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MyTouch 3G Slow Response?

Hey is it normal for the mytouch to go back to the home screen kinda slow? Like, if im in the music app with music playing and then jump to the brower wile the music playing and then if I decide to hit the Home Key. The home screen takes like 2 to 4 seconds to appear.
I also notice that my IM client cant keep me signed in. Is this a android OS problem? or what?
The rom Im on is CyaMod 4.2.8.1 Which is supose to be fast and all and it is but comin from a iphone where the home screen loaded instantly is what Im kinda use to. Even on WinMobile phones the home screen loads rather instantly.
Any advice?
Thanks?

you can can choose to keep the im signed in or not so that is your fault and not android
you need to overclock the phone to keep it nice and smooth and try clearing the cache every now and then
my own mytouch 3g is fast and better than the iphone

AndroidNoobie said:
you can can choose to keep the im signed in or not so that is your fault and not android
you need to overclock the phone to keep it nice and smooth and try clearing the cache every now and then
my own mytouch 3g is fast and better than the iphone
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Actually my IM is set to keep me signed in but it doesnt. Im pretty sure the problem im having is more complicated then putting a check mark in the keep me signed in box. LOL
But anyway, maybe clearing the cache will do the trick which is something I dont do too often.
I do run advance task manager and I frequently close programs I dont use. I allways have at least 25mb of mem left but backing back to the home screen is allways 4 to 5 seconds delay. I even tried removing all my icons from the other screen and only have total 5 icons on the 1st screen.
Any other advice would be appreciated thanks guys.

mine is not rooted and the battery life sucks, overclocking will help but it'll run the battery harder. The bottom line is tmobile doesn't want to make a phone with very much ram because then u might be too satisfied with your device and not want a new one every few months.

Wow so is this a hardware/mytouch3g issue?
I tried different roms from stock to herosense to now the latest dohnut but everynow and then the home screen lags to appear especially when im multi tasking on it like music/webrowse/google maps all at the same time WITH weatherbug/twidroid in the background.
The phone just starts to run a lil slower especially when I need to back out to the home screen. As for the IM problem. I think the IM looses connection or is closed automattically from the background when other software require more memory.
I had a G1 on cupcake for a limited time before and I dont remember it having this problem. I dont know. but if theres any suggestions to kinda get rid of this problem please let me know.
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As for overclocking I allways thought the newer cyanmods roms had overclocking at default. Even with overclock it seems the problem is with memory.

i have the same issue on both g1 and the magic as well...def not as smooth as the iphone....sometimes too many widgets will cause slow downs on the screen loading i have noticed....just part of multitasking, making it a tad slow...and yeah..the cyanogen is oc'ed by default

Fresh average memory available?

Using the TasKiller widget, I average around 32M and the rom is just slow as hell.... sorry Flipz, but wow.
Going back to Damage, but before I do, anybody else have this problem? I have it killing everything pretty much.
Maybe its because I'm using Sense UI again?

im sittin at more than 70m...
dunno what else you got running.

i go from 60-84 all the time......i set the memory manager to strict and im using helix launcher with no lwp, couldnt be happier

I'm using sense (sorry, Im a fan) and with task killer set to kill everything but Music (for the widget) Mobile Defense, and AutoKiller. I average 50-60 with 72MB usually free after a fresh boot and killing all tasks that start at boot. That quickly deminishes though and hovers around 50-60. With damage control, I would average 90MB after a fresh boot and auto kill, and would stay around 80.
With 3-4 programs open (one of them being the browser) I average about 35MB with fresh. However with DC I was at 50-60.
I'm using "Moderate" settings with AutoKill that came with fresh. Strict basically turned the phone into an iphone (no multitasking) I wouldn't have the browser and just about any other program running at the same time, defeats the purpose of having a multitasking phone.
The ROM is noticeably slower than damage control, however I was still having many bugs with even DC v2.05 so having a TRULY BUG FREE rom (fresh) is worth the little bit of slower performance.

I seem to agree that Fresh seems to be a more "complete" rom although they are very close.
I always just thought that Fresh's rom comes with a lot more programs (you can remove them, search). I know under Damage's I had a lot more memory, but I didn't have Sprint Football. I need to remove it, but I have been lazy so my avail. memory is under 50m usually, I haven't bothered cleaning it out just yet though.
If you go through and take out the stuff you're not using (even just sense/launcher/android home) maybe also the lock screens/clocks, you may be able to boost your memory a lot.

poor_red_neck said:
I'm using sense (sorry, Im a fan) and with task killer set to kill everything but Music (for the widget) Mobile Defense, and AutoKiller. I average 50-60 with 72MB usually free after a fresh boot and killing all tasks that start at boot. That quickly deminishes though and hovers around 50-60. With damage control, I would average 90MB after a fresh boot and auto kill, and would stay around 80.
With 3-4 programs open (one of them being the browser) I average about 35MB with fresh. However with DC I was at 50-60.
I'm using "Moderate" settings with AutoKill that came with fresh. Strict basically turned the phone into an iphone (no multitasking) I wouldn't have the browser and just about any other program running at the same time, defeats the purpose of having a multitasking phone.
The ROM is noticeably slower than damage control, however I was still having many bugs with even DC v2.05 so having a TRULY BUG FREE rom (fresh) is worth the little bit of slower performance.
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Having a truly bug free rom? When I am getting a text, the phone will FREEZE, and WAIT until the sound decides to play, then it will keep going.
Sometimes typing it will randomly freeze, then spit out a ton of text, then if I hit backspace, it will freeze again, erase it all, and then I have to VERY slowly type.
Its horrible. I'm sorry, but I have to go back to DC. I can't even use the phone.
Here is a good example, yesterday somebody called me, I missed the call because the phone stuck on the home screen with it ringing, finally when it popped up to answer, I hit ANSWER and it didn't do anything. Went to voice mail, I hit the missed call and it just sat there, then it flew to the call screen and then hung up right away (registered a few finger taps and decided I was hitting End Call too). Then I tried to call back, pressed the number 4 or 5 times. Finally got frustrated and threw the phone in the passenger seat. 3 minutes later it rang again and I hit the Answer button and it worked.
This is insane. God forbid I have to get an emergency call out.
Later Fresh ROM.

Wow.
I'm having a great experience with Fresh.
I have (currently) 8 apps open and I'm running 56mb Free.
No FC's at all.

grifforama said:
Wow.
I'm having a great experience with Fresh.
I have (currently) 8 apps open and I'm running 56mb Free.
No FC's at all.
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Me too. Pretty sure there are far more folks who have low to no issues with this rom than there are folks who do.

With apps2sd I am running 64 megs.
Love this rom. No hitches. No glitches.

yall with task killers need to work smarter not harder and utilize the auto killer app and let it do all the killing based on the values in which android works....im on fresh 2.0d and really never dip below 70 or 80 and i dont run
a2sd and i really have no hiccups at all even running lwp...flipz him self said dont **** with a task killer thats prolly why the OP doesnt have alot of free memory

Dec 26: FAQ: Why You Shouldn’t Be Using a Task Killer with Android
And no offense taken. But you have to understand that DC and Fresh are based on the EXACT same build from Sprint. I use my own rom (obviously) and haven't experienced a single thing that you mentioned other than some keyboard lag, which is caused by the experimental keyboard that I put in.
And if you are still questioning speed then you can also check out...
Apr 3: Benchmarking Sprint 2.20.651.1 Based Roms
This is solid proof that the roms are the same. Get rid of your taskkiller, setup autokiller (which is a task killer in a different way. It controls when android does all that nifty stuff in the first link) and you'll have a better experience on every rom, whichever one you choose.

Out of curiousity flipz, what do you find has been the best setting for autokiller? I've been testing several out, just curious what you find works best.

ccapasso said:
Out of curiousity flipz, what do you find has been the best setting for autokiller? I've been testing several out, just curious what you find works best.
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I keep mine on moderate or optimum.

ive noticed after a fresh install sometimes u have like 32 mb free ram.. but after a few reboots and such it levels back out up to 70 mb..

flipzmode said:
I keep mine on moderate or optimum.
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Thanks . My mindset was Agressive would kill more, so I tried that one out. I used optimum for a while, but never moderate yet. I am probably misunderstanding the differences between each setting

I'm using the Aggressive as well, but I will let my pictures speak for themselves.

flipzmode said:
Dec 26: FAQ: Why You Shouldn’t Be Using a Task Killer with Android
And no offense taken. But you have to understand that DC and Fresh are based on the EXACT same build from Sprint. I use my own rom (obviously) and haven't experienced a single thing that you mentioned other than some keyboard lag, which is caused by the experimental keyboard that I put in.
And if you are still questioning speed then you can also check out...
Apr 3: Benchmarking Sprint 2.20.651.1 Based Roms
This is solid proof that the roms are the same. Get rid of your taskkiller, setup autokiller (which is a task killer in a different way. It controls when android does all that nifty stuff in the first link) and you'll have a better experience on every rom, whichever one you choose.
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Exactly.
You can't really argue about one feeling more 'complete' than another one at this point. I gave flipz the Sprint leak, we both did our own customizations but they are basically the same thing. Everything is in your head. We both use the same keyboard (modded HTC one), and a LOT of it is the same stuff, so enough arguing about which one is better/worse. They really are based off the same thing now and have the same functionality. There is nothing that will run on mine that won't run on his, or anything on his that won't run on mine.

also we all use our phones very differently and run different things in combination with others so its really almost impossible to be like oh yea mines running better than yours cause one person may be all with the social networking and all that stuff and another might just need the bare basics...bottom line flash the roms that interest you and you will know what works for YOU

My phone has been running Fresh 2.0d for a few days now and with very minor changes to the base rom, it runs very smooth and fast. After having some issues with another rom I did a wrath of god level wipe on my phone and SD card, from that point on all my FC and lag issues stopped. If nothing else works I would suggest doing something along that line, start from scratch, purge everything, remake partitions etc., "Nuke it from orbit, it's the only way to be sure".

My RAM is usually around 60-70 free, but why is my internal phone memory so low after a fresh install of Fresh2.0d? I just got into rooting, tested out a few, sticking with Fresh, but my Internal memory is around 90 MB, without any other apps installed. Something wrong with this? On this page, dcdave63, shows a picture of internal memory with 131 MB free.

GT-i9000m has been locking up recently to the point of removing the battery.

It went from extremely rarely doing it to three or four times just the other night in the span of a few hours. I can't reproduce it on command but it happens when I lock the screen and put it in my pocket. Then sometimes when I take it out it is entirely non-responsive, even the power button doesn't work. I have to remove and reinsert the battery.
It could be ADW Launcher or WidgetLocker since those are the only two programs always running, but I was hoping someone else experiences a similar issue. It hasn't happened when I normally lock it yet though, so it could also be the proximity sensor maybe?

Having the same issue (on Bell as well), but not running either of those two apps. Was almost to the point of returning the phone and then installed JM7 and it's been better, although not perfect. Last night it locked up with NoLED displaying an icon, so I've deleted that app to see if that's the issue. It hasn't locked up today, but it did reboot a few hours ago seemingly at random. :shrug:

Your internal sd card might be failing like all the other i9000m phones I see on this forum bricking themselves .

clubtech said:
Your internal sd card might be failing like all the other i9000m phones I see on this forum bricking themselves .
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Oh, that doesn't sound pleasant at all...
I'm outside of Bell's 30 day exchange period plus I've talked for over 30 minutes, so I'll have to go through Samsung if it completely breaks. On the plus side, a phone from them should be three button recoverable.
Although I can't be without a phone for weeks, I hope it's not the SD card.

Mine Lags like crazy once every few days till the point I need to restart it. Any idea why this is do?
Sent from my GT-I9000 using XDA App

Hold your horses people....
before you jump about the lag, and or one click lag fix and such
first you have to investigate what is running on your phone.
just over the weekend (since XDA was down) i stalled over 400 Apps
my phone slowed down to snail speed, then i ran my Startup Manager software (many to choose from)
I suggest Startup Cleaner 2.0 then uncheck everything, leave only the apps that you want to run during start up
reboot your phone and presto, fast as new!
if you can find version 2.1 of startup manager that one is even better
keep note, start up manager apps are not the same as task killer apps
it only run once during start up, and it helps you easily select what should and should not run during start up, so it doesn't stay in memory after it runs
on the same topic
you should also configure your Task Killer apps to kill everything, and add only the wants you want to be running to the ignore list.
that will keep the phone working smoothly even without the "one click lag fix"
i'm still running stock on my JH2 i9000m

AllGamer said:
Hold your horses people....
before you jump about the lag, and or one click lag fix and such
first you have to investigate what is running on your phone.
just over the weekend (since XDA was down) i stalled over 400 Apps
my phone slowed down to snail speed, then i ran my Startup Manager software (many to choose from)
I suggest Startup Cleaner 2.0 then uncheck everything, leave only the apps that you want to run during start up
reboot your phone and presto, fast as new!
if you can find version 2.1 of startup manager that one is even better
keep note, start up manager apps are not the same as task killer apps
it only run once during start up, and it helps you easily select what should and should not run during start up, so it doesn't stay in memory after it runs
on the same topic
you should also configure your Task Killer apps to kill everything, and add only the wants you want to be running to the ignore list.
that will keep the phone working smoothly even without the "one click lag fix"
i'm still running stock on my JH2 i9000m
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All gamer has a good sugestion here BUT we are going to get people flaming the fact that Android shouldnt need task managers.....
Ho hum..
TBH in my experience, I have found (after a couple of hard resets) that there appears to be a size limit for installed apps. Once I get over this size limit, I get LAGTASTIC, phone slows to a snails pace, then I remove a few of the apps and I am back at light speed again....
I cant say what the limit is, but I know when I have hit it - I would then uninstall a lame app or two and get back running.

Yes a lot of people "claims" that, but yet you do a search in Android Market, you see LOTS of Task Manager / Killer apps for every phone.
they were not designed for Galaxy S, they were designed long ago for all the other phones that had and still have the same problems of memory management causing lags
Android is not robust enough to survive without one
heck not even Windows 7 or Windows Mobiles phone

I just read that possibly the phone freezes while trying to find a signal. As this problem has only recently started, and I just recently moved into university, and many buildings receive little to no wireless signal, I think it's more than a coincidence. I'll try going to plane mode before entering lecture halls and basements.

Frostshock said:
I just read that possibly the phone freezes while trying to find a signal. As this problem has only recently started, and I just recently moved into university, and many buildings receive little to no wireless signal, I think it's more than a coincidence. I'll try going to plane mode before entering lecture halls and basements.
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i don't think that is the case with the Galaxy S
however back then my Treo 650 did suffer from that.
if you believe that is the problem then try this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=7999389&postcount=28
more cool apps here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=7999389

Is your DESIRE HD as slow as mine??

Hi guys,
Just got a Desire HD for my dad and boy am I embarrassed! It is painfully slow and it just shows everywhere! Screen swipes are delayed by 0.5 sec to 1 sec, opening apps are slow, scrolling through long lists is laggy oh my goodness I don't even know where to stop! Just really really awful!
I have a Desire that's why I know how it's supposed to function. Is it just my desire?? It's still unrooted and running stock rom, I am thinking of rooting it and all but I am hesitant because this is my dad's unit and he might have issues later on.
software running:
1.32.707.5
I tried the software update and it says I am up to date! Is there anyway to force the update to 1.7?
THANKS GUYS

kingofthebraves said:
Hi guys,
Just got a Desire HD for my dad and boy am I embarrassed! It is painfully slow and it just shows everywhere! Screen swipes are delayed by 0.5 sec to 1 sec, opening apps are slow, scrolling through long lists is laggy oh my goodness I don't even know where to stop! Just really really awful!
I have a Desire that's why I know how it's supposed to function. Is it just my desire?? It's still unrooted and running stock rom, I am thinking of rooting it and all but I am hesitant because this is my dad's unit and he might have issues later on.
software running:
1.32.707.5
I tried the software update and it says I am up to date! Is there anyway to force the update to 1.7?
THANKS GUYS
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The update has been pulled because of inconsistent performance. We should be getting another one soon enough.
Try switching on USB Debugging. Go to settings> applications> Development.
You may also want to disable Fast Boot. Go to settings> Applications.
Just so you know, the DHD is, typically, very fast.

I was playing around with it and turned on usb debugging and I don't know if it's because of that but it has become noticeable faster. Another factor may be because my dad still doesn't use the phone everyday and only for browsing without a sim. Phone seems normal after about 30 mins of playing around as compared to my previous experience. (Screen rotation before I played around was 1 - 2 seconds behind desire, now it's on par if not slower by a little)

Did some research and apparently I am not the only one with the same experience:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/archive/index.php/t-846228.html
I think the usb debugging did the trick, interesting why this happened though..
I turned on usb debugging when I was gonna root and everything just sped up lol
Someone should put the thread above as a sticky.

i have the phone and i have no lag whatsoever! fastboot off,usb debugging on,20% brightness,updatess off(I CHECK MANUALLY ONCE A WEEK ABOUT)
I HAVE REVOLUTION SKIN(THE GREEN THING)
task killer i always kill all task before playing games or going to web
i hear that kiling all task before shutting down ,makes afterward the phone to bootup FASTER!

Pruikki said:
i have the phone and i have no lag whatsoever! fastboot off,usb debugging on,20% brightness,updatess off(I CHECK MANUALLY ONCE A WEEK ABOUT)
I HAVE REVOLUTION SKIN(THE GREEN THING)
task killer i always kill all task before playing games or going to web
i hear that kiling all task before shutting down ,makes afterward the phone to bootup FASTER!
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Why kill them?
The kernel will reallocate memory to the active app if it needs to anyway.

dont kill tasks, it does nothing of any use.

rossysaurus said:
dont kill tasks, it does nothing of any use.
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I disagree! The only way I can get lag-free experience is killing the unwanted tasks using up cpu cycles. Some apps just want to run and run regardless of whether you ever use them. And I'm not talking about programs sitting harmlessly idle in memory but about things like htc stocks, facebook, maps that get my cpu up to 30% though I never use any of those apps. Killing them gives me an hour or two of reasonable performance before they start themselves up again.
Sent from my HTC HD so may contain typos, bugs and, if the battery lasts, pearls of....(battery 0%)

I am new to android is the Arc meant to be so laggy and buggy??

My Arc keeps crashing asking me to force close apps and the homescreen it lags like hell and it is getting worst all the time so bad that even opening my texts takes a couple more than 10 seconds... (I do have around 2000 texts though)
Unlocking the screen is laggy scrolling on threw the 5 homescreens is laggy...
Sync turned off.
No timespace widget.
Even after removing all widgets to test it it was laggy
I used advanced task killer to kill all the apps to try the quadrant test
and I only got 850-950 MAX!!
Compared to youtube videos that seem to get almost double scores why is my
Arc is slow is it faulty?
Is it because I only have 40mb of phone memory and about 500mb sd card memory left?
Will I just have to flash my phone and does that mean I will need to flash every 2 weeks???

I think you have installed some applications which caysing this problem I had this problem, then i flashed my phone again & installed apps again (didn't restore).. But i didn't installed all apps at once, i spent time & installed 2, 3 apps everyday to check if the app would make phone laggy or slow. Since then my phone is working awesome, my 16GB memory card is almost full, 400 MB internal memory is full (After root i have removed many useless system apps)... I have more than 4000 sms & there is no lag or slowness Quadrant score is 1650

the only time i experienced lag was with adw launcher and no fc's yet, other than that the phone has been fast - then again i don't have as many apps or data on my phone as you. one thing i did notice is that my lcd's touch sensitivity seems to be lower than other arc's, maybe a defect, but it's pretty maddening in addition to all the reboots i've been having. i've been reading about others that have issues with the battery staying in place and like me, the random reboots, this is my first android phone, so not sure if these things are normal or if it just the arc.

It's definitely apps.
Mine is superfast...

Apps and possibly task killing the wrong things.. you need to make sure that if you're going to use a task killer, you really shouldn't us it on Auto.. and you should make sure to IGNORE anything that is a system task, or anything which persistently restarts.. killing those only wastes battery.

Android isnt exactly the most stable os out their but if you know about the os and know its ins and outs it can not only be the fastest but the best os out there.
My recommendation is look up articles about using and optimizing the os, trust me it will do you a ton of good.

Hi,
It seams that sometimes Android must be reflashed on a Device, especially on Tmobile Devices it will fix most of the problems.
Another tip: Uninstall the update of gmaps and reinstall it, on my device it blocks login to gmail and gtalk from one day to another! -.-
Greetings
Alef

Nope the ARC does not Lag very often and i think its ur device's memory thats giving you the trouble along with that huge pile of messages .... or the Corrupt software that might have crept in ...
My advice would be to flash ur ARC ASAP and limit that 2000+ messages and u will see a difference. Avoid putting too many apps as well.
Arc is a Size Zero Lady ... Don't burden it with Heavy Foodstufff ...
Might create Digestion problems. Keep it Light and it'll stay FIT.

solidkevin said:
Android isnt exactly the most stable os out their but if you know about the os and know its ins and outs it can not only be the fastest but the best os out there.
My recommendation is look up articles about using and optimizing the os, trust me it will do you a ton of good.
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What do you mean "isn't the most stable"? I've been able to keep my phone on for weeks without a reboot. Seems stable enough to me.

Ok turns out I had 110 apps I deleted al the heavy ones and am down to 60 now!! My phone now got 1200 on quadrant. I dont kill any system ups or have an auto task killer set up I just kill uneeded apps before I run benchmarks?
Plus I noticed I have some orange apps that keep coming up even though I never used them... I might have to debrand and try again but my phobe is much much more stable now thanks!!
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chances are it wasn't the number of apps you had which was causing the problem, but that one of them (or possible several of them!) which you deleted were badly written and hogging the processor when they should have been sitting quietly in the background..

Orange is well known for screwing devices with bloatware also.

Wow!!
That's a lot of apps you've installed and most likely loads of them are badly written like iceman said; I installed a file browser on mine not long after getting the phone which would pause the whole system for up to a minute, plus battery was highly drained.
I guess this is result of massively varied hardware for one mobile OS. (Plus bad programming)