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[Q] WP7, AND-SD, magldr 1.12 sd boot fail

I've followed the dual boot tut and wp7 is working fine, I marked the wp7 partition as primary. I used services to point to android build dir, Im using Copes build which i read works with magldr without any modification. My issue is that when I choose to boot ad sd from magldr i get to GO GO GO! and it just sits there... I let it go for 30 mins.
I thought maybe i needed to add a data.img to it so i dl'd a 1gb data.img and placed it in the android root... still no luck.
inside copes build was a folder that said magldr with instructions to swap out the startup and the rootfs.img.... no go still stuck at GO GO GO!
WTH am i doing wrong? Any help would be greatly appreciated... wp7 boots fine off the nand, just cant get into droid....
EDIT:recopied copes droid/cynogen build back to sd left the 1gb data.img which was fresh on there and got past the GO GO GO! but now im stuck at the HTC logo for 30 mins and no signs of life...
oh and i reverted from 2.15 to 2.12 radio because of reported longer battery life, as far as ive read this is compatible with copes build. Any ideas why im stuck at the htc splash?

Bump!
I got passed the htc logo and I get passed cm7 splash but the phone freezes at the setup wizard... sometimes I get passed being asked to complete action using com.android.provision or Setup wizard, but it will quickly freeze. touchscreen is non responsive and i have to pull the battery.
Ive reformatted several times and recopied the build no luck do you think if i change the data.img from 1gb to a lower size it will not freeze? has anyone had this issue before?

I tried to do the same thing you did and I gave up. I was using Darkstone's super ram build and WP7 works perfectly on NAND but it will no boot android. Sorry I can be no help. Just to let you know that Super ram froyo is having the same issues if you chose to do another build.

i finally got the gingerbread/cm7 from cope working! I had to swap out the startup txt and the root file from the the magldr folder. the first time i tried this it didnt work because I believe there was a corrupted file from copying the droid build to the sd using magldr's 4. Usb mass storage option.
I Got gingerbread/cm7 working and installed but I cannot use the marketlace to dl apps I get a message saying your application will be downloaded... or something of that nature. When I go to my apps and try to manually install them they kick to the top and never start. They quickly drop back down to the list of apps with an uninstalled status.
I have the apn setup and im connected to wifi. Im once again at a loss....
there is a thread on here that will tell you how to mount your img and edit a string to allow darkstone to work! search in android developement for booting android with magldr...

[Q] Can i have WM 6.5 and boot android from SD as dual-boot?

I've been playing around a bit with my HD2, installed ubuntu v0.3 and android (both using haret. the problem is that booting android using haret is really slow... the logical solution would be to put it on my nand. if i would do this, would i lose WM? I really want to keep WM cause you need to boot ubuntu via haret.
Does anyone know a trick/solution?? all help appreciated. Thanx

Hi,
Sorry to say ,you cannot have all three.
Either WM + SD android boot(as you say ,slow),or Android on NAND (fast).
If you choose to go the way of the NAND...I suggest lots of reading,starting with the guide in my sig number 2.
Good luck .

t.roos8500 said:
I've been playing around a bit with my HD2, installed ubuntu v0.3 and android (both using haret. the problem is that booting android using haret is really slow... the logical solution would be to put it on my nand. if i would do this, would i lose WM? I really want to keep WM cause you need to boot ubuntu via haret.
Does anyone know a trick/solution?? all help appreciated. Thanx
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If you put Android on your NAND, yes, you would lose WM.
You can keep your WM and boot into Ubuntu/Android via Haret.
There are some apps/tools that helps you automate the dual-booting.

Like the two other posters before me said, if you want Windows Mobile, then you will need to keep your SD build. Once you go NAND, you will lose Windows Mobile. My experiences as well with SD builds is that they are much slower to load than NAND. Anywhere from an additional 1.5-3 minutes longer than NAND. The fastest loading NAND builds are the Gingerbread ones. They load for me in under 30 seconds. Non-Gingerbread NAND builds seems to load from 1.5-2 minutes. Search the forum for the dual boot up options to speed loading a bit quicker while helping to reduce battery drain. I am currently using a NAND build but when I was using an SD build, I made sure to have my dual boot up setting at 3 seconds to ensure a better battery life while quickening the boot up time.

Try taking a look at these dual-boot apps/tools:
Exceller Multiple Build Loader for Android/Ubuntu
Jmz Android Dual-Boot for HD2
Android/Ubuntu Loader for HD2

Android on NAND and also on SD?

Part of the beauty of having WP7 on NAND and Android on SD is that you can have as many Android ROMs as you can fit on your card and you can boot into any of them as you please. But say I want to install Android on NAND. Can I still be able to have that one Android ROM on NAND, but multiple other Android ROM's on SD?
Simple... If I want to be able to boot into more than one OS, must I have WP7 on NAND? If so, is there any guide for this? I cannot find one in the main sticky.

Good question, It would be good if you could switch and chang based on mood.

You can have Android on NAND and as many sd builds as you want, same as with WP7. Until my HD2 broke a few days ago, thats just what II did, a DHD build, a MIUI build, and a CM7 build on sd, with UD on NAND. Just have to choose your AD SD directory in magldr's 'services', and then boot AD SD.
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I do not think you can due to the fact that you have to run the HARET program. It only runs under Windows Mobile as Android does not run .EXE files.

Yes you definitely can. Check my sig
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how_weird said:
I do not think you can due to the fact that you have to run the HARET program. It only runs under Windows Mobile as Android does not run .EXE files.
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Well, I saw several builds in the NAND Android forum that specify they support MAGLDR. No need for haret. Here's some of them: LeoRCMix, JW MIUI, HardDroid2. So I didn't think that was a limitation.
huggs said:
You can have Android on NAND and as many sd builds as you want, same as with WP7. Until my HD2 broke a few days ago, thats just what II did, a DHD build, a MIUI build, and a CM7 build on sd, with UD on NAND. Just have to choose your AD SD directory in magldr's 'services', and then boot AD SD.
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How do you partition your card for this setup? Is there a guide somewhere you can link here please? Or is it the same procedure you use to partition your card when you're running WP7 on NAND and Android on SD (which I've followed before)?

Any advise whether NAND build or SD build is better? In terms of performance I mean.

NAND builds will usually be faster.

As far as partitioning your card, with Android it's not necessary, you can do everything on a single Fat32 partition, unless you want to use A2SD then you'll want a single (primary) Fat32 and a single (primary) ext3 or ext4 partition for your apps/dalvik-cache. I recommend using DarkTremor's A2SD script with your NAND ROM, and if you use the DHD build in my sig, then it will automatically detect your ext3 and you'll automatically have the installed apps from your NAND on your sd build.
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sd android builds for magldr will work if you have another android in nand,but the kernel for sd build must not be a nand kernel.for example if you have a sense build in nand and you go to start from sd a build that has tytung r10 or rafpigna kernel the kernel will start but for some strange reason it will load the nand build and not the sd build.then if you go to settings you`ll see that the kernel is changed and you have error wifi because of different kernel modules.this at least happens to me,every time i tried to start a magldr sd build with another android in nand.at first times i thought that i was pushing wrong button on magldr

Great advise, guys. I'm going to play with this soon. Thank you!

[Q] sd install problems

Hello i try to run android from my sd card as i have done the last year but now it wont work anymore, The android i had before been messed up nothing worked but i saw that as a good thing, it make me to switch to a 16gb mem card and try a new build, i updated my phone from htc site to 3.0something and formatted the sd card transferd the android i wanna try,
Run CLRCAD then
HAret
and i get the black screen text rolling as before but then i get the HTC start screen white background and HTC in green and nothing more happen.
Have the latest update from HTC site messed it up?
i tryed to install this rom:
Finally this is the most stable SD Version Android Build [Desire HD Build] I call it MccM HD V6 the build is Base of stable Desire HD ROM 1.72 base.

trexoz said:
Hello i try to run android from my sd card as i have done the last year but now it wont work anymore, The android i had before been messed up nothing worked but i saw that as a good thing, it make me to switch to a 16gb mem card and try a new build, i updated my phone from htc site to 3.0something and formatted the sd card transferd the android i wanna try,
Run CLRCAD then
HAret
and i get the black screen text rolling as before but then i get the HTC start screen white background and HTC in green and nothing more happen.
Have the latest update from HTC site messed it up?
i tryed to install this rom:
Finally this is the most stable SD Version Android Build [Desire HD Build] I call it MccM HD V6 the build is Base of stable Desire HD ROM 1.72 base.
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I used Stock ROM 3.14 without any problems, but you could try flashing a custom WinMo ROM (or even NAND Android) cos this helped me once when I was trying to run a build which just wouldn't run.
Also you have to wait quite a while on first boot, leave it for around 20 minutes at least if it doesn't show signs of booting

Yepp got it working now.. i took another android version,
Tnx for your help anyway Nigeldg

[Q] Loading SD ROM via MAGDLR---Stuck at Logo Splash

Hello,
I installed a NAND Android (NexusHD2-ICS-4.0.4-CM9-HWA V2.6 (Kernel: tytung_HWA_r3.4) which I’m quite happy with but would like to try out some SD card ROMs.
Now I tried to start SD Android Builds (e.g.JaguarMIUI-V21 to run via MAGDLR v1.13 and MccM MixTheme V1.3 HTC) but no matter what I do it’s stuck at the Boot splash. I even notice that the data.img gets built. But no Android gets loaded. Just logo splash. I reformatted my SD card. Same result.
What are the considerations: Does only the Kernel of the SD Card ROM matter? If so which one is recommended? Does the resident NAND ROM matter? The version of MAGDLR? SD card format/partitioning?
I’ve seen others encounter this but it’s been hard finding a definitive conclusion. Most point to using the right Kernel for the SD ROM.
I have followed the instructions to copy rootfs + startup.txt to ROM folder as well as to ensure that the startup.txt shows the appropriate path (i.e. rel_path=Android).
Any advise would be appreciated.

Hi, just take the sd build as it is. Everything will be ready to go, kernal etc. Nand will not make any difference as you are rebooting from the card files.
Check the location of your files, you can rename main folder but change rel_path in the startup.txt
Otherwise, also in startup.txt, check the data_size, 512mb file could take 10mins or more to create
Sent from my HD2 using the power of Jelly Bean

Thanks gazzacbr. Note I didn't have this issue when I was on WM 6.5 and loaded SD ROMs via HaRET.exe. Now I'm on NAND Android and attempting to build and load same ROM from MAGDLR using Dev's instruction. I notice some report similar issue in individual ROM threads but I've not come across consistent root cause and resolution documented. Perhaps I'll try a newer SD ROM and see if experience is different from the previous SD ROMs I've attempted.

I am able to now get yugoports miuiv4.1 to boot via MAGDLR. Still not sure why I couldn't get the other MIUI SD ROMs to load. I have some old data.img files from those roms from my wm6.5 days. I'll extract data that I need by leveraging ext2explore app. gazzacbr, I saw you mention this app on an unrelated thread and so I thank you.