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Samsung not charging carriers.

http://www.phonescoop.com/news/item.php?n=7346
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Yay! .......

That's funny that they point that out. Did anyone receive the free update that Samsung Doesn't Charge Carriers?
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OuncE718 said:
That's funny that they point that out. Did anyone receive the free update that Samsung Doesn't Charge Carriers?
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Let's look. Hmmm. Nope.

The only way they might be able to make it up to most of us is by going straight to Gingerbread or by offering every Vibrant 3g owner a more than 1/2 percent discount on the new Vibrant 4g with the return of the current Vibrant 3g.
My biggest issue with Samsung is the lack of being straight forward/direct with us. Every question they've been asked about the update or rumors about our Vibrant being able to utilize 4g speeds Samsung won't even say yes or even deny it. It definitely makes me wonder. Its sad cause they definitely make great hardware (minus the gps issue). They probably hesitant on releasing Froyo 2.2 because the release of Froyo will prove that the gps issue is hardware based.
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So what is holding the update sammyy?
Btw samsung don't make promises it will look bad if you don't keep ur promises you know...like the promise you made months ago? About froyo update? I guess soon means 6months to you, sammy.
Trolls, if your gonna reply to this msgs saying stfu, stop whinning w/e go ahead, im not coming back to this thread
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thunderbolt...

I tried the Thunderbolt for 2 weeks and returned it and this is why... its about twice as thick and ALOT heavier than the fascinate. Battery wouldn't last all day when I barely used it while my fascinate would easily last 2 days with little use or a full day of heavy use. The screen on the fascinate looks a lot better than the thunderbolt. Another thing I noticed was that the thunderbolt was always a lot hotter then my fascinate even when it was at its regular clock speed and was regularly at 110 degrees Fahrenheit or higher. So if anybody is thinking about getting the thunderbolt I hope I saved you the $35 restocking fee.

Nice to hear that the grass isn't always greener!
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You just saved me 500 bucks.
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Kernels will help with the battery life, and I've used it and I don't mind the heaviness at all. The main reasons why I'm not bothering to upgrade to it is because the screen isn't as nice, and the GPU doesn't seem as good as the Fascinate's. To expand on that GPU point, I used Neocore on my sister's Thunderbolt and my Fascinate at the same time, and my Fascinate performed smoother and quicker, however the final FPS score was apparently better on the Thunderbolt's, which I found strange. However visuals don't lie, while benchmarks sometimes do (especially quadrants).
Overall, I'd just wait for a decent dual-core phone on Verizon, rather than upgrading to the Thunderbolt. Galaxy S II anyone?

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Galaxy S II anyone?
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I'm definitely hoping the GSII will come to Verizon. The Exynos processor, the screen, the thinness and weight, and the extra codecs are pure awesomeness.
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Tkun said:
Overall, I'd just wait for a decent dual-core phone on Verizon, rather than upgrading to the Thunderbolt. Galaxy S II anyone?
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Hopefully they will update the Galaxy S II a little more often then they have been doing with the fascinate but I think Samsung's hardware makes up for everything

Im probly still goin to get one I would like more oppinions tho some ppl love it and some hate it xD I won't know till I try it my self
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I havent had 2 weeks worth of trial with it, but my Daughter just got one. As with every phone, it has it's ups and downs. I agree with most of the OP, but it has some positives. The front camera for one, the 4G for another.
It is like heaving around a brick though in size and weight compared to the Fascinate.
I am not switching to anything anytime soon, but I would still wait awhile to see what the community does with the customizations before i would choose anything...

ha I don't care even if Galaxy 2 has 2ghz triple core, I wouldn't buy Samsung phone again. I'd rather have faster update than better hardware.

deaffob said:
ha I don't care even if Galaxy 2 has 2ghz triple core, I wouldn't buy Samsung phone again. I'd rather have faster update than better hardware.
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You obviously don't root your phones cause if you did then you would know that hardware is everything...?
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Jrex said:
You obviously don't root your phones cause if you did then you would know that hardware is everything...?
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hardware isn't everything... source is everything.

Jrex said:
You obviously don't root your phones cause if you did then you would know that hardware is everything...?
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I rooted mine.. hardware is nothing with crap software and no support from the manufacturer whatsoever.

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You obviously don't root your phones cause if you did then you would know that hardware is everything...?
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LoL person with no knowledge of android development.

deaffob said:
LoL person with no knowledge of android development.
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Omg, are you for real? It wasn't even a serious comment lmao! Go trade your fascinate for an HTC if software is all you want. Here is one for ya! "lighten up, and live a little?" Yeah? Maybe? HaHa...
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I just never saw the draw of the thunderbolt. Most of the country doesn't have 4g and its still single core.
OTB'd CM6 FTW

bigtlt said:
I just never saw the draw of the thunderbolt. Most of the country doesn't have 4g and its still single core.
OTB'd CM6 FTW
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I was actually messing with a TB yesterday and I think it is pretty cool but not cool e'nuff. There are to many big dawgz coming out soon, and like you said 4g is probably 2 years from my area...!

Jrex said:
Omg, are you for real? It wasn't even a serious comment lmao! Go trade your fascinate for an HTC if software is all you want. Here is one for ya! "lighten up, and live a little?" Yeah? Maybe? HaHa...
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Actually you were serious but you realized you were being stupid so you are trying to cover yourself up. I would trade it I can fyi.
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Tkun said:
Kernels will help with the battery life, and I've used it and I don't mind the heaviness at all. The main reasons why I'm not bothering to upgrade to it is because the screen isn't as nice, and the GPU doesn't seem as good as the Fascinate's. To expand on that GPU point, I used Neocore on my sister's Thunderbolt and my Fascinate at the same time, and my Fascinate performed smoother and quicker, however the final FPS score was apparently better on the Thunderbolt's, which I found strange. However visuals don't lie, while benchmarks sometimes do (especially quadrants).
Overall, I'd just wait for a decent dual-core phone on Verizon, rather than upgrading to the Thunderbolt. Galaxy S II anyone?
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That might be because the fascinate is framerate limited to ~60 fps, it won't go above 60, even if the GPU could run it faster

Battery life for me has been similar to my fascinate and it was worth switching just to be able to use data while I'm using the phone. My area won't have LTE for another year but I use a lot of data and getting an unlimited plan while verizon still offers them seemed prudent.
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TheSonicEmerald said:
I'm definitely hoping the GSII will come to Verizon. The Exynos processor, the screen, the thinness and weight, and the extra codecs are pure awesomeness.
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and the lack up support is what I'm dying for. J/K, but really I would never buy another samsung, anything!

Your thoughts on Gingerbread release for the Samsung Vibrant.

Hello,
Just wanted your thoughts on the Official Gingerbread for Vibrant.
Do you think it will ever come?
Do you even care?
Any feedback is appreciated .

Cm7 is gingerbread so its already out lol
Need help with cm7? Pm me I can try to help

I don't think about it because I don't care. Gingerbread for the Vibrant 3G is the last thing on Samsungs list.

i have cm7 so i could care less! i will be getting the hercules in a few months anyway

The Gingerbread ROMS are already pretty smooth and nice so I no longer care about the stock one which they seem that don't even WANT to update.
Whatev's when I get the chance I will be buying the SGSII.
...When it doesn't cost a lung for me lol

It's not going to happen.
And neither will me buying another Samsung mobile device, ever.

Ditto.
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Probably not coming since the Galaxy S 4G is essentially the successor to the original Vibrant. It would be a terrible sales decision for T-Mobile to support the older model, especially when the two are almost identical except for 4G, an FFC, and the lack of internal storage on the 4G.

I hate u guys.
I guess my best bet is to hunt craigslist for a nexus s.
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Really?
No CM7 is the same experience you will get with a Nexus S.
Buy a dual core phone or
Wait for next year.
Quad Cores aren't supposed to be ready until Q3 2012 or early 2013.
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I wouldn't mind waiting, I've played around with the 4g vibrant, and I like the 3g model better. The ffc is no big deal with me.
But I have a gut feeling that it will be early next year before we get a 2.3 from tmobile.
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raduque said:
It's not going to happen.
And neither will me buying another Samsung mobile device, ever.
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Prolly the same thing you said about froyo. No faith
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I cant afford a new dual core and my plan isnt up til dec of next year. Nexus seems the way to go unless u guys wanna buy me a hercules
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Alanrocks15 said:
Really?
No CM7 is the same experience you will get with a Nexus S.
Buy a dual core phone or
Wait for next year.
Quad Cores aren't supposed to be ready until Q3 2012 or early 2013.
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Sorry, but current dual cores devices are useless and equally as fast as the Nexus S since ICS is yet to be released to optimize Android for multicore devices. You may as well get the one phone guaranteed to get ICS which will increase the Nexus's speed as well. The G2X looks like its not getting ICS and the Sensation would be bogged down by Sense again. Galaxy S2, maybe.

No offense because the 2.3 Roms out right now are smooth. But they straight murder the battery life. Why have a mobile device if you a charge every 8 hours.
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ZachLL88 said:
Prolly the same thing you said about froyo. No faith
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No, I held out hope because Samsung promised and promised and promised, and there was a BIG media hullabaloo about the lack of timeliness on the 2.2 update.
Samsung has had exactly ONE press release saying they're putting 2.3 on "all" Galaxy S phones and nobody in the media is talking about a lack of update. Basically, it's as if no-one cares, Samsung included. Only a few people on forums are making any fuss about it, and everybody knows forums in general fly fairly low under the radar.
I still say we're not going to see it, and even if Samsung delivers it before the end of the year, it's far too little far too late. I have no desire to reward their failures and apathy with more purchases.
edit: Oh, and you can thank the ****ing SGS 4G for the lack of an update. IT'S getting 2.3 leaks left and ****ing right, and the rumor is from devs in the know that there isn't even 2.3 source code in existence for the Vibrant.

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Sorry, but current dual cores devices are useless and equally as fast as the Nexus S since ICS is yet to be released to optimize Android for multicore devices. You may as well get the one phone guaranteed to get ICS which will increase the Nexus's speed as well. The G2X looks like its not getting ICS and the Sensation would be bogged down by Sense again. Galaxy S2, maybe.
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You are right the good thing about dual cores is one core is incharge of one process and other core incharge of another process. This would probably be best for me as I am constantly studying in school, and switch between apps really fast and single core just cant take from browser to xxxx app to xxxx app and back to browser without it getting stuck!?
If you got like 15 apps and just use it for ROMS and GPS and shiny fast things then by all means stick with the Galaxy S.

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Prolly the same thing you said about froyo. No faith
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Yep just ask the behold 2 users oh wait they never did get their update never mind.

raduque said:
It's not going to happen.
And neither will me buying another Samsung mobile device, ever.
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This........

Galaxy S2 will go no longer than Ice Cream Sandwich.
Galaxy S3 will only go like 2 updates
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Samsung Stratusphere closest Galaxy S variant to the Epic...maybe

So as my old thread kinda pointed out before, the Samsung slider Verizon was getting was awfully similar to our Epics in appearance. And guess what? it is real and it's being released soon. So what I found to be interesting about it is that it runs on the exact same hardware as the Epic! Well, that is, excluding the processor -__- while we have a single core 1ghz processor, the Verizon slider will sport a dualcore 1.2ghz processor. The real reason behind this post is this: this to me sounds like the closest sibling our Epic has in the Galaxy S family thus far, so with the processors being the only real difference, will we be able to port anything from it over to the Epic and/or will their source help us in any way to further advance development on our Epics? Hmmm...
http://www.mydaily-gadget.com/news/...g-stratosphere-fcc-release-date-verizon-specs
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Well, that one would hurt. So, they have a stable, problem free Cingerbread on that phone already? EDIT..it doesn't say that's going to be dual core for certain. They are comparing the stats of the Galaxy S2
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JohnCorleone said:
Well, that one would hurt. So, they have a stable, problem free Cingerbread on that phone already? EDIT..it doesn't say that's going to be dual core for certain. They are comparing the stats of the Galaxy S2
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So there still might be some hope for us afterall. The mandatory 18 month support deal google is enforcing now means that this Verizon slider will hopefully get up to ICS, and if we can hopefully find something useful from it ( like port some of its ROMs, kernels, use some of its source) then we might have a shot at extending the Epics "life" right? I'm being hopeful because as bad as I want to jump ship to a new device, I'm not ready to give up my physical keyboard just yet.
EDIT: ok, just reread it JC and your right. As of now, all the hardware specs coincide with our Epics, the processor it will be porting is yet to be announced. It does say it'll be a "budget phone" in another article I read, so considering high end devices at the moment are sporting dual core processor 1.2ghz and up, I'm willing to be it will also be a 1ghz single core like ours
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JohnCorleone said:
Well, that one would hurt. So, they have a stable, problem free Cingerbread on that phone already? EDIT..it doesn't say that's going to be dual core for certain. They are comparing the stats of the Galaxy S2
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Unfortunately I wouldn't doubt it. The Galaxy S line(Not 2) was handled horribly. We should have been like Samsungs personal nexus line with support and updates, but not a single phone got that. Which isn't bad in all truth. But it could have went better with ICS coming soon.
Also aren't we still within 18 months? It's been a year but not too much over it.
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Yeah especially if we were basically Samsung's testers for Gingerbread on another similar device. I don't know enough about development to know if ROMs could be easily ported from it
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Everything I saw about the stratosphere showed it to be exactly like the epic, just for VZW. Been waiting for it as my girlfriend has VZW and her renewal is this month. And the leaked pics I've seen of it show 2.3.4, so maybe if we're lucky we'll see the source for that and can put something together from it if we don't see official GB released by then..
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AproSamurai said:
Unfortunately I wouldn't doubt it. The Galaxy S line(Not 2) was handled horribly. We should have been like Samsungs personal nexus line with support and updates, but not a single phone got that. Which isn't bad in all truth. But it could have went better with ICS coming soon.
Also aren't we still within 18 months? It's been a year but not too much over it.
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The 18 month support policy wasn't being enforced until just recently so our Epic's, I'm guessing, won't get further than GB (officially speaking of course) Korey also stated that GB would be the final "dying breath" of the Epic support wise. So this could be our final chance at a big helping hand in development...
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Highly doubt this will be relevant at all. Thinking there will be similarities in driver code is akin to thinking there was going to be similarities in our epics and other galaxy s's. And we all know how well that turned out.
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Highly doubt this will be relevant at all. Thinking there will be similarities in driver code is akin to thinking there was going to be similarities in our epics and other galaxy s's. And we all know how well that turned out.
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Well what this handset has that the rest of the other handsets dnt is the hardware keyboard which I heard was a problem devs had a rough time with considering the other galaxy s counter parts had no hardware keyboard. Also, the rest of the hardware matches perfectly, all we need is the processor to be announced. I'm thinking this handset will help us out a bit somehow, but then again, I'm no dev, so take my "hopefulness" with a grain of salt
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QUOTE=squshy 7;17522647]Highly doubt this will be relevant at all. Thinking there will be similarities in driver code is akin to thinking there was going to be similarities in our epics and other galaxy s's. And we all know how well that turned out.
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Try not to get too excited, the article that the op posted mentioned that that this phone may be Verizons gsII contender. The only thing that may be similar is the cameras. Then again that's what we said about the nexus s...
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ThrIsNoSpork said:
QUOTE=squshy 7;17522647]Highly doubt this will be relevant at all. Thinking there will be similarities in driver code is akin to thinking there was going to be similarities in our epics and other galaxy s's. And we all know how well that turned out.
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Try not to get too excited, the article that the op posted mentioned that that this phone may be Verizons gsII contender. The only thing that may be similar is the cameras. Then again that's what we said about the nexus s...
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Accidently thanked you...
The camera will be different(1.3megapixel ffc) we have a .3megapixel
The keyboard however will be the same, 4 android butttons 4 capacitive android buttons 4" screen, the 5megapixel cam the same.
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I think it will be similar. Verizon rehashed the Evo a little less than a year later. Verizon only has 1 dual core 4G phone. Finally, Verizon said they weren't getting a GSII variant and if this was dualcore, it would probably be considered a GSII variant just like the epic is.

Well they also have a better screen because they have a super amoled plus instead of a super amoled so they don't have to deal with weird subpixels.

Epic 4G, is that you?
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Well I guess best we can do at this point Is hope we can pull some dev off this device. But hey. hope is better then nothing.
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corythug said:
Well I guess best we can do at this point Is hope we can pull some dev off this device. But hey. hope is better then nothing.
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Yeah, that would work as well. In any case, even if their source or porting any of their stuff doesn't help us, their device community would still be of great value to us.
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Samsung releases LTE Epic on VZW, Gingerbread preloaded

...and yet they still haven't managed to release Gingerbread for the original Epic.
http://gizmodo.com/5848849/samsung-stratosphere-hands-on-for-keyboard+loving-internet+hounds
Well done, Samsuck.

k0nane said:
...and yet they still haven't managed to release Gingerbread for the original Epic.
http://gizmodo.com/5848849/samsung-stratosphere-hands-on-for-keyboard+loving-internet+hounds
Well done, Samsuck.
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What's your thought on the Stratosphere's source being usable on the Epic?
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ac16313 said:
What's your thought on the Stratosphere's source being usable on the Epic?
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It's no more relevant than any other device's source, by and large, to us.

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It's no more relevant than any other device's source, by and large, to us.
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Okay cool, I can wait patiently for our official now lol.
Samsungs got it all wrong, throwing equivalents of our phone with gingerbread preloaded? Fail.
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Samsungs got it all wrong, throwing equivalents of our phone with gingerbread preloaded? Fail.
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My thoughts exactly.

k0nane said:
My thoughts exactly.
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If more people who had this phone knew about android versions and what not, I'm sure samsung would have been getting complaints right about now.
Luckily, for Samsung though, most users are teens who text a lot(me included) Oh well, maybe they'll learn some day.
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ac16313 said:
If more people who had this phone knew about android versions and what not, I'm sure samsung would have been getting complaints right about now.
Luckily, for Samsung though, most users are teens who text a lot(me included) Oh well, maybe they'll learn some day.
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That's right. I would venture 90+% of people have NO CLUE what Gingerbread is, nor what version of Android they're currently running. They see an update come through, install it, and go about their business. A select few of them may notice something different with the looks, but that's about it. They may notice something looks different, but only because one of their apps (I'm thinking Eclair vs. Froyo messaging) looks a bit different. If that's the case, they probably assume the update was just for that app...

If Samsung is throwing around Gingerbread all over the Epic (as well as most of the US galaxy s series) have not gotten, maybe it is the carriers holding everything up. All of the updated GBs have been through Kies and for some reasn Sprint don't want the Epic on Kies.
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I can't wait to upgrade to a different phone, I've always been a fan of hardware keyboards but I don't think ill be going that route for my next upgrade, either going iphone 4gs route or nexus prime type phone, btw I've never owned/purchased an apple product
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Bizz08 said:
I can't wait to upgrade to a different phone, I've always been a fan of hardware keyboards but I don't think ill be going that route for my next upgrade, either going iphone 4gs route or nexus prime type phone, btw I've never owned/purchased an apple product
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According to the release specs the iphone 4S has no WiMax or LTE support. So 4G only works on ATT with their crappy 4G.
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I don't think Samsung and Sprint are trying anymore.

I told my friend there was a gingerbread leak...he said to turn the oven off and use a bigger container next time
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this is the spot sprint shouldve tried to sell the epic at last year. a decently priced midtier phone. **** i regret buying this.

austin420 said:
this is the spot sprint shouldve tried to sell the epic at last year. a decently priced midtier phone. **** i regret buying this.
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hahah patience is the key to success

austin420 said:
this is the spot sprint shouldve tried to sell the epic at last year. a decently priced midtier phone. **** i regret buying this.
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...Huh? At this time last year the Epic was one of the beefiest high-end phones you could buy.

Ill admit,I'm trying everything I can think of to step away from this like I did with the Moment (only because I hard bricked 2). Now the funds arnt there, but I'm so tempted to sell sperm and blood

Thanks, sam****!
I really hope another company releases a good hardware keyboard phone by the time I'm ready to upgrade.

I wonder if the 1800 mAh battery will fit in our phone.

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I wonder if the 1800 mAh battery will fit in our phone.
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I think the Epic touch's does

At this point i'm stuck with my epic for another year min. While i'm fine with that it would really easy to live with if I had an official release. at this point I wish they would just release what they have good or bad and our awesome developers here will fix it. Heck what ever they release wouldn't be as good as what our developers do anyway. So close enough I say, release EH17 source and get out of our way!!!!
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