g at work 5/1 d/u
i get 4g at home 7/1.2 d/u, my 3g service is fairly awesome(except on the corner of 22nd and park where i get ONLY get 4g). the phone itself is everything i expected, i bought great hardware. i fully expected to be able to hack at it and make it how i wanted, which is what we got with the albiet lackluster dev community, but at least i have froyo, the only major drawback that i can see to the epic has been the rather inconsitent seeming quality control on the hardware itself.
GPS working perfect on some or not at all/spotty on others. the major downside to the GPS problem and trying to find a fix(which could be as stupid as putting a papperclip on the internal antenae(dont do this it was only an example)) or just waiting for source and recompiling the drivers to cover more internal revisions of the chip. im guessing that since froyo is still "private beta" that the gps problems will persist, but since everyone seems to believe that di18 had solved it for all, it's hard to say. if you're unhappy with the phone because you feel left behind i dunno what to say except, did you really expect to get more than just a great hardware device and a phone network? We all bought this one above all else because of what it was not what it could become.
I enjoy this phone more and more everyday. I switched over from tmobile and I had the g1 with them and then the motorola cliq, they both worked fine when I 1st got them but being on the tmobile network was a pain, they always had problems(so I'm glad I ditced them after 5 yrs of service.)
Now as for the epic, its way faster then my other 2 android phones from tmobile and it let's me do more, I'm also in NYC and I've notice that 4g only works for me when I'm in the city. When I head home (brooklyn) it just doesn't stay connected to the 4g service so ill agree with you there. The other thing that I don't like is the keyboard and its lag, other then those two things I can deal with this phone, its quite fast and screen is freaking beautiful!
P.S: battery problem is a common for android phones so I don't include that in my dislikes.
- Its just going to be Epic!
I would say I like this phone the exact amount as the day I got it, which is a lot. I would say I like android more and more each day as I find new more useful apps.
As far as the phone is concerned I live and work very close to major freeways so 4g reception is terrific in my workplace and in my home, in fact it is better than 3g in both places. A downside for me is that this phone seems to have worse reception than my old tp2 but it has never really been to much of an issue. The battery has never been a problem for me, I can make it run out in a few hours if I really wanted but last weekend I was sick on the couch the whole holiday and my phone made it 40+ hours chillin beside me since i didn't really use it much. The keyboard is no touch pro 2 but I still prefer it over the screen for typing long emails and now that i have a GAMEGRIPPER i play emulators quite a bit. I do still need to shave down some of the gamegrippers buttons but i digress. Overall I am very satisfied and I hope that there are developers out there who will make stuff targeted at more powerful phones like ours.
edit: sorry the screenshot is kinda weird but it is still readable and my screen was only on for 62 min.
I suppose that there are more things to hate right now.
Battery life needs improvement. Hate.
My phone recently overheated and shut down. Hate.
Ran out of room for apps. Hate.
Pen-tile and poor whites. Hate.
GPS is worthless. Hate.
Very responsive. Like.
Boots up pretty quickly. Like.
Looks different than other phones. Like.
Keyboard - not sure. I actually want a 5-row keyboard, but I want one like the HTC Touch Pro 2; this layout isn't that great.
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I am still in love with the phone. The only thing I wish is that we had 2.2 officially.
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Ok.. this thread is not as boring as the other ones.. I agree with the above,
there is so much to like about the phone. If you don't like it.. get a phone that suits you.
Nah, my phone is really cool I totally dig it. About the only thing I dislike is the fact that the battery doesn't last very long.
About the keyboard.. its funny, I do a lot of typing through swype, like at least 80% or so. Sometimes I think I could have gotten away without a physical keyboard, then I go to type some non-dictionary word or url or something and it's just easier to flip out the physical keyboard than it is to fight with the on screen keyboard. I think of it like that old saying about guns.. "Better the have one and not need it than to need one and not have it."
edit: getting froyo on my phone was pretty easy. I'm marginally technically inclined and it wasn't any harder than installing/configuring an OS on a desktop (I guess technically it is exactly that) It took about a few hours of research and a couple retries to sort all the kinks out but it's very smooth now.
still bitter about that battery tho..
oh yea not receiving 4G service in San Pedro yet still paying extra for 4G is lame..
So, as the title states, I am about to quit. I keep having problems with software and hardware alike. I'm like on my tenth NS... I think I would be leaving Android for a while too. If I returned it I would go with a BB 9780. I don't know, I would love your opinions though, because, surprisingly enough, this is a hard decision.
Thanks all.
I say sell it & get the Motorola Atrix when it comes out. It's a really powerful phone. However you might want to wait a few weeks after it's out & get as much feedback & info as possible. You never know.
Thank you, but I'm not interested in Motorola, plus, there will be phones with the same specs, if not better in the coming months. I'm just disappointed in the NS, and I want to stick with Google, they deliver the best Android experience. And I've always loved BB
Omfg a TENTH NS??! Sounds like the store got a bad batch try a different store.
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There's three in my area. I finally bought one online (10th, got it today), and I'm just not happy at all. I was using an old BB 8900 and I loved it.
What is wrong?
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What is wrong?
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Another screen crease, volume buttons, random reboot, and a dead pixel.
You seem to be extremely unlucky..
i agree. You are definately very down in luck to have 10? bad NS.
I'm absolutely in love with my NS coming from the N1...
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You seem to be extremely unlucky..
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Yeah, I am... Ok. I made my mind up. I'm gonna return it. I just dont feel the magic anymore. And BB is really pulling me back.
I have a bunch of accessories including two extra batteries (1400mAh) w/charger (china), tech 21 case (from UK), samsung neoprene pouch (eBay). If anyone is interested, $65 shipped, tomorrow even if you wanted.
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i agree. You are definately very down in luck to have 10? bad NS.
I'm absolutely in love with my NS coming from the N1...
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Yeah I agree too, but don't you see how I'm like ready to be done with this ****?! Like, no more NS at all. I'm done.
Easy, killer. If you don't want it, you don't want it. No biggie.
I went through 6 of these before I found a good one.
Now that I do have a good one everything is great. Dead pixel is a problem but the volume rocker seeming loose and the screen crease are not really defects I'd say. The majority have that. If the phone is rebooting on stock 2.3 then you def got a lemon.
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Sorry to hear that. You do have bad luck, dont hope it follows you to your next phone.
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So a "crackberry addict"* couldn't make the switch to android. That's not surprising, it's a big paradigm shift to make.
My iPhone loving friend tried a Vibrant with Froyo and hated it no end. He couldn't make the switch either.
If you went through 10 Nexus S, and they legitimately were defective, you've had the worst luck I've ever seen anyone have with phones.
Thanks for sharing.
*crackberry addict used strictly tongue in cheek and is in no way intended to be some kind of slur
maybe try a HTC device with Froyo 2.2
like the HTC Desire Z
it's an easier switch for BB addicts, it got a real keyboard, fast, and work properly right out of the box without any customization
i'll have picked one up for myself if it came with SAMOLED
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So a "crackberry addict"* couldn't make the switch to android. That's not surprising, it's a big paradigm shift to make.
My iPhone loving friend tried a Vibrant with Froyo and hated it no end. He couldn't make the switch either.
If you went through 10 Nexus S, and they legitimately were defective, you've had the worst luck I've ever seen anyone have with phones.
Thanks for sharing.
*crackberry addict used strictly tongue in cheek and is in no way intended to be some kind of slur
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Its funny. I had a Bold 9700 and decided to get a mytouch3g 3.5MM and after about a week, sold it and went back to my blackberry bold.. I started to get the itch about 3 months later to buy a Nexus One. Had it for about 1 month and said AGAIN, not for me, and sold it. Went back to a Bold 9700...
Now, I thought about the Nexus S and said hell, why not try it out.. SOLD THE BLACKBERRY after 1 week with the Nexus. I love the nexus s..
It took me a while, but I made the jump and i'm not going back.
Blackberry Pros : Battery life is amazing, Text, Email, BBM, Can drop it off a building and still works, solid phone. KEYBOARD IS AWESOME
Cons: App Store non-existent, almost no memory built into the phones, web is horrible !! Battery Pulls, Freezing ,should I continue ?
A good friend of mine just switched from a tour to an Evo and after a week went back to the Tour.. He is already telling me he misses the web and maps from the evo.
Long story Long : See you back here in a few months when you buy the Galaxy S 2 lol
So "quit" it and be done. Why do people feel the need to announce their every thought here?
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So "quit" it and be done. Why do people feel the need to announce their every thought here?
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Because I value you my fellow xda members' opinions. Is that wrong?
I've had every kind of phone, whether it be Android (HTC Magic, Nexus One, Nexus S, WP7 (HD7), iPhone (1, 2, 3, & 4) , BlackBerry (8310, 8900, 9000), Nokia (N96, N97). So, it's not like this was my first Android experience and the NS killed it for me, I'm an experienced Android user, but I will be back one day when something amazing comes out. And for now I'm choosing BB for a replacement. But, I'm not a crackberry addict, I was like two years ago with the Bold 9000, maybe I will be now, but that's beside the point.
I just thought that your guys' opinions mattered, so thanks to the nice people here, and I'll be seeing you guys around later on..
Zach
Quit. This thread is entirely too long for another rant. Don't like it don't keep it.
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I got this phone on launch. Had the EVO and Hero previously. Had to return one, my fault for partitioning and not backing up before hand.
Running CM7 stock kernel and I am not looking back. It's faster, lighter and the screen is just amazing. I would like to have an LED notifier and HDMI out but I can deal with that.
Anyone in the same boat wondering if you should switch, do it! You will not regret it.
Cheers.
nope got rid of mine on saturday. got an evo until the 3d or galaxy s 2 comes. too many radio issues.
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I got this phone on launch. Had the EVO and Hero previously. Had to return one, my fault for partitioning and not backing up before hand.
Running CM7 stock kernel and I am not looking back. It's faster, lighter and the screen is just amazing. I would like to have an LED notifier and HDMI out but I can deal with that.
Anyone in the same boat wondering if you should switch, do it! You will not regret it.
Cheers.
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Hey, another Minnesotan! Which part do you live in? Around/near the Cities? How's your reception? I live up by Plymouth/Maple Grove and go down the western suburbs all the time. My signal is VERY spotty. I wanna compare to see if maybe exchanging might help.
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nope got rid of mine on saturday. got an evo until the 3d or galaxy s 2 comes. too many radio issues.
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...Can you please go away yet? We all know you don't like the Nexus. You've posted it 3493 times. You're spamming.
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Hey, another Minnesotan! Which part do you live in? Around/near the Cities? How's your reception? I live up by Plymouth/Maple Grove and go down the western suburbs all the time. My signal is VERY spotty. I wanna compare to see if maybe exchanging might help.
...Can you please go away yet? We all know you don't like the Nexus. You've posted it 3493 times. You're spamming.
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why should i go away? i never said i didn't like it. im not like some of you that stick to a defective device. if you think i was the only one complaining i suggest you do a google search. best buy told me flat out they have had a ton of nexus returns lately. what does that tell you?
you sure don't see me going round telling you guys to return it. so enjoy and stop trying 'failing" to flame!
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why should i go away? i never said i didn't like it. im not like some of you that stick to a defective device. if you think i was the only one complaining i suggest you do a google search. best buy told me flat out they have had a ton of nexus returns lately. what does that tell you?
you sure don't see me going round telling you guys to return it. so enjoy and stop trying 'failing" to flame!
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Very few products launch with zero glitches. It always takes a few months before everything gets ironed out. Even the all mighty iPhone suffers from this. Besides in my area the service is identical to my other sprint android phone, the epic. Its almost certainly a flawed prl as it seems to only effect certain people in certain areas and will surely be fixed.
You cant always expect perfection when being an early adopter.
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nope got rid of mine on saturday. got an evo until the 3d or galaxy s 2 comes. too many radio issues.
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My second one works perfectly now. Radios are good and will only get better. Good luck fixxer, you will find a phone.
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Hey, another Minnesotan! Which part do you live in? Around/near the Cities? How's your reception? I live up by Plymouth/Maple Grove and go down the western suburbs all the time. My signal is VERY spotty. I wanna compare to see if maybe exchanging might help.
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I live in the south metro in a no sprint zone. I get one or 2 4g bars. It is identical to the EVO though, at least in my case. The Hero was also the same. When they recalibrate the towers up in Outing I will be golden.
Not you again.
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I made my mind up and I'm keeping my Nexus S. I love it
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I live in the south metro in a no sprint zone. I get one or 2 4g bars. It is identical to the EVO though, at least in my case. The Hero was also the same. When they recalibrate the towers up in Outing I will be golden.
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It doesn't matter where I am in the Metro, I'm getting spotty signal. Do you think I should switch it out? This one is actually my second, as the first one couldn't stay on 4G even in coverage areas. In the best buy in Ridgedale it would get signal and drop before the sales rep could even walk it out of the store, so he exchanged it for me. Maybe I'll have luck the third time.
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I live in the south metro in a no sprint zone. I get one or 2 4g bars. It is identical to the EVO though, at least in my case. The Hero was also the same. When they recalibrate the towers up in Outing I will be golden.
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im in victoria MN no 4g for me
Fixx: So did you just switch your phone again? Is that 2 or 3 nexus phones now?
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why should i go away? i never said i didn't like it. im not like some of you that stick to a defective device. if you think i was the only one complaining i suggest you do a google search. best buy told me flat out they have had a ton of nexus returns lately. what does that tell you?
you sure don't see me going round telling you guys to return it. so enjoy and stop trying 'failing" to flame!
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I haven't had any problems with mine. Everything so far has been awesome! Sucks to be you fix
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I love the phone, but I'm on my second one and still having radio issues. I can't hold a wifi signal unless I'm right in front of the router and 3G signal is low and fluctuates like crazy. I'm going back to an Evo tomorrow since BB has them for $50 so the extra loot in my pocket won't hurt either.
I got a second one because it's really a killer phone, but I'm afraid I'm gonna be stuck with a crappy radio for months and I'm not willing to do that.
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I love the phone, but I'm on my second one and still having radio issues. I can't hold a wifi signal unless I'm right in front of the router and 3G signal is low and fluctuates like crazy. I'm going back to an Evo tomorrow since BB has them for $50 so the extra loot in my pocket won't hurt either.
I got a second one because it's really a killer phone, but I'm afraid I'm gonna be stuck with a crappy radio for months and I'm not willing to do that.
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Have you tried doing a PRL update. I did that along with flashing decks rom and I have awesome wifi and 3G better than my Evo or epic
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I'll be keeping mine
You're a fool if you think the EVO 3D wont have problems.
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Have you tried doing a PRL update. I did that along with flashing decks rom and I have awesome wifi and 3G better than my Evo or epic
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I have done PRL updates and it didn't seem to make a difference. I know this is xda, but I don't think I should have to flash roms for the phone to work (although I really appreciate the devs and members here a ton).
Data speeds are better on the EVO 4G sitting next to my NS4G on every speedtest available including the Speakeasy website. When I go to the other room I can't hold a solid wifi signal and the EVO works great even on another floor. I know the EVO GB update has a couple of bugs, but I feel that they will be taken care of quickly by HTC and Sprint.
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why should i go away? i never said i didn't like it. im not like some of you that stick to a defective device. if you think i was the only one complaining i suggest you do a google search. best buy told me flat out they have had a ton of nexus returns lately. what does that tell you?
you sure don't see me going round telling you guys to return it. so enjoy and stop trying 'failing" to flame!
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I'm not flaming or trolling fix. I do have an honest question that isn't meant to try and piss you off. Since your not liking this phone and deciding to return it, how come you still hang around in this section and contribute to discussions? I could guess why all day but I thought I'd just ask. Like I said, i'm not trying to start anything with you, I was just wondering.
About the topic now. At first, I was very leery of getting burned again by samsung. I read the reviews and played with one briefly at bb and wasn't impressed. I was, when I bought it, I was experiencing my usual impulsive buying itch. I tried 4g the same day and was very disappointed with the results.
Through time, it started to grow on me. I liked the unbranded and lack of bloat and spyware and vanilla ui experience. I thought lacking a notification led would suck big time until I ran across noled. The speaker is a little quiet but a little boost from voodoo sound and volume+ helped. Yeah the radios are kinda deaf but in waiting for maybe a patch for that some time soon. I thought that having a limited video camera resolution would suck until I used it and saw it wasn't low framerate blurry vision like all my other phones. People said it takes forever to charge. Imo, nothing was as slow to charge than the epic. Charging isn't really slow either.
Most of the reported negatives, before I bought it, I have found solutions or work arounds. There's a few things that need to be taken care of with future patches, but it's nice to have the latest and most up to date and pretty stable os around. For the first time, i'm not anxiously waiting for the new evo. Mainly because I don't like sense and I'm spoiled with getting the updates before the other phones.