so I have not seen one ROM on the entire forums (in any flavor) that is an SD card ROM and can be booted and work from magldr.
But why would I need that when we have NAND? a few reasons:
1) If you have a NAND ROM you really like but want Sense for a day, or AOSP. etc.. it's kind of a pain to do a backup, wipe, flash, then restore later, be much easier to just boot one from MAGLDR.
2) the real reason I want this. If you have WP7 flashed on your phone, you could still use Android (since WP7 is pretty cool, but it's nowhere near Android) by turning off your phone, taking out your WP7 sd card and switching it with another one with the Android ROM on it, boot into MAGLDR, launch AD SD and you're good to go, when you're ready for WP7 just switch back to the original WP7 raided card and boot WPH.
I can't get any of the haret roms to load right or work when doing AD SD, the only thing we can use that for right now is CWM, which is cool, but really I can't be the only person who wants this. And CM7 just happens to be my favorite version of Android atm. Of course as resources allow donations would be forthcoming (even though we know you guys don't do this for money, it's nice to show appreciation).
Just want something nice and stable (or somewhat). The MDJ CM7 ROM i was running from SD had like no issues. Hell I'd take a CM 6.1 or even Sense or anything really at this point.
+1.... We need more sd bootable roms in general. There has been no work on sd androids since nand came out. I, too, want to use wp7 on nand with android from sd.
I support the idea of more SD ROMs bootable via MAGLDR too - ideally I want to tri-boot with WP7 for fun and fiddling, a DHD ROM for normal use and a AOSP ROM for development.
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Hey everyone, I am glad NAND is finally released (for those that have been waiting for it), but I'm wondering if theres anyone (yes I know the pros of having NAND Android) that prefers being able to dual boot? I'm starting to feel that work will halt on the SD/RAM builds. Any reassurance? Thanks guys.
I'd like to keep SD builds as well.
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Naw I think a lot of us non-TMOUS HD2 owners will still use SD builds. Reason being, we just don't have a lot of storage space, which many of us need. Unless Devs perform the ext4 partition thingie onto or sd card, for us to expand storage, storage will still be small for non-TMOUS HD2 NAND users i guess.
Yes, RAM builds are the biggest source of competition for NAND - however, I haven't filled up my storage yet with my apps and still have about 90/100MB left of phone storage.
What about installing apps to SD card???
Signal strength is much better on NAND though for me.
Can you report how many %of the.time without signal with sd and %with nand? I believe you but I didnt test nand roughly because of the memory limitation. But I guess thats gone now
I hope the response will be "No". I use the PSX Emulator (FPSece) on WinMo so I prefer switch on Andoid or on WinMo.
Nand is obviously the next stage of evolution in rom development towards running Android natively on our hd2's.
sd card builds have the great advantage of being swapped easily, especially with multiple sd cards (I have two, one stable daily use which is fully configured and one experimental)
Moreover the risk of bricking your previous device is rather low from sd..
I am not very clear about the difficulty of transferring a build from an sd build to nand and vice versa, but if there could be a migration tutorial, as a sticky we could have both, latest builds in nand and the choice of running them from sd..
Is this technically possible? Which factors could inhibit easy migration?
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I thought originally MAGLDR was supposed to be able to multiboot Android and WinMo (probably a non-sense version of each due to space)?
I hope MADLR can do the following soon:
- Load SD\RAM\NAND Android from custom folders on the fly
- Allow backup\restore of the data store
- Load WMP 6.5 and maybe even 7
I think this will keep the flexibility of multiple build loads alive which will benefit the user and the devs. I know some of this should be coming but it would be nice to get all of our belated Christmas wishes.
not sure but,,
im not sure but the aMAGLDR menu does also have the option to boot from SD-card, i havent tried it yet though..
also one thing i still want is the ability to boot my ubuntu-sd-card build, now i cant use haret.exe im not sure how to go about the dual booting thing ??
much stuff to try out
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ok, just put the contents of an old sd card build directly onto the root of an sd card (ie, without the 'android' folder) booted phone holing power key until magldr menu shows, then select boot AD from SD and it boots just like the old sd card with haret method, -
so far i see it finds zimage and initrd.gz, then i get the boot screen, .... looks like dual booting is still an option even if it may need a bit of tweaking.. i guess its just the startup.txt that needs to be read for it to boot properly ,
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I think in the original NAND release thread, Cotulla explains that a SD build (haret.exe) and a NAND build are very different, to use the SD boot option in MAGLDR, you need to put the content of a NAND build on the SD card, somehow...
edit: forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=10202441#post10202441
I would like it if they could implement a better DFT installer, which had options such as
• Install to NAND
• Install to SD
• Customise partitions
• Multiboot
Instead of just being able to install to NAND. This way, we can have a single installer / release for both methods (and this would make it easier for chefs )
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Can you report how many %of the.time without signal with sd and %with nand? I believe you but I didnt test nand roughly because of the memory limitation. But I guess thats gone now
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I think it's impossible to say for how long - but on Darkstone 1.5 RAM, and MDJ's HD4.6 I would find the signal to have disappeared at least once a day up to three times - requiring a reboot of the phone - airplane mode did not seem to work.
After reboot signal would return to full strength in the same exact spot.
Problem is the signal would be lost in a pocket or on my desk and you simply would not notice it until you went to use the device - in fact the first time I realised it was happening was because I was getting far fewer emails/smses and calls and the phone was utterly quiet - very peculiar for the holiday season and party planning.
I haven't as yet downloaded a NAND build although i may well do that this evening, however having downloading many different builds for Android over the last few months i can safely say Dark Stone's SUPERAM blows everything out of the water in terms of speed it really is very fast which IMO is very important.
Hi there,
I was wondering if it would be possible in the near future to have WP7 running of an SD card like with Android. Because now I've finally found a near to perfect Android build (SuperRAM by darkstone) because my battery life is even better than on WM! I would like to have the option to still choose this one as my daily driver, but I would really love to have a go with WP7. It would be great to have an Android build, WP7 build and maybe a Meego build (in the future) all on the same SD card, with windows still running on NAND. I'm no real techie so I dunno if it is too much to ask, but I would really like to know my possibilities. Thanks in advance.
Same here. I think il always want wm 6.5 as a default os. Theres no way im flashing wp7 until its run off sd card or ram. I really want an answer on this. Triple boot!
hd2 wm6.5 android and wm7 all in one?
so right now i have the wm6.5 as my main os and have android to use when ever i need or want to show it off. after iam done i shut down android and turn the phone on again and wm6.5 reloads. can i do that with wm7? i want to keep wm6.5 the way i have it now and be able to load android or wm7 when ever i want and the go back to wm6.5. is that possible? THIS WAS A POST I MADE ON ANOTHER THREAD. I HERE WOULD LIKE TO KNOWIF THIS IS POSSIBLE
I want the exact same thing. But after doing a bit of reading it looks unlikely at the moment. Its nand only. I guess we can just pray there will be a sd ram version in the works
it can be done its been posted on here somewhere but its a very long winded process.
search for a dual boot.thinking of doing this myself
just a hypothesis, but since wp7 formats the sd card when it is fllashed, and then acts as if it is internaal storage, even if you could boot wp7 from an sd card, you would need another one to use as internal storage. if it was possible to partition the sd card and use one of the partitions to boot wp7 and the other for storage, you wouldn't have any data space for android (pics, songs etc.) So back to square one...
Exactly what I am looking for
WM6.5 main OS, with Android and/or WP7 running off SD Card.
Hi guys, sorry if this is a dumb question but havent had my coffee yet.
Im just wondering if anybody knew of any development going on to be able to flash WP7 from SD crad via MAGLDR?
I think this owuld be a great addition.
I'm at work at the moment and was going to flash WP7 as im bored and realised I didnt bring my USB cable
Since WP7 format your SD during installation process, I think it's impossible ^^
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Since WP7 format your SD during installation process, I think it's impossible ^^
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Yeah, the way wp7 uses the sd card would make it very difficult to find a way to make it work.... there's probably a better chance of them figuring out a way to boot wp7 directly from SD (which given the fact that wp7 uses the sd as main memory anyways, performance would probably be the same with a good sd card if the figured out how to do this.... I would love to have android on NAND so I can use clockwork, but I don't want to give up the ability to boot wp7... especially after reading about the multitasking ability that is going to be added with an update... their doing multitasking like WebOS did it, with playing card looking screens that you can scroll through... it looks great)
Not really true.
WP7 only formats your card if it hasnt already been formatted. When ive been trying/testing dual boot in past, I had a pre-formatted WP7 card with WP7 partitions already on and after flashing it didnt format. Well unless im not remembering correctly and dreamt it.
So its probably just a matter of magldr support for it. Unless its a limitation of only been able to perform the partitioing via PC-DFT/USB-MAGLDR flasher.
I do agree though, the coming possibility of running WP7 from SD would be great. Its bit like when we first got Android (me back on Blackstone), ie have your secondary OS on card and primary on NAND. I slowly started to use Android more and more and then just started booting into it by default either manually or via bootloader, then eventually on NAND. I cant see myself getting rid of Android for WP7 any time soon but it would be cool to be able to play with it without having to resort to putting Android back on card.
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Well unless im not remembering correctly and dreamt it.
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You had indeed curious dreams...
Installed more than 10 times WP7 and always a SD format...on all roms...
Furthermore it's clearly stated in most of cooked roms and installation tutos topics
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You had indeed curious dreams...
Installed more than 10 times WP7 and always a SD format...on all roms...
Furthermore it's clearly stated in most of cooked roms and installation tutos topics
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Fook knows then, Im sure I managed to use a pre-prepared card without it flashing it at some point, Ill have a go later and see if I can replicate what I did.
Anyway, this doesnt really make a difference because im sure somebody could come up with a modded version that bypasses SD format/check etc.
Will just have to wait and see.
IMO flashing without formatting would be awesome especially to avoid reinstalling apps and reconfigurating system everytime :/
Let's be patient...
I am about to install Android on my HTC HD2, and the advise I was given was that I must use the SD method. I just want to be sure.
I need a system where when I start the Phone Winmo starts up, and then I run another program to run Android, and then I can go back and forth (via reboot or some other way).
Thanks for your advise and information!
Chaz
So far as I know, you'll have to go with the SD variant if you want to keep WinMo. That way, WinMo is only a re-boot away. It's the method I prefer as I'm not so taken with either Android or WinPhone to go for the full NAND flash.
yeah, you would need to use the SD card method, i would recomend using RAM builds because they are very fast!
Yes, you must avoid the NAND versions, cause these will erase your Windows Mobile ROM and replace it by a Android ROM.
Thus, you have to choose a build inside the "HD2 Android SD Development" thread.
But here inside it is not always simple. Cause for some SD builds you will need to flash MAGLDR to be able to boot these builds, while for others the old method of executing CLRCAD and HARET is much simpler.
I have been using a NAND Android ROM since they came out and love it, but I'm curious about Windows 7. My questions are as follows:
Does Windows 7 run off the SD card or NAND?
Can I go back to Android if I don't like it?
Does everything work on 7?
Is there a working Pandora hack?
Thanks for anyone's help on this.
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1) It runs from NAND
2) Yes, simply flash your preferred NAND via MAGLDR
3) Yes, if you get your activation code to use Live services
4) The jailbreak is called "Chevron" and is cooked into most custom ROMs - but not the very first "Leo70".
The nice thing about the HD2 is you can install wp7 on your NAND, and still boot android off your SD... I went from NAND android back to SD android builds so I could also use wp7, and I've noticed almost no difference in performance and battery life between NAND android and SD android. Only thing you miss out in with SD android is that there's no clockwork recovery... but it's easy enough to boot different builds and make backups with SD android.
WP7 is great, but it's still missing some functionality and apps that android has, so having both is perfect. At this point, I would have a very hard time choosing between the 2 OS's if I had to get a different phone. WP7 grows on you very quickly. Can't wait for MS to put out the update that gives multitasking to WP7.