FCC filings have a curious tendency to launch us into far-reaching bouts of speculation, but hear us out -- we think we're onto something here. A Samsung phone with model number GT-i9023 just passed the FCC with AWS 3G -- T-Mobile's band. If the outline of the device above looks familiar, it should; it looks exactly like the Nexus S, which happens to have a suspiciously similar model number of GT-i9020.
Here's where it gets interesting, though: German site BestBoyZ just reported a video of a Nexus S in the wild a few days ago that claimed to be running the rumored Android 2.4 release, and the baseband version in the About screen included the text "i9023." This new model number also just very recently received both Wi-Fi Alliance and Bluetooth SIG certification, though there's nothing particularly interesting in those filings. Oh, and one other random tidbit: a number of European retailers are listing the i9023 already as a "Black Silver" Nexus S, so it's possible that this will simply be a new color scheme -- but would that really necessitate a new FCC filing and model number? It's also conceivable that Samsung is taking the occasion of 2.4's release as an opportunity to tweak the Nexus S a bit -- maybe add HSPA+ for T-Mobile, something to that effect -- but at this point, it's pure speculation on our part. Feel free to drop your conspiracy theories in comments, and while you're at it, check out BestBoyZ's video after the break.
Note: The Vibrant 4G is a good thought, but this device seems too rounded -- it matches up perfectly with the Nexus S.
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WOW if this is true.. I will be highly upset..
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I was excited until i read the AWS part. Was so hoping it mentioned ATT compatible bands. Sigh..
Well.. I feel your pain, Phonex1.
But as a T-Mobile Nexus S user.. I'm highly upset because of this. Even though it might be speculation on Engadget's part, I usually trust their word. And even the idea that Samsung would do this is upsetting as well.
Soooo...
Samsung has held back 2.3 from the Nexus One to help sales of the Nexus S
Samsung is holding back 2.2 from the Vibrant to help with sales of the Vibrant Plus
Samsung now going to hold back 2.4 from the Nexus S to help sales of the Nexus S Plus?
History indicates yes
Hmm...looks like I may be returning a phone.
edit: This may just be the SLCD version of the phone. Even if it's not coming to the US they still run it through FCC approval.
I just noticed in that video, that nexus s looks mighty thick when he turns it slightly.....Nexus S w/keyboard anyone?
I won't lie.. I am really upset right now. I feel like throwing this phone and screaming out Samsung in a dramatic way. It's so frustrating I wanna laugh too.. lol.
Seems to fit right in line with this link: http://androidspin.com/2011/01/12/b...samsung-is-holding-the-android-world-hostage/
Quote from our Tipster:
Some disturbing things have happened the last week or so concerning our “Vibrant”. Samsung has NOT allowed us to push the update OTA for 2.2 because they feel it will decrease the value of the upcoming Vibrant4G +. While from a marketing aspect i totally understand, as the Vibrant 4G is what the original Vibrant should have been in the 1st place. But to shun off and bold face lie to customers is NOT what T-Mobile is about.
…Being that, Vibrant 4G and Vibrant have exactly same stats, added FFC and a new movie and the 4G. But i will tell you this, the original vibrant CAN utilize 4G FULLY. Yes FULLY. not what they are telling you.
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If this happens I will cry.
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I won't lie.. I am really upset right now. I feel like throwing this phone and screaming out Samsung in a dramatic way. It's so frustrating I wanna laugh too.. lol.
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Hopefully Google will learn and broker a partnership with another company (preferably HTC) instead of Samsung. They already confirmed the random reboot issue with the NS; such refreshing news after SGS complaints lol.
Remember that "slap in the face" many said Samsung/Google would never commit by releasing some sort of refreshed Nexus S2 or Nexus S+? ... Well, my face is getting ready.
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Seems to fit right in line with this link: http://androidspin.com/2011/01/12/b...samsung-is-holding-the-android-world-hostage/
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Man.. if it's the Vibrant 4G I wouldn't care.. (No offense to any Vibrant owners)..
But this phone just came out a month ago.. Come on man.. What kind of **** is this? lol
I don't see what people are getting upset about. Who cares if there is a different color Nexus S coming out, and there is no mention that there will anything added to this version over what we have. If the only change is color and maybe SLCD screen then who cares? Wait, don't the euro NS already have SLCD? Either way, I highly doubt Google will be releasing a new Nexus phone before the end of the summer, especially with just an incremental update to 2.4. Even if they added HSPA+ that would not be enough to release a Nexus S Plus.
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Remember that "slap in the face" many said Samsung/Google would never commit by releasing some sort of refreshed Nexus S2 or Nexus S+? ... Well, my face is getting ready.
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Definitely.. I don't know if I want to risk it and get a refund and wait to see what happens.. I still got my G2.. Ahh.. I got a couple days to think about this.. Hopefully some more information develops.
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I don't see what people are getting upset. Who cares if there is a different color Nexus S coming out, and there is no mention that there will anything added to this version over what we have. If the only change is color and maybe SLCD screen then who cares? Wait, don't the euro NS already have SLCD? Either way, I highly doubt Google will be releasing a new Nexus phone before the end of the summer, especially with just an incremental update to 2.4. Even if they added HSPA+ that would not be enough to release a Nexus S Plus.
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I minor change doesn't require a new fcc filling....
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I don't see what people are getting upset. Who cares if there is a different color Nexus S coming out, and there is no mention that there will anything added to this version over what we have. If the only change is color and maybe SLCD screen then who cares? Wait, don't the euro NS already have SLCD? Either way, I highly doubt Google will be releasing a new Nexus phone before the end of the summer, especially with just an incremental update to 2.4. Even if they added HSPA+ that would not be enough to release a Nexus S Plus.
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Well.. it says possibly HSPA+ and 2.4
Basically.. sounds like Samsung is saying "oops.. we forgot this and that.. alright guys.. here is the phone with tis and that.. sorry you bought the other one.. now buy this one!"
I don't know.. it's just a slap in the face to me. It might not matter to you.. but it does to some of us.
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It's probably just a Nexus S variant then that adds nothing new, like the Desire was for the Nexus One. Either way, I don't think google will be releasing this phone, Samsung will. I'll stick with my Google "dev phone".
Samsung seems to be trying to showoff as the biggest evil in cellular industry now. Stopping firmware updates (even on devices thought to be immune from this) and releasing similar devices. I bet by the end of the year Samsung haters >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Apple haters
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It's probably just a Nexus S variant then that adds nothing new, like the Desire was for the Nexus One. Either way, I don't think google will be releasing this phone, Samsung will. I'll stick with my Google "dev phone".
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So if it adds the HSPA+ radio, you're not gonna be upset?
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Well.. it says possibly HSPA+ and 2.4
Basically.. sounds like Samsung is saying "oops.. we forgot this and that.. alright guys.. here is the phone with tis and that.. sorry you bought the other one.. now buy this one!"
I don't know.. it's just a slap in the face to me. It might not matter to you.. but it does to some of us.
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I'd still prefer this Google Nexus S without HSPA+ (all speculation) over a Samsung Nexus S variant and tmobile printed all over it and slow updates. The networks can not handle a full 21Mbps or even half of that yet. My buddies download speeds on his g2 are barely better than mine. Once the network can achieve more I'll be perfectly happy maxing out my 7Mbps, and by then I'll probably own the Nexus dual core with HSPA+ anyway.
Hopefully some concrete info will come out soon... got till Feb 1. before my 30 days are up.
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Everyone see the stories reporting that the funny-looking Stealth is now the "Droid Stealth" that will go on pre-sale Thursday (which fits with the LTE cap rumor)? It's got Samsung's next-gen screen, but otherwise looks like our phone (CDMA Hummingbird) with better cameras and LTE.
Data plan issues aside, I'm not sure if this is good or bad for us. The new phone Droid-branded, so Verizon probably won't be happy letting it be centuries behind on updates (the i500 is the last and only SGS without official Froyo), but the hardware differences may make the software of limited value to the Fascinate. Plus it may effectively EOL our device. On the other hand, the Vibrant devs whipped up a working ROM from *their* 4G-variant-with-extra-camera pretty easily.
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If nothing else, a lot of people are going to get free upgrades if froyo isn't out before the Stealth (Droid Charge) is released.
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If nothing else, a lot of people are going to get free upgrades if froyo isn't out before the Stealth (Droid Charge) is released.
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If nothing else, a lot of people are going to get free upgrades if froyo isn't out before the Stealth (Droid Charge) is released.
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Ja. Good luck trying to get even 5 free upgrades from SF to Stealth out of Verizon....
Thats pretty much akin to getting free iPhones out of Apple.
The Charge coming out will essentially EOL our phone. Why keep a nearly identical model around that no one will want? What's the difference between these? The Fascinate has a slightly lower quality screen, looks different, and isn't 4g. How do you sell that without a huge difference in price?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hy3dMboSvDE
Heres a link to a demo of the phone. Listen at 0:28. These guys know whats up.
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The Charge coming out will essentially EOL our phone. Why keep a nearly identical model around that no one will want? What's the difference between these? The Fascinate has a slightly lower quality screen, looks different, and isn't 4g. How do you sell that without a huge difference in price?
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Well, the Fascinate is smaller (more girl-sized) and doesn't look like it mated with a particularly ugly Blackberry. Could keep it around as the lower-end option.
It'll probably be phased out, though, and with the rumor of the Infuse dropping *next week* we could have 3 of the first 4 US SGS models superseded without a single dual-core release. These will be the first SAMOLED+ screens, though, and that's definitely something.
The question is, what's the i520? And what about the i600?
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The Charge coming out will essentially EOL our phone. Why keep a nearly identical model around that no one will want? What's the difference between these? The Fascinate has a slightly lower quality screen, looks different, and isn't 4g. How do you sell that without a huge difference in price?
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Not necessarily. The Fascinate is only 6 months old, and don't forget 4G is not nearly close to being everywhere. A LOT of people (like me) won't have it until 2013. So they are keeping several 3G only models around.
At first, before I saw the specs, I immediately wanted this. Now I don't. It's not even dual core. It's still only 1Ghz. And if its lucky, it'll have 1gb of RAM, but it won't. So I PASS!
well this gives us hope.
http://androidandme.com/2011/03/pho..._campaign=Feed:+androidandme+(Android+and+Me)
my 2 options:
1) convince the wife to change to sprint for the evo 3d
2) wait for an lte (hopefully) sgs2 on vzw this summer despite my samsung complaints
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well this gives us hope.
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Pretty certain that doesn't mean OUR Fascinate, there is another one you know.
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2) wait for an lte (hopefully) sgs2 on vzw this summer despite my samsung complaints
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SGS2 FTW!!
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SGS2 FTW!!
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i think if me, you, and a few others end up chanting #icecreamgate on twitter this fall with our sgs2, we should be clinically examined
As long as they give me an early upgrade I'm good.
I'm tired of always getting phones that arent supported by Verizon or the manufacture.
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As long as they give me an early upgrade I'm good.
I'm tired of always getting phones that arent supported by Verizon or the manufacture.
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Why would they give an early upgrade? Also didn't they suspend new upgrades as of last January?
The Fascinated will be sunsetted if VZW feels like it will cannibalize sales of a newer model.
The life cycle on phones is just brutal.
It just sucks that somehow the Fasc just fell into a dead zone of space-time between models.
Older models 'get' 2.2, newer models 'come' with 2.2.
Why can't I read a thread without someone crying about a new phone not having a 16 core processor with a TERABYTE OF RAMM!!M!M!!!1!111oneone?
It's a phone, not a computer.
Anyway, I kinda like it..but from Samsung's track record, it won't ever see an update...so no more Samsung for this guy.
Got a better look at it..wow...as thick as it is you'd think it had a keyboard..Good thing it ships with Froyo..won't ever see a Gingerbread update until two new versions of Android come out.
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The only thing keeping me on Verizon at this point is the fact that I get a discount through my employer. Were Sprint to give me that same discount, they'd have a new customer in a heartbeat. Until then, I'm sticking with Samsung (the only company at this point who seems to be uninterested in locking their bootloaders). I'm not really worried about timely updates, since any phone I buy on any carrier is getting a custom ROM as soon as one is released for it. I lust after the Charge, but only because it's got a bigger screen than my Fascinate. Nothing else about it is impressive, save for the 4G which I'm "meh" on. I'm sure Samsung will have something much nicer out by the time my upgrade is available in June, otherwise I might start looking for a (hopefully not locked down) HTC phone.
All I'll saying is we better get a sgs 2 LTE variant this summer!
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http://www.androidcentral.com/cyanogenmod-coming-galaxy-sii-thanks-samsung
As u can see Sammy is embracing the root community by giving a Dev that root phones there phone and telling them to do there thing. When all these other company's HTC included are locking down bootloaders Sammy says please make our device better. Plus the galaxy tab 2 is getting great reviews it looks like its going to be a sammy year for me .
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http://www.androidcentral.com/cyanogenmod-coming-galaxy-sii-thanks-samsung
As u can see Sammy is embracing the root community by giving a Dev that root phones there phone and telling them to do there thing. When all these other company's HTC included are locking down bootloaders Sammy says please make our device better. Plus the galaxy tab 2 is getting great reviews it looks like its going to be a sammy year for me .
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and htc isnt how?
http://www.htcdev.com/ all bootloaders have been signed and they where going to encrpyt them and now they arnt so congrats for samsung for being the biggest marketing people to get everyone to buy their POS products so enjoy your darker darks and your yellow whites on your sammy not trying to be a **** just putting my two cents out their and showing you but have fun on wiz cause thats what i wanna do on samsung haha
Until Samsung fixes their radio/GPS problems, I'll stick with HTC....
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Until Samsung fixes their radio/GPS problems, I'll stick with HTC....
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This, & Sammy gave the dev a GSM model, which doesn't mean **** for us CDMA users, & if you don't agree then just go ask the devs in the Epic forum who are still trying their damndest to get CM7 fully running while the Captivate & Vibrant both has been fully blessed by Cyanogen hisself.
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this thread is terrible.
Poor misinformed soul.....
It's a promising sign but I'm not sure I'm quite convinced that Samsung is trying to change their ways. Of course, we also have no proof that HTC is going to truly unlock their bootloaders either.
My experience with 3 stock Samsung Android phones on Sprint has left a bitter taste in my mouth.
1. I had the original "Moment" from day 1. Paid $475 for it and had nothing but problems.
2. My wife has the "Transform" (I gave Samsung a mulligan for the Moment since it was 1st generation....) -- big mistake, almost as crappy as the Moment.
3. My Daughter has the "Intercept" -- got it at the same time as the Transform (so I did not have a chance to see that the Moment was more a precursor to the craptastic to come rather than a "one off" mistake.
Even without rooting and romming -- the EVO is head and shoulders above any of the Samsung phones I have seen. As far as being able to actually use it without weird things happening.
Yes....I said it --- that is the downfall of Samsung phones...."Weird things happen at a very slow pace, and even doing basic things like making a phone call or sending a text becomes a huge undertaking."
Had I not known better (owning other Android devices) -- could have sworn that Samsung was trying to make Android look like a steaming, buggy, not ready for prime time, piece of crap OS....When in fact it is not that at all.
As a last desperate measure before purchasing my EVO....I rooted and installed a custom ROM on my Moment -- and it actually was a pretty good experience to turn it into a device I could at least make phone calls on and send texts (which was worlds above stock Moment -- even though the GPS no longer worked.) So I can at least thank Samsung for forcing me to discover the world of custom roms.
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That's a value added post if I ever saw one.
How is this not good news for the end user? A headset manufacturer giving the OK to one of the best developer teams to implement a highly popular custom ROM is a bad idea? Some people will never be happy.
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That's a value added post if I ever saw one.
How is this not good news for the end user? A headset manufacturer giving the OK to one of the best developer teams to implement a highly popular custom ROM is a bad idea? Some people will never be happy.
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It might be good news if said dev recieved a CDMA phone which is what the majority of people here would purchase. It really is irrevelent because he got a GSM phone, which really changes nothing.
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It might be good news if said dev recieved a CDMA phone which is what the majority of people here would purchase. It really is irrevelent because he got a GSM phone, which really changes nothing.
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Is a CDMA version of the phone even available yet?
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Is a CDMA version of the phone even available yet?
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That I don't know. Good question.
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Is a CDMA version of the phone even available yet?
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Official, no. Testing, yes. Samsung could easily give a CDMA developer the device, but it'll be discreet until the carrier announcement. This was a good move by Samsung, but don't forget about the Nexus One and EVO 4G. Classy move by Samsung, but nothing HTC haven't done before and more.
Sent from the EVO 3D with Sprint.
Samsung is the most aggressive smartphone manufacturer right now (giving phones to dev is just a brilliant PR move if nothing else).
This ain't no Epic. SG2 marks a new era for Samsung. I've had it for 2 weeks now (with my EVO) leading up to what would have been my pending EVO 3D purchase... which will likely morph into a Sprint Within purchase at this point.
Obviously 'user experience' is highly subjective...but it seems unlikely the 3D will match this rooted, stripped SG2 experience I'm enjoying now. Fiercely fast...brilliant multimedia performance...at least compared to the 4G..
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Samsung is the most aggressive smartphone manufacturer right now (giving phones to dev is just a brilliant PR move if nothing else).
This ain't no Epic. SG2 marks a new era for Samsung. I've had it for 2 weeks now (with my EVO) leading up to what would have been my pending EVO 3D purchase... which will likely morph into a Sprint Within purchase at this point.
Obviously 'user experience' is highly subjective...but it seems unlikely the 3D will match this rooted, stripped SG2 experience I'm enjoying now. Fiercely fast...brilliant multimedia performance...at least compared to the 4G..
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Very subjective, but I fail to agree that the 3D rooted and optimized fails to match, especially when noone has even touched the phone. The specs are too good on it not to be one of the best phones of the year, and rooted and optimized is only icing on the cake.
How is the screen on the 3d compared to a super amoled. I tried reading specs but have no idea what they mean. I just wanna be able to actually see my phone when I'm outside.
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Very subjective, but I fail to agree that the 3D rooted and optimized fails to match, especially when noone has even touched the phone. The specs are too good on it not to be one of the best phones of the year, and rooted and optimized is only icing on the cake.
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Yeah, hope your right..really do. To me it comes down to the camera quality and video quality...cause other than that the only thing it has going thats appreciatively better than my rooted gingerbread 4G!...is pixel density and that its faster.
To me the dealbreaker is how much better are its multimedia capabilities...(2D..not 3D)...cause this things (GS2) is crystalclear brilliant!
I think it's funny that Samsung can't make good software for their own phones, so they want someone else to do it for them. And for basically nothing.
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I think it's funny that Samsung can't make good software for their own phones, so they want someone else to do it for them. And for basically nothing.
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Ignorance..
Stuke00 said:
I think it's funny that Samsung can't make good software for their own phones, so they want someone else to do it for them. And for basically nothing.
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Cheap ****s
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For those not familiar - #NeverAgain Round 1 - May have brought you Froyo.
I was about to press "Submit New Thread" on the Official #NeverAgain Round 2 thread... but consulted those I consider wiser than me and was told to hold off.
At this point, I think I need to know how the community feels.
The reasons I felt strongly for now being a good time:
GB patches security holes (big for me), I want GB Source (CM7 w/ GPS) and I think Samsung would be hurting/listening if we REALLY DID NOT BUY THE TAB 10.1.
So, If #NeverAgain would work, it would take a COMMUNITY (BIG TIME) EFFORT, and it would take NOT buying the Tab 10.1. And telling people not to buy it. That was the whole intent before, we vowed to not buy their products based on lack of support.
A BIG reason to hold off on NeverAgain....
it honestly may not be Samsung to blame. WTF is going on with T-Mobile? Is the merger to blame?
This movement honesty may be better suited against/in addition towards T-Mobile.
It's in your hands.. you decide how we should handle it.
I just ask that you be respectful, think about it, and do not troll.
DO NOT JUST SAY YES WITHOUT CONSIDERING THE FUTURE.
EDIT: I posted the below comment after reading some posts...
Also.... I have thick skin. You are not going to hurt my feelings. I assure you, my only intention is to try and help this community.
Some thoughts from reading the comments:
Again, I'm not saying it's right, but it could help.
I felt like we should address it as a community, so the majority is on board. A movement doesn't work if it's not supported. By addressing it, having rational thought, we all win and are better off for it.
Sounds like the majority agree it's not right, or the right time. Good. Now the community needs to decide, what is next?
Wait? Question T Mobile? Assume we're the red headed step child of the Galaxy variants?
If not this... What?
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I was about to press "Submit New Thread" on the Official #NeverAgain Round 2 thread... but consulted those I consider wiser than me and was told to hold off.
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...Larry King?
^ not a thread for jokes.
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I'm not sure I see what the Tab has to do with this? Honestly, they're pumping out so many new devices at this point I have trouble believing that they'd even care. I mean how many Vibrant owners are even left, I wonder.
Personally, I've already decided against another Samsung device since the first, and original fiasco. Not to mention the whole GPS thing. It's just not OK with me that I purchased a defective product and neither T-Mobile or Samsung seems to care. In fact it was like pulling teeth just getting a replacement device when something completely unrelated went wrong. This, of course, is T-Mobile's fault, but nevertheless it's BS. At this point T-Mobile will be lucky if I stay with them, especially with the Death Star lurking to buy them out. Ugh. I left ATT for greener pastures, dammit.
So, anyway, my point is I'm still riding the original NeverAgain train. Do whatever, I'm down to ***** and complain some more.
This should be a #NeverAgainTMobile thread. There are a bunch of leaks for other devices on other carriers and internationally, the SGS has GB in many countries.
Id hold off a bit to #NeverAgain Samsung. They gave devs some SGS2's and used open source drivers, etc.
They aren't the problem. Carriers are the problem.
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Def agreeing with this, #NeverAgain round two. I recently switched away from my Vibrant because of the lack of updates and support from Samsung. Its almost like we have to file a class action in order to get an update.
To top things off, they are continuing their "forced upgrade" mentality by releasing 2.3 for the SGS4G but nothing for the Vibrant, even though there is very little difference between them (its slightly different but minor).
Even worse, they think that because they gave ONE CM developer a SGSII that they have made up for all the mistakes they have made w/ previous devices, and publicized it like it was the second coming. What about the hundreds of developers that were working on SGS devices before the CM team wanted anything to do with Galaxy S devices (TeamHacksung needed to make an entirely seperate git for their port of CM).
Personally, I am done with Samsung, but I have a bunch of friends and family that are using Samsung Android devices that shouldn't get left behind
So.... #NeverAgain
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This should be a #NeverAgainTMobile thread. There are a bunch of leaks for other devices on other carriers and internationally, the SGS has GB in many countries.
Id hold off a bit to #NeverAgain Samsung. They gave devs some SGS2's and used open source drivers, etc.
They aren't the problem. Carriers are the problem.
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They gave ONE developer a SGSII, and ignored everyone else. Also, a leak is not a official update, and doesnt make it to the majority of users. They need to officially update via KIES or an OTA. Lastly, TMobile just updated the SGS4G to 2.3.3, so the issue is still almost entirely Samsung's IMO. None of the US variants have an official release, and considering the phone is not even a year old, thats pathetic.
We haven't gotten ANYTHING from TMO or Samsung.
"but we got GPS" that leak was for Vibrant4G we're just lucky it worked for us.
Definitely. [insert french accent here] We're the resistance!
I think something needs to be said. EVERY other SGS device has Gingerbread except us. WHY? I think we deserve to know why we aren't being supported. Whether it's because of the merger or something else entirely.
Well I'll get flack for this, but I say no!
I mean, they gave in for Froyo, but lets face it. When we buy our Phones, don't go into the sell for what they might do or get.. but for what they can do at the time of sell...
the other reason, Samsung has shown support to the Dev's in recent events & starting another campaign to me is like spitting in there eye.. You also have to remember TMO Dropped the Vibrant for the Vibrant 4G, so any support / updates are carrier dependent but samsung might update it... who knows....
Just my 2 cents & not worth much, just give them a bit more time.
~Eugene
This is exactly what I mean.
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Well I'll get flack for this, but I say no!
I mean, they gave in for Froyo, but lets face it. When we buy our Phones, don't go into the sell for what they might do or get.. but for what they can do at the time of sell...
the other reason, Samsung has shown support to the Dev's in recent events & starting another campaign to me is like spitting in there eye.. You also have to remember TMO Dropped the Vibrant for the Vibrant 4G
Just my 2 cents & not worth much, just give them a bit more time.
~Eugene
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You also have to remember TMO Dropped the Vibrant for the Vibrant 4G, so any support / updates are carrier dependent but samsung might update it... who knows....
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I think they still sell the vibrant. regardless I see no harm from giving then some pressure. why not try to squeeze at least one more update out of them?
Im with CallipH but im also with Eugene, its kind of weird that they started on updates for every other device except the Vibrant, but maybe their doing there work in order. Like i think the Epic 4G was the first phone to see a leak, now the Captivate, most likely it'll be the Fascinate next then us Last. I see it as "Better Late Than Never". It'd be cool if it was early like with FROYO but we just have to hope we get it and if we don't get GINGERBREAD the obvious reason is the Galaxy S 4G. Thats the only possible and reasonable reason. But all we can do is wait and see. Patience is the Key.
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I think something needs to be said. EVERY other SGS device has Gingerbread except us. WHY? I think we deserve to know why we aren't being supported. Whether it's because of the merger or something else entirely.
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Couldn't agree more.
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The leaks were not leaked by Samsung for you. They were leaked by Samfirware.com. They are NOT meant for public release. I don't know why everyone is saying other phones have Gingerbread... because they don't. Only the I9000 has Gingerbread.
I do not think Never again is the right format, Maybe a better format is "We are the loyal and you want to keep us that way heralding Samsung as the Phone of Phones"
I think this may be a better tact and if they do not respond Then go the #neveragain......attack..........
my 2 cents........
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The leaks were not leaked by Samsung for you. They were leaked by Samfirware.com. They are NOT meant for public release. I don't know why everyone is saying other phones have Gingerbread... because they don't. Only the I9000 has Gingerbread.
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Yeah i knew before they even released the Galaxy S 4G leak what was going down. I didn't know that there was no builds yet for the Vibrant. But its weird that no one has started building Gingy for the Vibe yet, I think a lot of people know that these aren't official or even released by Samsung but by Samfirmware, I suppose their suspicious of why the Vibrant don't even have a build yet when we were the first to see FROYO. Or was it the Captivate? I don't remember but we were 1st or 2nd.
I think the real problem with #NeverAgain is that Samsung makes some really great devices. The Tab 10.1 and the SGS II are the best tablet and phone, respectively. Saying that I won't buy them when they blow the competition out of the water is tough.
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The leaks were not leaked by Samsung for you. They were leaked by Samfirware.com. They are NOT meant for public release. I don't know why everyone is saying other phones have Gingerbread... because they don't. Only the I9000 has Gingerbread.
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Great point, but would they start development to abandon it half way? They will at least get it at some point, where as we have no evidence that they've even started for us. I'm all in for neveragain.
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I think the real problem with #NeverAgain is that Samsung makes some really great devices. The Tab 10.1 and the SGS II are the best tablet and phone, respectively. Saying that I won't buy them when they blow the competition out of the water is tough.
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Principles. You need them.
I was thinking the same thing with the neveragain round 2, I say just wait a little bit longer, maybe till the beginning of next month and then do it, there is nothing to lose, they need to put pressure on t-mobile since I'm sure its all t-mobile's fault due to all these new phones coming out.
but instead of ssaying we won't buy a galaxy tab 10.1 just say anything samsung branded
http://www.engadget.com/2011/07/27/samsung-galaxy-s-ii-with-wimax-stops-by-the-fcc-on-its-way-to-sp/
Hopefully this means "within" the next month! But seriously.
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http://www.engadget.com/2011/07/27/samsung-galaxy-s-ii-with-wimax-stops-by-the-fcc-on-its-way-to-sp/
Hopefully this means "within" the next month! But seriously.
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The cell phone gods have answered our prayers.......I want this!
It better not have a keyboard like the att version or im not even looking at it.
I'm a little torn about this. Do I jump on this or wait to see what the prime looks like?
dirkyd3rk said:
The cell phone gods have answered our prayers.......I want this!
It better not have a keyboard like the att version or im not even looking at it.
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Yeah seriously, if it has the keyboard i'm gonna be pi$$ed especially for waiting so long.
No keyboard
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I'm a little torn about this. Do I jump on this or wait to see what the prime looks like?
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Dont hold your breath waiting this year for a nexus prime; I wouldn't expect that until next year some time. I think the photon, iphone 4s, htc kingdom, hero 4g, and some random wp7 mango phones are all thats coming out this year. At least that's the only phones we will care about lol. I cant prove this information im just stating rumors and info that leaked on other websites; it could all be false lol.
I dont know why but i have a weird feeling the sprint sgs2 is going to have a keyboard like the first galaxy did and the real galaxy s 2 (samsung within) is something entirely different.
FINALLY!
After almost three years of android phones, I'm bored as hell. Yeah my current G2x is near instant in almost every UI interaction, over 5000 quadrant, etc etc but Android itself is just boring at this point. I'm hoping something hardware wise can amaze me and renew my interest in Android, and I'm thinking the SAMOLED+ screen might be it.
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The cell phone gods have answered our prayers.......I want this!
It better not have a keyboard like the att version or im not even looking at it.
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Dirk what are you rockin now? Thought you have the 3D. Are you looking to replace that already for the SG2?
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The cell phone gods have answered our prayers.......I want this!
It better not have a keyboard like the att version or im not even looking at it.
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The article says its the same form factor as the leak which didn't have a keyboard.
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Dirk what are you rockin now? Thought you have the 3D. Are you looking to replace that already for the SG2?
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I still have my 3D and yes im looking to sell it. Im currently in an htc arrive atm looking to purchase a better android device. I hate the 3D.
I wonder if this could be the 4.5" Hercules rumored for T-mobile, except for Sprint? Seeing as the dimensions are wider and taller than the international version. Could be just to make room for WiMax radios I guess.
So do you think we would be able to start using the custom ROMs that are already available for the international version when this one comes out?
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I wonder if this could be the 4.5" Hercules rumored for T-mobile, except for Sprint? Seeing as the dimensions are wider and taller than the international version. Could be just to make room for WiMax radios I guess.
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Yeah It could be because of the wimax radio's or it could have a gay qwerty keyboard.
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So do you think we would be able to start using the custom ROMs that are already available for the international version when this one comes out?
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Doubtful. Probably real easy ports tho.
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So do you think we would be able to start using the custom ROMs that are already available for the international version when this one comes out?
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Its hard to tell so early isnt it? probably could port. Idk man im stuck in a situation right now to even start thinking about that so early. I wanna sell my evo 3D, I still have my upgrade which means my contract is already expired, should I buy this with my upgrade? I planned on leaving sprint to get the iphone 5 so i dont know what to do! ahhh
I have upgrades available on two of my lines that I may be using if something truly intriguing comes out. After the track record that Samsung and Sprint have when it comes to system updates, I am probably not going for the SG2, as pretty and awesome as it is. I will see what comes out there.
Yea well cyanogen is already supporting the sgs2 or they have a couple and are developing cm for it I dunno I don't really keep up on it but it should be fully tweak able unlike the 3d(for now). I love my evo 4g but I think it's a good time to up my cores. Plus, HTC isn't earning any points by not sticking to their promises like releasing source code whenever they damn well please and the whole bootloader fiasco. All that just makes those samoled screens look even better. Wish they weren't all plastic but thats apparently how you have to make a thin phone. Just looks cheap for such an expensive piece of hardware.
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Dont hold your breath waiting this year for a nexus prime; I wouldn't expect that until next year some time. I think the photon, iphone 4s, htc kingdom, hero 4g, and some random wp7 mango phones are all thats coming out this year. At least that's the only phones we will care about lol. I cant prove this information im just stating rumors and info that leaked on other websites; it could all be false lol.
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Yeah, but at the same time Google has confirmed ICS for a Q4 release. And prime is supposed to be Google's first ICS phone....which I'm realizing now that doesn't mean the first ICS phone...just google's first.
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I still have my 3D and yes im looking to sell it. Im currently in an htc arrive atm looking to purchase a better android device. I hate the 3D.
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Yeah the 3D is not my cup of tea either. Play around with it at the store and wasn't impress by it at all. Love my 4G but absolutely hate my video cam on it. Very very poor in low light (every custom rom available) compare to my Daughter's Epic and this SG2 which seem to probably be alot better then the 3D or any HTC in that department. So this might be my next phone as well if nothing else releases by then.
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Yea well cyanogen is already supporting the sgs2 or they have a couple and are developing cm for it I dunno I don't really keep up on it but it should be fully tweak able unlike the 3d(for now). I love my evo 4g but I think it's a good time to up my cores. Plus, HTC isn't earning any points by not sticking to their promises like releasing source code whenever they damn well please and the whole bootloader fiasco. All that just makes those samoled screens look even better. Wish they weren't all plastic but thats apparently how you have to make a thin phone. Just looks cheap for such an expensive piece of hardware.
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Yeah dude thats one thing about that sgs2, that thing is fully plastic and super light weight. I really like the metal/heavy phones!!! I would be scared to keep that phone in my pocket because its so plastic thin.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gAh9frGNulY&feature=related
Personally, not amused. Didn't raise the bar the way the S2 did. US versions shafted with S4.
And also, I think it's absolutely hideous. "Inspired by pebbles?" Honestly, who could even say that with a straight face. Oval phones are just... not smart.
But all in all, it's probably one "Plus" away from being stunning, but alas, combined with a pretty questionable keynote, I'd say this is overall pretty disappointing. It's still easily one of the best phones on the market, but it's now in a market populated by the HTC One X and the Huawei Ascend D XL, the former which is stunningly beautiful, and the latter has the chance to be even more specs-heavy than the S3.
tl;dr: Samsung pulled a 4s.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gAh9frGNulY&feature=related
Personally, not amused. Didn't raise the bar the way the S2 did. US versions shafted with S4.
And also, I think it's absolutely hideous. "Inspired by pebbles?" Honestly, who even say that with a straight face. Oval phones are just... not smart.
But all in all, it's probably one "Plus" away from being stunning, but alas, combined with a pretty questionable keynote, I'd say this is overall pretty disappointing.
tl;dr: Samsung pulled a 4s.
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I actually think is a very nice release!
Cant wait for it to come to the US --
Being tested by tmo already
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Nice device, no doubt.
Is it groundbreaking? Don't know yet, we'd have to see some reviews to determine that.
I will say this, development is going to be through the roof for this phone, just as it with the SGS2.
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Nice device, no doubt.
Is it groundbreaking? Don't know yet, we'd have to see some reviews to determine that.
I will say this, development is going to be through the roof for this phone, just as it with the SGS2.
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Can't say I agree because most of the devs aren't impressed
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When it comes out in the USA, i dont know if im really getting it. Thats what happened when the S2 first came out. It came out around summer 2011 then a couple months later on a october, the tmobile brand t989 was released with upgraded hardware. Maybe the S3 might follow the same route.
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S3 Hardware: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=02nIoynGqYg&feature=related
S3 Software: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iknPkDGzsjM&feature=g-all
'Quad-core' is a good marketing term for selling. Minor differences in everyday use in my opinion. You'll notice the difference if you run a benchmark.
I like all the functionality of it.... but I'd like to know from someone who knows:
Will our S2 be able to do all the cool stuff they are showing off with a software upgrade to 4.0.X ? Like the gesture functions, etc... Because our phone can already do most of the stuff they are showing, and the specs are pretty close?
Some of the features they show off will be unique to it, because the S3 uses a new version of Touchwiz that the Galaxy S2 isn't getting. Our ICS update is more a minor update, whereas the S3 gets some unique features. Kind of like HTC adding unique features to Sense 4 versus phones with Sense 3.5, even though both are on ICS.
-the ultimate black dragon-
If the tmobiles version gets turned into the red headed stepchild like the s2 did with changing the processors I'm just gonna go with the note or jump ship to att..
CincoDeDrinko said:
I like all the functionality of it.... but I'd like to know from someone who knows:
Will our S2 be able to do all the cool stuff they are showing off with a software upgrade to 4.0.X ? Like the gesture functions, etc... Because our phone can already do most of the stuff they are showing, and the specs are pretty close?
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That's touchwiz i wasn't impressed at all. It not even all that special especially since samsung didn't even bother using a15 architecture on their processor. So qualcomm will be in the lead till ti omap is released. The only noticeable feature was picture in picture and that is it. Guess ill be sticking with the nexus line because
all those features are useless. but they can be done with apps which someone will probably do in the future.
The pebbles thing made me chuckle lol
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Meh. Looks nice, but I'll reserve judgment until it arrives at T-Mobile USA. We'll see if it stays the same or becomes a varient that shares nothing but the name, like this one did.
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If the tmobiles version gets turned into the red headed stepchild like the s2 did with changing the processors I'm just gonna go with the note or jump ship to att..
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All usa versions will be the step child because no one be using exynos unless you unlock the device go on at&t. All because of lte/hspa+ on tmobile bands.
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All usa versions will be the step child because no one be using exynos unless you unlock the device go on at&t. All because of lte/hspa+ on tmobile bands.
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Yea that what I meant buy the international unlocked for att but again I wasn't to impressed with it so I'm leaning towards getting the note and riding it out til the next nexus.
i dont like how it looks, i also think that it is too big its almost the same size as the galaxy note. It has a 8mp camera hopefully its not the same ones they put in the galaxy s2. that being said only thing left to really know is hows the battery life.
the next nexus will hopefully be a bit better
I actually love it!
But it only has HSPA +21
No HSPA +42 for us TMO users?
WTF ?
SevenSe7enSeven said:
i dont like how it looks, i also think that it is too big its almost the same size as the galaxy note. It has a 8mp camera hopefully its not the same ones they put in the galaxy s2. that being said only thing left to really know is hows the battery life.
the next nexus will hopefully be a bit better
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Jts actually the same size as this phone. Just remove the bezel space.
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I agree with OP. Pretty much a let down here. Minor upgrades with some gimmicks. It will be the same story all over for us nerds here who want updates. Sure it has nice specs, but development is going to be slow for 6-9 months after the next OS release for android I probably wont own it, I don't need those specs for anything. All games run perfect on dual cores.
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All usa versions will be the step child because no one be using exynos unless you unlock the device go on at&t. All because of lte/hspa+ on tmobile bands.
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false.
If you were wondering about radios, it's launching with HSPA+, but there's an LTE version in the cards.
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http://www.engadget.com/2012/05/03/samsung-galaxy-s-iii-is-official/