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disadvantages of x10 having only 384MB ram?

wht r da disadvantages of x10 having only 384MB ram?
if u compare to htc and samsung galaxy S..da ram in x10 is less. will it affect anything in performance or any limit in receiving updates?
sorry for asking a dumb Q but im curious to know..

vickysud said:
wht r da disadvantages of x10 having only 384MB ram?
if u compare to htc and samsung galaxy S..da ram in x10 is less. will it affect anything in performance or any limit in receiving updates?
sorry for asking a dumb Q but im curious to know..
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there is always ram reserved for the OS. so the performance shouldnt be slower. just see DROD motorolla. its 256 and its super fast.
also. always use programs like task managers, it free rams for you. as soon as you leave an application, it closes and free ram
besides. how does it everyone say its 384 ? when i downloaded programs from the market place on my x10. it told me the free ram is just a lil above 256 " 270 was it ? " or something like that.

from my understanding, the x10 has 384mb of ram. however, android 1.6 can only access about 256mb of ram.

metcard said:
from my understanding, the x10 has 384mb of ram. however, android 1.6 can only access about 256mb of ram.
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it probably make sense but thats weird. the 1.6 can only access 256....... f$$k you sony seriously :/ . what a waste. super device with amazing colors but we can only get 65k out of it only. and now out of 380 ram we can only get 256....

Do you really need to swear ?

metcard said:
from my understanding, the x10 has 384mb of ram. however, android 1.6 can only access about 256mb of ram.
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That is an interesting point. Sounds logical, but may I ask where you came across this little nugget of information?
Also, obviously like everyone else, I want more, more, and more. But I would really like to start on the X10 with the Android 2.3. As for the speed, sure I can see it, but how much of the slight lags here and there wouldn't be improved with a better OS version? Probably quite a few. Though I really do NOT understand how SE can propose an update so far down the line and than not provide their loyal customers with the latest version. I find having to wait nearly a year for the 2.2 a bit insulting. Than to not even offer more open and honest communications with x10 owners about OS revisions, plus patching it up like a mummy to make current owners feel even more like they have to buy the next model, well, doesn't anyone at SE think that they might be taking their greed a bit too far and, their customer base a bit for granted?
I've purchased the P900a, P910i, and the X1. I never waited before, and have always bought the phone right out of the gate. I understand that SE always release their phones with slight issues, but this is getting insulting. I have been using the X10 for a couple of weeks now. I think the world of this phone, but it should not have even been released with the 1.6. Even if that means waiting, that is what makes for good customer service. Now I have not yet decided to purchase the X10, even though my provider will give it too me for free. In fact, I have decided to wait from now on before I buy any SE. I am just a bit tired of being taken for granted. The P900 to the P910 left a slight bad taste in my mouth. I had to problem solve the X1 on my own, voiding my warranty, and auto updates. Now here SE are again pulling the same s**t they have on every other flag ship model. Do they really think their new update methods and promises of continued support fix the real issues?
So back to the question. Speed, this phone and this company have much bigger issues than speed.
This is a message to any SE reps that may actually follow what their customers are saying. I am going to buy the next SE flag ship device as long as it has 2.3. and doesn't have a bunch of problems. But I am telling you right now the next time you release a device that is not ready, hoping to get even more customers midterm by offering the same phone with more, I am done. Reward those that wait, and punishing those of us who have supported you. Keep it up and I am gone!

It really depends on how you look at it.
Android OS 1.6 is the limiting factor for the 256MB limit. So, Sony Ericsson actually did us a favor by giving us more than the shipping product could use because they planned to update it.
As we all know, the UXP update is coming with 2.1 (for now) which will take advantage of the extra memory in addition to taking advantage of the 16 million color screen. Also, the new OS is faster and has a lower memory footprint so we should still have a great performing device.
Newer high-end models coming out now have 512MB of memory which is only 33% more.
EDIT: If you check out the Android 2.2 SDK documentation, it shows they added support for > 256MB. So, it looks like not even 2.1 has it unless companies are patching the kernel directly.

gr00vy0ne said:
Newer high-end models coming out now have 512MB of memory which is only 33% more.
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newer models.. u mean newer Ver of X10 ? or phones like nexus/desire ?
as for x10 being really 384 vs 512, its no big deal really. no one will notice the difference.
much like how Desire has more ram than nexus

gr00vy0ne said:
It really depends on how you look at it.
Android OS 1.6 is the limiting factor for the 256MB limit. So, Sony Ericsson actually did us a favor by giving us more than the shipping product could use because they planned to update it.
As we all know, the UXP update is coming with 2.1 (for now) which will take advantage of the extra memory in addition to taking advantage of the 16 million color screen. Also, the new OS is faster and has a lower memory footprint so we should still have a great performing device.
Newer high-end models coming out now have 512MB of memory which is only 33% more.
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512mb sounds delicious! "only 33% more" is massive. Imagine if airplanes traveled 33% faster, what that would do to air travel.
Android 2.1 and 2.2 are already so yesterday, what a joke that they are even considering updating to either. I doubt very seriously the X10 will get the 2.3 or higher version before the next flag ship device is released. Other wise what will they have to sell next year? It is a timing game designed to make more money. And, I truly believe that SE would be so much more successful if they stopped this business practice.

fm1776 said:
512mb sounds delicious! "only 33% more" is massive. Imagine if airplanes traveled 33% faster, what that would do to air travel.
Android 2.1 and 2.2 are already so yesterday, what a joke that they are even considering updating to either. I doubt very seriously the X10 will get the 2.3 or higher version before the next flag ship device is released. Other wise what will they have to sell next year? It is a timing game designed to make more money. And, I truly believe that SE would be so much more successful if they stopped this business practice.
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yes but not even 2.2 takes the fall ram usage of the device :/

ll_l_x_l_ll said:
yes but not even 2.2 takes the fall ram usage of the device :/
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I am not as concerned about the 512mb as I am about the 2.3. What is the point of having the latest and great hardware if it is being limited by the software. And, waiting nearly a year for a software revision that will still be behind other devices with lesser hardware make you wonder what is going on. And, since SE is being so tight lipped about the whole thing just adds insult to injury.
The 2.3 is a massive improvement from earlier releases. So right now who really cares if it gets updated to 2.1 ro 2.2. Both are a complete waste of time for those of us justifying buying any manufacturers flag ship devices. If this device does not get the 2.3 or better I would not waste my money on it.
The question is will I wait until November to find out that it wont be the 2.3 or do I just buy HTC or something else now? Do I take a lesser device that is at least being optimized to it's potential with the latest software? Based on SE's past models I think we can all assume that November will not be the 2.3
This is not the modus operandi of SE.
It is almost like SE is selling their devices spec sheet, and who cares about the rest. SE might be the only company on earth where the limits on their devices are not hardware related, but are software related. What a stupid business model.

fm1776 said:
I am not as concerned about the 512mb as I am about the 2.3. What is the point of having the latest and great hardware if it is being limited by the software. And, waiting nearly a year for a software revision that will still be behind other devices with lesser hardware make you wonder what is going on. And, since SE is being so tight lipped about the whole thing just adds insult to injury.
The 2.3 is a massive improvement from earlier releases. So right now who really cares if it gets updated to 2.1 ro 2.2. Both are a complete waste of time for those of us justifying buying any manufacturers flag ship devices. If this device does not get the 2.3 or better I would not waste my money on it.
The question is will I wait until November to find out that it wont be the 2.3 or do I just buy HTC or something else now? Do I take a lesser device that is at least being optimized to it's potential with the latest software? Based on SE's past models I think we can all assume that November will not be the 2.3
This is not the modus operandi of SE.
It is almost like SE is selling their devices spec sheet, and who cares about the rest. SE might be the only company on earth where the limits on their devices are not hardware related, but are software related. What a stupid business model.
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man.. we are fighting to get 2.2 and ur thinking of 2.3 which probably didnt start development yet ?
lol @ this. i guess u will never buy a phone.

It really depends on how you look at it.
Android OS 1.6 is the limiting factor for the 256MB limit. So, Sony Ericsson actually did us a favor by g
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512mb sounds delicious! "only 33% more" is massive. Imagine if airplanes traveled 33% faster, what that would do to air travel.
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In this comparing it would more correct let the airplane carry 33% more passengers rather then making it faster.
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In this comparing it would more correct let the airplane carry 33% more passengers rather then making it faster.
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or maybe better making air travel 33% cheaper

fm1776 said:
I am not as concerned about the 512mb as I am about the 2.3. What is the point of having the latest and great hardware if it is being limited by the software. And, waiting nearly a year for a software revision that will still be behind other devices with lesser hardware make you wonder what is going on. And, since SE is being so tight lipped about the whole thing just adds insult to injury.
The 2.3 is a massive improvement from earlier releases. So right now who really cares if it gets updated to 2.1 ro 2.2. Both are a complete waste of time for those of us justifying buying any manufacturers flag ship devices. If this device does not get the 2.3 or better I would not waste my money on it.
The question is will I wait until November to find out that it wont be the 2.3 or do I just buy HTC or something else now? Do I take a lesser device that is at least being optimized to it's potential with the latest software? Based on SE's past models I think we can all assume that November will not be the 2.3
This is not the modus operandi of SE.
It is almost like SE is selling their devices spec sheet, and who cares about the rest. SE might be the only company on earth where the limits on their devices are not hardware related, but are software related. What a stupid business model.
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Go buy an HTC PLEASE!

bimmerboii said:
or maybe better making air travel 33% cheaper
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That sounds good too

ll_l_x_l_ll said:
man.. we are fighting to get 2.2 and ur thinking of 2.3 which probably didnt start development yet ?
lol @ this. i guess u will never buy a phone.
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Sure I will. One with 2.3

a question for everyone thinking about the version numbers......
what company has upgraded their OS right after google has released it??????
even motorola with vanilla OS phones(droid and milestone) couldnt do it till many months....
sure SE is little lagging but nothing to blame SE here .... thats how its working everywhere......

By the way the 2.3 is well into the development phase. It is scheduled to be released in Q4 which is exactly the same time the X10 is scheduled to be updated. How many phones do you think will carry the new 2.3 before years end?
A half of a year more is not that long. I will wait and see what the market has to offer come than. I only get one free phone per year and I wouldn't want to waste it on a device that is offering last years software.

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Well it terms of moving bits wouldn't moving 33% more be the same as 33% faster?

Is there going to be custom ROMS for Galaxy S?

Galaxy S is a wonderful phone with many-many hardware advantages but with one major disadvantage, and it's called Samsung Software Support.
I really like this phone but I believe that Froyo will be the last update that Samsung is going to give, so i believe that the only hope of this phone is custom Roms
Nexus One have great cookers like to support it. Does anyone have the intention to do the same thing for Galaxy S?

If you are worried about that, then don't buy the Galaxy S now. Wait a month or two and see how it looks then?
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Thats what I'm going to do, I don't plan to buy it now, but I have my eye on it and I didnt find any info on the subject, so I made this thread.

hey m8, i know how "Bad" samsung support is and I don't wanna disagree with your opinion but seriously, what major improvements to you want? ginger bread? has it even been stated what ginger bread will improve? for now 2.1 and 2.2 will be good.... and I don't even keep the same phone for longer than 1-2 years, technology improves to fast, phones get slimmer and nicer.
you get my point this is the best out there, take it enjoy it hack it but dont plan on keeping it for a decade.

Well, correct me if I'm wrong, google said that in the next 6 months is going to amaze us. I believe that mean gingerbread.
I also believe that google has many innovations to show us with android so an upgradeable device is necessary.

Desvbo said:
hey m8, i know how "Bad" samsung support is and I don't wanna disagree with your opinion but seriously, what major improvements to you want? ginger bread? has it even been stated what ginger bread will improve? for now 2.1 and 2.2 will be good.... and I don't even keep the same phone for longer than 1-2 years, technology improves to fast, phones get slimmer and nicer.
you get my point this is the best out there, take it enjoy it hack it but dont plan on keeping it for a decade.
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True, true, but i mean at the very least some common and very easy bug fixes and stuff. I own the Omnia II and the only bug fixes come from cookers and very very few ppl who has privileged access to samsung new roms (and they "won't" tell where they get it from, so prolly insider roms imo).
By the way, what's that "amazing" thing google has announced??? hardware or software??

i think the "bad support" by samsung is exaggerated by people...
i would not call it bad support, if samsung releases updates to add the following long after the release of the phone (they could have said "we already got your money ... bad luck for you"):
they fixed photocontacts, then after it was fixed they changed photocontacts because people did not like the way it worked (but it worked nontheless)...
what company would change something after they just fixed it so it is not broken anymore ? that is really bad support, to hear the wishes and likes of how things should work (even if they are currently not broken).
then they gave us kinetic scrolling .. something that was never even mentioned as feature for the phone in the first place ...
i think its just greedy people who spend some money on a phone and now expect the manufacturer to keep it updated forever so it is always the best with all features that even where not invented when the phone initially was released ... go to work, earn some dollars and buy a new phone instead of expecting a company (whos target is to make money) to spend money just so you have the finest things for free without giving a dime for it and after that the spoilt users will still moarn that they did not get unlimited updates for free

If you check out their open source website, you will find Galaxy S' Kernel and driver. I'm not custom ROM developer, and dose not know about that well.
However, other XDA member said that this is enough to port other ROMs such as Sense UI.
According to Samsung Mobile twitter, Froyo will come 100%. Ginger-Bread is not clear.
I will buy Galaxy S. More people means More support from home cooker.

Gingerbread is going to come out next year. Google said they are going to only release an Android update once a year now. No one even knows what Gingerbread is going to offer next year so why worry about an update? Enjoy it now and enjoy it more when it gets Froyo.

DKYang said:
Gingerbread is going to come out next year. Google said they are going to only release an Android update once a year now. No one even knows what Gingerbread is going to offer next year so why worry about an update? Enjoy it now and enjoy it more when it gets Froyo.
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Agreed lol!
the 2.1 on the sammy seems VERY usable, yes forever, not just for a year, because it has nearly everything we would need.
the more you get, the more you want.
I question whether people actually sit down and think. Some say "no 2.2 froyo = a failure".. while before it was "no 2.1 = a failure".. and before that no "1.6 = a failure". it's a foolish never ending cycle of wanting more more more even though each version is fully usable.
seriously what kind of comment is that, the phone has everything almost, even if it doesn't according to the person, it has enough for us to use it as a phone and camera and internet and mp3/video.
I hope people will realize what is on the sammy is enough (unless you want to install themes only that's cool).

Obviously not indicative of whether or not the GS will get Gingerbread, but as for bug fixes Samsung are apparently releasing GS firmware updates in Singapore:
http://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/showthread.php?t=2781948&page=95
From my own limited experience, there were several firmware updates for the Omnia I as well, although never an official upgrade from WinMo 6.1 to to 6.5 even though the phone could run it just fine (probably because they wanted to sell Omnia II instead).

Well, that's what i mean. I also had omnia, it's a very good phone that never got win6.5 officially even though it could.
That's what i'm afraid of with galaxy.
I expect many innovations with every new version of android so it would like to be able to have it in Galaxy s if im going to be an owner.
Lets hope that a great cooker is heading this way

Well, concerning Samsung's support, I'm pretty sure it's not going to be that bad. Samsung released Android 2.1 for the Galaxy Spica way before HTC has released Android 2.1 for the Hero. It's got a bed rep because of the way they handle the Behold I and II in the US and some Windows Mobile phones, and that's because they apparently don't want to support phones that haven't sold well (and probably because they have to pay for the Qualcomm drivers). Because the Galaxy S is probably going to be rather popular with its worldwide release and runs on Samsung's own hardware, I do think Samsung will supply us with an update, at least to Android 2.2.
As for ROM development: Samsung has provided us with the complete source of Android running on the Galaxy S, so it should be perfectly possible to develop ROMs once the device is rooted (which could even be accomplished with the HTC Incredible) and a bootloader can be used for it. At least, that's how far I've understood it.

DCKing said:
Well, concerning Samsung's support, ..... It's got a bed rep because of the way they handle the Behold I and II in the US and some Windows Mobile phones. .....
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Their Symbian phones didn't get the same love as well. I am afraid this is not restricted to one part of the world or one phone or two. It's just Samsung providing almost perfect hardware and crappy software.
The orphan approach is what Samsung keep doing. While, the community suppose to be the one adopting Samsung projects. This kinda lame and I really hate it.
Anyway, back to the topic (somehow).
Does anyone of you heard any news about Samsung Galaxy S Pro?
I am trying to hold for 1 month or two before getting my Android and I am not the type who changes his phone according to a season or his pair of shoes.
Hopefully, the keyboard version comes sooner than latter.

The next thing to wow us is probably gonna be phones with screens that can produce 3D effects

Probably not a good idea to compare how Samsung treats phones with an OS, they have/had to pay for(WM and Sybian) with one that's free(Android). Upgrading those payed for OS' might be much more expensive than the free OS. The higher the cost the less likely anyone would wanna upgrade, no?
Personally I think this is kinda silly. Is there any mobile manufacturer that has a really good trackrecord(aside from possibly Apple)? Seems people moan about the support, or lack of, from all of them...
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Silverdragondk said:
Probably not a good idea to compare how Samsung treats phones with an OS, they have/had to pay for(WM and Sybian) with one that's free(Android). Upgrading those payed for OS' might be much more expensive than the free OS. The higher the cost the less likely anyone would wanna upgrade, no?
Personally I think this is kinda silly. Is there any mobile manufacturer that has a really good trackrecord(aside from possibly Apple)? Seems people moan about the support, or lack of, from all of them...
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I think HP used to produce quick update for windows mobile devices. However, they are charging for the update. That for windows 2003se to WM5.
I have bad experience with HTC. They take forever to update.
Another phone I have is O2 XDA mini. I never have any update since the device release.

Silverdragondk said:
Probably not a good idea to compare how Samsung treats phones with an OS, they have/had to pay for(WM and Sybian) with one that's free(Android). Upgrading those payed for OS' might be much more expensive than the free OS. The higher the cost the less likely anyone would wanna upgrade, no?
[3]Personally I think this is kinda silly. Is there any mobile manufacturer that has a really good trackrecord(aside from possibly Apple)? Seems people moan about the support, or lack of, from all of them...
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1- It called Symbian
2- It is open source = Free = Your argument isn't valid for it
3- Agree

S.p.x. said:
1- It called Symbian
2- It is open source = Free = Your argument isn't valid for it
3- Agree
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regardless of the fact i see no reason for them not to upgrade to gingerbread i doubt very serious there would be much hardship, also knowing me if/when this come to t-mobile and i get it i know it will be rooted so im not worrying about updates on a company end.

S.p.x. said:
1- It called Symbian
2- It is open source = Free = Your argument isn't valid for it
3- Agree
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1 - Apologies. I guess I didn't really press the "m" when I typed Symbian.
2 - It wasn't always, which is why I wrote "have/had" and included it. I don't even know, if Symbian was free when Samsung used it in the Omnia HD...
3 - Good!
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Xperia Won't Get Gingerbread (Android 3.0)?

This is just a rumor, so don't chew off my ass if it doesn't pan out (I would really be delighted if I am wrong).
With Android 2.2 Froyo out of the way, Google has already begun developing the next generation Android OS dubbed Android 3.0 Gingerbread which is expected to be released in Q4 2010.
If you are excited about Gingerbread, here is a catch that might make older handset users cringe. According to a French website WebDevOnLinux, Google will be imposing a minimum configuration for running the next release of Android.
The minimum configuration will be a 1GHz processor, 512MB Ram and 3.5 inches or more screen size. This new requirements will mean that older Android handsets will not be able to use Gingerbread unless they root it.
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This is just a rumor, so don't chew off my ass if it doesn't pan out (I would really be delighted if I am wrong).
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How does it affects x10?

Don't think the x10 has the RAM requirements.

by the time SE get around to porting it I'd probably be looking for a replacement phone anyhow. I do only have a 2 year contract.

Yeah, it's a "little" disappointing but the X10 was designed before 3.0 specs ever existed so there's no way they could have known. And at the time, the X10 was one of the most powerful Android spec'd devices announced.
Other than the older Donut OS, I think the Xperia X10 still stands competitively against all these new devices that are being announced.
I think the X10 with 2.2 will be more than good enough and perhaps the next Xperia will be designed for 3.0 out of the box.

well i guess it's a good thing we have root then

Is it not possible that the X10 could in fact have more than 256mb ram? I heard the donut only recognises a maximum of 256mb. I could be very wrong. Also could it not be referring to the ROM of which Xperia X10 has 1Gb. You know, overhall of the OS could demand more storage of the permanent variety

Come on ! No one, including Google, has even discussed Android 3.0 so why push a rumour which has no basis infact ?
Get real...
Would you guys support Windows if Microsoft realeased a new version every 6 months which was not backwards compatible ? Google are falling into the same problems with Android that has dogged Linux for years.
Users just want an OS that works and is incrementally upgradable, we do not want brand new OS's every six months.

Can I also add that RAM has little relevance to the OS.. it is indeed the ROM which is most important.. and clearly the x10 has plenty.

I dont think this will be a burden for xda developers
they got eclair and modded versions of it running the G1!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Iam guessing even IF this is true it won't affect us that hard. Someone will probably find some sort of ram hack or something.

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Can I also add that RAM has little relevance to the OS.. it is indeed the ROM which is most important.. and clearly the x10 has plenty.
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Also, Xperia X10 CAN get Gingerbread because it has around 400 MB of ram, and if there is more needed, it can use converted memory stick space like the G1 did.

That is what I thought

instigator008 said:
Don't think the x10 has the RAM requirements.
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Yeah. X10 has 384 MB RAM.
As everyone else said, the RAM requirement doesn't make much sense, even if Google is going to put on a heavy duty skin on Gingerbread (come on, UXP is already pretty heavy and X10 can handle that).

citsym said:
Yeah. X10 has 384 MB RAM.
As everyone else said, the RAM requirement doesn't make much sense, even if Google is going to put on a heavy duty skin on Gingerbread (come on, UXP is already pretty heavy and X10 can handle that).
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That is true - we'll I'm not counting on SE to release it, so we'll have to port the next version of Android to the X10.
But these are rumours, by the way, so we don't know what'll happen officially.

The x10 is getting 2.1, and thats good enough for me. And for all we know, 3.0 may be unstable when it comes out so another company can use it on their new phone first.
It will be fine for now, and in a year or so, SE will come out with another phone, the X15 or something with a similar name and it will be lots of money and we can buy that one too. Then rooting will start all over again, then SE will be slow at updating it to 3.5, and all this will go on and on. But in the end, we are happy with what we have now. And look, I just keep rambling so I'll stop now.

Darthhister said:
The x10 is getting 2.1, and thats good enough for me. And for all we know, 3.0 may be unstable when it comes out so another company can use it on their new phone first.
It will be fine for now, and in a year or so, SE will come out with another phone, the X15 or something with a similar name and it will be lots of money and we can buy that one too. Then rooting will start all over again, then SE will be slow at updating it to 3.5, and all this will go on and on. But in the end, we are happy with what we have now. And look, I just keep rambling so I'll stop now.
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I think you are right! We have to accept that our phones won't be the best phone forever! However it's hard to accept that, we should be grateful of what our phone can!!

I've no doubt Gingerbread will boast many great features.
However Froyo would be enough for me on this thing. I really want flash capability on this device. It would have been really handy at work whilst the world cup matches were on.
The speed increase and tethering and hotspot abilities would be appreciated too (i am aware of the market apps for tethering).
I think by the time gingerbread rolls out and becomes the main player I'd be ready for a new handset anyway.

LOL its funny how the poster generalized the whole Xperia won't be getting 3.0. Do u not think SE will have something up for it the end of the year?

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LOL its funny how the poster generalized the whole Xperia won't be getting 3.0. Do u not think SE will have something up for it the end of the year?
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They'll just be gearing up to launch their latest range of android 2.2 devices!
These guys sound like there going to be at least 1 version behind each time for the sake of that UXP.

cashaw said:
Come on ! No one, including Google, has even discussed Android 3.0 so why push a rumour which has no basis infact ?
Get real...
Would you guys support Windows if Microsoft realeased a new version every 6 months which was not backwards compatible ? Google are falling into the same problems with Android that has dogged Linux for years.
Users just want an OS that works and is incrementally upgradable, we do not want brand new OS's every six months.
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Totally agree with you. Why do you guys buy Rachael when you know fully well it's 1.6?
I don't see why one would wanna buy 1.6 and whine about not having the latest OS.
It's bad enough alot of people are still having delusions about 2.2, despite Sony Ericsson announcing that 2.1 will be the next update.
Now 3.0 -__-
Some are even desperate enough to try hack it.
Seriously why not just get a Nexus One or something?

Galaxy S getting Gingerbread

Not sure if its official or obvious or both. But a someone working from Samsung told me that someone has just received official RC for Gingerbread for Galaxy S.
Sorry for the spam but wanted to share the joy that Samsung hasn't given up on 12 million Galaxy S users....yet.
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Sure Hope so! im getting tired of waiting around for samsung. It's this type of customer service that makes me think of switching to an HTC for my next phone, even though i will miss out on dual core and high end video graphics.
Manufacturers need to start focusing on the total experience rather than hardware. (i would love to see how battery lives of next gen android phones compare)

rajuki said:
Not sure if its official or obvious or both. But a someone working from Samsung told me that someone has just received official RC for Gingerbread for Galaxy S.
Sorry for the spam but wanted to share the joy that Samsung hasn't given up on 12 million Galaxy S users....yet.
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Thanks for the news, but you have to be more explicit: are you talking about the asian, european or american market?
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ghazi.urfali said:
It's this type of customer service that makes me think of switching to an HTC for my next phone, even though i will miss out on dual core and high end video graphics.
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HTC is better? The Desire came out at the same time as the Galaxy S around here (I chose between the two), and they are basically in the same spot we are. http://www.product-reviews.net/2011...htc-desire-owners-will-get-update-eventually/ Waiting for it to come...eventually. A quick search reveals the Incredible doesn't have it officially yet either.
At least us XDA'ers won't have to wait an eternity for carrier-specific releases. In Bell's case they will be months molesting 2.3 (and possibly screwing it up) even after Samsung is finished, but I won't be beholden to their whims.

forelli said:
Thanks for the news, but you have to be more explicit: are you talking about the asian, european or american market?
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Well, this person works in Nordic division for Samsung so can't really say. My guess is European first. The word is that the release will take some time because Samsung received a lot of complaints for Froyo- so they want to do this one right and freeze the development for Galaxy S- consider it as a farewell gift from Samsung.

ghazi.urfali said:
Sure Hope so! im getting tired of waiting around for samsung. It's this type of customer service that makes me think of switching to an HTC for my next phone, even though i will miss out on dual core and high end video graphics.
Manufacturers need to start focusing on the total experience rather than hardware. (i would love to see how battery lives of next gen android phones compare)
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Mate, Grass is always greener on the other side- isn't it?

I honestly belive, that we will get 2.3 (and mabe some minor improvements within 2.3), but that will be our last update.

I think we well get 2.4 minor update
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Well, this person works in Nordic division for Samsung so can't really say. My guess is European first. The word is that the release will take some time because Samsung received a lot of complaints for Froyo- so they want to do this one right and freeze the development for Galaxy S- consider it as a farewell gift from Samsung.
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Damn it, just one year dev support for phones costing +500$
What a silly consumer world we're running

Do you really expect something great and/or new with 2.3 or 2.whatever??
There will be some other issues again. The battery is still the same, the display is the same, the button won't change, the scratches your devices already have won't go ... so ... what is it good for?!
My stock Galaxy S was ok for calling, sms, mails, and some enternmaint as it comes. So it did/does what they said. Switching to other ROM or adjusting this or that was born by some boring nights at work, just to see how the things are working. But no real need to change anything. So, if they will release another ROM - nice, but if not - who cares.
To have always the newest (is it always better?), the more shiny (unfortunaley it will be easier scratched), the more expensive (did you earn more money in the last past?), the glamour of modern style (do you really think a smartphone beams you to the rich und famous?) belongs exactly to:
What a silly consumer world we're running
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But it makes lots of fun to brick it and get it back to live again.

According to Eldar Murtazin from mobile-review.com 2.3 version should be in 2 months time for Galaxy S phones. At least in Europe.

Am I the only one relying so much on 2.3 fixing the sluggish interface to give us iOs/wp7 smoothness?

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Am I the only one relying so much on 2.3 fixing the sluggish interface to give us iOs/wp7 smoothness?
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No your not the only one. On paper the Galaxy S should be faster than the Desire (which i owned before Galaxy S). But it lags so much its terrible sometimes .. im even embarrased to show the phone to iPhone users.
The problem is the crappy RFS filesystem!!! (Google it). I hope they get rid of that stupid crap and switch to EXT2 or 4.
Sometimes the phone just doesnt react to anything .. and i end up hammering the thumb on the screen. But the phone is frozen for several seconds. Its so anoying!

ghazi.urfali said:
Sure Hope so! im getting tired of waiting around for samsung. It's this type of customer service that makes me think of switching to an HTC for my next phone, even though i will miss out on dual core and high end video graphics.
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lol, you are kidding right? as far as i know no htc device has official gingerbread yet so ... i'd say if samsung is able to produce a RC yet they are definitely on track! also i prefer a a good and tested firmware over a buggy and unoptimized one like the first 2.2 firmwares.
and yep: I'm also looking forward with joy to a fantastic 2.3 firmware. i guess they improved a lot due to the production of the nexus s. although i'd prefer a stable release of cm7 ...

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No your not the only one. On paper the Galaxy S should be faster than the Desire (which i owned before Galaxy S). But it lags so much its terrible sometimes .. im even embarrased to show the phone to iPhone users.
The problem is the crappy RFS filesystem!!! (Google it). I hope they get rid of that stupid crap and switch to EXT2 or 4.
Sometimes the phone just doesnt react to anything .. and i end up hammering the thumb on the screen. But the phone is frozen for several seconds. Its so anoying!
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don't be embarrassed, just install the speedmod kernel by hardcore and it will be faster than all the stupid ios&wp7 devices of your friends together . beliefe me!

jodue said:
don't be embarrassed, just install the speedmod kernel by hardcore and it will be faster than all the stupid ios&wp7 devices of your friends together . beliefe me!
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No kernel or ext4 tweaks will fix the lag on our phones, i've been trying everything since day one, its hopeless. The problem isn't just the rfs filesystem, its also touchwiz.

@peachpuff
Either you are stupid or you just like to complain...
My i9000 outperforms both my friends iphones and android devices in speed and smoothness. (ok, the iphones are a bit smoother... But it's still better than the androids)
Exept for the GPS, there is nothing wrong with the galaxy that can't be fixed by mods.
And so far, Samsung has a pretty good update record. All of their unlocked international phones have got updates as fast, or even faster than other OEM's.

Install js5 and speedmod.
Activate lagfix, and i can promis you it will kill the iphone.
And with fasterfix and GPSaids the GPS is really good to.
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I hope Samsung won't stop at 2.3

I am using a custom rom with speed mod my galaxy s is faster and smoother than ever. It scores almost 1500 on quadrant edition.
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It Is not Right :(((

Samsung has stated the possibility of an official update to the Android operating system version 2.3, which is intended for all of the issued units range Galaxy. The new OS has a more refined user interface has been improved as well by copying and pasting text. In addition there is support for video on the Internet - resources (WebM/VP8) and full support for VoIP calls using the built-in front camera. However, the emphasis on developers are increasing the performance of their devices at the same time, the new version of the operating system has increased the battery life of smartphones by optimizing the energy consumption. All of the devices in this family can be updated automatically by means of an instrument Kies, which is a formal program for flashing devices. The latest version of the operating system can also be downloaded from the official website of the company. updates, in particular, the following models are available: Galaxy S (I9000), Galaxy Ace (S5830), Galaxy Fit (S5670), Galaxy Gio (S5660) and Galaxy Mini (S5570) . Just now getting ready for the new firmware Galaxy S scLCD (I9003), Galaxy Tab 3G (P1000) and Galaxy Tab Wi-Fi (P1010), which will appear later.
Direct From Samsung ....

You are Right, ilievski.ace, full agreement!
But that's the normal behavior since creation of economy. Specially since the invention of the "game" of developing HARDWARE & SOFTWARE
They are not interested, that we use our cheap phones forever. They want you to buy a new one.
That's quiet easy and logical.
Our G3 is not a high end phone and unfortunately the development of software seems to be too expensive for them. So they concentrate on their new devices.
That's sad, but not the customer is their interest but the profit in the end.
I really hate to explain any customers, that they should buy a hole new computer after 3 or 4 years, because it's cheaper for them, than the costs of changing the motherboard and recreate the OS with the new Hardware for example... ;(

Siple answer for samsung reply is that they will not take care of g3. It's not so popular as other models so they leave it for good...
Shame.
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samsung must sold new models, who cares for the old one

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Of course it's not right. I don't care about Samsung's reasons. SG3 is not an old legacy handset, it is about a year old device! There is no reason to abandon it, and contrary to many people's beliefs, it's quite popular because it's relatively cheap for an Android phone so many people have it and use it - Samsung sees this as another opportunity to sell even more handsets to even more people because it will deny many people simple software upgrades. Samsung is acting like Apple and it's a bad behavior, I and many other people will never buy another product - at least a phone - from Samsung. I recommend everyone to pass SG3 and to boycott Samsung in any way they can because Samsung deserves it. Many other manufactures act similarly, but not to this extent and they do release unofficial hacks and they "borrow" their devs to the community to hack some updates even if they refuse to do it publicly. SE X10, the device released in the beginning of 2009 with android 1.5 got it's 2.3.4 update recently! How can Sony-Ericsson do that for practically dead phone? How is that suddenly "Rational" to SE?
Samsuck can screw themselves with their piss poor overpriced hardware, if I wanted to be treated like this I would have bought Apple iPhone 3GS and I would at least have a decent piece of hardware.
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You are right.They just whant money money and again money..
They said that they will update our phone to 2.2 but in my country there is none update and my country isnt listed!!!!?
My point i think that they will never update our phone to 2.3 whic is sad (((
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It's all about money
"KOLKU PARI TOLKU MUZIKA" MEANS HOW MUCH MONEY THAT MUCH MUSIC

Samsung sucks, they look good on paper but they just suck. The hardware of SG3 is badly done, drivers even worse, customer support is rubish, their firmwares are all buged and laggy and unreliable. If they upgraded the phone to 2.3 it would not make much difference i tell you, drivers are really bad. My next phone is going to be HTC i think

Right now I'm thinking in the same way as you. I will change samsung to sth different. Because what i have seen after i bought this phone is a drama... But hope that cm project will be still active because in some way i like this phone.
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yeah, CM7 is really great, since its built from AOSP, no samsung crap. Marcellusbe has my greatest thanks. CM7 a4 is the best ROM i've used, no lags/crap/fcs like in samsungs firmware. I just cant wait for it to get to beta or rc. I won't be buying a new phone for a while now, so the devs are my only hope. Developers>Samsung

Waited for more than 4 months for official update to 2.2 without flashing on my own, since it was promised by Samsung.
And when it arrived my country, what did I get? Crappy, bugged, laggy rom!!!
All this waiting for what?! Flashed straight away to a better firmware like JPM, which wasnt meant for my country. Then after, its all Custom ROMS. And by & far, they are much much much 100x better than what samsung released for public.
I have hope in our DEVs, and Im sure we will get 2.3...big thanks to the DEVs who keep alive our G3.