I have had my 3rd Captivate die and AT&T is offering me a model swap. The Xperia is one of the options along with the Aria and Backflop.
Question is... Should I swap for the Xperia or stick with the Captivate?
How is Froyo going for the Xperia? I know it will never officially be released, but also understand that ROMS are currently being developed. It looks like a great device, just looking for some advice that will seal the deal.
Thanks
no froyo for us, it's what we know unless it's a surprise
idk but you'd outdated in few month if u pick this phone (arc is coming)
Stick with samsung.
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There are alot of information around the net enough to tell you about the pros and cons of the phone.
Go do an extensive research and read them up before deciding whether Rachael is for you.
Don't want you to buy and regret, ending up whine and complain like the kids here. =/
If you like the phone, buy. If not, try a HTC.
There definitely was never a 2.2 and will never be, although people have been in denial for half a year. Still, 2.1 is enough for me (Live Wallpapers rock!)
IMHO the x10 has only two flaws.
1.. impossible to have a call in a noisy environment. You can't be heard and you can't hear them either. Noise canceling bt makes this moot.
2.. SE and ATT have screwed the customer with a unusually short life span. This phone is going EOL in March.
If you don't play games or need multitouch and are willing to root and put a Generic SE rom to get 2.1 now it's a pretty good pocket pda and gps and social networking device. Doesn't have all the video codecs of the Captivate or stereo speakers or N wireless. Of these I only wish for N wireless since home and office are N, and I pull out my x10 all the time to check stuff when not in front of a desktop.
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I've already been through this....ditched my x10 for captivate.....then I quickly ditched the captivate for my x10 back. Don't get caught up in the hype of the captivate....the phone isn't all that.
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1. take a look of my signature
2. my advice: stick with captivate or you'll be kicking yourself
It depends - Captivate is faster(much more responsive) and is getting froyo soon in the US. But, it looks exxtremely ugly compared to the x10. SE have spent a lot of time to get everything looking very good, and i think this is why the phone lags at times. Also, the SAMOLED screen might look nice,but it drains the battery really quickly.
In the end, its up to you: Speed vs Reliability and beauty
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It depends - Captivate is faster(much more responsive) and is getting froyo soon in the US. But, it looks exxtremely ugly compared to the x10. SE have spent a lot of time to get everything looking very good, and i think this is why the phone lags at times. Also, the SAMOLED screen might look nice,but it drains the battery really quickly.
In the end, its up to you: Speed vs Reliability and beauty
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Super AMoled drains battery? Sorry beg to differ my Samsung Galaxy S (INT) gives me 2 days of battery life where X10 dies within a day easy! Super Amoled technology is to save ur battery not the other way... !! Oh and captivate got froyo long time back if u do modding!
Captivate any day!
I wouldn't touch the Captivate with a 10 foot pole.
X10, easily.
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Super AMoled drains battery? Sorry beg to differ my Samsung Galaxy S (INT) gives me 2 days of battery life where X10 dies within a day easy! Super Amoled technology is to save ur battery not the other way... !! Oh and captivate got froyo long time back if u do modding!
Captivate any day!
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Well my X10's battery lasts longer than my friend's captivate... I even use it more than her.. for twitter, fb etc
Also forgot to mention, iPhone ripoff
As some said :
Captivate : More responsive
Soon getting 2.2 Official (yes i know there are 2.2 around custom roms)
Faster
SAmoled screen(Which if you use white screens,it will drain your battery alot)
Xperia :
Looks alot more prettier
Not getting 2.2 official but we got 2.3 in a custom rom(Not completed yet tho)
Alot prettier UI and very Premium feel (Makes one feel safe with his money spent)
Not as fast as the Captivate (Unless you get for exemple the kX10 rom which IS as fast as a captivate and its very complete 2.1)
So personally,my gf has the SGS and its fast but she carries her charger everywhere and i also hate the plasticly look,where my battery lasted a week and a half once with very low usage and it looks alot better.
Your choice mate, Power over Beauty. (Btw the power aint that different,the SGS is probably around 15% better ,not much more.)
I have both. Samsung ftw. Ur going to hate the cheap plastic screen. Se should have gone with gorilla...
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I was also offered x10a by ATT as a replacement for Captivate. If it wasn't for xda, I would be kicking and screaming at ATT. No matter what xda can do, knowing now that ATT isn't updating to 2.1 should be enough to say no. Not to mention,the Number One x10a issue with no solution... LOW VOLUME! After all the goodies from xda, I still can't use my phone as a phone. For that reason alone, I would never recommend the x10.
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Wow are you serious?
None of those phones are even a side-grade from the captivate.
Tell them you're gonna troop t but want an atrix 4g on march 1st lol
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Hi to all Canadian users
Samsung Galaxy S series phone is coming to Canada very soon. Almost all the carriers has one. I am with rogers and they are getting the captivate.
I am really really tired of waiting for 2.1 /2.2 or just getting all the bugs fixed. There is no 65K screen, no multi touch (please don't start arguing that there is no use of MT, there are other forums for that). I don't even know how many other stuffs I should be complaining about....someone cares to fill them!
So yeah I am jumping the ship when Captivate comes to Rogers. Anyone else wanna join??
I personally think the samsung captivate lacks in style, and It's samsung you wouldn't get great support either. I ready stick with S.E design is much better.
Why did you buy x10 if you knew it had 1.6 firmware...
Its your choice my friend just look in the Samsung Galaxy S forum before you decide to buy it. Apparently there is a lot of people unhappy with it, problems like overheating, sluggish performance, burn ins on the screen, fast battery drain, bad build quality (cheap plastic) and lots of other things. I am also in Canada and looked at it as an option but i came to the conclusion that it wont be better than the x10 or at least not worth the switch. The fact that its a Samsung phone puts me away also, oh and no flash or light for the camera? wtf. Anyway make sure you read all the problems that people have with it before you buy it so that you know what you re getting into.
Yah im looking into the vibrant myself. Then again im also thinking about the n900 still. Going to check a bell store tomorrow to try out the vibrant. The screen looks amazing in all the reviews ive seen. Really gotta check it out.
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Not a bad phone but i would say, wait a few weeks and after the launch take the decision.
It does some things better than the X10 (faster, multitouch, froyo), it does some things worse (no LED flash, IMO worse screen, worse build quality, poor support).
Just make sure you know the phone before you buy it. You probably won't regret it, but it's not any significant improvement (aside from OS)...
Look, if someone with a Desire or a Galaxy S wants to do a straight trade, then I am sold, but I am not going to go through the hassle of selling my X10, then forking over an extra $250 to get either one of those.
At that rate, I'd rather have the iPhone 4 (no reception issues with any that I've tested in Vancouver).
I would hop on the train as well, but I do not like the physical built of the captivate... If it was the i9000 or vibrant, I would have switched. I'm a sucker for Super AMOLED, I rarely use my phone outside, I always use it inside.
i would stick with x10 . i played with galaxy s today at bell . its a nice phone but the built quality is really bad and worse technical support and no flash . x10 is getting 2.1 end of month or early september so its not long of a wait. and iphone 4 is out of the question with consumer report rated it *dont buy it* u cant do much with it even u jailbreak it there there is alot of restrictions n stuff u cant do and android os u can customize the sh**t of out it . i did a test on iphone 4 and my x10 and x10 loads quicker and faster . even i was soo frustrated about to sell it. but u cant sell it for much so id rather keep it . the only phone i would get other then x10 would be desire . which is coming to telus august 6th
I would probably stay out of it.Checking out the forums. It drops a lot of calls and has some major GPS and lag issues. Of course, if you want to go by numbers you should go for the Captivate given it has a higher version of the OS installed. I have used the i9000 though and except for the screen, which is gorgeous, there isnt much there.oh and touchwiz looks like it has been ported from a funskool toy.
i had a samsung pixon12, build quality was cheap, and that phone stopped working after a month even after it was brand new, samsung didnt help me at all and i had to pay extra money from the store i bought it from in order to get it repaired. after that i never went back to samsung and i dont think i will.
the x10 is nice but u are right it does have its share of problems. if ur gonna switch u might as well make a proper upgrade and go for the EVO 4G or the soon to come out Dell Streak (5 inch screen!!/1ghz processor [ also runs 1.6 but soon to get an update supposedly])
anyways im gonna stick with my x10 for now until i can get a good price on the dell streak becuase i use my phone a lot for entertainment due to commuting to university, so a 5 inch screen would do me a lot of good
i dont reccomend samsung. HTC is fantastic though ive used the TOUCH HD/touch pro 2/HD2 and was very happy with them. but hated windows mobile. dont know about dell but if i make the switch ill come back here and let u guys know how that worked out lol
hope it helps u figure out where u wanna head.
Well, this is a thread about Canadian users, so the Evo 4G is out of the question, and the iPhone 4's "reception issue" is not a problem here, at least in Vancouver.
Also, as much as the Streak intrigues me, it is basically the same hardware and software as the X10 (1.6 but without lovely Rachel), and I'm not sure it has a TRUE multi-touch panel like the Droid Incredible either.
I've yet to play with the Galaxy S, but if it is as terribly built as some of you say, then the only other viable option is the Desire, which is put together like a tank and has LED flash. Its design is pedestrian, but the thing is SOLID.
Still tho the desire is not an improve ment over the x10. Think about it smaller screen, ****ter camera, ugly at front of x10 and screen issues like pink tint, burn ins and broken dualtouch, only thing better at the moment is software and a little more ram. I dont know why people think this way, you probably dont have your x10 set up right so that you think this way, I will probably make a video of mine and show everyone how fast,smooth and beautiful it runs I just have a feeling some people dont know how to use adw right and make the best out of their phone. I mean if your ready to switch your x10 for a desire there must be somthing wrong, In matter of fact there is a lot of people here that have switched from desire to x10 ask them why they switched.
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Those screen issues affect the SLCD model? I wasn't aware of that.
Just because the screen is smaller, it doesn't make it worse since the resolutions are nearly identical.
I like the Desire because of its very solid build (have you held one?), extra RAM, and best of all, latest Android builds with HTC Sense.
That being said, the Desire is far more expensive if purchased from unauthorized dealers.
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Those screen issues affect the SLCD model? I wasn't aware of that.
Just because the screen is smaller, it doesn't make it worse since the resolutions are nearly identical.
I like the Desire because of its very solid build (have you held one?), extra RAM, and best of all, latest Android builds with HTC Sense.
That being said, the Desire is far more expensive if purchased from unauthorized dealers.
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Most likely not the one with the SLCD but still explain how is it an improvement over the x10. Just the little more ram? Or the software that we will have soon?
I still wondering why people that would like to switch from X10 to another phone, post their suffer of having X10 here. You want change then go change, no need for second opinion from us.
I buy X10 knowing its Android 1.6, know that update will takes months to come. But i buy because i like Timescape and Mediascape, which is the main selling point to X10.
At my office, i have a lot of android phone for development test phone, i have HTC Dream, LG GW 620, Nexus One, Motorola DEXT/CLIQ, Samsung Galaxy Spica and my Sony Ericsson X10. I can say some of strong point of X10 compared to the other android in list.
Prebuilt media player is nice, compared to Nexus One basic player
The phonebook looks very nice, i like the full hi-res photo in the phonebook Timescape, plus seeing the photo when some one calling or we make call
Watching video while riding public transport in 16 : 9 screen resolution, without letterbox (most of movie i watched in phone is in HD ratio)
It comes with WMV, WMA playing capability
Timecape make me easier to read multiple one or two line SMS from my friends
Slick design of web-browser compared to other phone basic browser
Great product support (except for the firmware updates) from SE, like the PlayNow, i buy some songs with it, and also TrackID.
Stuff that is missing, but can still live without it
No multiple Gmail account can be set in the phone Gmail app (love the threaded view of gmail
Picasa and Facebook photo is not cache in the phone, have to download them everytime you want to see (this decision is made, because if the all photos is prefetched, people living in country with expensive GPRS will get mad, i know because i working in mobile sector)
No multitouch, but this i can live nicely without it
No Facebook and Phonebook photo autosync like Nexus One
So that is some of my opinion of why i choose X10, i guess some of us would think the same.
One think that i bit disappointed with X10 is that first when their haven't release, i though there will be a front facing camera, a lot of website says will have one. Which turnout to be Light Sensor or Proximity Sensor. hahaha.
But can live without it anyway, even though i like making 3g video call with my GF.
Got a chance to play with Bells Vibrant. Its nice. Its really nice actually. The screen is amazing. Its easily better than the x10's. Its very light. Didnt feel cheap to me, just insanely light. I guess to some that means cheap. The ui is too iphone like to me. But I guess we can always change that. I like the front facing camera on it, we all know this will start being used now that apple has told everyone they should use it. Also like the tvout function. Im definetely tempted to get it.
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Still tho the desire is not an improve ment over the x10. Think about it smaller screen, ****ter camera, ugly at front of x10 and screen issues like pink tint, burn ins and broken dualtouch, only thing better at the moment is software and a little more ram. I dont know why people think this way, you probably dont have your x10 set up right so that you think this way, I will probably make a video of mine and show everyone how fast,smooth and beautiful it runs I just have a feeling some people dont know how to use adw right and make the best out of their phone. I mean if your ready to switch your x10 for a desire there must be somthing wrong, In matter of fact there is a lot of people here that have switched from desire to x10 ask them why they switched.
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Mind telling me how you set up your adw? Thanks
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The Captivate is a nice phone, the best of the Galaxy S versions, it steals its looks from the X10 I would say, but I would never give up the X10's screen and camera. AMOLED? No thanks, HTC is finally abandoning those screens. Plus we're getting 2.1 the next month at the latest, and from what I know we can expect further upgrades fairly soon after.
As an aside I don't use the built in Gmail app, I find the web version is much better, is the Gmail app on 2.1 better then the one in 1.6?
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Most likely not the one with the SLCD but still explain how is it an improvement over the x10. Just the little more ram? Or the software that we will have soon?
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It's in the software, man I like HTC Sense. Rachel is nice, but not with 1.6. The Desire should get 2.2 by the time that we get 2.1. Bear in mind, I have no "desire" to sell my X10 for a Desire, but I do admire its build. It feels REALLY solid.
I have fallen in love with the X10 since it was leaked last year. Its the only phone I think the ui is sexy. I have a mytouch slide I like it but wouldn't mind an X10 for a while. I have dug thru the forums for this phone and I see it has some issues and I don't see any roms for it yet. Since I'm on tmo usa I will have to wait for a unlocked phone to come about. My questions are:
how is the performance?
Are there really that many issues or are a few select people having problems?
And are there any devs on working on this phone?
I know the update to 2.1 is taking awhile cause the ui and I don't expect sony to give it froyo but maybe some dev will. Thanks guys.
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yes there are issues with X10 now but you can wait until update, at present it has 1.6 android which is out of date buit soon sony Xperia X10 is getting 2.1
you should wait until then and if you can not wait then its better to go for motorola droid x or desire they both are good phones with good screens, multitouch ( for games etc ) and good call volumes latest android
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I have fallen in love with the X10 since it was leaked last year. Its the only phone I think the ui is sexy. I have a mytouch slide I like it but wouldn't mind an X10 for a while. I have dug thru the forums for this phone and I see it has some issues and I don't see any roms for it yet. Since I'm on tmo usa I will have to wait for a unlocked phone to come about. My questions are:
how is the performance?
Are there really that many issues or are a few select people having problems?
And are there any devs on working on this phone?
I know the update to 2.1 is taking awhile cause the ui and I don't expect sony to give it froyo but maybe some dev will. Thanks guys.
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Frankly speaking X10 is not as good as it was 2 months back........back then there were no option,now you have better alternatives.....starting with Galaxy s,Droid 2 ,Droid X and whole lot lot of bunch
P.S If you really want to stand out from the crowd get a White X10
Every phone with its weakness, X10 with low call volume(ok for me),1.6 OS, no MT(not needed for me),but the others have their issue too just like the Samsung Galaxy with the GPS signal(losing it).
So if you can live with the X10's so called ''problems'' it is a great device,if not then buy something else.
Can't say the other phone doesn't have issue either.
everything have feature that other phone doesn't. I personally don't see xperia 10 is behind on other phones because it is using a personalized android 1.6 vs 2.2 which have nothing desirable for me.
the 3 major feature you will miss are
720 recording - which i am sure you can live without it.
16 million colour - once again, my eyes can't tell the differences. that well to even brother.
flash - xperia 10 can watch flash enable media ( can watch flash movie @ tudou.com) but can't use them (as menu or web content) with skyfire.
i have no idea why that akshay insist it have low call volumne, i think his phone is busted or he got 1 of those millionth faulty one. I personally have no problem calling out or hearing people talks on my phone unless i am in an heavy noisy area that i can't even hear someone shout @ 1M away.
There are app that can hack your speaker i think if you rooted on the market.
Mind you, if you compare the latest phone you will only found them having
1. 2.1 or 2.2 soon
2. a front camera for video conference, (i live in canada, no one use smart phone with front camera here)
3. larger screen by 0.1 inch
4. 16 million color but worser camera.
5. If you didn't know 90% of those phone can't use under bright sun, but guess what, Xperia 10 CAN.
6. they are all "black", but mine is WHITE and have great design http://seinsider.com/?p=2525 If i will find a way to get one of those later and show off.
7. I like sony, i like having a sony brivia x2, sony ps3, a sony BR, a sony dog, and ...no i don't like sony laptops.
If you are like me that like the design and the white X10 when I first saw the pics of it last November, then I say, go for it. When it came out of the market last March, I said to myself, I'll wait for it to get the latest Android 2.1 and buy it. Big Mistake! I was not satisfied with the other phone that I bought, so after three months of using that phone, I got bored with it, and finally bought X10. Now, I'm using the X10 only, and only once in a while, use the other one. I can never be happier...
Thanks for all the replies. Glad to see people are happy with the phone. 1.6 is not a deal breaker for me. And yes if I buy one definitely the white one has my eye. I can careless for froyo cause I had froyo on my mytouch slide. Nothing I won't miss. I think I will head to a at&t store and play with one. Thanks for the link awesome shells. Anymore thoughts are welcomed.
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I have the White X10i, its been great for me so far! The battery life is really good, the camera is awesome and the interface is a pleasure to use!
In regards to the 2.1 update that we are all longing after so much, the only thing I would really embrace with open arms is the ability to record video in 720p!.
just fyi in case you missed it, the X10i has 3G banding for T-Mobile, and the X10a has the banding for AT&T. Also I thought AT&T is only selling the black version? So from what I understand you want, you should buy an unlocked white X10i off the net.
X10 is great, best looking phone on the market and best camera in an Android phone. Screen resolution is awesome, videos etc are not as vibrant as AMOLED or Super AMOLED screen sure, but text is sharper and being usable in sunlight is a huge plus. For Canadians I think it's the best overall Android option still, you guys have a lot more choices down south and I can't say the same. Froyo is huge regardless of your experience, SE has done a lot to make 1.6 good, but it's shoddy customization isn't enough at this point in the game compared to all the 2.2 offerings on the market now.
If I were you I would wait a few more weeks until you know what that big HSPA+ device for T-Mo is before making any big purchases
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just fyi in case you missed it, the X10i has 3G banding for T-Mobile, and the X10a has the banding for AT&T. Also I thought AT&T is only selling the black version? So from what I understand you want, you should buy an unlocked white X10i off the net.
X10 is great, best looking phone on the market and best camera in an Android phone. Screen resolution is awesome, videos etc are not as vibrant as AMOLED or Super AMOLED screen sure, but text is sharper and being usable in sunlight is a huge plus. For Canadians I think it's the best overall Android option still, you guys have a lot more choices down south and I can't say the same. Froyo is huge regardless of your experience, SE has done a lot to make 1.6 good, but it's shoddy customization isn't enough at this point in the game compared to all the 2.2 offerings on the market now.
If I were you I would wait a few more weeks until you know what that big HSPA+ device for T-Mo is before making any big purchases
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I remember a X10 passing thru with tmo bands last year but never of it again. Thanks for the info. From the articles I have read the HSPA+ device is probably gonna be the mytouch hd. Ill pass on that. But I will do research the X10I. Thanks again.
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How much storage space is there for apps?
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500mb or 1 GB i think, but the canadian version all came with a 16gb SD micro. I don't really have many large apps beside co-pilot with 3 gb maps.
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500mb or 1 GB i think, but the canadian version all came with a 16gb SD micro. I don't really have many large apps beside co-pilot with 3 gb maps.
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X10I has 384mb ram from one source I have read. My slide has 512mb ram and only 145mb partitioned for apps.
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He never asked about the ram.
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He never asked about the ram.
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How do u like ur x10i?
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I love mine -it's the dogs cogs.. There's 1Gb of Memory but it's use is restricted by Android 1.6.. so at the moment it's using... Download Cache - 111Mb; Data - 465Mb; RAM - 268Mb. (reading directly from Android System Info app)
Youre better off buying an unlock iphone or waits for the sony ericsson psp2 because the x10 is rather slow and no brand name app.
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With gadgetry it's unpossible to form an opinion just by reading specs and reviews. When you look at the specs of the X10 it's a good phone, when you look at the software versions it's a poor phone. But the most important part, the feel, you'll have to find out yourself.
When I replaced my iPhone with my X10 I was a "smart shopper" and tried out many different devices, usually I just grab what looks cool. My favourites were the X10, Touch HD2 (I know, but I liked the hardware) and the Desire. The Touch HD2 fell out of the running pretty quickly since it runs WinMo and I wanted Android.
The Desire is a really nice phone, it's got good hardware and it runs Android but it had a few problems. First off the screen is pretty poor. The colours are great but it's way too fuzzy for my taste. The general solidity, or feel, was also pretty bad. It's feels too plastic and cheap for my taste.
The X10 felt slightly sluggish and bogged down, but since it's software I figured I could fix that pretty easily which I did. The Android version worried me at first but some investigation turned up that the differences between this custom 1.6 and the HTC version of 2.0 were pretty minimal. In the end I went for the X10 because it has a way better screen, it has a more solid feel to it and a pretty nice camera.
This was a few months ago but no new phones have really caught my eye, most look too non-descript or iPhone-like for my taste.
There's my reasoning, hope it helps.
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With gadgetry it's unpossible to form an opinion just by reading specs and reviews. When you look at the specs of the X10 it's a good phone, when you look at the software versions it's a poor phone. But the most important part, the feel, you'll have to find out yourself.
When I replaced my iPhone with my X10 I was a "smart shopper" and tried out many different devices, usually I just grab what looks cool. My favourites were the X10, Touch HD2 (I know, but I liked the hardware) and the Desire. The Touch HD2 fell out of the running pretty quickly since it runs WinMo and I wanted Android.
The Desire is a really nice phone, it's got good hardware and it runs Android but it had a few problems. First off the screen is pretty poor. The colours are great but it's way too fuzzy for my taste. The general solidity, or feel, was also pretty bad. It's feels too plastic and cheap for my taste.
The X10 felt slightly sluggish and bogged down, but since it's software I figured I could fix that pretty easily which I did. The Android version worried me at first but some investigation turned up that the differences between this custom 1.6 and the HTC version of 2.0 were pretty minimal. In the end I went for the X10 because it has a way better screen, it has a more solid feel to it and a pretty nice camera.
This was a few months ago but no new phones have really caught my eye, most look too non-descript or iPhone-like for my taste.
There's my reasoning, hope it helps.
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Thank u for the reply. I think the difference between 1.6 and 2.0 isn't a big deal to me either. I have 2.1 now but don't Ming having 1.6 again. Now that I know there is one with tmo bands and I can still get 3g makes me want the phone more.
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I had it and it wasn't that great, should wait for the bootloader to become unlocked.
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GUYS I am really desperate I want to buy a new phone on Monday and I am totally lost as to what I should get. I finally figured out two phones I would like to get. Either the DHD or the SGS. They both have there ups and downs, and its really really really hard to pick one lol... u cant imagine how hard it is. Could you perhaps give me some advice as to what I should buy please? I would really appreciate it !!!!
If you search the forum you'll see there is already a thread for this.
I want my own
Do you mean sgh i9000 I can't find a phone called sgs i9000
I mean Samsung galaxy s i9000 aka SGS
I think you should definitely go for the DHD.. more ups than downs better quality (metal) SGS is plastic and simply looks like a old Iphone... blah bla... HTC rocks!
period!
Yep but it's full of bugs and badly made (battery and sim cover) upside however is HTC release fixes quicker and android upgrades quicker than most.
Problems at present are the laggyness, sim and battery cover issues, crashes on market, not so good camera, reboots occasdionally
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I mean Samsung galaxy s i9000 aka SGS
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Galaxy S for form factor, display Super Amoled best ever seen, because 10 millions people have it now and more and more will have later and will have the best support ever (XDA rulez, and if you see now there are some ROM which make it incredible fast and no lagg or crash, even better than Nexus One)
Than you can wait for Nexus Two
You will spend less to have the best in market now.
Why cant people just look in the freaking forum or use the search bar,theres already a thread about this..
Don't have all those problems no lagging no occasionally reboots.. crashes on market are true but not anymore now I can download and install all apps want fluently..
The sim cover is indeed a little bit of poor quality but I use a silicone case which compensate it.
truly, the design of the sim cover is good as it allows quick access to your SD and sim without having to remove the battery.
And about the battery... if you use your phone correct then there is no need to remove the battery.
Camera is perfect for stills in all conditions (yes also in the dark, due the dual-LED flash) Recording mode is good in good conditions but in the dark you can record while the dual-LED flash light is still on.. the quality isn't that perfect but it is good for me...
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Galaxy S for form factor, display Super Amoled best ever seen, because 10 millions people have it now and more and more will have later and will have the best support ever (XDA rulez, and if you see now there are some ROM which make it incredible fast and no lagg or crash, even better than Nexus One)
Than you can wait for Nexus Two
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I am reeeeally hoping to see a Nexus Two or Nexus S as some call it at the Samsung event tomorrow, but some sources say that it is being delayed due to a hardware issue so is it worth the wait lol?
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I am reeeeally hoping to see a Nexus Two or Nexus S as some call it at the Samsung event tomorrow, but some sources say that it is being delayed due to a hardware issue so is it worth the wait lol?
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no those are bullshits, don't worry
Gingerbread is coming and google + samsung will be announced very soon, remember of gingerbread in googleplex
best Hardware (Samsung) + best software Android (Google) = OWNZ
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no those are bullshits, don't worry
Gingerbread is coming and google + samsung will be announced very soon, remember of gingerbread in googleplex
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If that is in fact true then I will be ssoooo god damn happy lol .... I think god watches over me or something coz i was so dedicated of buying a samsung galaxy s or DHD yeterday, but whenever I wherever I looked they either had a complication or they were out of stock... I think thats a sign to wait until Nov 8th lol I swear xD
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If that is in fact true then I will be ssoooo god damn happy lol .... I think god watches over me or something coz i was so dedicated of buying a samsung galaxy s or DHD yeterday, but whenever I wherever I looked they either had a complication or they were out of stock... I think thats a sign to wait until Nov 8th lol I swear xD
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11 November
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11 Nov Gingerbread release or the Nexus S release? But if it was the nexus S release then why would they bother making 2 events 3 days apart wouldn't it be more logical to announce everything on one day?
I had to make this choice a couple of weeks ago and went for the HD, not regretting it at all.
I'm not noticing any of the 'downsides' mentioned here (slowdowns, reboots etc).
True the battery and sim covers are fiddly and spoil the initial unboxing experience as you need to open them both to get your device working, but once you've got them back on (which there's a knack to) you need never touch them again and the rest of the phones build quality is excellent, the SGS felt very plastic to me when I tried it out.
Put it this way, my Steve Jobs worshiping flatmate said it's as good as his iPhone 4 which is a BIG admission from him... almost had a tear in his eye as he said it
I sold my SGS for DHD
I sold my SGS and got the DHD.
Now I wonder It wasnt really necessary. Screen on Galaxy S is really awesome.
DHD's screen is good. very crisp text but not as good as Super Amoled.
Speakers on Galaxy S is nice on the other hand speakars are just pure pathetic on DHD. I cant hear a while playing youtube videos. You have to uses the headphone.
I think problem with the camera on DHD is software issue. Needs upgrading. To be honest 5 MP SGS takes better picture than DHD in a well lit environment.
To make things clear. Issues with DHD.
1. Awful speakers
2.Bad camera software (hope its not hardware)
3. Battery and sim lid could have been better but ok for me.
4. Flash videos are laggy. ( Was better on SGS after the last Froyo update)
Now things to consider to get DHD-
1.Living on the fast lane (lol 1600+ score on quadrant)
2. big screen (black level not as good as SGS)
3. Feels solid than SGS. Good build except as mentioned above.
3. HTC sense.com experience. ( really good)
4.More frequent update than Samsung.
So cant think of anything for the time being
Also had to make this choice.
I simply held both phones in either hand, the DHD felt like it was worth something, the SGS felt like it was worth £140 + £10 top up on PAYG.
The SGS is a brilliant phone, but its light, plastic and feels cheaply made - it doesn't have that premium feel you want your nice new expensive phone to have
And the DHD screens a monster, all my iPhone 4 friends love playing Angry Birds on the mammoth screen.
I guess it's settled then... Unless Samsung comes out with the Nexus S in the near future I will be getting the DHD. Thank you guys for helping me !!!
Just get an iphone 4 best phone ever desire hd and galaxy s are terrible ;D
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i had sensation as second phone so i would like to share my feelings.
I purchased this flagship from HTC having HTC desire S, and also HD. Desire S is owned by my wife atm and she is happy enough. so i like HTC - thats for start
First feelings - impressed- nice phone. Got it - charged to full and lets rock!
Booting and starting to check out system. after 1 hour with screen on + wifi my battery went down to 35% - i say ok its the first cycle lets wait. - after one week its the same. if u wanna watch movie in plane while flying for about 2 hours u better take spare battery - not saying there is no divx support at all.
- keeping sync on gmail and just stand by eats the battery about 10% a hour! not touching the device at all.
-i though ok, lets live with pure battery anyway. but then it started. while holding the phone in landscape - death grip is saying HELLLOOOO i am here! loosing conectivity is normal - wifi disapear - signal went down 2. amazing. i coudlnt believe it. i had never suffered from anything like that -talking about HTC.
-web browsing - no hardware acerelation at all means opening web sites with heavy flash content is taking ages. not mentioning zoom in or out during the stream. while SGS2 can keep streaming during the zooming interval without any lags or issues! i was disapointed a badly. i can see small plus with the resolution - u can feel small diference - i mean better - sharper pages. but not brigther or lighter - the display is so reflective that u can use it as mirror and using the phone under direct sunnlight is almost impossible. so one more +handy mirror
someone rings you? hm how can u hear the phone if the volume set on max is extremly low - even my dog cant hear it!!! if u wanna share some youtube video with your friends they gotta put thems ears on the back panel in order to enjoy it. another disapointment - a big one. not speaking about the quality of the speaker (poor anyway) its about the noise level - being extremly low.
i said ok i like HTC so lets find something i can like/enjoy and finally be happy about.
camera/compare to SGS2 is a bit disapointing again. double flash doesnt help. i could paint better pics then sensation can make. i mean it.macro? what is it?
so i kept going and trying - still searching with hope i will like something.
i though ok i will use it as gps navigation in car at least. lol what a fail. after 4 hours on gps battery dead! maybe i am gonna develop double car charger 2in1 in order to keep sensation alive.
no i am not HTC hater at all. but the huge disapointment that HTC made this time is deadly bad. They made nice looking compact device without brain. its like ferrari with skoda engine and seats from seat. i though it will bring something extraordinary and special - even after installing costum roms - the battery improved and speed 2 - not browsing speed and the battery went up from 8 hours moderate use to 8 hours and 10 min - not mentioning juice defender on at all the times ofc.
so i just changed the sensation on local advertising web site for another SGS2 - u set the add and then meet the possible costumer in person.
and i told the guy that i made the deal with him - lets exhchange hurry - and now i will tell u what u did. U could see his frozen face! He become my friend now and after having almost all previous HTC devices he said he wont come back untill something better will be developed - on HTC side.
SO happy days guys here. And just small tip - sensation is the only one device getting closer in terms off hardware to SGS2 - but the reall power of SGS2 is deep in THE SKY!
I hope this will help some people with doubs about battery life and performance issues.
Once again - i have nothing against HTC and i like them, but i believe they didnt set up sensation well atm. looking at stats list it should perform much better then it does. just quick example - i dont like quadrant or bench tests once its fast and smooth i dont need any bench to confirm that. but the highest i could get from sensation was 3400 on quandrant with 1600 OC!!!!! lol
so i will end this with words;
HAPPY BRIGHT DAYS WITH SAMSUNG
forgive me for my broken english
Are you on drugs? None of that post made sense
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The Sensation is seeming more and more like an interim flagship. The E3D already has more RAM and from everything posted Sense 3.0 is a pig and needs all it can get. The Vigor on Verizon is going to have a full 720p display and a 1.5ghz processor. The Holiday on AT&T is going to have a 4.5" qHD display and also 1GB of RAM. By the end of the year the Sensation's going to be forgotten.
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The Sensation is seeming more and more like an interim flagship. The E3D already has more RAM and from everything posted Sense 3.0 is a pig and needs all it can get. The Vigor on Verizon is going to have a full 720p display and a 1.5ghz processor. The Holiday on AT&T is going to have a 4.5" qHD display and also 1GB of RAM. By the end of the year the Sensation's going to be forgotten.
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hm i gotta check it out.
I've only just recently jumped onto android after owning every iphone, the sensation was a handset I was considering but reviews put me off.
The two things that made me avoid it were the lack of amoled, and the apparent locked bootloader.
I never got round to playing with a sensation as the store had no demo models.
I am happy enough with my galaxy s so far though
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I've only just recently jumped onto android after owning every iphone, the sensation was a handset I was considering but reviews put me off.
The two things that made me avoid it were the lack of amoled, and the apparent locked bootloader.
I never got round to playing with a sensation as the store had no demo models.
I am happy enough with my galaxy s so far though
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yeh the bootloader is locked but u can find already few nice leaks on thems forum(sensation forum on XDA). not saying GO FOR IT but honestly at its price range and with its performance better buy SGS2 or stay with SGS1.
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yeh the bootloader is locked but u can find already few nice leaks on thems forum(sensation forum on XDA). not saying GO FOR IT but honestly at its price range and with its performance better buy SGS2 or stay with SGS1.
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How long do you think the galaxy s 2 will stay top end for?
I know technology moves quickly but I just hope I made the right decision and there's not a better phone coming out next month or something....
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How long do you think the galaxy s 2 will stay top end for?
I know technology moves quickly but I just hope I made the right decision and there's not a better phone coming out next month or something....
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If I had to guess, I'd say either a SGS2.5 or SGS3 will be out before the holidays. The Nexus 3/Prime is supposed to be out in October and the advances I mentioned above in the two HTC phones will probably prompt Samsung to release something higher end. Think about this though. They just updated and are continuing to sell a version of the SGS1 and it's been out for over a year. So the SGS2 may not be state-of-the-art by Christmas but it should still very much be current.
honestly i believe u can use SGS2 for about an year - untill another companies will reach its level. and SGS2 will last on the top untill SGS3 will be released. and the date inst confirmed yet. but SGS1 is still a good phone. if u dont have enough money or dont wanna waste it just stay where u ar and wait for bargain to upgrade.
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If I had to guess, I'd say either a SGS2.5 or SGS3 will be out before the holidays. The Nexus 3/Prime is supposed to be out in October and the advances I mentioned above in the two HTC phones will probably prompt Samsung to release something higher end. Think about this though. They just updated and are continuing to sell a version of the SGS1 and it's been out for over a year. So the SGS2 may not be state-of-the-art by Christmas but it should still very much be current.
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Thanks.
That's one thing I find overwhelming coming from apple phones, android has so many handsets running so many different versions of the operating system.
With an apple handset you're pretty much fine for a year, though you have to put up with the restrictive nature of ios.
Ah well either way I'm going to try and keep hold of this handset for 12 months, unless something really tempts me to "upgrade"
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Future life? I don't believe in reincarnation
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Not every one on these forums is a native English speaker. Go easy on the guy
I appreciate the OP's comments as I have been wondering how the HTC sensation fares compared to the SGS2. I also find it funny that the HTC battery seems to be a little worse than SGS2 especially given the complaints by some SGS2 users about battery life. I can watch about 5 hours of video on mine no problem.
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I appreciate the OP's comments as I have been wondering how the HTC sensation fares compared to the SGS2. I also find it funny that the HTC battery seems to be a little worse than SGS2 especially given the complaints by some SGS2 users about battery life. I can watch about 5 hours of video on mine no problem.
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I have the Sensation as well and the battery life on it is pretty bad. On the SGS2 with moderate to heavy use I get about 16-18 hours. WIth the Sensation it's a miracle if I get 10. There are two things about the Sensation that are better than the SGS2 and only one is of any practical significance. The first is the HTC keyboard. The auto-correct function on the HTC device is excellent and is far better than Samsung's stock keyboard. The other is weather. No one comes close to what HTC has done with their weather UI. It's nice eye candy but that's about it.
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If I had to guess, I'd say either a SGS2.5 or SGS3 will be out before the holidays. The Nexus 3/Prime is supposed to be out in October and the advances I mentioned above in the two HTC phones will probably prompt Samsung to release something higher end. Think about this though. They just updated and are continuing to sell a version of the SGS1 and it's been out for over a year. So the SGS2 may not be state-of-the-art by Christmas but it should still very much be current.
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I wouldnt know what to feel if something new and better comes out before the end of the year, If they are going nvidia quadcore (Kal-El) then its highly possible they are gonna out a 720P screen as its been in production already.. I wonder if they improved anything aside from bumping the res.
The SGS1 was the fastest phone for almost a year when it got released. NOTHING from the competition could compare when it came down to pure specs last year.
The Desire HD and iPhone 4 were the closest competition, and the SGS1 always won out in benchmarks and in IRL usage.
I would say that the SGS2 will probably not be trumped until early next year. The Nexus Prime will probably have similar innards as the SGS2
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The Desire HD and iPhone 4 were the closest competition, and the SGS1 always won out in benchmarks and in IRL usage.
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iRL usage there are some few aspects the the Iphone4 is faster but other usage scenarios the S1 was faster and was even far more functional than the Iphone4.
Im pretty sure Iphone5 will be targeted to compete with the S2, Infact I even wish the Iphone5 would be better + faster in the majority of tests so that Samsung and Google can hurry up ang release the S3 and ICS.
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Made sense to me... Just read.
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Well, well, looks like Sammy may beat the bionic to the punch. If it does, its hello gallaxy s2, goodbye moto bionic.
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Go for the SGS2! I think that is the best mobile right now
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Go for the SGS2! I think that is the best mobile right now
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+100000000 to that! best phone out there!
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+100000000 to that! best phone out there!
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I would have to agree 100% the SGSII is hands down the best phone on the market right now. And even more so with a few tweaks the speed and performance along with excellent battery life will make it #1 for a long time.
My friend just got it. It's really very light in terms of weight. Nice!
S2
Yes it is really nice. Thin and very light. It holds better in my opinion than even the Galaxy S (1). It was the European version, couldn't get it unlocked to use on US so saw no real service on it but the menu style and camera functions are similar but those small enhancements always intrigue me.
i love my Sammy GSII
I waited patiently for the dual core handsets to come out, then hesitated many times over which one to buy. Finally got my SGS2 this week and rooted next day! I must say, Terga 2 games blew my mind, streaming FLV movies on the go is finally a possibility, Touchwiz makes more sense than 'sense' and finally the color depth of the screen is second to none.
Amazing phone, i doubt i'll need to upgrade for the next 12 months
What a phone it is , I just love my GSII. Awesome work has been done by Samsung.
SGII is my dream) the q is, buy or not to buy? I think to buy)
I have it 2 weeks ago, it's great!
Agree beste phone ever
i've had mine since the uk launch day and i haven't felt any regret about paying premium on the unbranded unit one bit.
I would have preferred to purchased the 32GB version but i guess i can just upgrade to nexus prime when it get released
If you got i9000 galaxy s .. then no need for SII
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If you got i9000 galaxy s .. then no need for SII
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Care to explain? Based on my experience, GS2 was a huge improvement from GS1
That is if the US even gets the S 2 and if they ever release a CDMA version. With the way its looking and Apple being a bunch of spineless uninnovative ******* we may never see the phone.
There's been rumours that there will also be an SGS2 with hardware keyboard. As hardware keyboard-zealot... I can't wait for that one. Let's hope it won't stay a rumour though.
Its a good phone but i dont understand all the praises it gets^^ Its all plastic, it overheats, it has problems with some 3d games and the screen just looks aweful in my opinion.
Maybe im just used to LCD screens but it comes down to this for me: Advantage of the sgs2 display: Black is black. Disadvantage: All other colors are way off. White is more like light blue and no comment about the green in the android market for example.
Speaker sucks too. And dualcore is just for the lulz atm. Nothing out there that is really using it as far as i know. But it takes alot of juice. That and bad software results in 1-2 days of battery life from what i've heard in different forums.
I dont see any reason why this phone should be better than my DHD which has the same screen size also a pretty bad speaker and 1-2 days of battery life. But i prefer SLCD and aluminium case, and the software/custom roms are way more advanced.
I'll wait for the next generation Ice Cream Sandwich phones from htc or samsung. Also interesting to see what will come out of Motorola now that google bought it!
Note: I dont want to bash the SGS2, its a good phone. But i dont see it being way better than everything else. Just at least take one look at the phone before you buy it to check if the display is for you and be prepared for some software issues (touchwiz + 3d games).
i've tried it...
hello every one, I've got a SGS 1 with CM7.
It works great, even 7.1.0 is in RC....
I've used for about 20 minutes SGS 2 of a friends of mine and I've seen with my eyes the improvment that Samsung Samsung have done.
If before we compare SGS 1 with the iphone 4, the SGS 2 is clearly better than iP4.
no doubt about it.
8M camera, display AMOLED so much improved, dual core....
Hope 4 a CM7 stable for both SGS 1 and 2
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And dualcore is just for the lulz atm. Nothing out there that is really using it as far as i know. But it takes alot of juice. That and bad software results in 1-2 days of battery life from what i've heard in different forums.
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This is all I needed to read to know that you have no idea what you're talking about. 1-2 days?? Are you kidding me?? It's an Android, not a Blackberry. The DHD was maligned in every review because of poor battery life, and that poor battery life was 6-14 hours.