Death of SD/RAM Builds? - HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera

Hey everyone, I am glad NAND is finally released (for those that have been waiting for it), but I'm wondering if theres anyone (yes I know the pros of having NAND Android) that prefers being able to dual boot? I'm starting to feel that work will halt on the SD/RAM builds. Any reassurance? Thanks guys.

I'd like to keep SD builds as well.
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Naw I think a lot of us non-TMOUS HD2 owners will still use SD builds. Reason being, we just don't have a lot of storage space, which many of us need. Unless Devs perform the ext4 partition thingie onto or sd card, for us to expand storage, storage will still be small for non-TMOUS HD2 NAND users i guess.

Yes, RAM builds are the biggest source of competition for NAND - however, I haven't filled up my storage yet with my apps and still have about 90/100MB left of phone storage.
What about installing apps to SD card???
Signal strength is much better on NAND though for me.

Can you report how many %of the.time without signal with sd and %with nand? I believe you but I didnt test nand roughly because of the memory limitation. But I guess thats gone now

I hope the response will be "No". I use the PSX Emulator (FPSece) on WinMo so I prefer switch on Andoid or on WinMo.

Nand is obviously the next stage of evolution in rom development towards running Android natively on our hd2's.
sd card builds have the great advantage of being swapped easily, especially with multiple sd cards (I have two, one stable daily use which is fully configured and one experimental)
Moreover the risk of bricking your previous device is rather low from sd..
I am not very clear about the difficulty of transferring a build from an sd build to nand and vice versa, but if there could be a migration tutorial, as a sticky we could have both, latest builds in nand and the choice of running them from sd..
Is this technically possible? Which factors could inhibit easy migration?
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I thought originally MAGLDR was supposed to be able to multiboot Android and WinMo (probably a non-sense version of each due to space)?

I hope MADLR can do the following soon:
- Load SD\RAM\NAND Android from custom folders on the fly
- Allow backup\restore of the data store
- Load WMP 6.5 and maybe even 7
I think this will keep the flexibility of multiple build loads alive which will benefit the user and the devs. I know some of this should be coming but it would be nice to get all of our belated Christmas wishes.

not sure but,,
im not sure but the aMAGLDR menu does also have the option to boot from SD-card, i havent tried it yet though..
also one thing i still want is the ability to boot my ubuntu-sd-card build, now i cant use haret.exe im not sure how to go about the dual booting thing ??
much stuff to try out
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ok, just put the contents of an old sd card build directly onto the root of an sd card (ie, without the 'android' folder) booted phone holing power key until magldr menu shows, then select boot AD from SD and it boots just like the old sd card with haret method, -
so far i see it finds zimage and initrd.gz, then i get the boot screen, .... looks like dual booting is still an option even if it may need a bit of tweaking.. i guess its just the startup.txt that needs to be read for it to boot properly ,
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I think in the original NAND release thread, Cotulla explains that a SD build (haret.exe) and a NAND build are very different, to use the SD boot option in MAGLDR, you need to put the content of a NAND build on the SD card, somehow...
edit: forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=10202441#post10202441

I would like it if they could implement a better DFT installer, which had options such as
• Install to NAND
• Install to SD
• Customise partitions
• Multiboot
Instead of just being able to install to NAND. This way, we can have a single installer / release for both methods (and this would make it easier for chefs )

HectiQ said:
Can you report how many %of the.time without signal with sd and %with nand? I believe you but I didnt test nand roughly because of the memory limitation. But I guess thats gone now
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I think it's impossible to say for how long - but on Darkstone 1.5 RAM, and MDJ's HD4.6 I would find the signal to have disappeared at least once a day up to three times - requiring a reboot of the phone - airplane mode did not seem to work.
After reboot signal would return to full strength in the same exact spot.
Problem is the signal would be lost in a pocket or on my desk and you simply would not notice it until you went to use the device - in fact the first time I realised it was happening was because I was getting far fewer emails/smses and calls and the phone was utterly quiet - very peculiar for the holiday season and party planning.

I haven't as yet downloaded a NAND build although i may well do that this evening, however having downloading many different builds for Android over the last few months i can safely say Dark Stone's SUPERAM blows everything out of the water in terms of speed it really is very fast which IMO is very important.

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[Request]Dual boot WP7/Android NAND and Android SD (Only one working SD rom)

I'm making this thread here because I can't see anything being done to remedy this problem.
I have tried more than 5 roms that I have used in the past in SD era with MAGLDR 1.12 in the option "AD SD" and none worked. This SHOULD be easy, but it's not.
I have tried to change kernels for the new ones, thinking this would be the right way to do so, since the old ones expected haret and windows to work. This didn't work too.
To name a few...
NexusHD2-FRG83D V1.8 from Tytung (the best in the old days for a clean froyo, IMHO)
MDJ Desire HD 4.6
Topia HD and others...
None of them worked, the ONLY ONE that worked was [DL DesireZ v2.1][SD/NAND] (note, not tested version 2.2, ONLY 2.1)
It took a looong time to boot, but worked fine.
Now that we have WP7 (not everyone will want this permanently) we should have SD roms that are compatible with MAGLDR. Even because MAGLDR is way faster than waiting for WM 6.5 to boot.
I loved WM 6.5 in the days, but now, several of us don't want to deal with it anymore, and are just here for the two new OSs.
I would like to see some development in the SD ROMs again, so they can have newer and better kernels (the ones used with MAGLDR) and full compatibility with future development for MAGLDR and NAND.
We could even have two Android builds, for those who don't want WP7.
One for NAND and one for SD, like a Gingerbread and a stabler Froyo
Anyone agree with it?
Greetings, Santroph.
santroph said:
I'm making this thread here because I can't see anything being done to remedy this problem.
I have tried more than 5 roms that I have used in the past in SD era with MAGLDR 1.12 in the option "AD SD" and none worked. This SHOULD be easy, but it's not.
I have tried to change kernels for the new ones, thinking this would be the right way to do so, since the old ones expected haret and windows to work. This didn't work too.
To name a few...
NexusHD2-FRG83D V1.8 from Tytung (the best in the old days for a clean froyo, IMHO)
MDJ Desire HD 4.6
Topia HD and others...
None of them worked, the ONLY ONE that worked was [DL DesireZ v2.1][SD/NAND] (note, not tested version 2.2, ONLY 2.1)
It took a looong time to boot, but worked fine.
Now that we have WP7 (not everyone will want this permanently) we should have SD roms that are compatible with MAGLDR. Even because MAGLDR is way faster than waiting for WM 6.5 to boot.
I loved WM 6.5 in the days, but now, several of us don't want to deal with it anymore, and are just here for the two new OSs.
I would like to see some development in the SD ROMs again, so they can have newer and better kernels (the ones used with MAGLDR) and full compatibility with future development for MAGLDR and NAND.
We could even have two Android builds, for those who don't want WP7.
One for NAND and one for SD, like a Gingerbread and a stabler Froyo
Anyone agree with it?
Greetings, Santroph.
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Problem:
Phone7 formats the sd card in an unknown file format.
That makes it presumably impossible to linux to load from there...
You would have to switch sd card
I agree with the suggestion of having dual boot (WP7/Android), in fact I even thought about it yesterday ...
What about having 3 partitions on SD ? 2 for WP7 and 1 for Android ...
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Problem:
Phone7 formats the sd card in an unknown file format.
That makes it presumably impossible to linux to load from there...
You would have to switch sd card
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Yeah I know about this, but several of us, myself included have several SD cards.
I can pass for the trouble of changing SD cards from time to time to boot a completly different OS, with several other possibilities.
And I was talking about Android NAND / Android SD combinations as well.
Like I said we could have a Gingerbread experimental in nand, but keep a really stable Froyo in SD as our main build, or the other way around, a lot of us have big enough cards to do that.
Santroph.
I'm tested lot android SD too.
PSfreedom worked only but if the DL DesireZ v2.1 is working..what's the problem?
loyalhudy said:
I'm tested lot android SD too.
PSfreedom worked only but if the DL DesireZ v2.1 is working..what's the problem?
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The problem is that we only have a few SD roms working. And for example DL DesireZ v2.1 works, but DL DesireZ v2.2, which is newer and just lauched, doesn't work, the support is gone
And we don't have as much roms as we had to choose in the past. I am trying to use WP7, to see if it is a viable alternative to my daily use, but I don't want to give up Android. Since we can't have WP7 and AD Nand at the same time, SD is the only alternative, and we have to get whatever is working instead of a lot of good builds like we have in Nand now.
If the devs start to make more sd builds closer to the Nand ones (same kernels and modules, which they can do now, since they will all be using the same hardware startup MAGLDR) we would have a lot of alternatives too.
Like I said, one of the best roms we ever had, tytung NexusHD2 froyo, doesn't work.
Santroph.
P.S: I'm willing to help any dev that need help. I'm a developer too, but a software one, not a cooker
I'm not a dev but I try to get it ...I took 4GB sd and booted wp7, connect sd via usb reader to pc, copied the wp7 filesystem to my 16gb sd card...wp7 says I got 3.5GB disk space ^^...means: wp7 uses 3.5GB, 11,5GB free sd space . formatted other partition as fat32, but windows7 didn't find it. Now I'm trying around to get it working ...will post news
EDIT: WP7 got 3.5GB disk space, now booting MDJ Froyo HD 4.6 from sd card ...So I got WP7/ Android dualboot
domenukk said:
Problem:
Phone7 formats the sd card in an unknown file format.
That makes it presumably impossible to linux to load from there...
You would have to switch sd card
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I succeed to flash WP7 rom without SD card inserted. Inserting back the SD card after installation shows that SD storge with full size(not under WP7) and SD android rom (DL DesireZ v2.1) works fine with MAGLDR 1.12. Booting WP7 again will not destroy it, too. This may be a temporary method, while the free space left in WP7 becomes around 130MB which may not satisfy many demands .
was the WM7 functional?
http://www.darkforcesteam.com.cn/thread-25910-1-1.html
I'm going to attempt those steps tomorrow, but I don't know if I'll be following them properly as the translation isn't too good.
But maybe someone else can understand it and translate it properly
jcsy said:
was the WM7 functional?
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fully functional. this method is like the one metioned above from DFT forum
ike2903 said:
I'm not a dev but I try to get it ...I took 4GB sd and booted wp7, connect sd via usb reader to pc, copied the wp7 filesystem to my 16gb sd card...wp7 says I got 3.5GB disk space ^^...means: wp7 uses 3.5GB, 11,5GB free sd space . formatted other partition as fat32, but windows7 didn't find it. Now I'm trying around to get it working ...will post news
EDIT: WP7 got 3.5GB disk space, now booting MDJ Froyo HD 4.6 from sd card ...So I got WP7/ Android dualboot
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in WP7 installation steps it is mentioned that if you remove the sd card the windows will be destroyed? can you please confirm that after trying android and going back to WP7 there are no issues?
I agree... we need more devs developing for sd android again.
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I'm not a dev but I try to get it ...I took 4GB sd and booted wp7, connect sd via usb reader to pc, copied the wp7 filesystem to my 16gb sd card...wp7 says I got 3.5GB disk space ^^...means: wp7 uses 3.5GB, 11,5GB free sd space . formatted other partition as fat32, but windows7 didn't find it. Now I'm trying around to get it working ...will post news
EDIT: WP7 got 3.5GB disk space, now booting MDJ Froyo HD 4.6 from sd card ...So I got WP7/ Android dualboot
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This could be the best way to do things...
Can you please make a kind of Tutorial?
I understood what you said, and I can probably replicate it (surely will try) but some people would be really glad to have a tutorial.
I have a single problem with your approach, my biggest card, the 16gb one, was the one used for WP7, so I will have to reformat, and since I already got my WP7 working with marketplace and activated, I don't want to mess with it.
If I only had used the 8gb or 2gb card, I would be able to do it....
Santroph.
The best way to know how to do this, would be to have a HD2 that has not a fully working copy of WP7, so we can test it as much as we can.
The biggest problem for me now, is that I don't have how to make a backup of my WP7 installation, or else I would do it and make a tutorial on how to use the dual boot.
Even with the option of using only one card, the SD rom version must be compatible, which in the present time, they are not (most of them).
Santroph.
i've readed all of thread.. but yet i don't understand if it works or not.. especially with ike2903 tutorial to format SD card method...
santroph said:
This could be the best way to do things...
Can you please make a kind of Tutorial?
I understood what you said, and I can probably replicate it (surely will try) but some people would be really glad to have a tutorial.
I have a single problem with your approach, my biggest card, the 16gb one, was the one used for WP7, so I will have to reformat, and since I already got my WP7 working with marketplace and activated, I don't want to mess with it.
If I only had used the 8gb or 2gb card, I would be able to do it....
Santroph.
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Yes, Tutorial please Thanks
jenzy1985 said:
Yes, Tutorial please Thanks
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+1, been thinking of doing this and would be nice to follow your lead.
daysey said:
+1, been thinking of doing this and would be nice to follow your lead.
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+ 9!!!
ike2903 said:
I'm not a dev but I try to get it ...I took 4GB sd and booted wp7, connect sd via usb reader to pc, copied the wp7 filesystem to my 16gb sd card...wp7 says I got 3.5GB disk space ^^...means: wp7 uses 3.5GB, 11,5GB free sd space . formatted other partition as fat32, but windows7 didn't find it. Now I'm trying around to get it working ...will post news
EDIT: WP7 got 3.5GB disk space, now booting MDJ Froyo HD 4.6 from sd card ...So I got WP7/ Android dualboot
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the pc actually read the WP7 parition (or recognized that one existed)?

[Request] SD - CM7 ROM bootable from MAGLDR

so I have not seen one ROM on the entire forums (in any flavor) that is an SD card ROM and can be booted and work from magldr.
But why would I need that when we have NAND? a few reasons:
1) If you have a NAND ROM you really like but want Sense for a day, or AOSP. etc.. it's kind of a pain to do a backup, wipe, flash, then restore later, be much easier to just boot one from MAGLDR.
2) the real reason I want this. If you have WP7 flashed on your phone, you could still use Android (since WP7 is pretty cool, but it's nowhere near Android) by turning off your phone, taking out your WP7 sd card and switching it with another one with the Android ROM on it, boot into MAGLDR, launch AD SD and you're good to go, when you're ready for WP7 just switch back to the original WP7 raided card and boot WPH.
I can't get any of the haret roms to load right or work when doing AD SD, the only thing we can use that for right now is CWM, which is cool, but really I can't be the only person who wants this. And CM7 just happens to be my favorite version of Android atm. Of course as resources allow donations would be forthcoming (even though we know you guys don't do this for money, it's nice to show appreciation).
Just want something nice and stable (or somewhat). The MDJ CM7 ROM i was running from SD had like no issues. Hell I'd take a CM 6.1 or even Sense or anything really at this point.
+1.... We need more sd bootable roms in general. There has been no work on sd androids since nand came out. I, too, want to use wp7 on nand with android from sd.
I support the idea of more SD ROMs bootable via MAGLDR too - ideally I want to tri-boot with WP7 for fun and fiddling, a DHD ROM for normal use and a AOSP ROM for development.

Will Windows Phone 7 be available to boot from SD Card via MAGLDR ?

Hi ! I think the title is all I want to say ! ;D Simple Question.. but I'm waiting for a reply from someone who may know the answer..
PS: The reason I'm asking this is because, I'm currently using Android 2.2 NexusHD2 V1.9G NAND Build, so I'm happy a lot with it, but I want to test Windows Phone 7 of course, so I noticed that there isn't an SD Build of WP7, there is only NAND Build, so I must backup all my data from the SD Card & format it & you know.. takes time to prepare the device for the WP7, & backed up my NAND Android Build & converted it into a SD Android Build, so if I will like WP7, I will remain & will use it, & will use my Android Build on SD from now on.. but of course.. I will see if I will like it... who knows.. maybe I will not..
So again, why I'm asking is because I don't want to see that I've wasted time on making my device run WP7 on NAND & Android on SD & after a few days to see how developers release a version of Windows Phone 7 which can be booted directly from SD Card... if you got my point of view..
Yeah I'm hoping for this too, I just want WP7 to play with, not as my primary OS (yet).
Android NAND versions came faster than expected, and virtually out of nowhere, WP7 NAND came. The developers behind those solutions are quite busy doing a lot of stuff for us, but you never should expect anything with exact timing.
Be thankful that all those solutions do exist at all. And from time to time, users like you and me should contribute in one or another way to make other things possible.
Last, but not least, the flashing process is so fast with an HD2, and there are so many really good backup solutions, that I cannot fully understand your request. If you´re intending to test a couple of days only, why hesitate? You can easily go back to another OS within really short time. Any other, in fact.
Already Testing WP7 !
tictac0566 said:
Android NAND versions came faster than expected, and virtually out of nowhere, WP7 NAND came. The developers behind those solutions are quite busy doing a lot of stuff for us, but you never should expect anything with exact timing.
Be thankful that all those solutions do exist at all. And from time to time, users like you and me should contribute in one or another way to make other things possible.
Last, but not least, the flashing process is so fast with an HD2, and there are so many really good backup solutions, that I cannot fully understand your request. If you´re intending to test a couple of days only, why hesitate? You can easily go back to another OS within really short time. Any other, in fact.
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Well, you know what, I think you're right, & I'm already on Windows Phone 7 now.. I've backed up all my Android 2.2's Data with the ClockWork Mod's Recovery Feature & copied it to my PC, so now everything is backed up & I will stay a few days on WP7 & test it to see if I will really like it, & I will repartition my SD for to use both WP7 & Android & will put a good build of Android to be on SD so I can boot into via MAGLDR when I will want to... & will copy my Android Used Build's Data.img to the new Android Build which I will use it on SD..
So, anyway, thanks for fast reply... Good Luck to you Friends !

Android on SD Card + Original ROM

Hi there
So I'm reading for a while the topics about android on SD Card, but I couldn't fix some issues and I hope you'll get me out:
1) Can I use the original ROM from my HD2 and install Android on a SD Card
2) Is there a possibility to install Android on the SD Card and get a boot loader where I can choose between a WinMo boot and an Android boot or do I have to boot always WinMo 6.5 before booting Android?
3) I read that the speed with the SD Card Mode is slower than the other ways, how can I understand that? Do I have to wait longer during the boot of android or are there also speed problems while working with android?
4) Also on the speed problem: Which SD Card would you recommend for Android on SD? Are there any measurable speed differences between the CD Classes?
best regards
Blacklight-IT said:
Hi there
So I'm reading for a while the topics about android on SD Card, but I couldn't fix some issues and I hope you'll get me out:
1) Can I use the original ROM from my HD2 and install Android on a SD Card
2) Is there a possibility to install Android on the SD Card and get a boot loader where I can choose between a WinMo boot and an Android boot or do I have to boot always WinMo 6.5 before booting Android?
3) I read that the speed with the SD Card Mode is slower than the other ways, how can I understand that? Do I have to wait longer during the boot of android or are there also speed problems while working with android?
4) Also on the speed problem: Which SD Card would you recommend for Android on SD? Are there any measurable speed differences between the CD Classes?
best regards
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Yes you can install android on SD and use WM6.5. Its what most of us did back when you couldn't NAND boot android. There are several bootloaders around yes, however you always have to boot into windows in order to boot SD android. This means android SD boot time is much much longer than NAND, however this is not really that big of a problem. As with the speed problems with the ROM itself, well lets just say i much rather prefer NAND to SD, I used SD for a long time and NAND was something that made me very happy. I didnt really see a problem with SD builds however I simply felt more secure using NAND. Also, with an SD build the speed of the phone is dependent on your SD card class, most SD cards are class 2, mine is class 6 and my SD build worked fine however I have seen people saying its slower with a lower class card. I don't know whether its actually a real issue, like you need a class 4 card to run android properly however people sometimes complain. This however could simply be their ROM's/Phones being slow.
Does this version (FEB 14)[SD]MCCM HD V4.0 [DESIRE HD Sense] Perfect [kernel gauner1986's] work at anyobody with the original ROM ( 3.14.207.1 ) and 2.15.50.14 Radio ?
My actual version is the
[Dec 18][RAM] darkstone SuperRAM FroYo v1.5 [kernel: Hastarin custom]
and it works.
The installation of the MCCM is exactly the same but it doesn't work.
When my device reboots there is the HTC logo on a white background and i have waited for an hour but nothing happend.
Samdeath said:
Yes you can install android on SD and use WM6.5. Its what most of us did back when you couldn't NAND boot android. There are several bootloaders around yes, however you always have to boot into windows in order to boot SD android. This means android SD boot time is much much longer than NAND, however this is not really that big of a problem. As with the speed problems with the ROM itself, well lets just say i much rather prefer NAND to SD, I used SD for a long time and NAND was something that made me very happy. I didnt really see a problem with SD builds however I simply felt more secure using NAND. Also, with an SD build the speed of the phone is dependent on your SD card class, most SD cards are class 2, mine is class 6 and my SD build worked fine however I have seen people saying its slower with a lower class card. I don't know whether its actually a real issue, like you need a class 4 card to run android properly however people sometimes complain. This however could simply be their ROM's/Phones being slow.
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Sounds good. So what I don't understand: Booting Android from SD Card - does WinMo Shutdown or does it still run in the background? So is the full capacity of the CPU & RAM available or not?
I think a Class 6 16GB should be enough for that game. I actually like my original ROM and would like to try android just for fun, so I think the NAND Method wouldn’t be that, what I’m looking for.
Do I have to buy a card reader for my SD Card?
Any other experiences with Android on a SD Card?
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Any other experiences with Android on a SD Card?
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My opinion about Android on a SD card is very positive.
My version is very stable.
Until now I hadn't problems with any bugs.
The browser is very fast, the camera good, the connection to WiFi is perfect and all games work
But it's clear that you have to charge your mobile often
Blacklight-IT said:
Sounds good. So what I don't understand: Booting Android from SD Card - does WinMo Shutdown or does it still run in the background? So is the full capacity of the CPU & RAM available or not?
I think a Class 6 16GB should be enough for that game. I actually like my original ROM and would like to try android just for fun, so I think the NAND Method wouldn’t be that, what I’m looking for.
Do I have to buy a card reader for my SD Card?
Any other experiences with Android on a SD Card?
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SD android also has a high battery drain, I dont know the exact figures but i think in standby sd builds are 5-10mA, where most NAND builds are 2-5. You wouldn't NEED to get a card reader, however it would be an extreme help. SD android is very good, however NAND is better for me because personally, android blows the socks off WM6.5, so I just decided to go all out. SD android runs on top of WM6.5 yes, however WM6.5 is shut down so you do get the full power of ram/cpu etc.
I love SD, partly because I love my build (Black&Blue Remix), and have been rock-solid on it since November. I keep trying other SD Builds, as well as NAND builds, but I'm so hapyp with my set-up I have no desire to change, at least until builds with updated Sense/GingerBread/Honeycomb come out
I've got the Extended Battery pack so maybe that sways my judgement.
But I have no qualms in recommending SD!
King-Chris111 said:
Does this version (FEB 14)[SD]MCCM HD V4.0 [DESIRE HD Sense] Perfect [kernel gauner1986's] work at anyobody with the original ROM ( 3.14.207.1 ) and 2.15.50.14 Radio ?
My actual version is the
[Dec 18][RAM] darkstone SuperRAM FroYo v1.5 [kernel: Hastarin custom]
and it works.
The installation of the MCCM is exactly the same but it doesn't work.
When my device reboots there is the HTC logo on a white background and i have waited for an hour but nothing happend.
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Has no one any information ?
Samdeath said:
SD android also has a high battery drain, I dont know the exact figures but i think in standby sd builds are 5-10mA, where most NAND builds are 2-5. You wouldn't NEED to get a card reader, however it would be an extreme help. SD android is very good, however NAND is better for me because personally, android blows the socks off WM6.5, so I just decided to go all out. SD android runs on top of WM6.5 yes, however WM6.5 is shut down so you do get the full power of ram/cpu etc.
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Sounds good. Thanks
To make this part clear: I can only download a Android ROM, put it on my SD Card, insert it in my HD2 and here we go? HSPL is only needed when I'm trying to flash android?
smeddy said:
I love SD, partly because I love my build (Black&Blue Remix), and have been rock-solid on it since November. I keep trying other SD Builds, as well as NAND builds, but I'm so hapyp with my set-up I have no desire to change, at least until builds with updated Sense/GingerBread/Honeycomb come out
I've got the Extended Battery pack so maybe that sways my judgement.
But I have no qualms in recommending SD!
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So the question to you is:
What do you understand under high battery drain? I recharge my phone every night, not depending if it's empty or not (does this have an influence on battery life btw?), so... does the battery last for 2-3 hours of surfing, emails ... on sd android ?

NAND or SD?

Yes I've searched and have not found a definite answer.
Sorry I'm new to the HD2 coming from a Vibrant but was wondering what is faster and more efficient?
NAND or SD?
Alanrocks15 said:
Yes I've searched and have not found a definite answer.
Sorry I'm new to the HD2 coming from a Vibrant but was wondering what is faster and more efficient?
NAND or SD?
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NAND has more ROMs and seems better on battery life, but both are good.
If you are going to be Android only (no WP7 Dual-Boot) I'd probably go NAND. However, here are the things I like more about sd:
1) This ROM IMO is better than any NAND I've seen: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=957652
2) You get more "phone storage" because you can basically choose how much space you have. This eliminates the need for an ext partition on your SD or any fear of running out of app space.
3) multiple ROMs. You can have like 5 roms on SD and all you do is tell the bootloader which to load or change the folder name and it boots!
For those reasons I prefer SD, but NAND offers more choices.
From what I've found, speed wise...just depends on the rom but typically NAND is faster. Stability wise NAND is from what I've used and tried. But it mainly depends on which OS you have on NAND Windows wise from what I've gathered but I don't have any interest in WM6.5 so I've ran all NAND builds lately without any issues.
I have setup a dual boot of WP7 and SD Android and it worked ok but found I typically didn't boot into WP7 as much so I wiped and went NAND Android
orangekid said:
2) You get more "phone storage" because you can basically choose how much space you have. This eliminates the need for an ext partition on your SD or any fear of running out of app space.
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With the built in Apps 2 SD in Gingerbread it's a easy transfer to memory card without having to install a ext partition. It's all built in on the Applications menu to move them to the SD card to free up app space in the memory
with nand you can also have multi roms on your sd and flash at random. i have about 3 i like best and then flash when i feel the need for a change. i personally prefer nand over sd but if you ask someone else they're likely to disagree. the big reason i like nand over sd is because i see a huge difference in battery life with nand and i also prefer android over winmo. if you like winmo and would use it then go the sd route but if you dont like it & dont plan to use it then go the nand route.

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