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HTC HD2 720p Video Recording

Hey people, i was wondering since HTC are going to update the HTC Desire with 720p recording in the future via an update. HTC HD2 has the same camera why cant we have an update????
and by the way dont start using because windows mobile 6.5 doesnt allow it blah blah blah......
ps just recieved an update read below....
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its hard the hardware its capable of doing it software might not be. Windows Mobile its old and a bit dusty. Im pretty sure theirs a way but HTC dont care the HD2 its like the last strong windows Mobile device standing. HTC are putting their effort to android and windows 7.

josemedina1983 said:
its hard the hardware its capable of doing it software might not be. Windows Mobile its old and a bit dusty. Im pretty sure theirs a way but HTC dont care the HD2 its like the last strong windows Mobile device standing. HTC are putting their effort to android and windows 7.
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It might be plausible to enable the HD recording in the future, but I know WinMo is incapable of supporting HD recording. You'll never know, maybe something miraculous will happen and this might work!
However, at least it's nice to get pics at higher resolutions than 5mp. There's a tweak here, if you didn't know.

its not hardware problem... but the winmo 6.5 dont support hd recording...
show me one win mo 6.5 device with HD recording...
its support only android or difrend os...
so maybe in the final android port can hd2record high definition...
but maybe not

ilijan said:
its not hardware problem... but the winmo 6.5 dont support hd recording...
show me one win mo 6.5 device with HD recording...
its support only android or difrend os...
so maybe in the final android port can hd2record high definition...
but maybe not
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Yeah, and I'm thinking Microsoft might work on fixing that in WP7 and completely ignore WM6.5.x.
Hopefully the devs get that to work. The TP2's Android port still doesn't have camera support and the port's been around since December.

Lets ask another question has anybody here been able to prove that our beloved HD2 supports 720p recording hardware-wise? And if yes its just a software/driver issue thats keeping us from recording at 720p?

guys if wm6.5 dont support 720p rec
ok how about 720x480 or WVGA like samsung omnia ii ?
something better than nothing

Euroman28 said:
Lets ask another question has anybody here been able to prove that our beloved HD2 supports 720p recording hardware-wise? And if yes its just a software/driver issue thats keeping us from recording at 720p?
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look at the nexus one

scrizz said:
look at the nexus one
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Can you confirm to use that the camera in the Nexus One and HD2 are identical?

im pretty sure its 720p recording will be possible in thw android port, but because WM6.5 is well old and sucky (or ancient if you dont like to call it sucky)... it wont be possible in it, but hopefully it will be possible in WP7... and i belive android devs said it will be possible in android but thats when its fully ported of course...

Euroman28 said:
Lets ask another question has anybody here been able to prove that our beloved HD2 supports 720p recording hardware-wise? And if yes its just a software/driver issue thats keeping us from recording at 720p?
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well, ive tried lol but not successful, camera shuts down everytime i try it, but i can record on WVGA(800x480) plus a bit smoother frame rate than normal HD2

See i'm kinda holding back from buying one of those mini HD camcorders because im certain someone can create a break through with the HD2's camera. saves me taking two devices everywhere just for the camera, when the HD2's camera seems more than capable.
I've not been on the forum long so can someone explain the process that could make this work? Im aware of the WM 6.5 limitations, has anybody got a solid port to android or WM7 yet...?

Dani01c said:
well, ive tried lol but not successful, camera shuts down everytime i try it, but i can record on WVGA(800x480) plus a bit smoother frame rate than normal HD2
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How are you recording in WVGA? I know the Android Camcorder app does but I have never heard of the WinMo recorder going beyond VGA

I don't see how the OS has anything to do with the resolution that the camera can capture at. The limitation is probably in the firmware (in the camera module), camera module driver, or the camera software. Could also be a hardware issue with whatever bus interface is between the camera module and the HD2, it could be a standard USB bus which would have the bandwidth for HD video, or it could be something proprietary with a low bitrate that wouldn't handle the bandwidth of a 720p/24/30 real time video stream. The bus could be a real issue, notice how some of the 1st camera phones that could do 720p were 720p/24. 720p/24 is a lower bitrate than the 720p/30 more common now
I do know that I have gotten my HD2 to capture WVGA video in one of the android builds. I never took the time to evaluate if it was capturing a true pixel per pixel WVGA image, or if it was really capturing a VGA image and then either zooming or stretching it to WVGA in software

chrisrj28 said:
How are you recording in WVGA? I know the Android Camcorder app does but I have never heard of the WinMo recorder going beyond VGA
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I'd like to know as well. I'm more interested in doing widescreen video recording natively. When I run android it does it. How can we do this on the WinMo side? It's not HD just widescreen...

juiceppc said:
I'd like to know as well. I'm more interested in doing widescreen video recording natively. When I run android it does it. How can we do this on the WinMo side? It's not HD just widescreen...
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Its quite possible that android is still recording VGA mode and then just cropping off the top and bottom, basically leaving you with 640x360 effective pixels.
We need someone that knows the android cam software that can tell us exactly what its doing, or someone to do a resolution test recording a pattern to measure the recorded resolution

well... actually You are wrong. some android builds ARE capable of recording 800 x 480 videos. what more, those are being recorded flawlessly, no frame drops or stuttering.
I believe that I have recorded those with mattc rom.

bronx said:
well... actually You are wrong. some android builds ARE capable of recording 800 x 480 videos. what more, those are being recorded flawlessly, no frame drops or stuttering.
I believe that I have recorded those with mattc rom.
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but is it really true 800x480 pixels or the 640x360 upscaled to fill out 800x480? only true way to test is to use a resolution pattern
http://www.camcorderinfo.com/content/How-We-Test-Camcorders-36180.htm
I am pretty sure that the HD2 has a 4:3 not a 16:9 sensor for the camera. this would explain why we loose resolution when the still camera is put into wide mode. it takes the 4:3 5mpixel image and chops the top and bottom off to make it "widescreen"

drownage said:
im pretty sure its 720p recording will be possible in thw android port, but because WM6.5 is well old and sucky (or ancient if you dont like to call it sucky)... it wont be possible in it, but hopefully it will be possible in WP7... and i belive android devs said it will be possible in android but thats when its fully ported of course...
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hey guys so after looking into this a little bit more i have found a few odd solutions but a resurfacing of one of the hd2's faults. i have been able to play high res .mp4 movies in the htc video player no problem. it was designed to fit the series of images best to the screen it is given(just to point out the obvious). now due to the fixed screen res on the device, the MOST your going to get out of any video that you watch is 480x800. the program is just running a data summary per pixel when dealing with a pixle count higher than 480. its the same (or similar) process as to when you you choose full screen or wide screen on the device to play movies. you are not getting true pixel to pixel data play back (unless you record with the phone camera at 480p or convert a movie to EXACTLY 480x whatever. which btw does not matter.) with that being said, the htc video play supports a vast amount of resolutions including 720p .mp4. (you guys have made a mountain out of an ant hill) yes i do understand different res vids also have various bit rate and playback qualities, but the best thing to do for that is download chainfires 3d drivers and manually clock your processor to 998Mhz. rendering becomes seamless at that point. so to end one vicious cycle, yes, you can play 720p videos on your hd2 just make sure its the propper file type. now back to the other issue... 720p RECORDING. absolutely the phone can handle it! its a matter of opening an additional camera function to the htc camera. easier said than done. the general idea is changing a value within either the firmware or through the registry for you input image pixle count. for ex:
blah 12031029 blah 2398x1098
blah 239840923
blah blah blah 90238942
bada bing pixel count per image 480x640 <= we need a way to edit this.
or in a reg directory
blah1/YOUR MOM/HTC CAMERA/CAMCORDER/INPUT VALUE/-_-X-_-
SO basically the sooner we can figure a way to change these values (i know its SUPER SIMPLIFIED) the closer we are to getting 720p recording on the hd2...... so yea ..... WHOS WITH ME!?! and if you have any ideas on how to please add to the brainstorming!

mmendez92 said:
hey guys so after looking into this a little bit more i have found a few odd solutions but a resurfacing of one of the hd2's faults. i have been able to play high res .mp4 movies in the htc video player no problem. it was designed to fit the series of images best to the screen it is given(just to point out the obvious). now due to the fixed screen res on the device, the MOST your going to get out of any video that you watch is 480x800. the program is just running a data summary per pixel when dealing with a pixle count higher than 480. its the same (or similar) process as to when you you choose full screen or wide screen on the device to play movies. you are not getting true pixel to pixel data play back (unless you record with the phone camera at 480p or convert a movie to EXACTLY 480x whatever. which btw does not matter.) with that being said, the htc video play supports a vast amount of resolutions including 720p .mp4. (you guys have made a mountain out of an ant hill) yes i do understand different res vids also have various bit rate and playback qualities, but the best thing to do for that is download chainfires 3d drivers and manually clock your processor to 998Mhz. rendering becomes seamless at that point. so to end one vicious cycle, yes, you can play 720p videos on your hd2 just make sure its the propper file type. now back to the other issue... 720p RECORDING. absolutely the phone can handle it! its a matter of opening an additional camera function to the htc camera. easier said than done. the general idea is changing a value within either the firmware or through the registry for you input image pixle count. for ex:
blah 12031029 blah 2398x1098
blah 239840923
blah blah blah 90238942
bada bing pixel count per image 480x640 <= we need a way to edit this.
or in a reg directory
blah1/YOUR MOM/HTC CAMERA/CAMCORDER/INPUT VALUE/-_-X-_-
SO basically the sooner we can figure a way to change these values (i know its SUPER SIMPLIFIED) the closer we are to getting 720p recording on the hd2...... so yea ..... WHOS WITH ME!?! and if you have any ideas on how to please add to the brainstorming!
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i'm wit u 100%

HD2 plays 720p Video in Android!

Well? Try it out! The new Desire HD builds can do it, but I don't know if the older "normal" Android builds can or not.
Just fire up a CUDA baseline 1280x720 with minimum settings -- if it plays smoothly with a stock player ("system mode"), congrats, your HD2 now does HD, too. (Hah, see what I did there? )
Report your findings! I don't have enough free space on my computer or card to try it myself. Plus, this greatly benefits y'all. Maybe.

old old OLD news

I would be more exited if it could record in 720p but i think thats not gonna happen

Cool gonna try it soon

souljaboy said:
old old OLD news
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Really? Are you saying standard Desire (NOT HD) ROMS could play HD with hardware players? Can anyone confirm?

zat0x said:
I would be more exited if it could record in 720p but i think thats not gonna happen
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It does in the latest HD builds, but the video comes out screwy. It DOES show that with the right software, the HD2 is perfectly capable of capturing and encoding 720p in realtime, but actually getting the software and drivers to interface properly is another story...

I never understand questions regarding playing 720p on HD2.
Recording, yep I understand.
As far as I know HD2 has only a 480x800 screen.... doesn't look HD for me.
So playing HD, Full HD... on an SD screen. Really I don't understand the advantage. For me it's same as plugging a Blu-ray on a 20 years old TV (ok... I go out ).

the advantage here is, that you don't have to transcode any downloaded movie (up to 720p) to the lower res - just to take it with you on your hd2 for the trip. also, you don't have to download separately movies for home and mobile entertainment. so, the feature basically save your time, storage and bandwidth. and if the USB-host on HD2 project goes right (it's in the beta phase), you could connect the USB2HDMI type adapter to play the vid on the big screen wherever you go with your HD2.

ok understand now

do any builds have 720p recording and if so which ones?

xrossblades said:
do any builds have 720p recording and if so which ones?
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No, none of the builds support it atm.
Sent from my HTC HD2

720p recording?

Please can someone tell me what is the best android nand with 720p recording and playback?
Thanks in advance

Actually 720p recording is quite a problem with the android roms on the HD2, actually I don't recall seeing any rom that got it properly working

so is there no rom available for the HD2 which can do 720p recording?

mimicuk said:
so is there no rom available for the HD2 which can do 720p recording?
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No, if you would have searched, you would have found that answer on your own.

Still no 720p??

Is there anybody addressing this, because in my opinion this is the last hurdal for a complete ROM. Is there anybody Devs, DFT or just members working or willing to work on 720p recording for our HD2's.
As i see it now its way over due

Be patient, i believe that someday we will have 720p recording in Android

I believe we all are very grateful to the devs that made Android on hd2 possible. But by the time will get 720p on hd2, there will be 1080p recording standard on any phone thats the feeling I'm getting about time when to expect that feature.
I simply boot to wp7 to use 720p rec if I need it strongly. Or to capture some beautiful moments
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if you want 720p then go to WP7.to get 720p with android on this phone is far from easy,im sure somebody is working on it,just be patiant,these guys work for free in there spare time to give you android on a phone that was only originaly designed for windows mobile.The time will come

personally im not worried about lack of 720 support, id rather be able to record in a different format to 3gp such as mp4 like in winmo

I doubt this will happen now to be honest, just not a priority for anyone.

That day is comming

[30.JUN]720p Recording on HD2 WORKING! [PROOF]

found this video on youtube:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mf5v...r5nuK3Z0B_fSvp7IAvvkwGs3Hl91Ypg&feature=inbox
We all know that 720p recording is working on this sd build:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1038694
But I asked in the questions, and the person that uploaded the video said that it was a 2.2 froyo build.
the question is, is that a sd build, or a nand build?
The max resolution is 480p on Youtube. The vid is fake ?
edit [30.JUN] New video uploaded, showing 720p settings in camcorder app
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xursSwDRUyo&feature=channel_video_title

Why do I only see a 480p max in the resolution selection?

yz.hd said:
found this video on youtube:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mf5v...r5nuK3Z0B_fSvp7IAvvkwGs3Hl91Ypg&feature=inbox
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Go back to the video, you cannot change to 720p hd quality, i.e. the video is NOT HD.

Nigeldg said:
Go back to the video, you cannot change to 720p hd quality, i.e. the video is NOT HD.
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indeed, but the quality looks a bit better that normal android recording.. Have no idea.

WP7 is the single software on hd2 which records 720p so it seems to be wp7

popab said:
WP7 is the single software on hd2 which records 720p so it seems to be wp7
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check the sd build link in my thread. It's working on android too

many people suffer from retardation...no reason you should mimick them..

beston94 said:
many people suffer from retardation...no reason you should mimick them..
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you are one of them I guess ?

yz.hd said:
you are one of them I guess ?
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Sorry you guessed wrong because i'm simply not the one who thought the video was 720p...I mean come on this is simple stuff..

beston94 said:
Sorry you guessed wrong because i'm simply not the one who thought the video was 720p...I mean come on this is simple stuff..
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go wash your eyes
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xursSwDRUyo&feature=channel_video_title

I don't really understand you guys.. I've tried recently that Gingerbread ROM that claims to record 720p (just an older version), you could easily select 720p record mode, and the preview was ok, and even it would record, but the output was awfull, it was definitelly less than 720p, and 1-3FPS!!! Now i've been trying to watch an eye on that thread, people are claiming that it sort of records in 720p but with 1fps only, which, of course, sucks hard. (but it might be a progress somehow)
Secondly, the first video from this post is 16:9 and it looks good, though it's for sure not an HD video (and never was). The tricks is that you just need to install MIUI (or at least MIUI camera) and you're gonna get the best camcorder yet available for Android (imho), which also records 800x480 in very good quality (though sound quality is quite bad), and makes stills in 16:9 aspect.
Thirdly, it's definitely not a WP7 video, as i'm using WP7 in dual boot with Android for some time now, and WP7 is even my main OS on the phone, the video quality is great, it's sharp, (once in a while skips some frames, but definitely better than others), but has a bad hue, it's violet-greenish, as can be seen on youtube if you'll search HD2 720p recording...
And these are my fifty cents to the topic.. And as a wrap-up i can easily claim that i still don't believe in miracles, untill i'll get clear proofs or i'll just try it by myself..

yz.hd said:
go wash your eyes
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xursSwDRUyo&feature=channel_video_title
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you just put up the link to the other one....if you would show me the right one from the beggining then iw ould have no problem.....

beston94 said:
you just put up the link to the other one....if you would show me the right one from the beggining then iw ould have no problem.....
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That video was uploaded after you made that newbish comment.

yz.hd said:
That video was uploaded after you made that newbish comment.
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Have you even read nickriley's post? That video proves nothing. 720p recording is useless at an FPS of 1-3, and so is a topic once more showing it is doing just that, which has been known for days already.