Is your DESIRE HD as slow as mine?? - Desire HD General

Hi guys,
Just got a Desire HD for my dad and boy am I embarrassed! It is painfully slow and it just shows everywhere! Screen swipes are delayed by 0.5 sec to 1 sec, opening apps are slow, scrolling through long lists is laggy oh my goodness I don't even know where to stop! Just really really awful!
I have a Desire that's why I know how it's supposed to function. Is it just my desire?? It's still unrooted and running stock rom, I am thinking of rooting it and all but I am hesitant because this is my dad's unit and he might have issues later on.
software running:
1.32.707.5
I tried the software update and it says I am up to date! Is there anyway to force the update to 1.7?
THANKS GUYS

kingofthebraves said:
Hi guys,
Just got a Desire HD for my dad and boy am I embarrassed! It is painfully slow and it just shows everywhere! Screen swipes are delayed by 0.5 sec to 1 sec, opening apps are slow, scrolling through long lists is laggy oh my goodness I don't even know where to stop! Just really really awful!
I have a Desire that's why I know how it's supposed to function. Is it just my desire?? It's still unrooted and running stock rom, I am thinking of rooting it and all but I am hesitant because this is my dad's unit and he might have issues later on.
software running:
1.32.707.5
I tried the software update and it says I am up to date! Is there anyway to force the update to 1.7?
THANKS GUYS
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The update has been pulled because of inconsistent performance. We should be getting another one soon enough.
Try switching on USB Debugging. Go to settings> applications> Development.
You may also want to disable Fast Boot. Go to settings> Applications.
Just so you know, the DHD is, typically, very fast.

I was playing around with it and turned on usb debugging and I don't know if it's because of that but it has become noticeable faster. Another factor may be because my dad still doesn't use the phone everyday and only for browsing without a sim. Phone seems normal after about 30 mins of playing around as compared to my previous experience. (Screen rotation before I played around was 1 - 2 seconds behind desire, now it's on par if not slower by a little)

Did some research and apparently I am not the only one with the same experience:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/archive/index.php/t-846228.html
I think the usb debugging did the trick, interesting why this happened though..
I turned on usb debugging when I was gonna root and everything just sped up lol
Someone should put the thread above as a sticky.

i have the phone and i have no lag whatsoever! fastboot off,usb debugging on,20% brightness,updatess off(I CHECK MANUALLY ONCE A WEEK ABOUT)
I HAVE REVOLUTION SKIN(THE GREEN THING)
task killer i always kill all task before playing games or going to web
i hear that kiling all task before shutting down ,makes afterward the phone to bootup FASTER!

Pruikki said:
i have the phone and i have no lag whatsoever! fastboot off,usb debugging on,20% brightness,updatess off(I CHECK MANUALLY ONCE A WEEK ABOUT)
I HAVE REVOLUTION SKIN(THE GREEN THING)
task killer i always kill all task before playing games or going to web
i hear that kiling all task before shutting down ,makes afterward the phone to bootup FASTER!
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Why kill them?
The kernel will reallocate memory to the active app if it needs to anyway.

dont kill tasks, it does nothing of any use.

rossysaurus said:
dont kill tasks, it does nothing of any use.
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I disagree! The only way I can get lag-free experience is killing the unwanted tasks using up cpu cycles. Some apps just want to run and run regardless of whether you ever use them. And I'm not talking about programs sitting harmlessly idle in memory but about things like htc stocks, facebook, maps that get my cpu up to 30% though I never use any of those apps. Killing them gives me an hour or two of reasonable performance before they start themselves up again.
Sent from my HTC HD so may contain typos, bugs and, if the battery lasts, pearls of....(battery 0%)

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GT-i9000m has been locking up recently to the point of removing the battery.

It went from extremely rarely doing it to three or four times just the other night in the span of a few hours. I can't reproduce it on command but it happens when I lock the screen and put it in my pocket. Then sometimes when I take it out it is entirely non-responsive, even the power button doesn't work. I have to remove and reinsert the battery.
It could be ADW Launcher or WidgetLocker since those are the only two programs always running, but I was hoping someone else experiences a similar issue. It hasn't happened when I normally lock it yet though, so it could also be the proximity sensor maybe?
Having the same issue (on Bell as well), but not running either of those two apps. Was almost to the point of returning the phone and then installed JM7 and it's been better, although not perfect. Last night it locked up with NoLED displaying an icon, so I've deleted that app to see if that's the issue. It hasn't locked up today, but it did reboot a few hours ago seemingly at random. :shrug:
Your internal sd card might be failing like all the other i9000m phones I see on this forum bricking themselves .
clubtech said:
Your internal sd card might be failing like all the other i9000m phones I see on this forum bricking themselves .
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Oh, that doesn't sound pleasant at all...
I'm outside of Bell's 30 day exchange period plus I've talked for over 30 minutes, so I'll have to go through Samsung if it completely breaks. On the plus side, a phone from them should be three button recoverable.
Although I can't be without a phone for weeks, I hope it's not the SD card.
Mine Lags like crazy once every few days till the point I need to restart it. Any idea why this is do?
Sent from my GT-I9000 using XDA App
Hold your horses people....
before you jump about the lag, and or one click lag fix and such
first you have to investigate what is running on your phone.
just over the weekend (since XDA was down) i stalled over 400 Apps
my phone slowed down to snail speed, then i ran my Startup Manager software (many to choose from)
I suggest Startup Cleaner 2.0 then uncheck everything, leave only the apps that you want to run during start up
reboot your phone and presto, fast as new!
if you can find version 2.1 of startup manager that one is even better
keep note, start up manager apps are not the same as task killer apps
it only run once during start up, and it helps you easily select what should and should not run during start up, so it doesn't stay in memory after it runs
on the same topic
you should also configure your Task Killer apps to kill everything, and add only the wants you want to be running to the ignore list.
that will keep the phone working smoothly even without the "one click lag fix"
i'm still running stock on my JH2 i9000m
AllGamer said:
Hold your horses people....
before you jump about the lag, and or one click lag fix and such
first you have to investigate what is running on your phone.
just over the weekend (since XDA was down) i stalled over 400 Apps
my phone slowed down to snail speed, then i ran my Startup Manager software (many to choose from)
I suggest Startup Cleaner 2.0 then uncheck everything, leave only the apps that you want to run during start up
reboot your phone and presto, fast as new!
if you can find version 2.1 of startup manager that one is even better
keep note, start up manager apps are not the same as task killer apps
it only run once during start up, and it helps you easily select what should and should not run during start up, so it doesn't stay in memory after it runs
on the same topic
you should also configure your Task Killer apps to kill everything, and add only the wants you want to be running to the ignore list.
that will keep the phone working smoothly even without the "one click lag fix"
i'm still running stock on my JH2 i9000m
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All gamer has a good sugestion here BUT we are going to get people flaming the fact that Android shouldnt need task managers.....
Ho hum..
TBH in my experience, I have found (after a couple of hard resets) that there appears to be a size limit for installed apps. Once I get over this size limit, I get LAGTASTIC, phone slows to a snails pace, then I remove a few of the apps and I am back at light speed again....
I cant say what the limit is, but I know when I have hit it - I would then uninstall a lame app or two and get back running.
Yes a lot of people "claims" that, but yet you do a search in Android Market, you see LOTS of Task Manager / Killer apps for every phone.
they were not designed for Galaxy S, they were designed long ago for all the other phones that had and still have the same problems of memory management causing lags
Android is not robust enough to survive without one
heck not even Windows 7 or Windows Mobiles phone
I just read that possibly the phone freezes while trying to find a signal. As this problem has only recently started, and I just recently moved into university, and many buildings receive little to no wireless signal, I think it's more than a coincidence. I'll try going to plane mode before entering lecture halls and basements.
Frostshock said:
I just read that possibly the phone freezes while trying to find a signal. As this problem has only recently started, and I just recently moved into university, and many buildings receive little to no wireless signal, I think it's more than a coincidence. I'll try going to plane mode before entering lecture halls and basements.
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i don't think that is the case with the Galaxy S
however back then my Treo 650 did suffer from that.
if you believe that is the problem then try this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=7999389&postcount=28
more cool apps here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=7999389

Overly Sluggish

Has anyone else noticed their MT4G being retardedly slow? Like to the point it takes 20 seconds to do anything? It was fast the other day. Became unbearably slow today. To the point it wouldn't recognize touch, lagged between screens, etc. I have pulled the battery and rebooted about 6 times now, in the last 12 hours.
I've done a factory reset 2 times since I bought it on Thursday. Not cool.
weird.. never happened to me.
go into setting/applications clear your browser data sometimes it gets really high and needs to be cleaned...just go thru your apps and clear some stuff maybe thats the problem
It's really odd. I pulled out the SIM. Booted up, and it was fast as hell.
Kinda odd. I also just put the SIM back in, ran it in GSM only mode, and its much quicker.
This happens a lot to me, when I talk on the phone and try to do anything. Mostly, I've noticed that Sense just seems to take a dump here and there with all of the background services running. LaucherPro is a lot faster for me, that much is certain.
The dreadful combination is:
Talk on phone
Scroll through something in Sense
Have Android sync with GMail
When that happens, you're toast.
Jon C said:
This happens a lot to me, when I talk on the phone and try to do anything. Mostly, I've noticed that Sense just seems to take a dump here and there with all of the background services running. LaucherPro is a lot faster for me, that much is certain.
The dreadful combination is:
Talk on phone
Scroll through something in Sense
Have Android sync with GMail
When that happens, you're toast.
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How have you been speeding it back up once this happens? I did a few battery pulls and it was still slow, finally just pulled the sim and it worked. But there's gotta be a more definitive answer. Even if it means manually selecting networks.
I sped it up by ditching Sense and using LauncherPro instead. There is such a huge speed increase that it is insane.
Previous to that, I restarted the phone (which is like an actual shutdown) and turned it back on. Not ideal at all. The phone's software is pretty buggy. The ambient light sensor suffers from the same issues that the iPhone 4 launched with. The screen will sometimes stay on during a call (or flash on-off over and over) until your cheek hangs up the call by accident.
I love this phone, but T-Mo and HTC better be quick with the updates.
Phone has always been lag free for me. Are you on stock rom? Post all after market stuff that you downloaded. Something must be running in the background that's slowing you down. Mine has always been good, and when I flashed to iced glacier rom it flies
I have had problems viewing the photo gallery. It really slows down when I start scrolling through the pictures. I don't know if it is because of the memory card or maybe syncing with facebook. I have about 200 pictures on my card. I've had most of these same ones on my G1 and other phones without this problem.
Sent from my HTC Glacier using XDA App
you can install WatchDog to take a look at what may be eating your CPU. Also I am going to keep going back to it, make sure USB debug is checked. Helped me a lot!
Please post questions in the Q&A section.

Froyo Updated Legend - CPU Util. Problem & One Solution

Hello All,
My Stock Legend received the Froyo update a week back. The moment I upgraded the phone - the entire phone became sluggish especially the messaging app. I had 4000+ messages... The messaging app became responsive the moment I deleted all the messages (through a 3rd party app). But after a day of usage the entire phone became sluggish with CPU hittin 90~100% utilization constantly!
Tried varios task managers and CPU monitoring apps - all showed /init consuming 80+% of the CPU.
Finally enabling USB Debugging resolved the issue!!!!! Everything became normal and snappy
Thought would post this wierd problem here - in case anybody is seeing sluggish responses do try this out!
--Ashwin
seem to work
It might just be my mind playing tricks on me, or maybe I should wait a bit longer before saying this..
your method actually seem to have decreased the lag on my phone since froyo update!
thanks for the tip
I thought this USB debugging bug is only present in the HTC Desire?
I also have a lot of weird problems. Sometimes apps dissapear, when I restart my phone these apps are back.
Also the sound when I unlock my phone is gone?
It really worked, thanks bro...
ryaneu said:
I thought this USB debugging bug is only present in the HTC Desire?
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It's present on almost every Android device on the market
I immediately reboot the phone the moment it finished updating, so I don't know if it's laggy or not, but I do know that after rebooting, it works fine.
It actually worked ! WOW ... just when i was about to get frustrated with the Froyo Update !
I Had to keep rebooting my phone before to keep it snappy .. like a windows computer ...

starts fast, then slows down....

wen i switch the phone off, nd start it up again, its all fast nd snappy nd everything is smooth. with time, it starts to slow down, gets buggy nd rly laggy nd not very responsive. so i usually just reboot, but its meant 2 stable rite?... y does this happen? nd how to sort it out....?
running stock 2.2, not rooted
maybe an application you installed that slows your phone down?
oh so this doesnt happen 2 any1??? i dnt know wat it is. i was hopin sum1 can help
The apps u start once, they mostly stay in memory, making the phone slow and laggy. Use a task-killer, it will restore the memory and hence the speed.
ahaider7 said:
The apps u start once, they mostly stay in memory, making the phone slow and laggy. Use a task-killer, it will restore the memory and hence the speed.
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since he is running 2.2 i would say dont use task killers because you dont need it in 2.2, try closing your applications with the Back key and avoid using the Home key, closing with the Home key will just minimize the application and wont close it, hope this helps
You don't need a task killer in any version of Android. I reckon you have a run-away app that is hogging CPU cycles. And the amount of remaining memory has no bearing whatsoever on the speed of the phone.
im using htc sense btw. i think it mite an app, cos yesterday it didnt happen, nd ive removed couple of stuff. anyway 2 get a the new htc sense?? the 1 that desire hd has?
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saifbunni said:
im using htc sense btw. i think it mite an app, cos yesterday it didnt happen, nd ive removed couple of stuff.
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Some apps install services which run all the time. If you go to Applications under Settings you can see running services.
I had the same issue with 2.2, phone would be nice and speedy and then after a random amount of time it would lag badly. The CPU would show 100% load but with no process associated to it.
The answer was to enable USB Debugging (god knows why but I found the solution here), since doing that my phone is super slick and I haven't had to reboot it in over 2 weeks and counting. As mentioned there is no need for killing apps with task managers in 2.2, makes the phone slower if anything.
Worth a try.

I am new to android is the Arc meant to be so laggy and buggy??

My Arc keeps crashing asking me to force close apps and the homescreen it lags like hell and it is getting worst all the time so bad that even opening my texts takes a couple more than 10 seconds... (I do have around 2000 texts though)
Unlocking the screen is laggy scrolling on threw the 5 homescreens is laggy...
Sync turned off.
No timespace widget.
Even after removing all widgets to test it it was laggy
I used advanced task killer to kill all the apps to try the quadrant test
and I only got 850-950 MAX!!
Compared to youtube videos that seem to get almost double scores why is my
Arc is slow is it faulty?
Is it because I only have 40mb of phone memory and about 500mb sd card memory left?
Will I just have to flash my phone and does that mean I will need to flash every 2 weeks???
I think you have installed some applications which caysing this problem I had this problem, then i flashed my phone again & installed apps again (didn't restore).. But i didn't installed all apps at once, i spent time & installed 2, 3 apps everyday to check if the app would make phone laggy or slow. Since then my phone is working awesome, my 16GB memory card is almost full, 400 MB internal memory is full (After root i have removed many useless system apps)... I have more than 4000 sms & there is no lag or slowness Quadrant score is 1650
the only time i experienced lag was with adw launcher and no fc's yet, other than that the phone has been fast - then again i don't have as many apps or data on my phone as you. one thing i did notice is that my lcd's touch sensitivity seems to be lower than other arc's, maybe a defect, but it's pretty maddening in addition to all the reboots i've been having. i've been reading about others that have issues with the battery staying in place and like me, the random reboots, this is my first android phone, so not sure if these things are normal or if it just the arc.
It's definitely apps.
Mine is superfast...
Apps and possibly task killing the wrong things.. you need to make sure that if you're going to use a task killer, you really shouldn't us it on Auto.. and you should make sure to IGNORE anything that is a system task, or anything which persistently restarts.. killing those only wastes battery.
Android isnt exactly the most stable os out their but if you know about the os and know its ins and outs it can not only be the fastest but the best os out there.
My recommendation is look up articles about using and optimizing the os, trust me it will do you a ton of good.
Hi,
It seams that sometimes Android must be reflashed on a Device, especially on Tmobile Devices it will fix most of the problems.
Another tip: Uninstall the update of gmaps and reinstall it, on my device it blocks login to gmail and gtalk from one day to another! -.-
Greetings
Alef
Nope the ARC does not Lag very often and i think its ur device's memory thats giving you the trouble along with that huge pile of messages .... or the Corrupt software that might have crept in ...
My advice would be to flash ur ARC ASAP and limit that 2000+ messages and u will see a difference. Avoid putting too many apps as well.
Arc is a Size Zero Lady ... Don't burden it with Heavy Foodstufff ...
Might create Digestion problems. Keep it Light and it'll stay FIT.
solidkevin said:
Android isnt exactly the most stable os out their but if you know about the os and know its ins and outs it can not only be the fastest but the best os out there.
My recommendation is look up articles about using and optimizing the os, trust me it will do you a ton of good.
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What do you mean "isn't the most stable"? I've been able to keep my phone on for weeks without a reboot. Seems stable enough to me.
Ok turns out I had 110 apps I deleted al the heavy ones and am down to 60 now!! My phone now got 1200 on quadrant. I dont kill any system ups or have an auto task killer set up I just kill uneeded apps before I run benchmarks?
Plus I noticed I have some orange apps that keep coming up even though I never used them... I might have to debrand and try again but my phobe is much much more stable now thanks!!
Sent from my LT15i using XDA App
chances are it wasn't the number of apps you had which was causing the problem, but that one of them (or possible several of them!) which you deleted were badly written and hogging the processor when they should have been sitting quietly in the background..
Orange is well known for screwing devices with bloatware also.
Wow!!
That's a lot of apps you've installed and most likely loads of them are badly written like iceman said; I installed a file browser on mine not long after getting the phone which would pause the whole system for up to a minute, plus battery was highly drained.
I guess this is result of massively varied hardware for one mobile OS. (Plus bad programming)

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