Nexus S / Galaxy S comparison and review up - Galaxy S I9000 General

Based on the GT-I9000 SGS for us outside the states, I've had a bash at comparing the Nexus to my Galaxy and put up the differences, improvements and disappointments to try and help anyone on the edge decide which phone is better for them:
http://technocrate.net/post/2680798304/google-nexus-s-uk-eu-review-and-galaxy-s-comparison

Conclusion / Summary:
SGS is better
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this is coming from a heavy user of both phones (me)

Nexus s: gingerbread and flash on camera
Galaxy s: fm radio, external sd card and HD recording at a higher frames per second.
Clear winner has got to be the galaxy s,
Note: missing an external sd is awful.
I Can't wait for gingerbread to hit the galaxy s
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AllGamer said:
Conclusion / Summary:
SGS is better
this is coming from a heavy user of both phones (me)
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Except Samsung make the software and... well. Samsung can't make software, a slight problem was my conclusion there. Using the Nexus for Navigation this week though has been flawless and immediate which is a treat.

chrisjcks said:
Nexus s: gingerbread and flash on camera
Galaxy s: fm radio, external sd card and HD recording at a higher frames per second.
Clear winner has got to be the galaxy s,
Note: missing an external sd is awful.
I Can't wait for gingerbread to hit the galaxy s
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Not a disagreement on the topic as it is personal but I have never, ever needed an external memory card. And the SGS is way better at video which I have actually got to post soon a proper side by side recording demo, but I really do not care. At all. An that struck me as odd..
I think not everyone needs video in HD and some people may claim they do then entirely ignore the function. I prefer battery life and call quality over 720p video. But this is a personal thing.

something that should be mentioned as well
the Samsung Nexus S DOES NOT have gorilla glass, it will break if you drop it the wrong way
the SNS has NFC (which i rather trade for a microSD support)
i ran out of space too many times already, it's really hitting a nerve
is very annoying to have to keep uninstalling stuff, to be able to try something new

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something that should be mentioned as well
the Samsung Nexus S DOES NOT have gorilla glass, it will break if you drop it the wrong way
the SNS has NFC (which i rather trade for a microSD support)
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Edited to re-include the GGlass thing, I had it in an early draft and forgot on the rewrite..
SD over NFC... I'm sort of with you, I don't use either. But the NFC has been amusing so far just to wave it over the security tags at work, it's vaguely possible something interesting will come of that and the developer community.

nailerr said:
Based on the GT-I9000 SGS for us outside the states, I've had a bash at comparing the Nexus to my Galaxy and put up the differences, improvements and disappointments to try and help anyone on the edge decide which phone is better for them:
http://technocrate.net/post/2680798304/google-nexus-s-uk-eu-review-and-galaxy-s-comparison
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Good article. Please fix the typos, namely differentiating between 'its' and 'it's' as they have completely different meanings.

matt310 said:
Good article. Please fix the typos, namely differentiating between 'its' and 'it's' as they have completely different meanings.
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Honestly, I never learnt any sort of language at school so this is mostly an amalgamation of what I have read and worked out since..
I shall certainly have a go. It's as in It Is and Its for possessive.
Ok that was at least a quick set of corrections. I fear there will be more to do in general though perhaps after sleeping some. Thanks for the pointer.

nailerr said:
Edited to re-include the GGlass thing, I had it in an early draft and forgot on the rewrite..
SD over NFC... I'm sort of with you, I don't use either. But the NFC has been amusing so far just to wave it over the security tags at work, it's vaguely possible something interesting will come of that and the developer community.
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Singapore is now conducting trials for NFC applications. Though right now the use is limited, but I foresee in the near future that NFC is going to find its use, perhaps even sooner than expected.
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i wouldnt get too bent out of shape regarding the sgs video recording.. i mostly use it in loud environments ie concerts and the video recording on the sgs is useless all you get is noise... anyone compare on the nexus s how recording is in loud environments.

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Singapore is now conducting trials for NFC applications. Though right now the use is limited, but I foresee in the near future that NFC is going to find its use, perhaps even sooner than expected.
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It's certainly going to see more use in some regions than others at first, outside those who have it now. Where I am it will probably remain a curiosity for the time being.

lgkahn said:
i wouldnt get too bent out of shape regarding the sgs video recording.. i mostly use it in loud environments ie concerts and the video recording on the sgs is useless all you get is noise... anyone compare on the nexus s how recording is in loud environments.
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No but it is something I could try although it may have to be faked with my stereo.
I have some night time video and regular phone call recordings which I need to mix up and put on youtube or somewhere yet - tumblr is not too good at mixing multimedia into a text post apparently.
I am open to questions on the topic, it would help me add more in a follow up post later on. The idea is to help people make a choice, even if they decide an HTC or iPhone is best for them.

SGS video recording @ 720p is good although the audio stream is pathetic. Even when trying to shoot a video of my floorstanding speakers playing music, the audio statistics of the file generated are horrendous.
Last time i checked i got 62kbps bitrate and 32KHz sample rate. This is by no means 21st century stuff. Garbage.
Audio playback through headphones sucks majorly compared to my ipod. Makes me wonder why i chose this plastic piece of junk.
GPS is top notch, on my 6th replacement handset from orange...oh its something alright. The replacement i received this morning gives a slight pink/red tint when using the camera function, focussing on a white sheet of paper.
Should have gone for the iphone4, shoots great video with good sound, plays good sound, gps works...thats all i need. Oh and mic is clear for calls. I am by no means an Apple fanboy, i just want something that WORKS! Silly i know...

lgkahn said:
i wouldnt get too bent out of shape regarding the sgs video recording.. i mostly use it in loud environments ie concerts and the video recording on the sgs is useless all you get is noise... anyone compare on the nexus s how recording is in loud environments.
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i'll try that on the next concert or public performance i get to visit
last time i tried it on the SGS, the sound was horrible, but video was crispy clear, even during Dawn

nailerr said:
Except Samsung make the software and... well. Samsung can't make software, a slight problem was my conclusion there. Using the Nexus for Navigation this week though has been flawless and immediate which is a treat.
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This is a ridiculous statement.
Don't get me wrong. It's 100% accurate. It's just that it's ridiculous that a company the size and stature of Samsung can't get their sh!t together when it comes to software. I should have know three years ago when I bought one of their LCD picture frames. Beautiful hardware, but the CD came with a virus on it!. That being said, I'd rather have a virus on my computer than Kies...

abnormica said:
nailerr said:
Except Samsung make the software and... well. Samsung can't make software, a slight problem was my conclusion there. Using the Nexus for Navigation this week though has been flawless and immediate which is a treat.
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This is a ridiculous statement.
Don't get me wrong. It's 100% accurate. It's just that it's ridiculous that a company the size and stature of Samsung can't get their sh!t together when it comes to software. I should have know three years ago when I bought one of their LCD picture frames. Beautiful hardware, but the CD came with a virus on it!. That being said, I'd rather have a virus on my computer than Kies...
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LMAO!
this is so true

It is true, it is insane and it is funny. Well less funny at the price we paid but you know.
It is because of this that I suspect if 2.3 is built for SGS it is not suddenly going to work properly especially since it would seem the filesystem is a big part of the performance.
Mind you, now Google is building the OS with Hummingbird in hand perhaps it will improve slightly by default?

Google Nexus S Complaints Grow, Android Gingerbread To Blame?
Tuesday, 11 January 2011 22:24 Kayla Adams .
The highly anticipated Google Nexus S which debuted recently has all but disappeared from the headlines despite the recent row of new Android smartphones unveiled at CES 2011. However the Android 2.3 Gingerbread smartphone has jumped into the spotlight once again for negative reasons.
Google confirmed reboot bug in Nexus S
The Google Nexus S, manufactured by Samsung, now apparently has a bug which causes the Android to reboot randomly. Google has gone ahead and confirmed the bug which in average causes Nexus S units to randomly reboot at least once every 48 hours. There are also complaints that the handset reboots during calls.
Android Gingerbread software glitch or a Samsung manufacturing defect?
Google engineer Ry Guy, states that the search giant is "in the process of investigating with Samsung" to find the cause of the problem which they managed to reproduce in their labs. Let's hope its not an Android 2.3 Gingerbread bug as many existing Android are looking forward to the upgrade.
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Source:
http://www.gizmocrunch.com/android/4715-google-nexus-s-android-gingerbread-complaints
I hope Samsh!t are at fault just because i want to see them take the heat for something, for once!

kunjar said:
Source:
http://www.gizmocrunch.com/android/4715-google-nexus-s-android-gingerbread-complaints
I hope Samsh!t are at fault just because i want to see them take the heat for something, for once!
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Not all handsets though. We had this as a major problem for SOME users around the world on the Galaxy S. Was fixed in 2.2.
I also had this on my Motorola Milestone, but so far the Nexus S has been running for 2 or 3 weeks with not a single reboot here.

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I have an EVO!

So I bought a EVO from a I/O attendee (much cheaper than they are going for on Ebay)... if anyone has any questions I'd be more than happy to answer any. I have no 4g, but I'm at work right now which is right next to Google, so I'm going to go out in a bit and see if I can latch onto the Mountain View 4g network...
First impression: Wow this is big. I never played with a HD2 in person or anything. I find it big enough I have to strain my thumb to reach across the screen for one handed operation... It's pretty fast though, my Hero is O/C'd to 768 and it is noticeably slower.
Some pics from my Hero:
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These one's are big, and next to my ZuneHD.
http://www.tehlounge.com/t3nny/files/1/IMAG0131.jpg
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Awesome. It doesn't come with a SIM slot right? I don't think so but I figured I'd ask. I can't wait to get it. I want to go into Radioshack and see if they can give it to me earlier.
Tenny said:
So I bought a EVO from a I/O attendee (much cheaper than they are going for on Ebay)... if anyone has any questions I'd be more than happy to answer any. I have no 4g, but I'm at work right now which is right next to Google, so I'm going to go out in a bit and see if I can latch onto the Mountain View 4g network...
First impression: Wow this is big. I never played with a HD2 in person or anything. I find it big enough I have to strain my thumb to reach across the screen for one handed operation... It's pretty fast though, my Hero is O/C'd to 768 and it is noticeably slower.
Some pics from my Hero:
These one's are big, and next to my ZuneHD.
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3 main questions
1)screen toughness compared to hero? the hero has a beast of a screen,
2)is the onscreen keyboard noticeably better? hero screen is unusable imo in portrait with my monster hands
3)general fluidness of senseUI on the EVO? on a scale of buttery goodness from winmo(1) -> iphone (10) how would you rate it? Stock hero IMO being a 6-7
*realize possible flameage from winmo supporters... um... think of something not smooth in the mobile market like a G1 or somehting*
also after you get some time, real life battery consumption based off useage
Can you tell is about the battery? I have read that it uses the same one as the touch pro 2 which is the same one the hero uses. It would be great If it does.
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Awesome. It doesn't come with a SIM slot right? I don't think so but I figured I'd ask. I can't wait to get it. I want to go into Radioshack and see if they can give it to me earlier.
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I don't see any SIM slots, though where the MicroSD slot can look like one a bit, but the SD card is working, so i'll assume that's not a SIM slot
johnsongrantr said:
3 main questions
1)screen toughness compared to hero? the hero has a beast of a screen,
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Not sure to what you mean by "toughness", I'm guessing scratch resistance? I'm not sure yet, I've been babying it to say the least, and going to put a screen protector on as soon as I can. Though it has the same feel as the Hero.
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2)is the onscreen keyboard noticeably better? hero screen is unusable imo in portrait with my monster hands
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It is easier, but I have been making mistakes. I don't think it's perfect but it is more usable.
johnsongrantr said:
3)general fluidness of senseUI on the EVO? on a scale of buttery goodness from winmo(1) -> iphone (10) how would you rate it? Stock hero IMO being a 6-7
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Well I'd rate the stock Hero at a 5, O/C Hero at 7, and this at 9. Always room for improvement.
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Can you tell is about the battery? I have read that it uses the same one as the touch pro 2 which is the same one the hero uses. It would be great If it does.
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Well it's charging right now so I don't wnat to pull it out, but my Hero one laying on top of that one, it looks to be the exact same size. Once charged, I'll swap them around and see if they work the same.
What's in the box with it? I don't think I've seen anything about what it comes with.
Live wallpapers?
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What's in the box with it? I don't think I've seen anything about what it comes with.
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Micro-USB Cable
Power Plug to USB
Manuals
No screen protector / case / etc.
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Live wallpapers?
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Yes, they run smooth too.
Tenny said:
Well it's charging right now so I don't wnat to pull it out, but my Hero one laying on top of that one, it looks to be the exact same size. Once charged, I'll swap them around and see if they work the same.
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Ok, so the batteries fit, and they both work in the opposite device. That's awesome as I have multiple batteries for my Hero!!!
ARRRRRGGGGHHH! You're driving me crazy!!
I was looking on ebay earlier today and almost went for it a couple of times.
My wife has no idea that I am about to drop $500 on this phone (no upgrade discount) on the 4th. If she did, I would never hear the end of it!
So, looks like I will be waiting until the 4th with cash-in-hand.
Congratulations, really! I'm jealous as hell but happy for you also!
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ARRRRRGGGGHHH! You're driving me crazy!!
I was looking on ebay earlier today and almost went for it a couple of times.
My wife has no idea that I am about to drop $500 on this phone (no upgrade discount) on the 4th. If she did, I would never hear the end of it!
So, looks like I will be waiting until the 4th with cash-in-hand.
Congratulations, really! I'm jealous as hell but happy for you also!
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One of the perks of being next to google...
Actually a few of my interns from last summer work at google now, they don't have enough pull, but maybe in a few years I'll really get stuff early.
1. How's the Qik video calling feature? Are you able to use it yet?
2. Any out-of-the-box practical usage for the digital compass?
3. FM radio?
4. What's the built-in video player like? Have you tried playing any flv, avi, divx, xvid, h.264, etc., videos, either from internal memory or SD card?
5. How quickly does the GPS lock in on your position?
6. Have you downloaded any apps yet that stand out on the Evo's screen or hardware?
Finally, we are all very jealous at this point. We still have to wait a few weeks...
Thanks for the info on the batteries. That means I already have a charger and spare batteries for it!!
I do have one last request if it is possible. How does video quality compare with the zuneHD that you have? Do the videos look better on the evo or the zunehd?
Cochina envidia!....(You might need to translate it)......lol
Wow, i pre-ordered mine today in Best Buy. You didn't mention anything about the 8 Gig micro Sd, it wasn't included in the box?
I'm happy for you man!
mikevillarroel said:
Wow, i pre-ordered mine today in Best Buy. You didn't mention anything about the 8 Gig micro Sd, it wasn't included in the box?
I'm happy for you man!
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Yeah, it was already in the phone so I forgot to mention it...
It's a Sandisk, and its class 2 (fail).
ElAguila said:
Thanks for the info on the batteries. That means I already have a charger and spare batteries for it!!
I do have one last request if it is possible. How does video quality compare with the zuneHD that you have? Do the videos look better on the evo or the zunehd?
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I don't have any HD stuff on the Zune sadly, so it wouldn't be a fair comparison. I use it primarily in SD as i just play videos on it while at the gym.
khov07 said:
1. How's the Qik video calling feature? Are you able to use it yet?
2. Any out-of-the-box practical usage for the digital compass?
3. FM radio?
4. What's the built-in video player like? Have you tried playing any flv, avi, divx, xvid, h.264, etc., videos, either from internal memory or SD card?
5. How quickly does the GPS lock in on your position?
6. Have you downloaded any apps yet that stand out on the Evo's screen or hardware?
Finally, we are all very jealous at this point. We still have to wait a few weeks...
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You can see the FM Radio in action in this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pslg402CHss
Look around the 2:50 mark. Basically, you need headphones plugged in to act as the antenna, and it works really well with good sound quality.
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You can see the FM Radio in action in this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pslg402CHss
Look around the 2:50 mark. Basically, you need headphones plugged in to act as the antenna, and it works really well with good sound quality.
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Does the FM Radio support RDS?
What about call volume? On both ends? Some HTC phones I have used are great in quiet room but like in my car with the windows down I can barely hear the other person.
Could you test that please? What about txt/email notification, are those loud enough?

just read this

http://www.pcworld.com/article/204936/samsung_fascinate_crashes_verizons_droid_party.html?tk=hp_new
Unfortunately, not all is peachy when wireless carriers and handset makers start messing with the stock Android experience. Reviews of the Fascinate by Slashgear and Engadget note that the phone uses Bing as its default search engine, not Google - probably more fallout from the cozy Bing-Verizon relationship. That wouldn't be so egregious if you could switch search widgets at will, but alas, the only way to remove Bing is by hacking the phone.
Verizon also swapped in its own Navigator app for Google's free navigation as the default for providing directions, but at least this can be changed in the phone's settings.
mdram-omnia said:
http://www.pcworld.com/article/204936/samsung_fascinate_crashes_verizons_droid_party.html?tk=hp_new
Unfortunately, not all is peachy when wireless carriers and handset makers start messing with the stock Android experience. Reviews of the Fascinate by Slashgear and Engadget note that the phone uses Bing as its default search engine, not Google - probably more fallout from the cozy Bing-Verizon relationship. That wouldn't be so egregious if you could switch search widgets at will, but alas, the only way to remove Bing is by hacking the phone.
Verizon also swapped in its own Navigator app for Google's free navigation as the default for providing directions, but at least this can be changed in the phone's settings.
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True...however i'm not worried. It has a better cpu/gpu/screen than any other android device on vzw right now. I will be rooting and using vanilla and loving it.
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True...however i'm not worried. It has a better cpu/gpu/screen than any other android device on vzw right now. I will be rooting and using vanilla and loving it.
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qft
+1 for me as well.
If you're on XDA complaining about Bing and all the other garbage that comes on the phone, you're preaching to the wrong people.
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qft
+1 for me as well.
If you're on XDA complaining about Bing and all the other garbage that comes on the phone, you're preaching to the wrong people.
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word, hahahahaha
Ok, I've been wanting a Galaxy S variant for a long time now and of the versions available in the US I like the Fascinate the most (I am CERTAINLY wating for confrimation the GPS falw is fixable though before buying). However, this Bing **** is just too much. I don't want to have to root a phone that should aready be MINE, but it's looking like I will have no choice here. Problem is....I'm a super noob and have never rooted any phone ever and don't want to brick it.
So, I need to start reading. Can someone point me to what you think is a really good comprehensive overview of the methods and implications (warranty?, future updates?, reversion to stock os if rom is modded? etc. etc. etc.) involved in rooting a phone. The more exhaustive, detailed and authoritative the source, the better. Thx guise.
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Ok, I've been wanting a Galaxy S variant for a long time now and of the versions available in the US I like the Fascinate the most (I am CERTAINLY wating for confrimation the GPS falw is fixable though before buying). However, this Bing **** is just too much. I don't want to have to root a phone that should aready be MINE, but it's looking like I will have no choice here. Problem is....I'm a super noob and have never rooted any phone ever and don't want to brick it.
So, I need to start reading. Can someone point me to what you think is a really good comprehensive overview of the methods and implications (warranty?, future updates?, reversion to stock os if rom is modded? etc. etc. etc.) involved in rooting a phone. The more exhaustive, detailed and authoritative the source, the better. Thx guise.
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The current Galaxy S variants have a one click root application. You download it, run it, your phone is now rooted. Rooting it simply opens it to do whatever the hell you want. The norm is to find a stripped ROM (also known as vanilla aka plain) and run the phone at its maximum speeds with no frills or fancy eye candy widgets.
The other spectrum is, to root the phone and do what you want, paint the walls pink, add the latest moby song as your ring tones, install custom ROM's, it's up to you.
I'm not the least bit worried about Bing, even if google is locked out of the stock phone, it probably won't be very hard to fix. It's hard to deny the fact that outside of that issue, this is Verizon's best phone (obviously up for argument, but the screen, come on).
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qft
+1 for me as well.
If you're on XDA complaining about Bing and all the other garbage that comes on the phone, you're preaching to the wrong people.
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hahaha +1. Also sig worthy.
Actually the screen is the only think keeping me from this phone. I got a chance to play with one for awhile last night and compare it w/ my D2. The quality of text on the new SAMOLED display is not good. The best way to describe it is an old dot matrix printer. My eyes were actually fatigued from trying to focus and refocus on blurry text. The D2 on the other hand was quite sharp and very easy on the eyes.
Just something to be mindful of if you're one w/ sensitive eyes or don't like fuzzy text. Other than that, it feels very solid in the hand. And I experienced zero lag at any time. Even w/ touchwiz/bing, it made my D2 look like a go-bot.
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Actually the screen is the only think keeping me from this phone. I got a chance to play with one for awhile last night and compare it w/ my D2. The quality of text on the new SAMOLED display is not good. The best way to describe it is an old dot matrix printer. My eyes were actually fatigued from trying to focus and refocus on blurry text. The D2 on the other hand was quite sharp and very easy on the eyes.
Just something to be mindful of if you're one w/ sensitive eyes or don't like fuzzy text. Other than that, it feels very solid in the hand. And I experienced zero lag at any time. Even w/ touchwiz/bing, it made my D2 look like a go-bot.
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What?
I have a droid 2, been using it for about 3 weeks. Have you actually seen an AMOLED screen before side by side next to the droid 2? Text is 1000000 times superior on the AMOLED. Images and movies even more. It even has a higher resolution even thought the AMOLED doesn't need higher res.
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Yes, I've seen one. Yes, I've put the D2 side by side w/ my Zune HD, the Captivate, Vibrant, Epic, and Fascinate. Text on the (S)AMOLED's will never be as sharp as long as the current pentile matrix is being used. It's actually not even 800x400, but 653x392 because each pixel contains only 2 subpixels alternating b,g r,g vs a typical LCD w/ r,g,b r,g,b.
It's fast, responsive, and has inky blacks, but it doesn't do white, proper color, or sharp text. Side by side, text on the D2 IS sharper than any of the Galaxies.
It works for my Zune HD because I'm only watching movies or scrolling around tracks...in black menus. There's no reading going on there. For a phone you're going to do a lot of reading on, it's just not suitable.
IMO, the iPhone 4's display is the perfect match for a phone. It's very bright and extremely clear...like reading paper...from a laser, not a dot matrix like the Galaxy. It's just too small IMO.
I like my droid 2, but couldn't disagree more. The galaxy S is king of the screen quality and by a wide margin.
I think this droid2 has a good screen, but n o different than the EVO in my opinion.
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From ZD Net ...http://www.zdnet.com/reviews/produc...scinate-verizon-wireless/34129372?tag=nl.e550.
Is it possible to put google navigator on this phone , or does one need to root . Don't want to pay $9.95/month for navigation
Yeah, this is getting out of hand. Check Phil's videos out over @ androidcentral. Some pretty nasty stuff. Even though you can get the google search widget, it reroutes through bing! Hitting the little magnifying glass pulls up bing, typing in the url box pulls up bing. And apparently gnav doesn't work...grain of salt there.
Yes, u can put google maps on there as i installed it yesterday when i played with it at the store, GMapps also comes with navigation, we are good guys
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You what i noticed on this forum (fascinate)? A lot of people ready to bash the hell out of it. I see good things in all phones. Yes the droids have bootloader locks, but they have been bypassed. Yes Samsung has GPS issues, but its probably software since they all use the same hardware. Sure the HTC phones are slow, but HTC has been supporting their phones the best.
In XDA forums, which i have been a part of since 2004, a solution to your problems will always be found. To attempt to create panic here is pointless let alone try and do it before the product is even out.
Haha, thanks for the quick reality check. You know, I did have an incredible for a short time and wnet back through some older forum posts only ti find my reason for return did not have anything to do with the text being blurry. I wonder if I could just get used to that, and the overblown colors? I must admit, im very tempted to swap my D2 with the fascinate today. I would be stuck with it tho.

Galaxy S II

Hi, I was an andorid user and when i had one i loved it too bits then came windows phone 7 and im not going to lie i loved that more, however I am due a upgrade and the sheer power of the new andorid phones overpower windows phone 7 handsets and adter watching some youtube videos web browising is faster. However I have a few questions, would you recommened it? How is the batter life with e-mail updates constant/instant and few web browsing. My old android x8 had soem lag, has this now been sorted due to the power or is it jsut andorid os?
Thanks
Here's some things to consider with the SGS2. Some of what's listed effects different users to different degrees.
- Display
There's a band on the left side that seems discolored on a gray background at 20% brightness in the dark. Some see it in everyday use, some don't. I'd venture a guess that more don't or the hue and cry would be louder. If you're anal retentive about your display, check out the 60 page thread.
- Wi-Fi
Seems wonky for some users. It may be equipment specific (EG: router) or strangeness with a particular handset. There's a couple of threads running on that.
- 2G/3G/4G
There's some connectivity issues depending on what network you're on. Make sure your location and/or carrier aren't ones people may be having issues with.
- Audio
If you're an audiophile there's a couple of threads on audio performance which, due to a number of factors, has been deemed by pros to be below that of the original Galaxy.
- Camera
There's a bunch of threads on stills and video. Read them if you're a heavy camera user. Biggest issue now is a pink spot showing up photographing white backgrounds in natural light.
- Battery
Average at best. As things currently are, plan on 10-16 hours depending on how you use the phone. There's an issue in 2.3.3. that effects dual-core phones and Samsung's issuing an update to 2.3.4. any day now which is supposed to correct it.
Based on the way I (and only I) use the phone I'm very happy and the above issues either don't bother me or don't effect me. The phone's fast, the display is beautiful, and it's a great all around device. Compare your hot buttons to those of others and if you think you're good, by all means get the phone.
Don't forget the color banding, gradients don't appear smooth but look banded like they did in the 90's with 16 bit color
godutch said:
Don't forget the color banding, gradients don't appear smooth but look banded like they did in the 90's with 16 bit color
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There's a thread on whether the phone's fully using its 24bit capabilities via the display. The theory is that when software is directly addressing the screen its fine. When drivers get involved it drops to 16bit. The same thing happened to the Nexus S and was fixed in 2.3.4. We're hoping the same thing happens.
I would just like to that all you for your comments, so far all the problems are actully scaring me lol. However with all these problems would you still reccommened this phone? If so do you like it more than your previous andorid phone?
Thanks
andoridkiller said:
I would just like to that all you for your comments, so far all the problems are actully scaring me lol. However with all these problems would you still reccommened this phone? If so do you like it more than your previous andorid phone?
Thanks
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Problems i have none of the above and suggest the ones that do are in a minority as always .
Choice is yours but remember that a forum like tis does not get may saying its brilliant by its very nature those that perceive a problem post those that dont have the problem dont post .
Plus the posters of xxx problem always manage to post multiple threads saying exactly the same .
jje
JJEgan said:
Problems i have none of the above and suggest the ones that do are in a minority as always .
Choice is yours but remember that a forum like tis does not get may saying its brilliant by its very nature those that perceive a problem post those that dont have the problem dont post .
Plus the posters of xxx problem always manage to post multiple threads saying exactly the same .
jje
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+1 nicely put
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andoridkiller said:
I would just like to that all you for your comments, so far all the problems are actully scaring me lol. However with all these problems would you still reccommened this phone? If so do you like it more than your previous andorid phone?
Thanks
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Look, if your just using it as a device that can phone, text, take pics when you need that arent for a magazine or something, play some tunes whilst you are on the bus or whatever, do some modding if you are that way inclined then buy it. If you are fussy about anything like that find something else. People will always find problems with devices like this as they are used to better maybe or compare it to a device thats is specifically for playing music or taking photos. This is a great phone, best i have had and i am well pleased. Just my opinion anyway.
Im so tired of people summing up everyones experience. I have a sgs2 from first batch and I have none of the problems youll find on the first 2-3 pages of threads. Remember like the member above me said, people with complaint threads will post before a postive thread. Complaint threads will get the most attention and see the most post. There might be less then 10 members actually having the problem if you read through the thread.
Display: gradients on screen is really only not that noticable unless your anal. Only time I see it is when I open xda app(takes ages to load on brown screen) and others are seeing it on the intro to angry birds. Not while actually playing but the intro lol. Screen is beautiful and works 99.9% correctly.
Wifi: I have no issues with connection or speed. I download lost of big files daily. Mostly mixtapes and other files usually around a 100mb+. I get connection and my 15-20mbs download no matter where im at in my house.
2g/3g/4g/ My device stays connected through 3g all day. When im actually downloading or using data it switches in 1sec to H+. Real world usage is really fast in North florida but if im playing with speedtest apps I will get mixed reviews.
Audio- I start my music at work around 9am everyday. I work with loud ass dogs and other various animals on a daily basis. Never had a problem with audio coming through my handset and I use the included headphones. At 50% I can hear my audio over barking dogs. In my vehicle with my 2 12s and 1000w amp you can hear me from a block away. Easily matches my wifes iphone4 if not better with poweramps eq.
Camera- No issues here. Just getting back from short trips to jacksonville fl, orlando, and north georgia(mostly ATL) and no pink spots on my photos.
Battery life is all user to user. I myself have the luxury of charging my phone over night unlike others on the website. I can do my heavy using from 9-6 everyday and still have 30-50% when I get home. Music is always playing through headphones(9-6) 2 emails checking hourly, check xda 1000times, browse atleast 20 websites throughout the day and other numerous stuff and can make it home after a work day. If I was anal I could get 2days out of my phone before it actually dies. Remember with android most problems are User Error.
Unless you are in love with Sense, theres no phone that can match it until the next sgs comes out.
BarryH_GEG said:
Here's some things to consider with the SGS2. Some of what's listed effects different users to different degrees.
- Display
There's a band on the left side that seems discolored on a gray background at 20% brightness in the dark. Some see it in everyday use, some don't. I'd venture a guess that more don't or the hue and cry would be louder. If you're anal retentive about your display, check out the 60 page thread.
- Wi-Fi
Seems wonky for some users. It may be equipment specific (EG: router) or strangeness with a particular handset. There's a couple of threads running on that.
- 2G/3G/4G
There's some connectivity issues depending on what network you're on. Make sure your location and/or carrier aren't ones people may be having issues with.
- Audio
If you're an audiophile there's a couple of threads on audio performance which, due to a number of factors, has been deemed by pros to be below that of the original Galaxy.
- Camera
There's a bunch of threads on stills and video. Read them if you're a heavy camera user. Biggest issue now is a pink spot showing up photographing white backgrounds in natural light.
- Battery
Average at best. As things currently are, plan on 10-16 hours depending on how you use the phone. There's an issue in 2.3.3. that effects dual-core phones and Samsung's issuing an update to 2.3.4. any day now which is supposed to correct it.
Based on the way I (and only I) use the phone I'm very happy and the above issues either don't bother me or don't effect me. The phone's fast, the display is beautiful, and it's a great all around device. Compare your hot buttons to those of others and if you think you're good, by all means get the phone.
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Display: gradients on screen is really only not that noticable unless your anal. Only time I see it is when I open xda app(takes ages to load on brown screen) and others are seeing it on the intro to angry birds. Not while actually playing but the intro lol. Screen is beautiful and works 99.9% correctly.
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If you call this "not that noticable" I give up :
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(Nexus One vs S2 @ "the Impossible Game" )
Do you think this is a normal IQ for a High End device like the S2?
As to Angry Birds 1 & Rio (and other games too) it is not only noticable in the intros my friend ... if you play them you will see !
Yeah I consider that not noticable in my book.
1st photo is a picture of the battery charging when phone is turned off if I'm correct. I don't stare at my screen when its just charging. In my real world use ill never see that long enough to annoy me.
2nd pic is when its connected to kies. When I actually use keis I'm not looking at the phone. I'm not saying its not there but the first 2 pics is not something I see daily. Im guessing the 3rd is a game but I don't play it. But the gradient is there.
I'm pretty sure I've heard its a software issue and not hardware. I find the pictures you posted funny. It shows me how hard it is to reproduce the gradients. But like I've said before I must have crap standards to accept a phone with imperfections. Can't believe I spent 700 on the best phone out to date.
To me this is a small issue that's resolved with a software update or one of the amazing devs come up with something. We don't have a ton of choices and I rather have gradients on a FEW screens vs what HTC is doing.
I understand that im a early adaptor of a device. Things may be changed/fixed in the next couple of months like nfc or something.
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Im so tired of people summing up everyones experience.
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So your solution is to sum up yours and assume your individual device and personal expectations trump all? All hail the king.

The Galaxy Note Is The Most Versatile Mobile Device Ever.

Some people regard the Note as being too big to be used as a phone and too small to be used as a tablet. Of course, neither is true because the Note is the most versatile mobile device ever made. The days of having to own a small mobile phone where the screen is too small to be practicable and a tablet which is too big to carry around are over. Thank you Samsung.
X2
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It,s probably the best thing ever done as yo it,s many functions. It,s a great smartphone light and thin with the biggest screen and amazing performance, it has an amazing battery life considering it's hugeness. It's a great ebook using aldiko, it's a fantastic media player for music, video and photos on it's own screen and on tv with hdmi. The quality of the camera is close yo the iphone 4s if not best. The video recording is simply great and of course it is better that any gps navigator you can buy since it positioning technology is the fastest i've ever seen. No doubt this phone is the gadget of the year
I do understand the critique; too large for a phone... too small for a tablet.
There is some truth to that. Let's admit it.
But... if you want a go anywhere device that does it all... The Note is for you.
I love it!
CGI_Ram said:
I do understand the critique; too large for a phone... too small for a tablet.
There is some truth to that. Let's admit it.
But... if you want a go anywhere device that does it all... The Note is for you.
I love it!
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For those critiques...
Show us a device that is big enough as a tablet and small enough to be a phone
I agree, but there is rumor the Galaxy S III will be buttonless in front and 5" which I think is just right:http://www.slashgear.com/samsung-ga...already-realistic-press-images-leak-23204379/
5.3" is slightly bit much.
One month in and still impressed with this phone. It really is the best mobile device I've ever used.
-Camera quality is excellent.
-Love using the stylus for notes and drawing/doodling.
-Bought a car mount and uses it as my main GPS since the screen is large. Due to GLONASS system, the satellite lockin is awesome, even indoor.
-Never use my Windows tablet anymore, since the Note can handle website and 720p flash contents without sweat.
-Became my sole ebook reader due to the resolution.
-This is the first phone where I felt the onscreen controller for games are actually very usable that I don't (always) need an extra bluetooth gamepad, due to the screen estate.
-Screen quality is amazing, but importantly the hardware can handle the HD MKV videos and have microSD support to store them. I am not ashamed to admit I take delight in the fact the screen quality and viewing angle literally destroy the iPhone 4S screen of peers.
-It's a long phone, my mouth does not even reach down to mic, but delighted people across the line can hear me fine and I'm not a loud mouth. (Though I am on custom rom which might improves the Phone app over stock.)
-With custom rom, it support OpenVPN which is a big deal for me.
I'm so glad I returned the Nexus for the Note. Only downside so far is no official 1700mhz support for T-Mobile , hope something can be done about it.
The size is a personal thing,for me its perfect for both as a phone and a tablet.
J had a Galaxy 10.1 it put a big stress on my arm,to use it I had to lift my arm all the time,so I gave it to my wife a Cello player.
Now with my GNote I sit for hours surfing the net without any stress since I just use my fingers to operate the entire device without lifting an arm,this is even more obvious when I play chess in long sessions,so can't be more happier with the size.
I agree. Its the best phone I have ever used. The huge screen is really an advantage in all aspects.
eksasol said:
I agree, but there is rumor the Galaxy S III will be buttonless in front and 5" which I think is just right:http://www.slashgear.com/samsung-ga...already-realistic-press-images-leak-23204379/
5.3" is slightly bit much.
One month in and still impressed with this phone. It really is the best mobile device I've ever used.
-Camera quality is excellent.
-Love using the stylus for notes and drawing/doodling.
-Bought a car mount and uses it as my main GPS since the screen is large. Due to GLONASS system, the satellite lockin is awesome, even indoor.
-Never use my Windows tablet anymore, since the Note can handle website and 720p flash contents without sweat.
-Became my sole ebook reader due to the resolution.
-This is the first phone where I felt the onscreen controller for games are actually very usable that I don't (always) need an extra bluetooth gamepad, due to the screen estate.
-Screen quality is amazing, but importantly the hardware can handle the HD MKV videos and have microSD support to store them. I am not ashamed to admit I take delight in the fact the screen quality and viewing angle literally destroy the iPhone 4S screen of peers.
-It's a long phone, my mouth does not even reach down to mic, but delighted people across the line can hear me fine and I'm not a loud mouth. (Though I am on custom rom which might improves the Phone app over stock.)
-With custom rom, it support OpenVPN which is a big deal for me.
I'm so glad I returned the Nexus for the Note. Only downside so far is no official 1700mhz support for T-Mobile , hope something can be done about it.
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Amen! I'm with you in every thing you said, except fot the VPN wich I don't know what is it lol...
eksasol said:
I agree, but there is rumor the Galaxy S III will be buttonless in front and 5" which I think is just right:http://www.slashgear.com/samsung-ga...already-realistic-press-images-leak-23204379/
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Thats fake picture and SGS3 will come as 4.65" as I guess. There are no real leaked picture of SGS 3 yet and all just guessing.
http://www.androidcentral.com/not-samsung-galaxy-s-iii?utm_source=ac&utm_medium=twitter
Another "leaked" picture:
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5,3" is good for surf/video and thats the most important I got the Note for.
S-Pen is a plus and handy if wanna write some short notes to what to buy, since I always forget something at stores, after i got home.
Tab is too big too carry along and 4,3" phone (or whatever size) is just too small for surf/video. Also carry 2 device is not funny.
The Notes 5,3" is perfect and u get 2in1 hybrid device to carry with u.
True
It replaces mobile, tab and PC to an extent. And then, it replaces pen and paper!
(and, camera, music, navigation too but that's given)
eksasol said:
I agree, but there is rumor the Galaxy S III will be buttonless in front and 5" which I think is just right:http://www.slashgear.com/samsung-ga...already-realistic-press-images-leak-23204379/
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If that phone were real, I would buy it the instant it was available, and I'd pay $1500 for it without batting an eye. That is my dream device. The only thing I'd want different is for the stylus to be stored onboard. Unfortunately, it's just a concept.
CGI_Ram said:
I do understand the critique; too large for a phone... too small for a tablet.
There is some truth to that. Let's admit it.
But... if you want a go anywhere device that does it all... The Note is for you.
I love it!
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How large is too large? When I first got the HD2 people said it was too large. This is ideal for what it does. Sammy has got it right.
romac said:
How large is too large? When I first got the HD2 people said it was too large. This is ideal for what it does. Sammy has got it right.
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For me; pocketability
I agree... Sammy got it right.
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drgopoos said:
For those critiques...
Show us a device that is big enough as a tablet and small enough to be a phone
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Ha ha ha! True.
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black pixels while waching movies. help needed.

whwnever I watch any movie on my note, some weird pixels appears.
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You might have a defected screen, did you just buy your Note? If you just bought it you might need to exchange your device, Samsung neglects quality for quantity
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I bought this 2 months back.
do they replace this?
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All the notes have the sale problem so dont worry
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That`s just a poorly encoded video, the blacks look really bad on my notebook, never mind my note.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fLexgOxsZu0
John.
Thread number 9000 what you can do is search and read and complain @samsung
Like Oka
Or claim warranted and when getting new unit test instore
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Tinderbox (UK) said:
That`s just a poorly encoded video, the blacks look really bad on my notebook, never mind my note.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fLexgOxsZu0
John.
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This is not poorly encoded video, its due to bad gamma settings on the Notes screen, I get the black clipping even on the highesy quality encodes, as do many many others. I even get this on pictures taken with the Notes camera, yet I view the same images on other devices and they look perfect.
Your right, I just tried it on my 50" plasma and i black areas do have more detail but not a lot more, and i can see why my notebook and the note are having problems.
My first note had really bad black clipping, and i returned and bought a second and this one is much much better.
John.
CONTACTMC said:
This is not poorly encoded video, its due to bad gamma settings on the Notes screen, I get the black clipping even on the highesy quality encodes, as do many many others. I even get this on pictures taken with the Notes camera, yet I view the same images on other devices and they look perfect.
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CONTACTMC said:
This is not poorly encoded video, its due to bad gamma settings on the Notes screen, I get the black clipping even on the highesy quality encodes, as do many many others. I even get this on pictures taken with the Notes camera, yet I view the same images on other devices and they look perfect.
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Nah, it's quite encoding dependent whether you get black clipping or not. On certain encodes the blacks are perfect and on others they clip.
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Zamboney said:
Nah, it's quite encoding dependent whether you get black clipping or not. On certain encodes the blacks are perfect and on others they clip.
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So the Notes camera is encoding pics taken with its camera to look like crap on its own screen but good on all other devices?
This has been discussed in a million threads, there is deffo an issue with the device, not the encodes.
Videos that look great on my Nexus s, wifes gs2, ipod touch and my hd tv look like crap on my note when displaying shaded / dark images.
CONTACTMC said:
This is not poorly encoded video, its due to bad gamma settings on the Notes screen, I get the black clipping even on the highesy quality encodes, as do many many others. I even get this on pictures taken with the Notes camera, yet I view the same images on other devices and they look perfect.
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Incorrect. This video is just poorly encoded. Whether its the source or youtube compression, it clips on my laptop & desktop.
There are notes out there that do not have black clipping. I have one, as far as I know. I've never seen black clipping on my device so there are a few good ones out there.
LxMxFxD said:
Incorrect. This video is just poorly encoded. Whether its the source or youtube compression, it clips on my laptop & desktop.
There are notes out there that do not have black clipping. I have one, as far as I know. I've never seen black clipping on my device so there are a few good ones out there.
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So how does that explain the black and grey blocks when I view pictures on my note dude?
Because you have a bad one!
John.
CONTACTMC said:
So how does that explain the black and grey blocks when I view pictures on my note dude?
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Tinderbox (UK) said:
Because you have a bad one!
John.
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Well I am on my third one now, kinda given up on ever getting this problem resolved.
This issue with black clipping/pixelation is a known issue called black crush.
It currently affects almost all notes, but for some odd reason only while watching videos, and sometimes photos (not playing games/regular usage).
Yes viewing a video which has been encoded well does somewhat help this issue, it does not fully resolve it.
The only full resolution to this issue will come from Samsung in the form of a new ROM or a patch.
Please search the general and development forums for a thread regarding this for more information.
Cheers!
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Ranafram said:
This issue with black clipping/pixelation is a known issue called black crush.
It currently affects almost all notes, but for some odd reason only while watching videos, and sometimes photos (not playing games/regular usage).
Yes viewing a video which has been encoded well does somewhat help this issue, it does not fully resolve it.
The only full resolution to this issue will come from Samsung in the form of a new ROM or a patch.
Please search the general and development forums for a thread regarding this for more information.
Cheers!
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source?
Ranafram said:
This issue with black clipping/pixelation is a known issue called black crush.
It currently affects almost all notes, but for some odd reason only while watching videos, and sometimes photos (not playing games/regular usage).
Yes viewing a video which has been encoded well does somewhat help this issue, it does not fully resolve it.
The only full resolution to this issue will come from Samsung in the form of a new ROM or a patch.
Please search the general and development forums for a thread regarding this for more information.
Cheers!
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janice1234 said:
source?
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As I said in my previous reply: "Search"
Here I did a few for you:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1707071
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1710961
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1652071
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1594929
Now to learn more please search/read each thread.
There are a couple methods to try and ease the issue, but none of which are very efficient or practical.
Cheers!
Ranafram said:
As I said in my previous reply: "Search"
Here I did a few for you:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1707071
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1710961
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1652071
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1594929
Now to learn more please search/read each thread.
There are a couple methods to try and ease the issue, but none of which are very efficient or practical.
Cheers!
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what i mean is this
Code:
The only full resolution to this issue will come from Samsung in the form of a new ROM or a patch.
Please search the general and development forums for a thread regarding this for more information.
where did you get such info about that samsung will released a fix for this issue in the form of a new rom or patch?
I believe that this is a driver/firmware issue to do with the screen, and not the technology itself, seeing that it is uncommon in other phones using similar technology for their display.
I do not have a particular official source saying that Samsung will release a fix, but in the occasion that they do it'll be some sort of patch to fix the firmware or install new drivers. This may come on its own, or I believe that it is possible that they may not release it unless it is fully integrated into a ROM they distribute. (Explaining my argument that it'll be released in a patch or ROM)
I am not saying that I am absolutely correct, but this is what I have come to a conclusion on based on my months of following this issue.
Take it as you wish.
Sent from my Paranoid Note (N7000)
I think it is a hardware fault with the screens or the controller, as notes with identical software one has bad black crush and another may only have slightly.
Also the "screen adjuster" app, setting that work on one note, don't work on another, each note is slightly or major difference, and if a fix is found will have to calibrated individually.
My second note has a great screen, virtually zero black crush, my first note had it really bad, and was returned.
One thing i don't want is Samsung releasing a update that adjusts the screens on all notes to the same, as i don't want my good note screen changed.
John.

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