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Here's a video of a Motorola Droid running the Nexus One firmware but with Multi touch enable in the browser.
I assume this is using the mutli touch enabled functions from the Milestone. Surely someone can port this back over to the Nexus One soon.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7mX1EmlKtFM
The Nexus already has multi touch, just not supported by any apps that comes with the phone or used in the OS itself. Fore example download dolphin browser from the market, it'll make use of multi touch.. no hacks. I tested this with my wifes Nexus One, works great.
Right, it has multi touch technically, but basically nothing in the phone is set to use the functionality from the get go to my understanding.
So, the question remains... Will someone develop an app or whatever (rom / hack / program) that overcomes this and makes it functional in basically every operation of the phone (web browsers other than Dolphin, text messaging, games, etc...)?
I'll certainly be keeping my eye out for that. I read about the Milestone functions being used on other phones, like in the video linked of the Droid using it with multi touch. I would hope this same thing can be done for the Nexus One without affecting performance or other factors of the phone.
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Right, it has multi touch technically, but basically nothing in the phone is set to use the functionality from the get go to my understanding.
So, the question remains... Will someone develop an app or whatever (rom / hack / program) that overcomes this and makes it functional in basically every operation of the phone (web browsers other than Dolphin, text messaging, games, etc...)?
I'll certainly be keeping my eye out for that. I read about the Milestone functions being used on other phones, like in the video linked of the Droid using it with multi touch. I would hope this same thing can be done for the Nexus One without affecting performance or other factors of the phone.
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There's no app or hack that can add the functionality to every single app. Basically each app (or APK) decides whether or not to use the multi touch APIs. Google put the APKs on this phone that don't use them. I'm sure once the European ones come out that use it, they can be hacked onto this phone, and people can probably go in and edit the APKs on the US Version as well. I would be willing to bet that custom ROMs that come out will include multi-touch versions of apps. Cyanogen has already said he is working on multi-touch for his first custom ROM. It will be here in time.
He may have already done it check this out: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=613812
none of that has to do with browser, sorry. he tweeted earlier that he was working on it so expect it soon . until then, use dolphin.
Yeah I figured it was specific to each app / apk (not sure what an apk is) unless a full ROM makes it possible with everything on the phone.
If one is being developed, that's awesome. Bringing the ROM from the Europe Model sounds like a good option to, once it hits the market. I'm waiting on the Verizon release, so just figuring some of this stuff out ahead of time.
I guess its just a tweak which will enable Multitouch for all the apps on Nexus one... Soon one clever guy from XDA will figure out
Simple question - Is there any way to get Flash Player or Flash Lite working on the X10 with any Android browser?
use the search feature.. there's various posts already on this.
I thought there might be but i cant find them.
Because searching for "flash" comes up with flashing the device, camera flash and all kinds of other things.
So any help would be appreciated.
EDIT, dont worry i found the asnwer. No Flash on X10. Only issue i have with this phone.
fairy nuff!!.. short answer is no.. and I'm no expert, but I understand that it's not possible on And 1.6.. but maybe on 2.1 (possibly!).. or.. you can use a browser which renders flash at the server and then passes it to you in a format the handset can make sense of.. the only browser i'm aware of that can do this at the moment is skyfire.. and that's a beta test app so isn't quite there yet.. but suspect it won't be long.
skyfire browser has a kind of work around. it grabs flash videos and converts them on the fly.
i don't know if it's any good yet as i only downloaded it yesterday, but it might be what you're after
I've already tried skyfire, it didn't work lol. Well it might for videos, didn't try for them, because i'm more interested in Flash sites and games (which is what i make).
Hello everyone,
I'm chiaotzu and I'm from India. I bought HTC Wildfire a week ago and still learning the things. I must say I'm impressed with everything in it, but I still think I'm missing few points so I'd appreciate if someone can focus on few things. Here are few questions:
1. My Android Version is 2.2.1, does this means I have froyo?
2. I haven't upgraded anything, I've got above version when I bough the phone, so will I able to root the phone? (Sorry no idea why I wanna do that, just coming from iPod Touch, I presume it's something similar to Jailbreak)
3. If I'll be able to root, what is the procedure and are there any risks involved?
4. People are talking about CM7, Openfire and other stuff, what are they? Are they custom firmwares like sn0wbreeze for iPhone?
5. Will I be able to overclock my HTC Wildfire? If yes, How?
6. Is there any software which will make "Google Maps" to cache the data with the specified diameter and level, I'm not looking for any third party software. Because most of them are not easy to use or not working properly. If there is any software which can download maps for offline use and still able to locate me using GPS without internet connection, kindly mention it, I'll give it a go.
7. While using handsfree, when I get call from someone or SMS, is there any software which will read out the name of the calling person if from contacts list, if not, just read out the number and contents of the message if its a text message.
8. Any book reading software which can read ePub format and has the same interface as iBooks with support for Audio books and PDF books?
9. Any alternatives for Awesome note?
10. Best dictionary out there? It was wordbook for iOS?
11. What application should I use to get the best combination of size and quality. I convert my DVD movies using MeGUI using x264 and Nero AAC with MKV Container using 535 Bitrate for Video and 32 for Audio. But I think MKV won't go well with Android, so kindly let me know any application, free or paid? Also kindly share with me your best settings of bitrate that you think are sufficient or okay to have.
I must say, I'm impressed with HTC Sense giving us the full control over the screens, its like desktops of Linux, all 7 of them, but more awesome. I have no words to express my joy and screen resolutions isn't bad at all as many people say, which is a good thing because it saves battery I suppose.
Also for people who have installed Winamp, kindly remove it because it makes handfree button obsolete which starts winamp music instead of receiving calls.
Thanks and looking forward to answers.
PS: xda-developers, I thought it's a community for developers with hardcore programming, but thank god we have general section here.
1. Yes, you have froyo
2. Sorry, but you can't root your phone yet, the Froyo version of WIldfire has something different, just wait/
3. You'll lost warranty, and guest what, anything can happen.
4. Yeah, they are popular custom ROM for Wildfire
5. You can, flash OC kernel or custom ROM and install setCPU
6. Lastest Google Maps can cache for offline use afaik, or you can use many other app in the market
7,8,9,10: I don't have answer now
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1. Yes, you have froyo
2. Sorry, but you can't root your phone yet, the Froyo version of WIldfire has something different, just wait/
3. You'll lost warranty, and guest what, anything can happen.
4. Yeah, they are popular custom ROM for Wildfire
5. You can, flash OC kernel or custom ROM and install setCPU
6. Lastest Google Maps can cache for offline use afaik, or you can use many other app in the market
7,8,9,10: I don't have answer now
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1. Thanks for confirming.
2. Oh, guess I'll have to wait then. Fair enough, I'll just get myself familiar with Android stuff before jumping into something like that.
3. Ohh, but I want to know if something wrong happens at the time of rooting or flashing the Wildfire with new custom ROM (Firmware or Modified OS?), will I able to switch back to whatever I had previously? If my phone crashed at the time of rooting or flashing, will I able to install the original 2.2.1 OS from somewhere somehow?
4. What is ROM? I presume its a modified version of Software or Firmware or OS of Android. Am I correct?
5. What do you mean by flash? Does flash means just erasing previous data from chip and installing new ROM? Or just changing few files in the OS to suit our requirements?
6. Google maps can cache the maps that we view or get directions for. I want to cache the whole city map so I'll get home safely if I'm lost or will be able to find some address easily.
Thanks a lot for answering the questions and yes, I have one more question.
What application should I use to get the best combination of size and quality. I convert my DVD movies using MeGUI using x264 and Nero AAC with MKV Container using 535 Bitrate for Video and 32 for Audio. But I think MKV won't go well with Android, so kindly let me know any application, free or paid? Also kindly share with me your best settings of bitrate that you think are sufficient or okay to have.
Thanks a lot, I know I type a lot, but I'm excited a lot about my Wildfire.
i'm kind of new too, so for the application question, I'll leave it to other people.
The flash process (install OS or install patch...) is pretty safe now, and you can get original ROM to go back to the original Froyo, but I pretty sure you'll not have to do this.
The ROM = the kernel, OS and the core system app, flash a new ROM means you install a new OS into your phone (similar to firmware on iPhone ? I don't have iPhone)
The whole flashing process is automatic for the end user like us, when rooting, you will have a new recovery call clockworkmod, in this you just have to choose the zip file of the ROM you want.
The newest version of Google Maps cache your data for offline use, and there's ton of app in the market that has offline access and navigation too, so you don't have to worry
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i'm kind of new too, so for the application question, I'll leave it to other people.
The flash process (install OS or install patch...) is pretty safe now, and you can get original ROM to go back to the original Froyo, but I pretty sure you'll not have to do this.
The ROM = the kernel, OS and the core system app, flash a new ROM means you install a new OS into your phone (similar to firmware on iPhone ? I don't have iPhone)
The whole flashing process is automatic for the end user like us, when rooting, you will have a new recovery call clockworkmod, in this you just have to choose the zip file of the ROM you want.
The newest version of Google Maps cache your data for offline use, and there's ton of app in the market that has offline access and navigation too, so you don't have to worry
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Thanks a lot mate for the explanation, really appreciate it. Your elaborated explanation cleared out so many things and feeling secure now about the whole process.
I'd appreciate if someone answers rest of the questions.
If you root and install a custom rom you lose the warranty, but if you can still flash a RUU ROM (aka original rom) from http://shipped-roms.com/shipped/Buzz/ you have an 90 % chance of the service guys not knowing that you have modified your phone.
6. Mapdroyd has some good offline maps and it`s very simmilar to Gmaps, I highly encourage you to test it, just dowload the country you are interested it and you`re done.
8. For PDF files I recommend Repligo Reader, brilliant piece of kit. For Epub I`ve heard of FBReaderJ, but I don`t really know if it work on QVGA, you`ll need to test it out.
1. Yes.
2. No. Froyo has a new HBOOT (eqt. of bootrom on an ipod touch) which is not rootable currently.
4. Custom ROMS, since android is open source, its very easy to customize. so different "flavors" exist. sorta like distros on linux. Although, you cant get these either thanks to not having root.
5. Since you can't root, no.
6. No. I've tried a lot.
7. i dont know, maybe.
8. Laputa book reader, and Aldiko book reader
9. i dunno wat that is, sorry. If its a note taking app, then theres color note, springpad, etc.
10. ColorDict. Dictionaries are plugins, has pronunciation, thesaurus, etc. get it.
11. mp4 works fine, but movies arent really good or enjoyable on our crappy screen Make sure the resolution is QVGA (320x240) not sure abt bitrate settings, sorry
Thanks a lot guys for the answers, definitely cleared some doubts.
I upgraded to Android 2.2 on my Wildfire and now I feel like a Jack Ass !
This topic cleared many of my doubts as well.....Since I am also new to Android !
Thanks for the help !
I have just had to uninstall windows 8 and dropped back to vista flash 11 in 64 bit keeps giving syntax errors and flash is not working?
Any help because if can get flash working will go back to 8.
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flash isn't working in immersive
but it does in desktop mode
Thank you, so I removed it for nothing, I was un aware it did not work in immersive. Shall re insta ll probably tomorrow now, hopefully someone works out how to get it working in immersive soon. Until. Then I thank you.
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Microsoft Mentioned that IE10-immersive is completely HTML5 no plugin support at all.. So like it was said.. Desktop Version is the same as all the others with full support
So how comes opera 12 is html 5 yet supports flash (then again only 32bit app) Shame immersive does not support flash yet. I'm sure rtm version or a beta will have a Microsoft version of flash built in instead of 3rd party due to lack of add on support
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^ no. Not at all.
Actually, that is not so bad. You will not get flash ads and other bloat that just slows down loading and browsing, but if you want to see flash video, there is "view in desktop mode" button.
yeah. IE immersive wont support flash. so there wont be anyway to get it, specially for arm tablets. no ads and no "you need flash to see this video" yeah not cool for Facebook games, but usually video sites are getting html5 and flash.
but if you are like "how i will see YouTube videos if links open in immersive"
if you win + i or go to settings with charm in IE immersive you can go to "default view links for" and you can tell IE to open links in desktop.
^ that option still wont have flash on ARM. The ARM version will not support it.
I think desktop IE on ARM will still support plugins. It's up to adobe to decide if they will develop flash for Windows ARM.
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^ that option still wont have flash on ARM. The ARM version will not support it.
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and im not saying it would support it.
are you running Windows dev preview on arm? no, like everyone else. so i dont care about ARM.
but some people dont know you can change the way IE opens links. you know people who will complain how new UI sucks and they dont even explore enough to know how to open links in IE desktop.
the only thing Adobe has talked about is flash based apps in win8 via AIR.
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the only thing Adobe has talked about is flash based apps in win8 via AIR.
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Well, we won't know that. Like we all know, the developer preview is not completely perfect. It's not even near to good.
The Metro browser doesn't support flash, and there are no plans to support it or any other plugins, but there was a lot of negative feedback at BUILD from the developers about the inconsistent browsing experience (in 1 on 1 sessions with microsoft)..
Perhaps flash could be implemented (maybe with cooperation from Adobe) at some point in the future; good or bad, flash is an currently important part of the web.
Let me start off by saying I am not a developer. And Im not too familiar with Linux either. Just goes to show that this isnt too difficult
To get ubuntu on the Atrix please go here first:
[MOD] Full Linux (Debian) inside WebTop! v0.2.6 [2011/07/07] [14.15 GMT+2:00] - xda-developers
Follow the steps. Must have CMW installed, rooted etc.
I was unsuccessful with webtop2sd. You might have good results with it, but for me it didnt.
Once you flash this cmw file, reboot you phone and enter into webtop (if you need the HDMI hack, you will find that on XDA). You will now see 3 new icons. Leafpad, Lxterminal, and a penguin. Click on the penguin, and you it will say found image. Click ok.
If your unfamiluar with linux, this will look french to you. Once it launches (the first time after reboot will take some time, be patient). Hit enter, enter again and scroll down to Shells, then hit enter on Bash. Now this is where the fun begins.
Enter synaptic. If that doesnt work you might need to install it. apt-get install synaptic. After thats opened search for gnome-panel, right click and select "mark for installation". Hit apply and go for a coffee. This will take a long time, and make sure your on wifi. This is a huge download.
Here is a list of working applications so far :
Epiphany web browser
Epiphany IM
Evolution Mail
Iceweasle
AbiWord
GNU image manipulation
All of the games
Im working on getting usb-to-ethernet dongle working.I can see it, just cant get access to it.
Almost all of the pre-installed applications with gnome work. EXCEPT sound. This is driving me nuts. I am unable to find a sound driver (gstreamer) that works. If anyone here figures it out let me know. And if anyone out there have programs that work let me know. I can always add it to the list. Im very green to Linux, and just playing around at this point. Im no developer, and most of your questions can be answered on XDA forums.
I have the same setup, and you can add openoffice.org and geany packages to the "functional" list. I use openoffice's writer every day and have found no missing functions. Geany is working, but does not build and compile, so it's basically a color-coded text editor (still useful for note-taking my language classes). I did NOT use synaptic to get these. I simply used the bash script (in the same manner you described for your synaptic install) to apt-get install openoffice.org and geany respectively. Nice thread,
-omni
Where you able to get sound working??
g2tegg said:
Where you able to get sound working??
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My sound through the Webtop is functional, yes. I'm not sure if you were talking about gnome-specific apps (I wouldn't know, because I'm not using gnome panel), but anything through mobile view or iceweasel (not including flash) plays stereo through the Webtop. I didn't do anything special to get it working, it always just has. I hope you figure out your problem.
-omni
With epiphany did you encounter a problem where it uses xulrunner-1.9.2 instead of xulrunner-1.9 and fails to start the gecko engine? The epiphany version that is available through synaptic after fixing apt-get dependencies and sources uses xul1.9 once and works right then uses xul1.9.2 every time after that and fails. Epiphany lists both xul versions as deps so i, unsuccessfully, tried to lock xul1.9 and install a fake xul1.9.2. Any help would be awesome.
I did manage to make Webtop2SD work after I created a 4 GB partition on my ExtSD through Webtop2sd partitioning tool.
Here's what I got working (installed through Synaptic):
XFCE4 (full suite)
OpenOffice
GIMP
EPDFViewer
Fillezilla FTP client
VLC Media Player (marginal results)
Ristretto Image viewer
ABE's Amazing Adventure (game with full working sound)
I was hoping to have some sort of ScummVM, MAME and SNES emulator to run, but unfortunately they don't even after a successfull install.
Cheers!
Rayan
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@ g2tegg
I know it's a bit late for commenting lol. And probably my post may be off-topic. But was your issue the <no sound coming from HDTV via HDMI> one?
I also had this issue in webtop going on for like 3 months (like flashing and reflashing webtop to no end), until I stumbled upon this Motorola forum:
h**p://supportforums.motorola.com/message/330591#330591
(had to mod link because I didn't reach the minimum amounts of posts to allow links -_-)
Basically, if you switch display resolution to anything other than 1280x720, sound will not redirect to HDTV. And as for me, after switching to 1280x720, I had to reboot my Atrix in order to finally have sound . No need to find for drivers.
My sound would work within the Webtop apps from Motorola. But if I wanted to use a Linux MP3 player, watch a video etc there would be no sound. Kept getting a gstreamer error.
Hi g2tegg,
I have Atrix with iBlur ROM. I installed the WebTopMOD zip file using CWM and have the folder with linux image in sdcard-ext. But when I reboot the phone and plg it in Atrix Lapdock I don't see the icons like: penguin etc.
Could you please help.
Got it working !!
katlimaal said:
Hi g2tegg,
I have Atrix with iBlur ROM. I installed the WebTopMOD zip file using CWM and have the folder with linux image in sdcard-ext. But when I reboot the phone and plg it in Atrix Lapdock I don't see the icons like: penguin etc.
Could you please help.
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Try to reflash the webtop and then the mod again. There is a thread in the developers area I believe called webtop mod v1 or something like that. When I get the chance I will try to dig it up. Driving in a snowstorm at the moment slightly hinders my searchability haha. Good ol Ontario I tell ya
quick question: are these persistent? can I make a desktop icon for these or do I have to apt-get them everytime?
seems counter intuitive to not be able to "hard" install the applications
V DidDy 210 said:
quick question: are these persistent? can I make a desktop icon for these or do I have to apt-get them everytime?
seems counter intuitive to not be able to "hard" install the applications
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You dont have to apt-get everytime. The installed applications are on either the phones hard drive or the SD card. Only thing you will have to do is start the gnome panel every session, which is easy enough.
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You dont have to apt-get everytime. The installed applications are on either the phones hard drive or the SD card. Only thing you will have to do is start the gnome panel every session, which is easy enough.
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Yeah after tinkering with them for enough time I figured that out!
only question is how do I figure out where they are located on my phone? I can't find a DEBIAN folder anywhere on my device (sd or sd-ext) my webtopmod folder is on my internal storage btw
thanks for the response!
If you use webtopmod's debian chroot (the white shell) they'll be in the linuxdisk file, as it's actualy a filesystem in itself. You won't be able to 'directly' access them. I recommend switching to webtop2SD. I didnt' want to, but everything is native that way and most things run better anyways, I installed xfce4 and got rid of that stupid awn dock at the bottom and put in a little bar. Now it feels like linux!
My apps so far:
OpenOffice 3
XChat
rdesktop (doesn't work, keymap doesn't work)
gimp (not used yet)
Any other useful ones people know of? I don't need an email client... the phone's gmail app is sufficient enough, and if I need more support I'll just use gmail. Kind of wish I could get an updated firefox, or a tun/tap module so i could use hamachi.
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If you use webtopmod's debian chroot (the white shell) they'll be in the linuxdisk file, as it's actualy a filesystem in itself. You won't be able to 'directly' access them. I recommend switching to webtop2SD. I didnt' want to, but everything is native that way and most things run better anyways, I installed xfce4 and got rid of that stupid awn dock at the bottom and put in a little bar. Now it feels like linux!
My apps so far:
OpenOffice 3
XChat
rdesktop (doesn't work, keymap doesn't work)
gimp (not used yet)
Any other useful ones people know of? I don't need an email client... the phone's gmail app is sufficient enough, and if I need more support I'll just use gmail. Kind of wish I could get an updated firefox, or a tun/tap module so i could use hamachi.
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I installed chromium, and it's running smoother than firefox ever did. Haven't really had a reason to install anything else, but i think i'm gonna get fxce4 because the current dock at the bottom annoys me
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^yeah after using it exclusively for the past day or so it's quite capable but I can also see the limitations of debian through chroot. I'd ideally like to get rid of the webtop all together and just have kde or gnome (i'm not picky, xcfe4 would work for me too)
but I'm assuming if I do webtop2sd I can have ubuntu with gnome installed no problem?
I went through the process of putting all of my gnuSTEP icons on the webtop and it's very much like my current gnuSTEP machine (supremely capable btw when using a debian core) I haven't run into any real problems using the chroot method, save for not being able to put shortcuts on the AWN bar and the occasional, but when I get my lapdock in the mail and start exclusively using this when I'm out and about I'll look into doing webtop2sd. I need to get a bigger sd card too, I have a 16 but I'd rather have a 32 external only for webtop and the 10 or so internal for android I don't listen to music on my android (I own a zune) so 10 should be plenty to just have apps and android
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I installed chromium, and it's running smoother than firefox ever did. Haven't really had a reason to install anything else, but i think i'm gonna get fxce4 because the current dock at the bottom annoys me
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Did you use the jaunty hack to get chromium working?
I successfully installed chromium but every page loads for a second and then crashes. I didn't really look into the chromium hack (I don't think I use jaunty for anything and synaptic/apt-get can get all the repositories I need) but it seemed intensive especially to get flash.
I've found that while firefox has FANTASTIC flash support (like, really good and speedy, no chops) I just end up using konqueror for regular internet tasks. I can't seem to get it to install flash (I don't know how to install .deb packages) but it's speedy for other things and makes an excellent file manager
If you could get chromium without 2.3.5 i'd get it... but 2.3.5 offers what appear to be no benefits at all, correct?
Just kinda scared to have to rebuild from a bricked phone.
Trolling from my ATRIX 4G's XDA premium app, still on the gold medal winner of worst customer satisfaction for the second year in a row! Congrats!
I upgraded to 2.3.5 it has the new firefox, it runs fine from what I've seen
I'm trying to install synaptic by "apt-get install synaptic", but it shows several "Failed to fetch http://ftp.debian.org/debian/......" messages.
How can I fix this?