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GPS Restore Program

Androidcentral just posted this article talking about a GPS setting restore program that Samsung has released. Link is below for any who are interested.
http://www.androidcentral.com/samsung-releases-gps-restore-app-vibrant-captivate-does-it-work
Note: It was originally intended for the Captivate so use at your own risk

Yeah, just saw that Samsung posted the announcement via Twitter. Wonder if it actually works.

imnuts said:
Yeah, just saw that Samsung posted the announcement via Twitter. Wonder if it actually works.
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DJ05 works, not something that resets your GPS values.
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I saw a comment on the article that it could be Samsung planning an update that requires the default settings for GPS to work properly. Why they wouldn't just have the update reset the data is beyond me, but it's a possibility. I'll just stick with DJ05.

I have to agree about DJ05. Incredible improvement. If I put my Fascinate in my windshield mount and start the GPS, it's locked on, and giving me directions by the time I back out of the driveway.

Have to third dj05. Gps is now spot on. I get a 15 second lock every time. Also get twice as many sats to lock in now than I did with di01.
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How do u guys get that dj05 or whatever its called.
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really wish this forum would not turn you on to information then withhold it
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neh4pres said:
really wish this forum would not turn you on to information then withhold it
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No one is withholding anything silly. Its just a matter of peoples jobs and such.
Google is your friend , your phone os, and your means of information. I bet if you spend like 5 mins searching you will be able to find just about anything you're looking for.
good luck

I installed it, works perfectly fine...
I'm kidding. I don't think it applies to our phone.

slvrevoix said:
No one is withholding anything silly. Its just a matter of peoples jobs and such.
Google is your friend , your phone os, and your means of information. I bet if you spend like 5 mins searching you will be able to find just about anything you're looking for.
good luck
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the logic problem with this is that if Samsung (who I strongly suspect knows about the leak) really wanted to find the leaker they could just as easily as any one else go to the IRC and obtain it. Not trying to be obtuse but are we really protecting the leaker by talking about, alluding to how to get it but simply not posting it ? I doubt it.
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BTW; I'm back with my Incredible, which locks instantly, until the GPS is fixed or an easy to find, easy to install fix is available. Over all I prefer the Fascinate but the sucky GPS is a deal breaker.

balaams_ass said:
the logic problem with this is that if Samsung (who I strongly suspect knows about the leak) really wanted to find the leaker they could just as easily as any one else go to the IRC and obtain it. Not trying to be obtuse but are we really protecting the leaker by talking about, alluding to how to get it but simply not posting it ? I doubt it.
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BTW; I'm back with my Incredible, which locks instantly, until the GPS is fixed or an easy to find, easy to install fix is available. Over all I prefer the Fascinate but the sucky GPS is a deal breaker.
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Then install dj05 and have a working GPS. I am not seeing any relevance to your post.
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balaams_ass said:
the logic problem with this is that if Samsung (who I strongly suspect knows about the leak) really wanted to find the leaker they could just as easily as any one else go to the IRC and obtain it. Not trying to be obtuse but are we really protecting the leaker by talking about, alluding to how to get it but simply not posting it ? I doubt it.
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The primary reason that it's not posted here is that the update may never be an official update. Since there is a risk in updating to DJ05, as well as going back to DI01, it's better to keep it where it currently is until the update is official or something else that is newer/better comes out.

adrynalyne said:
Then install dj05 and have a working GPS. I am not seeing any relevance to your post.
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And I'm not seeing a link to the downloadable file in yours. Adrynalyne your Omnia ROM is still on the phone in the old phone drawer and I have the greatest respect for the work all the devs do. I wish I had the skills and time. I am capable of understanding the risks involved in modding my phone and consider them in every instance.
The dj05 leak is not readily available, the reason that has been most often offered is that the leaker will be put in jeopardy if it is. I don't agree with that logic. That is the only relevance I was hoping for.

imnuts said:
The primary reason that it's not posted here is that the update may never be an official update. Since there is a risk in updating to DJ05, as well as going back to DI01, it's better to keep it where it currently is until the update is official or something else that is newer/better comes out.
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This makes much more sense. Minimize the access to the less skilled. In my case I think I could find it and install it. I choose not to probably because it seems less supported then makes me comfortable. So the logic and the result are proven.
I'm good now. Thanks

New software sprint has

Sprint had a software that send them your baseband version. So if you calling in for troubleshooting on your device be careful. If the rep knows what there doing and what to look for they can mark your device damaged beyond repair
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Sounds like ciq.
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Overstew said:
Sounds like ciq.
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Yup.
But who cares about the baseband? It's just the modem version.

Most likely what send the info. But I tested it on my phone ko and I had the no ciq roms and it still read them.... So idk I'm one of the techs that knows what he is doing there lol
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fury15 said:
Most likely what send the info. But I tested it on my phone ko and I had the no ciq roms and it still read them.... So idk I'm one of the techs that knows what he is doing there lol
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More information would be appreciated. Name of the software, how it's connecting, etc.

Only thing I know is the tool I use to check it... Its the thing that auto activates you're device so I don't know much
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Whoa sprint gonna start crackin down on the roots? J/k just kuz I highly doubt they really care all that much...
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*cue dramatic chord* wow actually.
considering what sprints up to with their base stations, customer service improvements, and the fact that even when i worked for em 3-4 years ago, they were always updating their rms/rms+/fast/snap/fdt systems, i can't say i'm too surprised.
the leg up they go for on the other companies afterall is trying to be the first to the gate with tech.
anything our system info can tell, i'm sure they can see. kernel/rom/etc. i doubt they'd act on it unless its a store visit though. or i'd hope not anyways. it'd be strange and surprising to see the company thats the easiest on the rom community(they're the only ones who kept their mouth shut about wireless tether so far, and the easiest with 3rd party apps from the beginning) to turn on them.

pixlz said:
*cue dramatic chord* wow actually.
considering what sprints up to with their base stations, customer service improvements, and the fact that even when i worked for em 3-4 years ago, they were always updating their rms/rms+/fast/snap/fdt systems, i can't say i'm too surprised.
the leg up they go for on the other companies afterall is trying to be the first to the gate with tech.
anything our system info can tell, i'm sure they can see. kernel/rom/etc. i doubt they'd act on it unless its a store visit though. or i'd hope not anyways. it'd be strange and surprising to see the company thats the easiest on the rom community(they're the only ones who kept their mouth shut about wireless tether so far, and the easiest with 3rd party apps from the beginning) to turn on them.
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They knew on my wifes Intercept two weeks ago and the tech support just asked if rom I was using was better than stock. I said yes, and he said that it s the only way to get that phone to function properly. He then took care of my issue as if it was a "non-rooted" phone.

I had my external speaker go out and took it up to the Sprint store to get the speaker replaced. The tech asked me if I rooted it, but he didn't have a problem with that.
The problem I had was that replacing the speaker screwed up the phone somehow so I had to re-flash. Meaning it wouldn't boot properly. But that is another story.

bender_123 said:
They knew on my wifes Intercept two weeks ago and the tech support just asked if rom I was using was better than stock. I said yes, and he said that it s the only way to get that phone to function properly. He then took care of my issue as if it was a "non-rooted" phone.
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So they knew just from you calling on that rooted phone that you had a custom ROM on there? Wow, not too bad.

OK - it makes sense that a tech/repair guy at the local Sprint store might be able to tell if you've "rooted" your phone ( by the way - didn't you all Odin back to stock ? ) ; but are you saying that Sprint HQ can tell if I'm rooted/ROMed just by me calling them from my Epic ? ....... Big Brother 4 Sure ( and they prolly reading this post , too )

fury15 said:
Sprint had a software that send them your baseband version. So if you calling in for troubleshooting on your device be careful. If the rep knows what there doing and what to look for they can mark your device damaged beyond repair
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Sounds like you left out a lot of information:
1. How do you know this? Is this something that happened to you or is this heresay / speculation?
2. Was this done on Stock phone or one with SRF/Bonsai (with no ciq?)?

TexasEpic4GUser said:
OK - it makes sense that a tech/repair guy at the local Sprint store might be able to tell if you've "rooted" your phone ( by the way - didn't you all Odin back to stock ? ) ; but are you saying that Sprint HQ can tell if I'm rooted/ROMed just by me calling them from my Epic ? ....... Big Brother 4 Sure ( and they prolly reading this post , too )
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I could care less about the Intercept...that damn thing can burn in a pit...which may actually help it function better than it currently does.
Not sure if they have a system or not, but I laughed that the dude knew the only way it works is with a custom ROM. I have Ubentdroid on it and at least the capacitive buttons work now.
If you can't tell, I would not recommend the Intercept. It sucks more than the suckiest suck that ever sucked.

This all goes back to the basic common sense I have followed from day 1 with my Android phone
make sure it is 100% stock before going to Spring for any troubleshooting assistance.
I don't understand why anyone would call sprint for help, BEFORE they had done this anyways.

DCRocks said:
This all goes back to the basic common sense I have followed from day 1 with my Android phone
make sure it is 100% stock before going to Spring for any troubleshooting assistance.
I don't understand why anyone would call sprint for help, BEFORE they had done this anyways.
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+1 on this

DCRocks said:
This all goes back to the basic common sense I have followed from day 1 with my Android phone
make sure it is 100% stock before going to Spring for any troubleshooting assistance.
I don't understand why anyone would call sprint for help, BEFORE they had done this anyways.
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Sometimes its an issue that isnt a biggie, so unroot is a waste of time. With my wifes, it was that her phone stopped being recognized on Sprint service. It ended up being an account screw up.

Well this is simple, we can just create a flashable zip to simply change the baseband to display the stock one.
(Haven't done any rom developement, so I don't know where that file lies.)

DCRocks said:
This all goes back to the basic common sense I have followed from day 1 with my Android phone
make sure it is 100% stock before going to Spring for any troubleshooting assistance.
I don't understand why anyone would call sprint for help, BEFORE they had done this anyways.
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EXACTLY! why take a chance? especially if you have lost/stolen protection, you don't want to give them a reason to screw you over. good to know they can figure it out over the phone as well tho. hopefully they stay content letting people root away w/ no consequence except for a voided warranty, considering all the reasons they give customers for rooting (CIQ, DRM, ect...)

Overstew said:
Well this is simple, we can just create a flashable zip to simply change the baseband to display the stock one.
(Haven't done any rom developement, so I don't know where that file lies.)
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Baseband is your modem version...
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root suggestion

I'm sure this was probably already suggested but instead of trying to fool/force the bootloader to go s-off or something, why not try this (warning: stupid content ahead) You could actually push a known exploitable source such as flash (wait until latest update, flash is known for being better than swiss cheese when it comes to holes) and trying to get that to have an arbitrary code injection. Why not instead of treating it like android and linux, just treat it as linux.
I'm not an android dev but I was just offering thoughts.
Or you could even just start poking through apk's that are allowed system level access if there are any without root and make an apk to gain system access to break in by tricking the file system?

Indirect said:
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I'm not an android dev ...
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I left the more accurate points made by the OP in the quote.
If you're no dev, then this is not the place to be posting.
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Well its good of you to post ideas and sorry this section is full of flamers
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I don't think it is appropriate to insult someone for offering suggestions, regardless of whether you feel they are right or not. Progress does not exist without new ideas, which more often than not, are wrong.
Try some helpful input instead of just being rude.
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Posted something in this thread I think certain people need to read
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Vegasden said:
I left the more accurate points made by the OP in the quote.
If you're no dev, then this is not the place to be posting.
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no need to be rude...

It's not really rude. Just kind of accurate.
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I'm just offering suggestions. It actually was rude.

Cover your phone with gorilla glue, put a mixture of seeds on the glue. Dig a 12 inch hole and bury your phone. Water it everyday for 6 weeks. Dig up your phone and shazam! Rooted
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lithid-cm said:
Cover your phone with gorilla glue, put a mixture of seeds on the glue. Dig a 12 inch hole and bury your phone. Water it everyday for 6 weeks. Dig up your phone and shazam! Rooted
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Psh, 6 weeks is too long. Just nail the damn thing to a tree. Technically, rooted.

lithid-cm said:
Cover your phone with gorilla glue, put a mixture of seeds on the glue. Dig a 12 inch hole and bury your phone. Water it everyday for 6 weeks. Dig up your phone and shazam! Rooted
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I like your method. Is this the final result of your attempt at root. Or did this non dev poster hit too close to one of your ideas and you want to discourage him before someone else beats you to it.

Indirect said:
Psh, 6 weeks is too long. Just nail the damn thing to a tree. Technically, rooted.
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This is actually quite funny and I think someone needs to open a new thread in the gen. forums along the lines of android/phone jokes... we need some good humor now and then (along w/ the dirty minded stuff)
edit* sorry this has nothing to do with OP

rofl this is why i love my xda fam, the good and the bad its all funny,
but to stay on topic:
This has more than likely already been thought about so as android is android,
and java is java, and linux is linux, programs without root access are sandboxed, and only programs with root access can run as root, and if user does not have some way shape or form access to the superuser then there is no way there can be any permission changes to anything above the current users, or programs sandbox, if that makes any sense....

androidsupra said:
I like your method. Is this the final result of your attempt at root. Or did this non dev poster hit too close to one of your ideas and you want to discourage him before someone else beats you to it.
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Lithids just a huge flamer..
Jk
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androidsupra said:
I like your method. Is this the final result of your attempt at root. Or did this non dev poster hit too close to one of your ideas and you want to discourage him before someone else beats you to it.
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I think this is the funniest post so far.

Vegasden said:
I left the more accurate points made by the OP in the quote.
If you're no dev, then this is not the place to be posting.
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Free thinkers are dangerous

Since no one answered I'll take a shot. There would need to be a permissions escalation exploit in flash or other app for this to work. Others have thought of this for sure already and you first need to find an exploit in flash or some other app.
Likely if any exploits do exist no one knows about them. We don't need people to suggest the idea at a high level. We need people to search and find such exploits. Or figure out another way.
It's either a waiting game or buy a new phone.
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JUST REMEMBER ONE BIG HUGE THING! WHEN YOU FIND A BUG. PLZ PLZ PLZ PLZ PLZ DO NOT IN ANY FORM OR WAY POST IT ONLINE!
NEVERNEVERNEVERNEVERNEVER
That's because sprint and HTC monitor these threads 100% OF THE DAY. in fact, I know for a fact that a few of these guys that talk on here all the time are employees and little rats. they won't come out and say it because this is what their job is. to monitor us.
Send the Information to a few limited dev's and wait for a response.
ACTUALLY!!!! I think another way to do this is to make a thread*not thread, but like a folder/area we can make threads* and put a lock on it to prevent anyone under 300ish posts from even reading them. :-D then that thread will only have the smarter guys in it or people that have been around for a while. :-D
LMAO!!!! okay, now to do what I just said not to do....... okay, so tell me guys. where does the OTA get saved at? That certain object has root. Is it possible to send us an OTA over the radio over our OWN radio? you know those radio booster things they send customers when they are too far out for service that the customer hooks up to their wifi? I wonder if it is possible to hack that and get it to think you're downloading a new OTA but really would be changing it to root. lol. actually. I honestly think that would truely work.
I didn't really word that right. but I think you guys get the point. I know it is possible. cause think about it. if the thing is going through YOUR OWN network... you control what is on your own network. :-D therefore, you could tell it anything you wanted it to know. :-D

Yeah, but wouldn't the image you push as a fake OTA need to be signed like everything else? Maybe we could trick the OS into installing an older OTA, but even then I bet it would give an error about the version being older.
Still, anyone know how one could try to trick it? I believe the updates are stored in cache, and otherwise I don't know how the system knows that there is an update downloaded and ready to be installed.
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runcool said:
That's because sprint and HTC monitor these threads 100% OF THE DAY. in fact, I know for a fact that a few of these guys that talk on here all the time are employees and little rats. they won't come out and say it because this is what their job is. to monitor us.
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I'm a Sprint employee but I'm more of a bear than rat

So why us Sprint detecting I'm in mikfroyo 4.62

Anyone know why when I tried to open a network support ticket they are detecting I'm on a mikfroyo rom. I changed Roms so many times the past 6months.. so what the hell is up with that:
They even said you have to be on a official Rom.. man how they detect this info is pretty funny. And how wrong it is.
But any way to fix that issue
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Why do you think they would give you support when you voided your warranty by rooting and installing another ROM?
I mean seriously...

I don't need support. I do wish to inform them of their network problem here... If so I have 8 other people with Sprint who are official.. who can report the network problem aswell ... Why would I need support if my phone is perfectly fine. And besides the fact I'm not running the Rom they are indicating I am...
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Again... think about it for a little bit. They don't know if you have 8 other people who are experiencing they same problem you are.
They're not going to waste their time with a problem that could be the result of a modded phone.

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Why do you think they would give you support when you voided your warranty by rooting and installing another ROM?
I mean seriously...
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You only voided your warranty with HTC, not sprint. I've taken my rooted/S-OFF device many times and have talked to the store reps and they have no policy against rooted devices. There is stores that will give you a hassle just to be lazy, meanwhile other stores will ask you to simply flash back to stock to help narrow down issues caused by software or hardware.

Oh so a version from stock that just has apps removed that ate considered bloated. So that can be a phone error. Dude I've flashed many roms kernels and radios and its the network. I'm not after phone support. I don't need a warranty on my Damn phone but I pay them for service via their towers if they have issues with it then they should fix their network problems. I will pay insurion if I have phone issues its why I have them.
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The guy just said to install a stock Rom and give him info. The guy was like okay 3rd party. You need to install stock . But he did agree there is probably a problem in the area.
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ANyways the guy said I should keep stock until testing is done well. Im on a modified stock rom etc (testing this rom out). Anyways is there a way to show them my software/build number as stock or whatever to fool them when i re provision it to update their system?

nemoid said:
Again... think about it for a little bit. They don't know if you have 8 other people who are experiencing they same problem you are.
They're not going to waste their time with a problem that could be the result of a modded phone.
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no they are not wasting their time providing CUSTOMER support to a paying CUSTOMER

How can Sprint finds out if your rooted with a custom Rom? Even they never saw the phone?
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culua said:
How can Sprint finds out if your rooted with a custom Rom? Even they never saw the phone?
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I used to Run Mikfroyo but the thing is I don't know how they know I was on a custom rom. Maybe when provision your phone it sends that data. Now I'm On a different rom but i was unaware how he knew. The guy *PinkElmo* basically just said to go back to stock ROM for the duration of the testing (sounds like he not only not has a problem with it but sounds like he uses custom as wellXD).
I'm still puzzled as to how they found out...

I also currently using mikfroyo 4.61. But I didn't start rooting after a month signing up.
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culua said:
I also currently using mikfroyo 4.61. But I didn't start rooting after a month signing up.
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I had to provision a few months back though... But It Got me wondering. I have been downloading a stock rom at 199mb it should take roughly 2-8 hours on the Sprints NOW DialUp Network

Sprint has a program called OMA-DM. This program has all the information from the status section of your device. When I worked for sprint we would have customers update their data profile, this would send the information to the tool. The rep can then see what rom you are on. However this did not work on AOSP roms since they do not update the profile.
If you want to fool sprint update your profile under a stock unmodified rom, then flash to AOSP, the info for the sense rom would be still in the system.
Furthermore they can see if you have updated the profile, so if you tell them that you did they will be able to see if you actually did or not.. They are also able to view all the transactions with dates and times between your phone and the tool.
My advise to you is to suck it up and run the official rom until the testing is over, usually about a week.
Also sprint has no control over a custom rom, so they automatically have you update profile and firmware to the current version to ensure that the phone is working to their standards and things that they have control over.
TL;DR - Quit complaining and use a stock rom so sprint can do their testing.

The complaining in this thread has me puzzled. Run a stock Tom for them to test, reinstall favorite Tom when done...

Pao23 said:
The complaining in this thread has me puzzled. Run a stock Tom for them to test, reinstall favorite Tom when done...
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is your favorite "Tom" a "Tom Collins"? hahaha, sorry. i had to.

Thanks and for data profile. Just the one under updates? If so it would have shown mikg if clean rom I got a download of stock and was going to flash it when i can before Tuesday since Monday is a holiday...
Thanks for informing me how they detect what Rom your on.
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I imagine sprint can know quite a bit about your phone. When I had my diamond, (or maybe it was my Evo, I forget) something wasn't working right. I got on the phone with a tech, and he proceeded to to operate my phone while I was holding my phone. I could see the screen clicks, and him going from one menu to another, operating my phone remotely. Blew me away.
As for the monitoring SW mentioned earlier in this thread, does it read build prop values? Cuz I'm guessing that's how they get your device info.
Lastly, post 2 and 3 about not expecting sprint to work on/assess your rooted phone. BS. Sprint has given mixed signals about this. I know there have been internal memos released stating they now will honor rooted phones. I think lazyness is the culprit when a comes to CSRs or techs rejecting for root. I've always taken in my rooted phone and put a stockish rom on it first, when I have a hardware problem (blown speaker, broken screen, etc.)
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cmsjr123 said:
Thanks and for data profile. Just the one under updates? If so it would have shown mikg if clean rom I got a download of stock and was going to flash it when i can before Tuesday since Monday is a holiday...
Thanks for informing me how they detect what Rom your on.
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Yes the one under the updates.
scottspa74 said:
I imagine sprint can know quite a bit about your phone. When I had my diamond, (or maybe it was my Evo, I forget) something wasn't working right. I got on the phone with a tech, and he proceeded to to operate my phone while I was holding my phone. I could see the screen clicks, and him going from one menu to another, operating my phone remotely. Blew me away.
As for the monitoring SW mentioned earlier in this thread, does it read build prop values? Cuz I'm guessing that's how they get your device info.
Lastly, post 2 and 3 about not expecting sprint to work on/assess your rooted phone. BS. Sprint has given mixed signals about this. I know there have been internal memos released stating they now will honor rooted phones. I think lazyness is the culprit when a comes to CSRs or techs rejecting for root. I've always taken in my rooted phone and put a stockish rom on it first, when I have a hardware problem (blown speaker, broken screen, etc.)
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They used an application call LogMeIn Rescue. It gives them the ability to remotely view/control a pc, windows or blackberry phone. Its actually a lot easier to do it for a customer more often then trying to walk them through it.
Yes the information displayed in the about phone section is stored in the build.prop.
As for the software; software plays a factor in how the device operates and communicates with the network. Sprint has designed the stock software on their devices to their standards. They know their software and how it works. Now take a custom rom, one that has be frankenstined together. How do you expect a company to properly troubleshoot and diagnose a problem that could very well be related to the customer software?
I totally agree with the laziness part on the Tech Reps, after working with the company for several years, Id have to say most of the reps were less educated or technically minded about the device that they were working with. I could not tell you how many times I would hear customers complain about the Tech Reps.
Going to a hardware issue, Custom software would not break the screen, blow a speaker, or otherwise cause physical damage to the device (with the exception of a battery). So these should have no effect on hardware warranty's or exchanges.

[Q] MF3 bricked, question about 4.3

so I have a bricked MF3 build.
I've read up and down, and at this point it can't be fixed. bootloader locked, etc.
I had an idea of flashing the 4.3 leak onto the S4 in hopes of fixing the /system/ partition since only one file is messed up that is causing the phone to bootloop.
if I could locate the 4.3 leak -- will it fix my soft-brick?
hypothetically speaking it should, right?
all directions that speak of flashing the file ask that the phone be ON the MF3 baseband.
is the odin file for JWR66V on the i337 signed so that I could flash it in Odin and get my phone working again?
sounds like it should work, please any input?

Nope. MF3 baseband is the modem needed. That can be flashed to MDL. The MF3 OTA completely locks your bootloaders... You're screwed.
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graydiggy said:
Nope. MF3 baseband is the modem needed. That can be flashed to MDL. The MF3 OTA completely locks your bootloaders... You're screwed.
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Needed for what? graydiggy, please fix that partial sentence "That can be flashed to MDL."
Solidus636 might be screwed like you say, but your answer leaves me wondering why.

That is not a partial sentence. OP cannot flash anything on the MF3 firmware update.
The MF3 baseband can be separately flashed onto MDL. At that point, one would be able to flash 4.3.
Since there is no way to flash using MF3, OP goofed.
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That is not a partial sentence. OP cannot flash anything on the MF3 firmware update.
The MF3 baseband can be separately flashed onto MDL. At that point, one would be able to flash 4.3.
Since there is no way to flash using MF3, OP goofed.
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Thank you for the clarification.
Why are these people that took the OTA MF3 update from AT&T trying to flash in the first place?
How are they getting root or a recovery? It makes no sense to me.
Solidus636? What did you do (please include details) how did you do it? It would be helpful for everyone to learn what not to do.

We are able to get root with no issues. Just no recovery.
Why? People don't read. They don't care that they could brick a $650 phone. They deserve it.
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graydiggy said:
We are able to get root with no issues. Just no recovery.
Why? People don't read. They don't care that they could brick a $650 phone. They deserve it.
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Thanks, I read up on getting root for MF3 OTA and it says right up front CAUTION THERE IS NO RECOVERY
and rooting looks like it's more complex, I remember the Android Debug Bridge, and I'm glad I was able to get in early with motochopper and then casual and I'm pleased with the GoldenEye Rom. Just a tap and a swipe bar in the TWRP recovery. I see how I dodged a bullet back in June when I froze AT&T Update service with Titanium Backup. I'm lucky. And it took me a long time to grasp all the terminology and what the difference is between root and getting a custom recovery, and I'm sure that it's not the amount of reading one does, but rather comprehension. That's why when I print in here I try not to leave anything out.
Whiz kids like yourself forget what it's like to wonder if there is a difference between installing a zip or flashing one and could care less on articulating the details you take for granted.
There's not a fix in the world for solidus636's handset cuz he blew the E fuse huh? Not sure what that is and barely understood it when I read about it.
I loathe AT&T. Now they locked the bootloader. What a bunch of creeps. I almost didn't get the S4 because of the shrunken SIM but I found an adapter so I can light up all those old phones in my gun safe. It's how I roll. I would never buy a handset you couldn't pull the battery on. And everytime I see a new connector plug I go on a rant about UL listed and deregulation. Instead of making a one size fits all battery, almost every device has a different shape size and fit.
Ok all done complaining now. Beg pardon for bending your ear. I think you like it tho, and will find something to be smart alec about.

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Thank you for the clarification.
Why are these people that took the OTA MF3 update from AT&T trying to flash in the first place?
How are they getting root or a recovery? It makes no sense to me.
Solidus636? What did you do (please include details) how did you do it? It would be helpful for everyone to learn what not to do.
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i Rooted the phone.
then i messed with the /framwork-res.apk and accidentally renamed it to /framework-res.apk.bak and now there is NO framework-res.apk file inside /system/framework/ meaning i am soft-bricked until I can get the MF3 Odin file or a file higher than that....
i also didn't accept the RSA keys to default to accept on my computer, meaning I can't access ADB it says OFFLINE. if I could access ADB this would've been an easy fix by renaming the framework-res.apk.bak file back to framework-res.apk, but I messed up:/

graydiggy said:
We are able to get root with no issues. Just no recovery.
Why? People don't read. They don't care that they could brick a $650 phone. They deserve it.
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i don't deserve anything. i made a mistake and forgot to take precaution. i'm not blaming anyone, i asked a simple damn question....so get off your damn high horse. LOL..... sigh.
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Thanks, I read up on getting root for MF3 OTA and it says right up front CAUTION THERE IS NO RECOVERY
and rooting looks like it's more complex, I remember the Android Debug Bridge, and I'm glad I was able to get in early with motochopper and then casual and I'm pleased with the GoldenEye Rom. Just a tap and a swipe bar in the TWRP recovery. I see how I dodged a bullet back in June when I froze AT&T Update service with Titanium Backup. I'm lucky. And it took me a long time to grasp all the terminology and what the difference is between root and getting a custom recovery, and I'm sure that it's not the amount of reading one does, but rather comprehension. That's why when I print in here I try not to leave anything out.
Whiz kids like yourself forget what it's like to wonder if there is a difference between installing a zip or flashing one and could care less on articulating the details you take for granted.
There's not a fix in the world for solidus636's handset cuz he blew the E fuse huh? Not sure what that is and barely understood it when I read about it.
I loathe AT&T. Now they locked the bootloader. What a bunch of creeps. I almost didn't get the S4 because of the shrunken SIM but I found an adapter so I can light up all those old phones in my gun safe. It's how I roll. I would never buy a handset you couldn't pull the battery on. And everytime I see a new connector plug I go on a rant about UL listed and deregulation. Instead of making a one size fits all battery, almost every device has a different shape size and fit.
Ok all done complaining now. Beg pardon for bending your ear. I think you like it tho, and will find something to be smart alec about.
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i didn't blow the e-fuse. i messed up one single file within /system/framework/ and the moment an odin flash file is released with mf3 , even only the system.img will be the moment I can fix my device... but i asked if we could do this or not. seems it's bricked for now.

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i don't deserve anything. i made a mistake and forgot to take precaution. i'm not blaming anyone, i asked a simple damn question....so get off your damn high horse. LOL..... sigh.
i didn't blow the e-fuse. i messed up one single file within /system/framework/ and the moment an odin flash file is released with mf3 , even only the system.img will be the moment I can fix my device... but i asked if we could do this or not. seems it's bricked for now.
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You are educated and knowledgeable beyond my own level of intelligence. If I could help I would. If anyone comes up with a petition for a class action against AT&T for locking their bootloader I'm all in. Too bad you can't boot all the way up and get root explorer to fix your file name.

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You are educated and knowledgeable beyond my own level of intelligence. If I could help I would. If anyone comes up with a petition for a class action against AT&T for locking their bootloader I'm all in. Too bad you can't boot all the way up and get root explorer to fix your file name.
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there is!
https://www.change.org/petitions/samsung-usa-at-t-unlock-the-bootloader-of-the-galaxy-s4-sgh-i337-2
sign it!

solidus636 said:
there is!
https://www.change.org/petitions/samsung-usa-at-t-unlock-the-bootloader-of-the-galaxy-s4-sgh-i337-2
sign it!
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I signed it. Thanks for the link

solidus636 said:
there is!
https://www.change.org/petitions/samsung-usa-at-t-unlock-the-bootloader-of-the-galaxy-s4-sgh-i337-2
sign it!
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I didn't sign it because I don't do "facebook". It would appear my wife just signed it. LOL

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I didn't sign it because I don't do "facebook". It would appear my wife just signed it. LOL
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you don't need facebook to sign it.........

fukenbiker said:
You are educated and knowledgeable beyond my own level of intelligence. If I could help I would. If anyone comes up with a petition for a class action against AT&T for locking their bootloader I'm all in. Too bad you can't boot all the way up and get root explorer to fix your file name.
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The only posts I have seen from you are trying to get people to file a class action lawsuit against AT&T and to start petitions. Why don't you either shut the hell up about it or do it yourself.
First:
AT&T does not have to provide unlocked bootloaders . Those are not open source. They can do whatever they damn well please with THEIR bootloaders. A lawsuit would be fruitless.
Second:
Stop trying to get people to do what you want. If you want it, do it yourself. If you are too lazy to do it, shut your mouth. You sit here and preach all this BS but are too lazy to even sign a petition that was linked to you. You act like you're 12. Only a kid would put forth so much talk but absolutely no action.
I will start reporting every post from you that has anything to do with you trying to get people to do what you want in regards to this topic, if i see one more. I and many others are tired of seeing it. You are spamming the forums with it.
OP Google the odin file you are looking for or use the search function here in the forums
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graydiggy said:
The only posts I have seen from you are trying to get people to file a class action lawsuit against AT&T and to start petitions. Why don't you either shut the hell up about it or do it yourself.
First:
AT&T does not have to provide unlocked bootloaders . Those are not open source. They can do whatever they damn well please with THEIR bootloaders. A lawsuit would be fruitless.
Second:
Stop trying to get people to do what you want. If you want it, do it yourself. If you are too lazy to do it, shut your mouth. You sit here and preach all this BS but are too lazy to even sign a petition that was linked to you. You act like you're 12. Only a kid would put forth so much talk but absolutely no action.
I will start reporting every post from you that has anything to do with you trying to get people to do what you want in regards to this topic, if i see one more. I and many others are tired of seeing it. You are spamming the forums with it.
OP Google the odin file you are looking for or use the search function here in the forums
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An EXCELLENT scolding! I KNEW you would find my prattle fodder for discussion!
You're dead wrong however, as I am busy.
I have a day job being a g*[email protected] lineman that I won't bore you with, but something up your self righteous research and document alley would be the web page that I constantly try to improve: http://lango.us
If they start the revolution, it might be without you and your own laziness, but I do not intend to be counted out.
So go ahead. Tell me to shut the hell up again.
I bet you're a profile picture of a Libtard.

fukenbiker said:
An EXCELLENT scolding! I KNEW you would find my prattle fodder for discussion!
You're dead wrong however, as I am busy.
I have a day job being a g*[email protected] lineman that I won't bore you with, but something up your self righteous research and document alley would be the web page that I constantly try to improve: http://lango.us
If they start the revolution, it might be without you and your own laziness, but I do not intend to be counted out.
So go ahead. Tell me to shut the hell up again.
I bet you're a profile picture of a Libtard.
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Congrats on being nothing to me. I could care less how busy you are or what you do. I also noticed you brag about being a lineman... Cool story, bro. Another worthless piece of info. You sound like a conspiracy theorist. Everyone is out to get you, man. We gotta get this revolution rolling, bro. I don't even care to look at the link. I'm too busy with the real world. So... With all that said, shut the hell up. (see? I said it again.) No one cares. If you want to start a revolution, keep it off of XDA. This is not the place for your political agendas or views. This is not the place to get people to join your uprising against AT&T or anyone else for that matter. Take it to Facebook.
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google it
Do a search for" [AT&T][How To][FIX] Did you root MF3 then try to flash a custom recovery"
hopefully it works for you guys.

smcabete said:
Do a search for" [AT&T][How To][FIX] Did you root MF3 then try to flash a custom recovery"
hopefully it works for you guys.
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This really did work, thanks! Only allows booting into the os and trying factory reset doesn't work but arty least I can use it again until a fix for mf3 is found.

Yup.. I fell right into that trap too... just happens when you think about it too much. Just be happy with your phone and live with it till a dev can make it better in the future.