im sure this is probably a stupid question, but should i just use my 3G at all times? i downloaded wifisync so it automatically connects to a wifi when in range, but which is faster? I also have a high speed internet connection at home which is 54mbps, so if i connect to that wifi... will it be faster than the regular 3G service?
rschuman90 said:
im sure this is probably a stupid question, but should i just use my 3G at all times? i downloaded wifisync so it automatically connects to a wifi when in range, but which is faster? I also have a high speed internet connection at home which is 54mbps, so if i connect to that wifi... will it be faster than the regular 3G service?
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Yes, your wifi will be faster than the 3G. It's really your preference.
oh ic... but since i have wifisync running, whenever i dont have a wifi it will be disabled so then ill have my 3G running....correct?
correct
The G1 can determine if you have Wifi/G3/E/G in your area and switches between the fastest possible method. For wich it has access parameters
3G is usually a bigger drain on your battery, since your phone's signal has to go farther than it would for Wifi. Wifi is extremely localized compared to 3G, and takes less effort for the phone to connect and communicate with wifi.
jordanjay29 said:
3G is usually a bigger drain on your battery, since your phone's signal has to go farther than it would for Wifi. Wifi is extremely localized compared to 3G, and takes less effort for the phone to connect and communicate with wifi.
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I've always found the opposite to be true. Wifi always kills my battery way faster than 3G.
wi-fi kills my battery more than 3g if the wi-fi is on and not connected (scanning for network), but if the wi-fi IS connected it seems to drain slower than the 3g
I saw that when I switch my apn on. What does h stand for?
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I saw that when I switch my apn on. What does h stand for?
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HSPDA I think
Bascially when my phone download it displays a H and when it's not it displays 3G
Yes, it's HSDPA. It's faster than 3G, so it's good if you see that, it means that your provider has faster internet
On Nokia handsets, HSDPA shown as 3.5G .
Tyxerakias said:
Yes, it's HSDPA. It's faster than 3G, so it's good if you see that, it means that your provider has faster internet
On Nokia handsets, HSDPA shown as 3.5G .
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uhm does that mean i have am using a premium service that requires me to pay additional lol?
it wasn't like this. It recently became H from 3g only. :X
I've never heard of HSDPA being charged as a premium service. It's just your providers network.
Anyway you can disable it from them settings if you want. Just go to Settings>Wireless and network>Mobile networks>Network mode and choose GSM only. An alternative is to use APNdroid from the market.
I disable it when I'm in a WiFi network or when I don't need a data connection because it uses more battery.
I use the "WCDMA only" (forces HSDPA on) when I want a data connection so my phone does not switch to GSM automaticaly. Be careful if you use that option though. If you move to an area with no HSDPA coverage, your phone won't switch to GSM and you'll have no network connection
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I disable it when I'm in a WiFi network or when I don't need a data connection because it uses more battery.
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I thought if you were on wifi, the phone automatically turns off the mobile data connection?
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I thought if you were on wifi, the phone automatically turns off the mobile data connection?
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That's partly right. It does not send or receive data through the mobile data connection but that does not mean it switches to GSM network. It stays connected to the HSDPA mobile network just handles the data requests through WiFi. In my experience anyway
True, but if you don't go into WiFi/Advanced/WiFi Sleep Policy and set it to NEVER, when your phone goes to sleep so does WiFi, which causes the 3G radio to turn back on and using wireless data for updates, email checks, etc.
Long story short, if you're spending a lot of time in a WiFi area, set it to never sleep to save a lot of battery and a bit of data usage.
If you're moving around a lot, leaving WiFi on when the phone is sleeping will use more power, because not only is your 3g radio on, so is the WiFis, as it's constantly looking for a known network to hook up to and scanning for new ones.
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True, but if you don't go into WiFi/Advanced/WiFi Sleep Policy and set it to NEVER, when your phone goes to sleep so does WiFi, which causes the 3G radio to turn back on and using wireless data for updates, email checks, etc.
Long story short, if you're spending a lot of time in a WiFi area, set it to never sleep to save a lot of battery and a bit of data usage.
If you're moving around a lot, leaving WiFi on when the phone is sleeping will use more power, because not only is your 3g radio on, so is the WiFis, as it's constantly looking for a known network to hook up to and scanning for new ones.
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Hi I have a few questions about your comment here. I am in an office connected to wifi all day at work and when at home connected to wifi. When I look at battery usage it states
Display 46%
cell standby 19%
phone idle 12%
mario live wallpaper 9% (highest ive seen it but it is the best thing on this phone)
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Wi-Fi 2% (lowest item in list)
Are you saying if i tell it to never make wifi sleep then cell standby usage will go down and i will use less network data? and battery usage will be less then if it makes wifi sleep?
Also if i do this when I am not in office/home and i disable wifi will that also save me some battery?
At the moment i just have wifi on all the time and let the phone use what it wants to.
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Hi I have a few questions about your comment here. I am in an office connected to wifi all day at work and when at home connected to wifi. When I look at battery usage it states
Display 46%
cell standby 19%
phone idle 12%
mario live wallpaper 9% (highest ive seen it but it is the best thing on this phone)
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Wi-Fi 2% (lowest item in list)
Are you saying if i tell it to never make wifi sleep then cell standby usage will go down and i will use less network data? and battery usage will be less then if it makes wifi sleep?
Also if i do this when I am not in office/home and i disable wifi will that also save me some battery?
At the moment i just have wifi on all the time and let the phone use what it wants to.
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I believe "cell standby" does not talk of ACTIVE 3.x/2.x G connections! So you should not be looking at that parameter. However it is interesting for us to know that WiFi hardly use any power. "cell standby" should only talk of when mobile is really in standby or display off, low power (suspended) mode.
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Hi I have a few questions about your comment here. I am in an office connected to wifi all day at work and when at home connected to wifi. When I look at battery usage it states
Display 46%
cell standby 19%
phone idle 12%
mario live wallpaper 9% (highest ive seen it but it is the best thing on this phone)
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Wi-Fi 2% (lowest item in list)
Are you saying if i tell it to never make wifi sleep then cell standby usage will go down and i will use less network data? and battery usage will be less then if it makes wifi sleep?
Also if i do this when I am not in office/home and i disable wifi will that also save me some battery?
At the moment i just have wifi on all the time and let the phone use what it wants to.
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3G radio uses a LOT more power than short range WiFi. When WiFi is on and connected, the 3G connection is totally turned off. Totally.
Think about it this way...once you get past the new and shiny phase of owning your device, it probably spends MOST of its time with display off and sleeping. So, it will spend a LOT of its time connected to 3g if you let the WiFi go to sleep.
Turning Background Data and Autosync off will prevent the 3G radio from switching back on when WiFi is sleeping (and prevent WiFi from using much transmitter power when awake as well). But turning off sync/background data is not ideal if you need emails or whatever as soon as they are sent, accurate weather forecasts, etc.
Least battery usage is of course in Airplane mode with WiFi and Bluetooth turned off as well, since there is no radio activity at all. But we bought these devices in part because they're connected and "always on" data is coming in.
Here is how I do it:
I use APNdroid to switch 3G off when it's not needed. I find that I only rarely need 3G. Seems that you do not need it either.
I leave WiFi sleep on because tbh I have no reason not to. When WiFi goes to sleep 3G does not autoconnect anyway because of APNdroid.
That way the phone uses plain 2G when no data are needed. When data are needed it uses WiFi most of the time and 3G only when no WiFi is available and I manualy select to put 3g on
Sorry to chair another question.. I see a 'g' logo sometimes... Instead of 3g and h. What's g?
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Sorry to chair another question.. I see a 'g' logo sometimes... Instead of 3g and h. What's g?
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G = GPRS ( General Packet Radio Service )
E = EDGE ( Enhanced Data rates for GSM Evolution )
3G = 3rd Generation ( I unno, wtf. )
H = HSDPA ( High-Speed Downlink Packet Access )
Basically G(PRS) operates over GSM, it's from dial-up speeds to twice as fast as dial-up.
EDGE operates over 2G, it's almost as fast as standard DSL, about 400kbits and a maximum theoretical 1Mbit.
3G operates in tandem with HSDPA, infact technically HSPA is the technology that is used on the 3G network. It is typically up to 7.2Mbps, with a maximum theoretical of 14Mbit.
HSDPA and HSUPA are specific aspects of a HSPA enabled system. They are Down link and Up link capability respectively.
When you see H, the phone is going from a stable 3G connection to a boosted power consuming ( which is why it isn't constantly on ) state in which it can download very quickly.
So the if the phone connects over wifi it drops the data connection that might've been present on your phone network connection. Is it possible to configure your phone to maintain both wifi and 3G/HSDPA connections at the same time?
I require this because my operator provided (H3G UK network) Skype application only runs on 3G and I have to keep turning off wifi for it to work.
Funny, I find this feature great!! With my WM phones I never knew if it was using wifi or my data connection....even if you can do this how do you make one app use one connection over the other?
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Good q, i'd also like to know if it's possible...
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You can try droid wall, and configure it to block wifi for skype, it may solve your issue.
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Hmm, doesn't sound like that will work, because the phone has already dropped the phone network data connection as soon as I get back home onto my home wifi network (due to prioritisation?) I want the phone to maintain both so I can receive incoming Skype calls at home with fiddling with my phone. I understand why the phone does it and it is sensible for it to do so in most cases, but just not for my usage requirements!
Is it a software/hardware limitation that wifi and phone network data connections can't be open at the same time?
Install Nimbuzz. It supports Skype without that bulls**t restriction. It doesn't support group chats though.
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So the if the phone connects over wifi it drops the data connection that might've been present on your phone network connection. Is it possible to configure your phone to maintain both wifi and 3G/HSDPA connections at the same time?
I require this because my operator provided (H3G UK network) Skype application only runs on 3G and I have to keep turning off wifi for it to work.
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if WiFi is on, and 3G is on
the phone automatically uses WiFi first
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if WiFi is on, and 3G is on
the phone automatically uses WiFi first
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I lose the "H" or "3G" notifier when the phone connects to wifi, that's why it looks like it's purposesly dropping the data connection once it picks up my wifi, I can't see a way to maintain both simultaneously.
I'm using "Skype for 3" provided by my network, it has special integration on the 3 network which allows me unlimited Skype usage (inbound and outbound) without it eating into my data plan. So with this benefit I don't really want to use an alternative app.
I want to keep Skype running all the time so I can receive calls on it, but once I get home, the wifi kills the "H"/"3G" connection, which means my Skype can't receive calls.
the icon isn't there but i think the data (H / 3G) is still running in the background, incase your Wifi fails.
wifi is the... PREFERRED network?
have you tried getting your friend to call you via skype while you're on wifi?
I'm not sure if I am in the right section but I am running this on a Nexus 4.
I will be a truck driver for the summer, driving cross country. I plan on getting a Verizon Jetpack because T-Mobile sucks on interstates and I listen to music through Pandora and Google Music. What I am trying to setup is a tasker profile that turns WiFi ON when mobile network type is EDGE or GPRS, and turns the WiFi OFF once the mobile network type is HSPA (or LTE) again. The goal of this being, use my unlimited T-Mobile data when usable data is available and only use my Jetpack data when there isn't usable T-Mobile data.
I can get tasker to turn WiFi on by making a mobile data state for 3G-HSPA and 4G inverted, but once it is connected to WiFi, it doesn't check mobile network data anymore, so WiFi remains on when I gain 3G or 4G. I need it to check mobile network type, not what kind of data it has. Anyone have any clues?