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Looks like sprint is making gingerbread for the epic... I dont know if because this is a CDMA phone if this helps us at all. But it does give me hope that maybe, just maybe verizon will do the same!
http://www.androidcentral.com/epic-4g-gets-new-gingerbread-leak-android-233-and-ee03
One can only hope.
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this is of virtually no help to us.....they already had a gb leak previously which didnt help us...we are on our own with the exception of a few things here and there
nitsuj17 said:
this is of virtually no help to us.....they already had a gb leak previously which didnt help us...we are on our own with the exception of a few things here and there
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Thats too bad but here is to hoping that verizon decides to not take forever again.... Maybe the new 18 month upgrade plan from google IO can help out.
I suspect Verizon will be forced to do a 2.3 update with the recently divulged security flaw in 2.2.
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I suspect Verizon will be forced to do a 2.3 update with the recently divulged security flaw in 2.2.
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Have a link to that I must have missed the story?
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Have a link to that I must have missed the story?
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here ya go!
http://www.bgr.com/2011/05/17/99-of-android-handsets-vulnerable-to-account-credential-theft/
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here ya go!
http://www.bgr.com/2011/05/17/99-of-android-handsets-vulnerable-to-account-credential-theft/
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Has Verizon fixed the locally-exploitable issue with Android < 2.3.3 yet (you know, the one that ended up with Google pulling a bunch of apps from the market that were actively exploiting it)?
Nothing also prevents Verizon from backporting the fix, or simply ignoring it. It doesn't seem like it would be very easy to exploit (you have to perform a MITM attack on a token that's usable for 14 days? Sounds like a fairly small window of opportunity!).
As for the agreement to update devices for up to 18 months... I doubt it applies retroactively.
In case anyone hadn't yet noticed, Verizon sucks.
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As for the agreement to update devices for up to 18 months... I doubt it applies retroactively.
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I agree. I really wish though that google would pull their pants up and tell US carriers whats up. It's googles OS but it seems like the phone companies get to beat the hell out of it and google just gets to watch. It should be a little more take it or leave it, this is our baby kind of a deal I feel.
Though at this point that is just a fading dream.
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In case anyone hadn't yet noticed, Verizon sucks.
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True and False. I have had everything but Sprint and Verizon is the lesser of the demons for me. At&t is absolutely terrible I paid to get away from their horrible business model. Sure they don't update but their customer service and stability has never been matched.
The security vulnerability is common for any wifi device. The key is to not connect to insecure wifi networks.
Also the only the latest version of gb got the security update, not any and all versions of gb.
Seriously, froyo wasn't enough? Now we're crying about samsung leaked gb? It'll come in time. We already have two separate versions of CM7.
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True and False. I have had everything but Sprint and Verizon is the lesser of the demons for me. At&t is absolutely terrible I paid to get away from their horrible business model. Sure they don't update but their customer service and stability has never been matched.
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Well, yes, AT&T also sucks. Verizon has "The Network" (except when LTE crashes and 3G databases get corrupted -- fail!). AT&T has the iPhone. That's seriously all either one cares about or understands.
However, AT&T has the fortune of using hardware compatible with international unlocked models. "The Network" is, besides Verizon's main selling point, also another big way of locking us into their crappy inattention and bloat. I hate it, and I hate even more that AT&T will gobble up the most Android-sympathetic carrier and force us into bloated high-priced no-update duopoly.
I've never tried Sprint either, but it's ever more tempting.
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Well, yes, AT&T also sucks. Verizon has "The Network" (except when LTE crashes and 3G databases get corrupted -- fail!). AT&T has the iPhone. That's seriously all either one cares about or understands.
However, AT&T has the fortune of using hardware compatible with international unlocked models. "The Network" is, besides Verizon's main selling point, also another big way of locking us into their crappy inattention and bloat. I hate it, and I hate even more that AT&T will gobble up the most Android-sympathetic carrier and force us into bloated high-priced no-update duopoly.
I've never tried Sprint either, but it's ever more tempting.
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As someone who had tried all of the major 4, as well as someone who travels all over this country and canada. I have found verizon has the biggest and most stable network. Now, in full disclosure, my service when I am home 2 days a month sucks. But for someone who "needs" a nationwide network verizon is imho, the best.
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As long as there is a will there is a way. MITM are not as hard as you make it seem. I could easily come over to your wifi and make way with all your bank accounts. Wifi, bluetooth and even any GSM network are susceptible to getting attacked.
Yeah this leak is really stable guys; netfix works perfect also, and this isn't even the latest build!
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At least we don't have to worry about Carrier IQ on our Atrix.
http://gizmodo.com/5868732/the-complete-list-of-all-the-phones-with-carrier-iq-spyware-installed
Good for us!
Now I hope this is just the first step towards burning carrier IQ to the ground.
It's the devil I tells ya!
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Meh. Cm7 fixed it long time ago
lsxrx7 said:
Meh. Cm7 fixed it long time ago
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For some reason i'm thinking that this whole Carrier IQ business was a bit deeper than OS level. I mean... there was an article from some hacker or something saying that it was possible to remove Carrier IQ from a phone that used it, but it wasn't easy. I kinda doubt the whole idea of Carrier IQ would have even crossed XDA's news board if it was 100% remedied by a custom ROM.
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For some reason i'm thinking that this whole Carrier IQ business was a bit deeper than OS level. I mean... there was an article from some hacker or something saying that it was possible to remove Carrier IQ from a phone that used it, but it wasn't easy. I kinda doubt the whole idea of Carrier IQ would have even crossed XDA's news board if it was 100% remedied by a custom ROM.
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I've read the articles a little while ago, do I might be wrong about this, but I do believe carrier IQ is removed by CM7. Just think about it, it's software. Custom roms replace that completely, where would it hide? They said it is hard to remove from the stock ROM, most probably, which it actually is. As for it being newsworthy, you have to remember, even if it is removable by "simply" flashing a custom ROM, that is something most people don't do. Hell, many don't even know that's a possibility. And they shouldn't have to. It's the privacy of millions that's at stake here. And even though we CM7 users are not affected by it, I don't think we should act like it's not our problem at all. Get the word out!
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Yea... but i'm saying for XDA, it probably wouldn't even really need to be news-worthy if a custom ROM fixed it completely.... since i'm pretty sure most people who come to XDA are interested in modding their phone.
Actually found the article. Here's a snippet from it:
This is, essentially, a piece of software that is embedded into most mobile devices, not just Android but Nokia, Blackberry, and likely many more. According to TrevE, the software is installed as a rootkit software in the RAM of devices where it resides. This software basically is completely hidden from view and in it virtually invisible, and worst of all, rather complicated to kill...
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it's in the "The Rootkit of All Evil - CIQ" article... can probably google it quite easily. Just makes it sound like it's not something easily remedied by a custom ROM.
i ran one of those carrier iq detectors when they sprung up, and it said no. that was good enough for me.
I didn't know if any of the ATT PREORDERED NOTE 3's were out yet or not - but am curioius to find out if ATT is going to lock the bootloader for this phone like they did for the S4?
I think it is inevitable, but I was hoping that maybe they wouldn't be
If this is in the wrong forum for this, let me mknow or have the moderator delete this - I looked and couldn't find any other threads for the NOTE 3.
Anyone?
PS - if the bootler is locked for the ATT Varient - I was thinking of buying an unlocked phone - any difference between the N9000 and N9005?
99% its going to be locked. Makes me want to wait for Nexus 5. To much of a headache for Samsung.
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99% its going to be locked. Makes me want to wait for Nexus 5. To much of a headache for Samsung.
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I loved my NOTE 2 - got the S4 for the processor and camera - and want the Note 3 for the same reasons. The LOCKED BOOTLOADER thing is a bunch of crap - and it was a sad day when ATT started doing it. I doubt they will ever change policy, but I sure wish they would. It's one thing to lock a contract phone..I think I can understand their reasons for wanting to do that - but if I OWN the device - what business do they have preventing me from using it fully? arghh....oh well, fingers crossed we are both wrong - but I think your assessment was correct.
It's already been confirmed as locked by designgears. Great developer btw. Do a search. Also, look at the dev section cwm thread. Notice which models are missing? Att and Verizon.
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Also I would wait a week and wait for others to confirm the T-Mobile note 3 works on att. All data so far says it will. This has been discussed in a few threads.
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T-mobile note 3 working on AT&T as in LTE as well? 3g should work without any issue I would think.
If so it would make perfect sense to purchase a t-mobile n3 outright just for the unlocked bootloader.
Yes, LTE as well. Full compatability. Along with a few extra bands. Just need to confirm this week with a real device.
There is a bigger thread on here discussing this. Check the Q&A forum.
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Yes, LTE as well. Full compatability. Along with a few extra bands. Just need to confirm this week with a real device.
There is a bigger thread on here discussing this. Check the Q&A forum.
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Now for some shipping confirmation!!!!! I'm right with you!!!! Come on Negri!!!
rooted,recovered,and rebooted from the ol' i777.......
So what does the future look like for the N900A? Does the locked bootloader mean the only way to obtain root access will be through an exploit someone may eventually stumble upon? Will it most likely never be flashable, or is anything a possibility at this point? I have one on preorder and it's feeling like more of a downgrade all the time...
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So what does the future look like for the N900A? Does the locked bootloader mean the only way to obtain root access will be through an exploit someone may eventually stumble upon? Will it most likely never be flashable, or is anything a possibility at this point? I have one on preorder and it's feeling like more of a downgrade all the time...
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It's basically the same situation as the AT&T S4 with the newest knox firmware. Most likely an exploit found on that will also work on the AT&T note 3. I don't think anything is 100% secure but it may be a long time till one is found. I don't know if safestrap can be adapted or not. As far as flashing roms it depends on how much the phone is locked down but in the past if it was using a signed kernel then a custom rom could be flashed as long as it kept the stock kernel. You can be sure though that some very talented people are working on it. It's just a waiting game at this point.
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It's basically the same situation as the AT&T S4 with the newest knox firmware. Most likely an exploit found on that will also work on the AT&T note 3. I don't think anything is 100% secure but it may be a long time till one is found. I don't know if safestrap can be adapted or not. As far as flashing roms it depends on how much the phone is locked down but in the past if it was using a signed kernel then a custom rom could be flashed as long as it kept the stock kernel. You can be sure though that some very talented people are working on it. It's just a waiting game at this point.
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Thanks, that gives me a bit of hope... Most people thought the PS3 would never get owned, and it obviously was As it is I'm basically buying an expensive bike with training wheels rigged to blow the tires if removed and a titanium boot permanently affixed that the most powerful blowtorch available cannot cut through.
each time i find a new thread/problem theres usually somebody whos talked to samsung and been told itll be fix in a update. thats gotta be a ton of update just to get a working phone.
so far i have read
always on flash
radio/antanna on verizon models getting no/bad lte signal with dropped calls
screen rotation not working
screen problems
phones getting too hot
and im sure i missed some
while one big update would be nicer that would prbly take forever to release
I havent got any of these issues. (International SGS6)
Usually people that aren't happy with something complain/make noise and those that are happy don't create a load of threads ergo it looks like people are unsatisfied with their SGS6 whereas its probably the complete opposite.
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I havent got any of these issues. (International SGS6)
Usually people that aren't happy with something complain/make noise and those that are happy don't create a load of threads ergo it looks like people are unsatisfied with their SGS6 whereas its probably the complete opposite.
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your flash isnt always on? (check in the dark,it might be very dim)
Nope my flash isn't on either.... UK phone.
My flash stays on randomly. No other issues except cell standby draining the heck out of my battery. Tmobile s6.
well thats confusing, is samsung lying about the update then?
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My flash stays on randomly. No other issues except cell standby draining the heck out of my battery. Tmobile s6.
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I'm wondering if it's a WiFi Direct / Quickconnect bug. If I turn off WiFi, it's much better on LTE.
None of those issues with my Canadian S6 .. been great so far!
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My flash stays on randomly. No other issues except cell standby draining the heck out of my battery. Tmobile s6.
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Fingers Crossed. Same here too. Just battery draining sometimes. But next when i am back after a business trip. i will factory reset the device and see if it helps. Seems issue with wifi.
Phone just released
take it easy it will get better
so far im having a blast and have zero problems
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each time i find a new thread/problem theres usually somebody whos talked to samsung and been told itll be fix in a update. thats gotta be a ton of update just to get a working phone.
so far i have read
always on flash
radio/antanna on verizon models getting no/bad lte signal with dropped calls
screen rotation not working
screen problems
phones getting too hot
and im sure i missed some
while one big update would be nicer that would prbly take forever to release
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You're the first person I hear that complaints about updates. Just don't get the phone.
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You're the first person I hear that complaints about updates. Just don't get the phone.
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im not complaining about updates, more so that the phone needs so many to function properly
you can see yourself on xda that the verizon model is having signal problems (drops to 3g in areas where theres strong 4g signal) and that it requires on update to fix that.
my s6 arrives monday so ill double check.
ive played with a display model and the phone is great its just the software problems
Got the t-mobile S6 and my phone is not having any of these problems, i freakin' LOVE this phone!
I did have a battery drain problem, after rooting it would not go into deep sleep mode. Simply rebooted to stock recovery, wiped cache, problem solved!
I've been an extremely heavy user since getting this phone and have had my screen on emailing/playing games/reddit browsing/texting/etc for 6+ hours a day. Since wiping cache, my battery holds like a champ. When the screen is off, it uses close to zero battery...maybe .5% per hour. Usually end up going to bed with around 20% battery left.
Could not be happier.
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im not complaining about updates, more so that the phone needs so many to function properly
you can see yourself on xda that the verizon model is having signal problems (drops to 3g in areas where theres strong 4g signal) and that it requires on update to fix that.
my s6 arrives monday so ill double check.
ive played with a display model and the phone is great its just the software problems
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Well if you look at IOS, it also gets a lot of update to either fix things or improve things. The iPhone 6 came out with IOS 8 but there I already 8.4 in the works I the works, that just how it goes. I dont mind updates at all, even 3 a day if it is to improve the device. Better that than no updates.
I understand your point though, you think Samsung should have thoroughly tested the S6 before release but for example, things like carrier bloatware and cell reception is out of Samsung hands.
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Well if you look at IOS, it also gets a lot of update to either fix things or improve things. The iPhone 6 came out with IOS 8 but there I already 8.4 in the works I the works, that just how it goes. I dont mind updates at all, even 3 a day if it is to improve the device. Better that than no updates.
I understand your point though, you think Samsung should have thoroughly tested the S6 before release but for example, things like carrier bloatware and cell reception is out of Samsung hands.
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its not a tower or antena issure, is a software issue that samsung says its aware of. people who alrdy have a verizon s6 are dropping calls and just in general having worst reception than a S4 did.
what carrier gets 3 updates a day?
im on verizon where they have a record of giving their updates later than other carriers.
i dont mind good updates, its just from the time it takes for you to receive a update fix you have to be with a phone that has problems
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its not a tower or antena issure, is a software issue that samsung says its aware of. people who alrdy have a verizon s6 are dropping calls and just in general having worst reception than a S4 did.
what carrier gets 3 updates a day?
im on verizon where they have a record of giving their updates later than other carriers.
i dont mind good updates, its just from the time it takes for you to receive a update fix you have to be with a phone that has problems
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You're talking about the Verizon one as if its the only version of the galaxy s6, I'm talking about all versions in general. None are getting 3 a day to my knowledge, but that was an example that even if it's 3 a day to improve the phone then I wouldn't mind.
Being early adopters we have to accept that there will be issues with any launch. Many of these problems don't present themselves until they are in the hands of the masses. Things like battery drain from cell standby or WiFi and poor signal maintenance are definitely YMMV type of situations as we've seen here in the forums. If the testers don't use WiFi and live in strong signal areas then they may not experience any of those problems
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There is also certain amount of fault on the carriers be cause they go through and modify/gut the original software.
Who cares about software problems can be fixed with an update.
Real issue here is hardware defects like pink tint and scratched screens that cannot be fixed and only choice is to return phone and pay restocking fee.
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Who cares about software problems can be fixed with an update.
Real issue here is hardware defects like pink tint and scratched screens that cannot be fixed and only choice is to return phone and pay restocking fee.
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true but I guess at least someone could return it for a fix while software will be bugged until a fix comes out which no one knows how long that will take. Even with the issues I freaking love this phone!
why do u have to pay a restocking fee? you got a defective phone.
Android central say there is an update of 174 MB. Did any user got it ?
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Android central say there is an update of 174 MB. Did any user got it ?
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Android Central hmzzz don't believe everything they are saying.
They also said you loose image quality /features in the camera if you unlock the bootloader which isn't true.
Notice any differences in how it operates? No notice of any available update on my device as of yet...
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Android Central hmzzz don't believe everything they are saying.
They also said you loose image quality /features in the camera if you unlock the bootloader which isn't true.
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The update is happening...MicroMod777 on the "Disable OTA" thread got it this morning...
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Android Central hmzzz don't believe everything they are saying.
They also said you loose image quality /features in the camera if you unlock the bootloader which isn't true.
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Some users on their forum also says that. ATT got it 2 days before and we are getting it to.
I hope they move dual window back to back button. Thats all i need.
I have a H815. So i don't think I will receive an update then
https://support.t-mobile.com/docs/DOC-22421
Pretty sure its true, but ATT's was only like 25mb
What I don't understand as an EU G4 user.
Why does T-mobile provide an update? Is it an update on their software? Or is LG involved?
Are there specific T-mobile apps on it?
I got the update this morning. To answer a couple of questions: No, no new apps. Dual window is still in the same place.
I dont notice anything right offhand different, but I havent done much with my phone yet this morning. Heres a capture of my info:
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Android Central hmzzz don't believe everything they are saying.
They also said you loose image quality /features in the camera if you unlock the bootloader which isn't true.
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You're kidding - I always thought they knew what they were talking about. Where did they say that?
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What I don't understand as an EU G4 user.
Why does T-mobile provide an update? Is it an update on their software? Or is LG involved?
Are there specific T-mobile apps on it?
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T-Mobile (as well as most carriers) ship out the updates after they've approved the changes. I would imagine this is to ensure that nothing being updated will affected their carrier's included Spam (I mean added software) or network connectivity. Last thing they want is their stores or customer service lines inundated with "help! The update broke my cellular connection!" claims.
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I got the update this morning. To answer a couple of questions: No, no new apps. Dual window is still in the same place.
I dont notice anything right offhand different, but I havent done much with my phone yet this morning. Heres a capture of my info:
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If you do notice anything of real substance, please post it so that we can know. For now, I think I will avoid connecting to WiFi until I know what this update actually does. I've never been a fan of generic changelogs...
But then it's a little bit strange that the international version. Hasn't got the update.
So you could assume it has to do with their spam apps.
Maybe it fixes the touchscreen issue. I haven't gotten an update yet, and I've switched back to my S5 for now.
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But then it's a little bit strange that the international version. Hasn't got the update.
So you could assume it has to do with their spam apps.
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Could have to do with any number of kernel/lib/framework related items specific to carrier. Could be cellular radio related, WiFi related (wifi calling has been weird on my phone...doesn't want to seem to connect but I have awesome reception where I live, so I don't need it), etc...
Has your version had any updates in last week or two? If so, it might just be that the carriers are just now approving that update and pushing out to the devices.
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You're kidding - I always thought they knew what they were talking about. Where did they say that?
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That is true for certain phones. Like the Sony phones.
Sweet. Pretty quick imo. Look forward to seeing if it fixes some small issues I've been having (touch/tap misses and knock settings). I know knock settings are a longshot, but it would be nice to be able to configure them to each persons liking. I'd love to be able to turn off the "drag one finger down to quick view the clock/status"
I got my update overnight.
Phone updated without any warning or notice when I woke up this morning. CHecked the software version and it was the new one.
I havent noticed any differences as of yet.
Actually I just looked at my phone and already running version h I wonder if from the factory there were two different images
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Could have to do with any number of kernel/lib/framework related items specific to carrier. Could be cellular radio related, WiFi related (wifi calling has been weird on my phone...doesn't want to seem to connect but I have awesome reception where I live, so I don't need it), etc...
Has your version had any updates in last week or two? If so, it might just be that the carriers are just now approving that update and pushing out to the devices.
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No I haven't got any updates on my version (H815).
Got the update and my phone starting shaking and jumping around on my desk. When the update was complete it turned into a Galaxy S6
Since they are already working on root and unlock I wouldn't take the ota just yet. Ive got a replacement on the way so once I get the update I'll take it on the one I'm returning and see if any changes. Ill also do a system dump on the new version too if necessary.