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I've tried a lot of android builds whilst the development has been going on and found that Bangster's 1.4 coupled with Michy's R11 was the best for me with regard to screen sensitivity and keyboard accuracy.
I recently had a dabble with m-deejay's next-gen builds Desire HD/Z etc (which are excellent by the way, credit to him), and found that I was getting a lot of screen bounce, missed button presses and a very frustating keyboard experience (Hastarin R7.1). Pressing and holding the delete key for example would result in keypresses bouncing all over the place, sometimes several keys removed from the delete key. I tried a plain Froyo Sense build and found the same thing, although not quite as bad.
So, I decided to try the bare kernel from Michyprima's R11 (AXI, Desire, OC) on my current Froyo Desire build just to see if it was down to the kernal 100%. Instant bounce removal... keyboard is accurate and now when I press & hold on the home screen, I don't get the screen wobbling from side to side as the software thinks that I'm moving my finger around rapidly.
To recap; it seems like I was getting more bounce with Hastarin's R7.1 than any other, but certainly Michy's R11 (Desire based) is making my phone usable again. It really was bad before.
More messing required methinks... I may re-load the Desire Z build on to my SD card and try R11 to see what it's like. One thing I remember is whilst trying m-deejay's Desire HD 3.1 (which had an Evo kernel IIRC), keyboard bounce was almost non-existant. It wasn't until I changed to D-HD 3.3 that the keyboard became a pain to use (Hastarin R7.1).
Hastarin if you read this, please note this is by no means a dig, I have the greatest respect for all the guys posting builds here, these are just my obvservations.
As with all things Android/HD2 related, YMMV. Your thoughts are welcome.
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Edit: I've taken a couple of quick videos of m-deejay's brand new 3.4 Desire HD build showing this phenomenon (kernal is huanyu's #21). Replacing the zImage with Michy's R11 virtually eliminates it.
Video 1 - homescreen
Video 2 - keyboard
Could this be Windows ROM related? Might flash another WinMo ROM to see if it's any different.
Edit 2 Sent my HD2 back to HTC today, hopefully for TS replacement... see relevant post here.
Edit 3 Received my HD2 back from HTC's repair department. Problem fixed. No more bouncing Relevant post here.
No-one else with similar experiences?
Me too!
previously was using M-deejay's froyo sense 2.2 and the keyboard was a great improvement from my old stock HD2 Windows keyboard, which was oversensitive and jumps alot, making typing a hassle. I did not have any problems with the froyo sense 2.2 keyboard, it was accurate and sufficiently responsive, and even have my essential chinese input.
However, after the 2.4 version was released, i updated it, and noted that the browser's bookmark crashes. So i though, why not give EVO Sense 1.6 a try?
Btw, i did not realise any problems with the 2.4 keyboard, so it's probably as good as the 2.2 version.
Then i ran EVO sense 1.6, and i feel that the keyboard is different. Firstly it's the additional arrow buttons below, which is useful, and more like the original HD2's keyboard. Then it also has chinese input.
BUT i experience alot of the "bouncing" problems, if not more than my original HD2 windows rom. tried calibrating a few times, and deleting the calibration, but it doesn't help.
i want to emphasize again i am very grateful to all the developers like M-deejay, Hastarin, for developing all these builds that are effectively working. this is likewise, just my observation.
Anyone else? I can't believe it's just us two!
Videos added to 1st post.
I tried to replicate your problem (m-deejay's Desire HD 3.4) but I coulnd't. I also thinkg that the keyboarad its not as accurate as some of the builds but its not that bad as yours.
I'm sorry to say but the lag with the keyboard kinda looks funny
My keyboard isn't very accurate too. Sometimes it just takes the wrong key. I mean when I press the backslash it takes "m" or something although i was pressing backslash. This was on Hastarin 4.1.
But it really seems to be kernel related. With the r11 my keyboard is okay.
I don't think is caused by the WM ROM, but which one do you use?
have the same prob!
yep...and I get phantom touches also.
jaka.erc said:
I tried to replicate your problem (m-deejay's Desire HD 3.4) but I coulnd't. I also thinkg that the keyboarad its not as accurate as some of the builds but its not that bad as yours.
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What WinMo ROM are you running?
JanssoN said:
I'm sorry to say but the lag with the keyboard kinda looks funny
My keyboard isn't very accurate too. Sometimes it just takes the wrong key. I mean when I press the backslash it takes "m" or something although i was pressing backslash. This was on Hastarin 4.1.
But it really seems to be kernel related. With the r11 my keyboard is okay.
I don't think is caused by the WM ROM, but which one do you use?
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anoschka666 said:
have the same prob!
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muzicman0 said:
yep...and I get phantom touches also.
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Try changing your zImage to Michyprima's R11 and post your findings
Major_Sarcasm said:
No-one else with similar experiences?
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OK ! very common HD2 touchscreen failure! ...ur touchscreen is defective ....there are many threads already on xda regarding this ...but could not be solved because this is a hardware problem ...this even happens in winmo ! here are the youtube videos having same problem
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DhhrA3u4rcI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3rJJ1eyM9FM&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QEHn9CaHFpk&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hY60I9Z0RU0&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TSvAlqw6HJw&feature=more_related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6hIE_wV4djs&feature=more_related
and here is my thread about this in detail - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=745255
so , the conclusion is ...u have to get ur screen replaced under warranty ....i had the same problem with my hd2 ...and i got so pissed ...so get ur screen changed and that is the only solution !
hope that helps -
cheers
coolbeer1990
Got it to but not in my homescreen. When I am typing with swype ... When I try to delete a word it will write 10 :X nice feature but its really anoying. But lets wait I thing dev know about it let wait for nand and the bother them with this. I heard It is a long way to nand
coolbeer1990 said:
so , the conclusion is ...u have to get ur screen replaced under warranty ....i had the same problem with my hd2 ...and i got so pissed ...so get ur screen changed and that is the only solution !
hope that helps -
cheers
coolbeer1990
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Thanks for your reply. However, my screen isn't defective as I don't have this problem in Windows and using a different kernel fixes it.
major_sarcasm said:
thanks for your reply. However, my screen isn't defective as i don't have this problem in windows and using a different kernel fixes it.
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that's great my friend
Well.. i have the same thing in hastarins latest kernel
I dont have this on DesireZ out the box.
I have MDeejay's latest Desire HD build and have this problem, how do I fix it? If I need to replace the Kernel how do I do it? What side effects will it have?
Thanks in advance
keyboard bounce also experienced by me when i am trying to type fast, using hastrin r7.1 as well, maybe is caused by the touchscreen delay?
have you tried keyboard calibration?
in the setting menu ..
it ask you to type that ..lazy brown fox jumps..
it helps me alot.. well some of it i guess
and also try the schrub bartome build. the keyboard is perfect-iphone like. im using this build for day use
I experience the same issue with the new kernel releases. But with hastarin #3 the touchscreen works normally.
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Is there a way to calibrate the screen on custom roms, i have mikes beta 4 ics
and my screen is not calibrated properly so its horrible to type with etc
HALP
aaa801 said:
Is there a way to calibrate the screen on custom roms, i have mikes beta 4 ics
and my screen is not calibrated properly so its horrible to type with etc
HALP
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No it's not possible... There are roms who should support it but I dunno if it's placebo or not.
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calibration for ics anyone.??
New HTCime released by Mike yesterday has own calibration, but I cannot get it work in landscape. Only works on vertical layout for me.
Hey
I installed this rom yesterday, my applications are much smoother, but i have a huge problem, which makes almost every game unplayable. When i try to play the game with 2 fingers, it doesnt respond well. Is there any way to fix this?
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Hey
I installed this rom yesterday, my applications are much smoother, but i have a huge problem, which makes almost every game unplayable. When i try to play the game with 2 fingers, it doesnt respond well. Is there any way to fix this?
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That's not a problem with the ROM as much as it is a general problem with the HD2 unfortunately. It only supports 2 points on the screen, and I've found it does that terribly as well.
Nigeldg said:
That's not a problem with the ROM as much as it is a general problem with the HD2 unfortunately. It only supports 2 points on the screen, and I've found it does that terribly as well.
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I dont think so, in my previous rom (Typhoon CM7) multitouch worked flawlessly in the games. After all these updates, how isnt it a priority to fix this?
Rucsok said:
I dont think so, in my previous rom (Typhoon CM7) multitouch worked flawlessly in the games. After all these updates, how isnt it a priority to fix this?
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Because it's working for almost everyone, so it isn't really a 'known problem' as such. What version of the ROM are you on? If you're on 2.1 it'll be a bit shady, but multitouch works as well as it did on Typhoon for me on v2.2 (haven't got round to the 2.3 update yet).
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Because it's working for almost everyone, so it isn't really a 'known problem' as such. What version of the ROM are you on? If you're on 2.1 it'll be a bit shady, but multitouch works as well as it did on Typhoon for me on v2.2 (haven't got round to the 2.3 update yet).
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2.2
I'll reinstall the rom (now the 2.3 version) hopefully this will fix the problem.
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2.2
I'll reinstall the rom (now the 2.3 version) hopefully this will fix the problem.
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Hmm, try going into the settings>developer options and enabling 'pointer location', then see if both the points are detected. Don't worry if the two points sometimes 'lock together', this is normal for the HD2's outdated screen
Nigeldg said:
Hmm, try going into the settings>developer options and enabling 'pointer location', then see if both the points are detected. Don't worry if the two points sometimes 'lock together', this is normal for the HD2's outdated screen
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I tried this, i can certainly feel the "lock together"-effect. Is that supposed to be normal? If thats a HD2 related problem, how come i havent experienced this before?
Rucsok said:
I tried this, i can certainly feel the "lock together"-effect. Is that supposed to be normal? If thats a HD2 related problem, how come i havent experienced this before?
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As far as I know that's a HD2 problem, yes. You probably have experienced it before, but haven't noticed it because you don't have the visual feedback to show you that it's happening. It doesn't have much of an effect during gaming (surprisingly)
omethek
it is a problem, because any game with a joystick is unplayable.
edit: besides the 'lock together', sometimes when the touch points are close to eachother, they are detected "inversed". is that normal too?
I agree that our device is outdated, but I've never experienced such issues.
I played multitouch games on WP7, Android GB & (Currently) ICS .. Even GTA 3, the movements are precise.
Not sure what you two are facing, but it's definitely not "too-old" related.
The only thing that the HD2 can't do is handling more than two finger points, other than that, everything seems to be fine for me.
There are lockups, but they are rare.
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it is a problem, because any game with a joystick is unplayable.
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Rucsok said:
edit: besides the 'lock together', sometimes when the touch points are close to eachother, they are detected "inversed". is that normal too?
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I'm beginning to agree with Marvlesz here, these issues aren't that normal. I've never had the points becoming inversed and I can play games with onscreen 'joysticks' (i.e. GTA3) fine, so I think you might need to take a look at some of those threads with the digitizer issue and check if others are experiencing the same issues.
Have had this issue since I first got my nook. When sleeping the screen will flash, not very bright, hard to see outside of a fully darkened room. Has anyone seen a way to fix this?
rahlquist said:
Have had this issue since I first got my nook. When sleeping the screen will flash, not very bright, hard to see outside of a fully darkened room. Has anyone seen a way to fix this?
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Has been fixed in the newer versions of CM
webyrd said:
Has been fixed in the newer versions of CM
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No and obviously its a battery drain...
I've updated to the latest CM (10.something) and still get screen flashing
hello every one please share what changes noticed after 14.3.A.0.757 update
i also update and i found 1 good change that is RAM is using only 600-900 mb before update it was like 1.2gb - 1.5gb
good bug fix
pradatta said:
hello every one please share what changes noticed after 14.3.A.0.757 update
i also update and i found 1 good change that is RAM is using only 600-900 mb before update it was like 1.2gb - 1.5gb
good bug fix
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Actually, I would also like to see changelog...
So...if someone knows where could we see it - it would be nice if he/she shares it
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funky0308 said:
Actually, I would also like to see changelog...
So...if someone knows where could we see it - it would be nice if he/she shares it
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the touchscreen have a problems again?
allexander93 said:
the touchscreen have a problems again?
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Don't know...and don't know why we can't find changelogs..
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allexander93 said:
the touchscreen have a problems again?
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What problem ? i did not notice any problem with touch screen
pradatta said:
What problem ? i did not notice any problem with touch screen
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Some time it crazy
PS: update yesterday, until now, everything is ok for me. No sound bug, no touch screen bug, But need test some more day to sure if it fix all bug
Everyone has the Touch screen issue, even if you don't notice it.
Some have big problems with the touch, and everybody else has normal use touchscreen issue, the guys that tell you that they don't have the TS Issue is not using the phone enough.
Gnubaver said:
Everyone has the Touch screen issue, even if you don't notice it.
Some have big problems with the touch, and everybody else has normal use touchscreen issue, the guys that tell you that they don't have the TS Issue is not using the phone enough.
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How do you know everyone has it? I use my phone a lot and don't have issues with the touchscreen.
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Gnubaver said:
Everyone has the Touch screen issue, even if you don't notice it.
Some have big problems with the touch, and everybody else has normal use touchscreen issue, the guys that tell you that they don't have the TS Issue is not using the phone enough.
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I've been on the stock kitkat ever since it was released and don't have any issue related to touchscreen. The previous build (.681) did have issues like overheating, camera app freeze / lag etc. but I didn't see anyone here complaining about the touchscreen. Maybe I missed if anyone did, but would you kindly elaborate as to what issues exactly do you have? I would like to test it on mine.
Anyway, after a day's use on the latest .757 build, my Z1 seems to work as it should with no noticeable issues so far. No sound bug, camera app works fine (no issue with the shutter key anymore), no overheating or mediaserver issue. Battery seems to be better than on jellybean for me. Also attached a couple of screenshots below showing no unusual battery drain on standby (which many are complaining) of 7 hrs with 1 hr screen on time (with 85% battery left for use).
Wow, I seriously hope the RAM consumption has been fixed. The Z1 is the worse multitasking phone I've come across in flagships, just too much of RAM usage and not enough to go around to keep enough stuff in memory. Now to wait for [NUT] to release the rooted version for the C902.
Gnubaver said:
Everyone has the Touch screen issue, even if you don't notice it.
Some have big problems with the touch, and everybody else has normal use touchscreen issue, the guys that tell you that they don't have the TS Issue is not using the phone enough.
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No they don't...
I don't have it, I don't even have white balance problem.
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How do you know everyone has it? I use my phone a lot and don't have issues with the touchscreen.
Exactly...
Never experienced something like that...
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the problem of touch is that after a while you use your finger without lifting it loses touch. one exemple game or press canc in keyboard
Gnubaver said:
Everyone has the Touch screen issue, even if you don't notice it.
Some have big problems with the touch, and everybody else has normal use touchscreen issue, the guys that tell you that they don't have the TS Issue is not using the phone enough.
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When I scroll down web pages sometimes it zooms in or clicks, is that the touch screen problem you are talking about??
It happens very rarely so it doesnt bother me..
Dpk1 said:
I've been on the stock kitkat ever since it was released and don't have any issue related to touchscreen. The previous build (.681) did have issues like overheating, camera app freeze / lag etc. but I didn't see anyone here complaining about the touchscreen. Maybe I missed if anyone did, but would you kindly elaborate as to what issues exactly do you have? I would like to test it on mine.
Anyway, after a day's use on the latest .757 build, my Z1 seems to work as it should with no noticeable issues so far. No sound bug, camera app works fine (no issue with the shutter key anymore), no overheating or mediaserver issue. Battery seems to be better than on jellybean for me. Also attached a couple of screenshots below showing no unusual battery drain on standby (which many are complaining) of 7 hrs with 1 hr screen on time (with 85% battery left for use).
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Exactly i m fully agree with all points :good: and seriously i never get any touchscreen issue battery also seems much better still now
Jiyeon90 said:
When I scroll down web pages sometimes it zooms in or clicks, is that the touch screen problem you are talking about??
It happens very rarely so it doesnt bother me..
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yes, the touchscreen issues is rare and the Z1 works at 90% without any problem
I had this touchscreen issue only once. It didnt recognize the input and when it did, they were not accurate. But like I said it only appeared once. The only things that are annoying are the RAM usage and the camera app lag..I hope that they are fixed in this update
If you use 'pattern unlock' or 'swipe keyboard' you will have come across the touchsceen issue.
Works most of the time but there is defo issues there!
Gnubaver said:
Everyone has the Touch screen issue, even if you don't notice it.
Some have big problems with the touch, and everybody else has normal use touchscreen issue, the guys that tell you that they don't have the TS Issue is not using the phone enough.
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I have nothing other than my phone to use and i have never encountered any problem with the touchscreen. Theres nothing wrong with the touchscreen
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i have a bug that when i click the back button while on an app, it opens another one for a second before returning to home screen..anyone know if its fixed?
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Gnubaver said:
Everyone has the Touch screen issue, even if you don't notice it.
Some have big problems with the touch, and everybody else has normal use touchscreen issue, the guys that tell you that they don't have the TS Issue is not using the phone enough.
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I'm by the phone every day I spend over 8-9 hours, and most of the time on the internet. Over the past nearly five months that I have this phone, I've never had a problem with the touchscreen.