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Well after 3 weeks of use I have had it with my X1. It is the slowest phone I have ever come across.
Here are the problems im getting and I have just had enough of them
Phone can freeze when switching between landscape & portrait. Can take up to 2 minutes to figure out what its doing, sometimes its a hard reset
Fidilly interface, I use the SPB panel because of this which is great but everything else is just useless. Tried setting an alarm by rotating the hands? Its so fidily
I get a new message while im on my inbox and sometimes the message takes up to 2 minutes to load. Last night I was waiting 1minutes 43seconds for the message to open (yes I timed it) It just had that piechart icon rotating
Sometimes I cant open the messaging section. I click messaging and nothing happens. I can try to open it as many times as I want but nothing happens. I have to remove the battery..
By screen went green once, everything was green so I had to remove the battery to sort the problem
Doesnt always sync with my PC, no idea why
Cant remove hotmail contacts or sort the contact list because it just adds all my email contacts when I go online
Opera & IE are clunky and full of bugs. IE is slow as hell and cant open some websites. Opera keeps opening the virtual keyboard and changing between fullscreen and menu mode
Panels take a lifetime to load and freeze when switching between view modes
The crappy external speaker, who wants to hear a song full of white noise when you phone rings?
Battery icon - sometimes I have one, sometimes I dont
My signal on my phone seems poor compared to my old LG Viewty. Where I had a decent 3g signal I now get a poor standard signal, if a signal at all
Phone seems to have gotten slower and slower since I first started it up
There are a lot of things I do really like about the X1 but most of these are hardware such as the keyboard, the screen resolution, build quality, wifi, gps etc
I am seriously considering either swapping my phone via o2 or selling it and buying a new phone. I dont understand why interfaces and phones cant be as fluent as the iphone/ipod.
It does a lot of stuff yet the interface is as fast as hell. I am not a fan of the iphone itself due to its rubbish hardware specs but you can't knock the interface. Also I just got an ipod touch so there isn't much point in me having an iphone.
Personally i think the problem lies with WinMo as its very bloated and slow compared to proprietry operating systems or Android/iPhone.
Can anyone recommend me a good phone to get, I was looking at the Samsung Omnia but it doesnt have Wifi or GPS so its a no go really
Dude you must have a faulty phone, I've had mine for a couple of weeks now and haven't had most of the problems you have raised. However it was laggy and slow when I first got it and I still don't think the panels work fast enough to be really usable but once I changed the ROM it was MUCH better, more responsive, Opera actually makes browsing online a good experience!
ukguy said:
Dude you must have a faulty phone, I've had mine for a couple of weeks now and haven't had most of the problems you have raised. However it was laggy and slow when I first got it and I still don't think the panels work fast enough to be really usable but once I changed the ROM it was MUCH better, more responsive, Opera actually makes browsing online a good experience!
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The only faulty thing about it is the firmware, and when I went down that road with my Viewty being buggy as hell I got into the biggest of arguements with my network provider.
They didn't get what I was saying, they keep offering me the same phone as a replacement etc etc and I was nearly thrown of the network as they just winded me up so much.
This phone had high expectations from me and I have to say, it failed miserably. I decided to go back to SE after my LG as they were some of the best phones I had. But this phone just doesnt compare and I personally think its WinMo thats letting it down
i never experience any of the problems you mentioned above. May be it is a faulty unit.
Either a faulty unit, or filled with network bloatware! In short... not a problem of Xperia. When switching landscape to portrait it takes a second for me usually... at most 2-3 seconds. Same goes for other stuff.
I wasn't impressed with my Xperia at the beginning either... but after applying a few tweaks here and there and installing applications and stuff, it is by far the best phone ever! (and i am using the original rom - no cooked rom)
Maybe you should try installing a cooked ROM?
Either way... good luck with whatever phone you do decide to go with. I can, however, say with 99.999% certainty that most problems that you are facing are either due to a faulty device/firmware or is due to bloatware or something...
I did have the exact problems here, also did 3 of my friends who baught the phone.
It is crashing alot and is slow. However I think I will wait till the first firmware update.
But even if they didn't fix these problems, I don't really have an alternative phone, no phone has the specs I want except experia. I mean ofcourse other than win mo, because if it is a win mo phone you are seeking then know that all the win mo phones have the exact same problems, maybe less because they have been around in the market for a longer time, but they still do crash.
celinelust said:
I did have the exact problems here, also did 3 of my friends who baught the phone.
It is crashing alot and is slow. However I think I will wait till the first firmware update.
But even if they didn't fix these problems, I don't really have an alternative phone, no phone has the specs I want except experia. I mean ofcourse other than win mo, because if it is a win mo phone you are seeking then know that all the win mo phones have the exact same problems, maybe less because they have been around in the market for a longer time, but they still do crash.
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That's kinda shocking to hear. Have you tried tweaks and stuff? Maybe hard-reset the phone to remove all bloatware....
Feel free to give the phone to me
[email protected] said:
Feel free to give the phone to me
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Oh crap! I forgot to ask that...
this is strange, my xperia is the best winmo phone I've had. stable like a rock, fast, no lockups, nice batt life... everything works great (and would do better once they update the rom with a better one)
cursor said:
this is strange, my xperia is the best winmo phone I've had. stable like a rock, fast, no lockups, nice batt life... everything works great (and would do better once they update the rom with a better one)
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Same here...
Wth...
Im going to flash my phone and see if its any better.
Anybody got MSN and want to guide me through it?
Evostance said:
Wth...
Im going to flash my phone and see if its any better.
Anybody got MSN and want to guide me through it?
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Good luck with that. I hope you get it working perfectly! This is definitely a wonderful device and the fastest WinMo device.
I've never had the need to flash my set, so afraid don't know anything about it... otherwise would have offered to guide you through.
I have original rom and I think the phone is great! fast and solid!
101% something's wrong with YOUR phone only... althought i have my grumbles, but not so bad at all
Get O2 to reflash it, they will do it for free if you complain about lockups
Evostance said:
Wth...
Im going to flash my phone and see if its any better.
Anybody got MSN and want to guide me through it?
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It's easy, just install hard-spl and then choose from the xperia rom forum one that you like (my preference for now is Itje's HD v2.1).
Follow closely the instructions on the Hard-SPL and rom thread you choose and it will be a breeze.
I just flashed it to IT-Xperience 2.1 and the phone is a hell of a lot faster.
good for you . I am planning to buy Xperia so it will be nice to hear what problems still occur after the update
Evostance said:
I just flashed it to IT-Xperience 2.1 and the phone is a hell of a lot faster.
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What is "IT-Xperience 2.1"? Google has 0 hits.
It went from extremely rarely doing it to three or four times just the other night in the span of a few hours. I can't reproduce it on command but it happens when I lock the screen and put it in my pocket. Then sometimes when I take it out it is entirely non-responsive, even the power button doesn't work. I have to remove and reinsert the battery.
It could be ADW Launcher or WidgetLocker since those are the only two programs always running, but I was hoping someone else experiences a similar issue. It hasn't happened when I normally lock it yet though, so it could also be the proximity sensor maybe?
Having the same issue (on Bell as well), but not running either of those two apps. Was almost to the point of returning the phone and then installed JM7 and it's been better, although not perfect. Last night it locked up with NoLED displaying an icon, so I've deleted that app to see if that's the issue. It hasn't locked up today, but it did reboot a few hours ago seemingly at random. :shrug:
Your internal sd card might be failing like all the other i9000m phones I see on this forum bricking themselves .
clubtech said:
Your internal sd card might be failing like all the other i9000m phones I see on this forum bricking themselves .
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Oh, that doesn't sound pleasant at all...
I'm outside of Bell's 30 day exchange period plus I've talked for over 30 minutes, so I'll have to go through Samsung if it completely breaks. On the plus side, a phone from them should be three button recoverable.
Although I can't be without a phone for weeks, I hope it's not the SD card.
Mine Lags like crazy once every few days till the point I need to restart it. Any idea why this is do?
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Hold your horses people....
before you jump about the lag, and or one click lag fix and such
first you have to investigate what is running on your phone.
just over the weekend (since XDA was down) i stalled over 400 Apps
my phone slowed down to snail speed, then i ran my Startup Manager software (many to choose from)
I suggest Startup Cleaner 2.0 then uncheck everything, leave only the apps that you want to run during start up
reboot your phone and presto, fast as new!
if you can find version 2.1 of startup manager that one is even better
keep note, start up manager apps are not the same as task killer apps
it only run once during start up, and it helps you easily select what should and should not run during start up, so it doesn't stay in memory after it runs
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you should also configure your Task Killer apps to kill everything, and add only the wants you want to be running to the ignore list.
that will keep the phone working smoothly even without the "one click lag fix"
i'm still running stock on my JH2 i9000m
AllGamer said:
Hold your horses people....
before you jump about the lag, and or one click lag fix and such
first you have to investigate what is running on your phone.
just over the weekend (since XDA was down) i stalled over 400 Apps
my phone slowed down to snail speed, then i ran my Startup Manager software (many to choose from)
I suggest Startup Cleaner 2.0 then uncheck everything, leave only the apps that you want to run during start up
reboot your phone and presto, fast as new!
if you can find version 2.1 of startup manager that one is even better
keep note, start up manager apps are not the same as task killer apps
it only run once during start up, and it helps you easily select what should and should not run during start up, so it doesn't stay in memory after it runs
on the same topic
you should also configure your Task Killer apps to kill everything, and add only the wants you want to be running to the ignore list.
that will keep the phone working smoothly even without the "one click lag fix"
i'm still running stock on my JH2 i9000m
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All gamer has a good sugestion here BUT we are going to get people flaming the fact that Android shouldnt need task managers.....
Ho hum..
TBH in my experience, I have found (after a couple of hard resets) that there appears to be a size limit for installed apps. Once I get over this size limit, I get LAGTASTIC, phone slows to a snails pace, then I remove a few of the apps and I am back at light speed again....
I cant say what the limit is, but I know when I have hit it - I would then uninstall a lame app or two and get back running.
Yes a lot of people "claims" that, but yet you do a search in Android Market, you see LOTS of Task Manager / Killer apps for every phone.
they were not designed for Galaxy S, they were designed long ago for all the other phones that had and still have the same problems of memory management causing lags
Android is not robust enough to survive without one
heck not even Windows 7 or Windows Mobiles phone
I just read that possibly the phone freezes while trying to find a signal. As this problem has only recently started, and I just recently moved into university, and many buildings receive little to no wireless signal, I think it's more than a coincidence. I'll try going to plane mode before entering lecture halls and basements.
Frostshock said:
I just read that possibly the phone freezes while trying to find a signal. As this problem has only recently started, and I just recently moved into university, and many buildings receive little to no wireless signal, I think it's more than a coincidence. I'll try going to plane mode before entering lecture halls and basements.
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i don't think that is the case with the Galaxy S
however back then my Treo 650 did suffer from that.
if you believe that is the problem then try this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=7999389&postcount=28
more cool apps here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=7999389
Hey everyone,
I recently swapped my own X10 for a HTC Desire for a multiutude of reasons I won't go into, but my GF kept her X10 in anticipation of the 2.1 Update. She has updated the phone now, although it did take two hours and kept failing.
Anyway, she is happyish with the phone, but I still feel guilty, as it is so terribly slow, and I recommended the phone to her in the first place.
Anyway onto my question. If anyone has a HTC Desire and an X10, they may have more insight, but basically, the X10, after the update, is really slow.
I have sat my Desire side by side with her X10, and tried to do simple tasks, like go into settings, or load media scape / gallery, or add widgets, etc, and the X10 is sometimes seconds behind the Desire, 5 or 6 seconds behind to add a widget? I am hoping this is due to a bad install of the update but am not sure.
Everything seems to lag, pressing settings, going into the app drawer, loading the messaging app, and it doesnt always take the same amount of time to load things either. Sometimes going into settings comes up instantly, other times it takes up to 5 or 6 seconds. Things just seem to hang for no reason. Even scrolling the app drawer and settings screens up and down seem laggy.
We both have launcher pro installed now too, as I find it to be an amazing launcher, but the X10 with launcher pro is again miles behind speed wise, to the point of, to me anyway, almost unnacceptable lag.
Anyway, I just wondered if anyone, hopefully with both phones too, could advise me. I dont want to advise her to do the update again if it isn't going to help. I am privately hoping it is not the limitations of the X10 that makes Android 2.1 so slow, but just a bad install, but i'm not holding my breath.
Sorry to drone on, and I hope this isnt viewed as too much of a rant or X phone verses Y phone lol.
Thanks
Biff.
Hey,
I used to have a lot of lag in the first week after updating... Its almost all gone now
Heya,
Thanks for the response, and it's a response I was hoping for! Lol. I'll cross my fingers
Biff.
It is a know thing. After a fresh upgrade the first few hours will be laggy but after it goes away. It has to do with the facial recognition plugin. If you have a lot of pictures on your sd card after the upgrade it may take a little longer.
In a few hours you will be fine.
Some say that is related to SD card reading, sould come to normal after a few hours using the phone.
I had the same but in the next morning (8 hours after) It was fine.
EDIT: I can recommend also the jit mod (only step2).
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=829660
hmmm thats strange, try reflashing?
yes it was indeed laggy for few days....but aft few days and aft installing JIT i think it runs much better than desire
I had the same thing every operation on the phone was laggy and i mean really laggy...i did the update again and i also (with the help of this very forum), removed some apps (after rooting of course) like timescape etc and i also downloaded minfree manager and changed some values in it and now my phone is smoother than ever before!
Thread for the minfree manager http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=834044
Tips on what apps do delete if you need it http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=826491
Has anyone else noticed their MT4G being retardedly slow? Like to the point it takes 20 seconds to do anything? It was fast the other day. Became unbearably slow today. To the point it wouldn't recognize touch, lagged between screens, etc. I have pulled the battery and rebooted about 6 times now, in the last 12 hours.
I've done a factory reset 2 times since I bought it on Thursday. Not cool.
weird.. never happened to me.
go into setting/applications clear your browser data sometimes it gets really high and needs to be cleaned...just go thru your apps and clear some stuff maybe thats the problem
It's really odd. I pulled out the SIM. Booted up, and it was fast as hell.
Kinda odd. I also just put the SIM back in, ran it in GSM only mode, and its much quicker.
This happens a lot to me, when I talk on the phone and try to do anything. Mostly, I've noticed that Sense just seems to take a dump here and there with all of the background services running. LaucherPro is a lot faster for me, that much is certain.
The dreadful combination is:
Talk on phone
Scroll through something in Sense
Have Android sync with GMail
When that happens, you're toast.
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This happens a lot to me, when I talk on the phone and try to do anything. Mostly, I've noticed that Sense just seems to take a dump here and there with all of the background services running. LaucherPro is a lot faster for me, that much is certain.
The dreadful combination is:
Talk on phone
Scroll through something in Sense
Have Android sync with GMail
When that happens, you're toast.
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How have you been speeding it back up once this happens? I did a few battery pulls and it was still slow, finally just pulled the sim and it worked. But there's gotta be a more definitive answer. Even if it means manually selecting networks.
I sped it up by ditching Sense and using LauncherPro instead. There is such a huge speed increase that it is insane.
Previous to that, I restarted the phone (which is like an actual shutdown) and turned it back on. Not ideal at all. The phone's software is pretty buggy. The ambient light sensor suffers from the same issues that the iPhone 4 launched with. The screen will sometimes stay on during a call (or flash on-off over and over) until your cheek hangs up the call by accident.
I love this phone, but T-Mo and HTC better be quick with the updates.
Phone has always been lag free for me. Are you on stock rom? Post all after market stuff that you downloaded. Something must be running in the background that's slowing you down. Mine has always been good, and when I flashed to iced glacier rom it flies
I have had problems viewing the photo gallery. It really slows down when I start scrolling through the pictures. I don't know if it is because of the memory card or maybe syncing with facebook. I have about 200 pictures on my card. I've had most of these same ones on my G1 and other phones without this problem.
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you can install WatchDog to take a look at what may be eating your CPU. Also I am going to keep going back to it, make sure USB debug is checked. Helped me a lot!
Please post questions in the Q&A section.
wen i switch the phone off, nd start it up again, its all fast nd snappy nd everything is smooth. with time, it starts to slow down, gets buggy nd rly laggy nd not very responsive. so i usually just reboot, but its meant 2 stable rite?... y does this happen? nd how to sort it out....?
running stock 2.2, not rooted
maybe an application you installed that slows your phone down?
oh so this doesnt happen 2 any1??? i dnt know wat it is. i was hopin sum1 can help
The apps u start once, they mostly stay in memory, making the phone slow and laggy. Use a task-killer, it will restore the memory and hence the speed.
ahaider7 said:
The apps u start once, they mostly stay in memory, making the phone slow and laggy. Use a task-killer, it will restore the memory and hence the speed.
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since he is running 2.2 i would say dont use task killers because you dont need it in 2.2, try closing your applications with the Back key and avoid using the Home key, closing with the Home key will just minimize the application and wont close it, hope this helps
You don't need a task killer in any version of Android. I reckon you have a run-away app that is hogging CPU cycles. And the amount of remaining memory has no bearing whatsoever on the speed of the phone.
im using htc sense btw. i think it mite an app, cos yesterday it didnt happen, nd ive removed couple of stuff. anyway 2 get a the new htc sense?? the 1 that desire hd has?
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saifbunni said:
im using htc sense btw. i think it mite an app, cos yesterday it didnt happen, nd ive removed couple of stuff.
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Some apps install services which run all the time. If you go to Applications under Settings you can see running services.
I had the same issue with 2.2, phone would be nice and speedy and then after a random amount of time it would lag badly. The CPU would show 100% load but with no process associated to it.
The answer was to enable USB Debugging (god knows why but I found the solution here), since doing that my phone is super slick and I haven't had to reboot it in over 2 weeks and counting. As mentioned there is no need for killing apps with task managers in 2.2, makes the phone slower if anything.
Worth a try.