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Anyone Considering Evo.....(you better be) should check this out...

Im buying which ever is released first the day it comes out. Gemini tablet is a BEAST though....Ive been drooling over it for awhile. Only tabby with a 3g radio for voice calls,plus dual core 1ghz, thats sick. Just something to check out case you didnt know about it.....
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ICD Gemini Tablet
Gemini has beautiful 11.2" screen, compared to iPad’s 9.7" – a whole 1.5" larger diagonally. This gives us 8.38 square inches of extra viewing space to ogle at.
But this is just the beginning. Gemini specs include:
an ultra-fast dual core nVidia Tegra 2 1GHz CPU
a 3G connection with voice, SMS, and MMS support
2 cameras – 5MP autofocus on the back and 2MP fixed focus on the front – hey, that’s way more than even my desktop’s webcam has!
a GPS – the iPad doesn’t have any
a user replaceable 40Wh battery compared to iPad’s 25Wh one
an SD card reader
support for playing 1080P video
a promise to support Adobe Flash which is not too shocking considering this is an Android platform
dual speakers AND dual microphones for noise cancellation
FM radio
USB ports – iPad doesn’t even have any
a 1366 x 768 pixel resolution
Bluetooth 2.1 + EDR, infrared
Android (of course, why else would we talk about it here?)
11.8" x 7.5" x 6" dimensions
If you dont know everything about the EVO then slap yourself now​

I missed all that and am stuck staring at your GIF.
is there a TL;DR version?

The Evo is a very interesting device. For sure when it comes time to upgrade it'll be my device of choice.

I'm definitely not getting the EVO. I might if it didnt have Sense UI but its just not worth all that money. My next phone is gonna be the Nexus... and it has a trackball too.

HeroHTC said:
I missed all that and am stuck staring at your GIF.
is there a TL;DR version?
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TL;DR : ICD Gemini Tablet > iPad; HTC EVO > *

These two devices are not even remotely the same. Can you imagine holding something larger than an iPad up to your face to make phone calls?
One is a phone, one is not. Why the comparison?
Epic GIF though.

I need a phone with computer like abilities more than a computer with phone like abilities. The Gemini is too big to just carry around everywhere you go.

evo for me!!!!

Sawawa said:
These two devices are not even remotely the same. Can you imagine holding something larger than an iPad up to your face to make phone calls?
One is a phone, one is not. Why the comparison?
Epic GIF though.
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IT HAS A 3G RADIO CAPABLE OF VOICE CALLS. THATS A PHONE. I like a full keyboard and i can make vid calls why would i put it by my face? Google it, if you dont realize how sick it is, then you are most likely ill. How many phones
do you know of with dual core 1ghz processors? Not that many right.......
And if you can add 1+1, then youd realize this is not a comparison, i was making those unaware, aware of an awesome piece of tech. Sorry to see you missed the point by leaps and bounds.
and yeah the funniest part of the gif is when he shoots the little girl​

MagnusRagnarok said:
Im buying which ever is released first the day it comes out. Gemini tablet is a BEAST though....Ive been drooling over it for awhile. Only tabby with a 3g radio for voice calls,plus dual core 1ghz, thats sick. Just something to check out case you didnt know about it.....
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THERE WILL BE BLOOD
ICD Gemini Tablet
Gemini has beautiful 11.2" screen, compared to iPad’s 9.7" – a whole 1.5" larger diagonally. This gives us 8.38 square inches of extra viewing space to ogle at.
But this is just the beginning. Gemini specs include:
an ultra-fast dual core nVidia Tegra 2 1GHz CPU
a 3G connection with voice, SMS, and MMS support
2 cameras – 5MP autofocus on the back and 2MP fixed focus on the front – hey, that’s way more than even my desktop’s webcam has!
a GPS – the iPad doesn’t have any
a user replaceable 40Wh battery compared to iPad’s 25Wh one
an SD card reader
support for playing 1080P video
a promise to support Adobe Flash which is not too shocking considering this is an Android platform
dual speakers AND dual microphones for noise cancellation
FM radio
USB ports – iPad doesn’t even have any
a 1366 x 768 pixel resolution
Bluetooth 2.1 + EDR, infrared
Android (of course, why else would we talk about it here?)
11.8" x 7.5" x 6" dimensions
If you dont know everything about the EVO then slap yourself now​
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That Gemini will be hard to fit in your pocket......lol

Even though the Gemini is pretty cool device... when I want to purchase a mobile device... I'm going to look for a mobile device, not a tablet. Even if it can make phone calls and such... it isn't portable and it no longer becomes a feasible mobile device in my eyes.
The Evo has large enough screen, especially at 4.3"... it'll be the biggest screen in the mobile/smart phone scene. So, with that instead, I still plan on getting the Evo over any device as of right now.

MagnusRagnarok said:
and yeah the funniest part of the gif is when he shoots the little girl​
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Thanks for the good info on the Gemini Tablet but I think your gif is sick.

The funny part of the gif is the whole thing.
This inspires an analogy. Apple is like the spoiled rich kid who has everything he wants when he's young and android is the middle class kid who worked his ass off to achieve something great and is now shining light on the fact that apple has been blowing daddys money on over priced crap his whole life.
Android... Im speechless, just awesome!

MagnusRagnarok said:
IT HAS A 3G RADIO CAPABLE OF VOICE CALLS. THATS A PHONE. I like a full keyboard and i can make vid calls why would i put it by my face? Google it, if you dont realize how sick it is, then you are most likely ill. How many phones
do you know of with dual core 1ghz processors? Not that many right.......
And if you can add 1+1, then youd realize this is not a comparison, i was making those unaware, aware of an awesome piece of tech. Sorry to see you missed the point by leaps and bounds.
and yeah the funniest part of the gif is when he shoots the little girl​
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When you decided to put the "vs" in there. you turned it into a comparison. Along with deciding between the two. They're two completely different devices, that's the same as deciding between a laptop and a phone. Calling capabilities doesn't make it a phone since you can technically make calls from your home pc or laptop. Both great devices, but not sure why you'd choose one over the other. If it's a phone you need, evo, if it's a tablet you want, gemini. simple

schizopunk said:
I'm definitely not getting the EVO. I might if it didnt have Sense UI but its just not worth all that money. My next phone is gonna be the Nexus... and it has a trackball too.
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I'm sure there will be a great custom rom without sense and if not you could just disable it. The evo has the nexus beat in everything.

nebenezer said:
The funny part of the gif is the whole thing.
This inspires an analogy. Apple is like the spoiled rich kid who has everything he wants when he's young and android is the middle class kid who worked his ass off to achieve something great and is now shining light on the fact that apple has been blowing daddys money on over priced crap his whole life.
Android... Im speechless, just awesome!
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Well put!

MuzikJay said:
When you decided to put the "vs" in there. you turned it into a comparison. Along with deciding between the two. They're two completely different devices, that's the same as deciding between a laptop and a phone. Calling capabilities doesn't make it a phone since you can technically make calls from your home pc or laptop. Both great devices, but not sure why you'd choose one over the other. If it's a phone you need, evo, if it's a tablet you want, gemini. simple
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This, thanks.

MuzikJay said:
When you decided to put the "vs" in there. you turned it into a comparison. Along with deciding between the two. They're two completely different devices, that's the same as deciding between a laptop and a phone. Calling capabilities doesn't make it a phone since you can technically make calls from your home pc or laptop. Both great devices, but not sure why you'd choose one over the other. If it's a phone you need, evo, if it's a tablet you want, gemini. simple
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Thanks, I was just about to post a reply exactly like this one.

rjj1976 said:
Thanks for the good info on the Gemini Tablet but I think your gif is sick.
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That gif is sick...you are a sick one....ROFL

the garmin is great but it wouldnt be a great mobile device... it would be a GREAT alternative to the ipad though when i get the money i would definitely buy the garmin instead of the ipad....
but for a mobile device i would rather get the evo or something a little bigger like one of the dell phones

G2 Q&A

Anyone have some questions about it they'd like answered?
Is the trackpad illuminated? Trackpad isn't, but around it glows white every 30 seconds or so. On incoming calls it flashes.
How's the picture and video quality? Nothing amazing but I am not disappointed. The camera app is very responsive. Low-light pictures aren't that great and there are some obvious artifacts, but that's to be expected. Colors seem washed out in low-light, and slightly over-saturated and "blown out" in decent light. The flash is pretty bright and works well. Video is not bad at all but being a spoiled video encoder for the best video tracker on the internet, it's not as good as I'd like -- not that I expected it to be from a phone. On complex/action scenes it seems a little bitrate-starved. May be a limitation of the 3gp container or hardware -- I'm not sure.
720p Video:
Outdoors - Fairly impressed with how smooth it is. Had to cut the video short to avoid showing pooping action to the world (don't worry, entirely safe for work ).
Indoors - Same color issues as the camera, but really cannot complain. It's friggin' 720p video recording in my pocket.
How big is it? Slightly thinner than the G1. I honestly think it's a very reasonable size. It doesn't feel as thick since it's also wider. I don't see how anyone can complain about the size, but I'm also someone who's grown up using HTC QWERTY phones.
How fast is it? WOW. Of course, this is based on my use of the G1, but damn is it fast! Everything is as smooth as could be on Android. Not iPhone smooth, but it's more of an OS thing. I will report back with benchmarks after I wipe the G1 and install the latest CyanogenMod6 so it's a fair(ish) comparison.
How is the screen? Very nice. Crisp, bright, and the color is great. The screen feels a bit more plastic-ish than some other phones, but I'm not complaining. Doesn't feel cheap and isn't anything to worry about, honestly. It does attract fingerprints and smudges.
Is Swype pre-installed? Yes!
What else is pre-installed? Amazon MP3, Browser, Calculator, Calendar, Camera, Car Home, Clock, Contacts, Earth, Email, Facebook, Finance, Gallery, Gmail, Goggles, Google Search, Google Sky Map, Google Translate, Latitude, Listen, Maps, Market, Messaging, Music, My Account, My Device, My Tracks, Navigation, News and Weather, Phone, Photobucket, Places, Quick Keys, Quickoffice, Settings, Setup, Shopper, Talk, TTS Service Extended, Twitter, Voice, Voice Dialer, Voice Search, web2go, YouTube. I understand a lot of these are just basic Android apps, but that's the entire app tray. There is also Adobe Flash Player 10.1.
Is Adobe Flash installed? Yes.
How much memory? It comes with the 8gb MicroSD already installed, and reports 7.39GB free. Internal phone storage reports 1.23GB free.
How's the keyboard? Feels very nice and tactile, just the way your mother likes it. Will take me a little while to get used to after using the G1 for 2 years. Not only because it's a row shorter, but because a lot is moved relative to its location on the G1. For example: I keep pressing .com when I mean to press 'a'
How are voice actions? I honestly don't know if this is a new feature, but it is pretty darn nice. I can see it coming in handy when driving, assuming it doesn't pick up too much noise (my car isn't quiet ).
How loud is the speaker? Doesn't seem very loud. It's loud enough for most situations, but I surely wouldn't try using it in a noisy location. It sounds equally loud as the G1.
How is the signal strength? Honestly, seems about the same as my G1. I get full strength everywhere I had full strength, and have no signal in the same places (in my house, and in a huge building at work...).
How responsive? Very responsive. I've not noticed any lag no matter how many apps I have running. Pinch-zoom is always smooth. Scrolling long lists (200+ contacts, for example) is smooth. Anyone coming from a G1 will be extremely happy.
Battery life? Very good so far, but I haven't done a complete discharge cycle yet to make the meter more accurate. Compared to my G1, it's significantly better, but my G1 is 2 years old and the batteries do lose capacity. So far, I'm not worried at all. I'll report back after a couple days of use, although by then you all should have one
Is there a mystery hole (lol) for noise canceling by the speakerphone grill? I don't see any mystery hole. If the angle of light is just right, you can barely see where the sensors are to the left of the speaker grill. Maybe the earlier pictures were prototypes and the hole was for the sensors.
Can I hold the phone how I want? Heck yes. I'm sure if you do some funky death grip solely to prove you can hold it and lose some signal like some other companies like to do, that you could find a way to hold it and lose some signal. Normal use you will not have any issues and I can't find a way to hold it that would make it lose signal.
Does the LED change colors when charged? Yes, amber when charging and green when fully charged.
Does it come with a case? No. Only comes with a usb cable, headphones, and a usb wall charger.
Does the package require signature? Mine didn't. He walked to the door and handed me a padded envelope with the box in it and left.
Other notes:
- It will not update Google Goggles. Always says the update was unsuccessful.
- I don't understand the point of the "My Device" icon. It takes me to the same place as "My Account."

I think the biggest is the trackpad. Is there a light? And PS i hate u lol

Lucky you, I have a question, is there a light around the trackpad?

eyoung1978 said:
Lucky you, I have a question, is there a light around the trackpad?
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That is like the biggest ? now. I would off taken today off

post some pics from camera so we can see quality also a short video in HD

Most other people will be getting there's tomorrow like me. So I'm guessing we should start making new threads for all the question. That y we won't have a million micro post
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What phone are using now?
If it's a n1 please get a side shot comparison to see the thickness difference.

I'm kicking it old school with the G1
I was one of those impatiently waiting for the preorder to start, and of course had it preordered the first day.
I will take pictures and record some HD video, indoors and out. Fortunately the weather is nice today.
xile6 - not really sure what you're saying, but if I'm understanding you right I'll be putting the questions/answers at top to find them easily. This thread will only be around for a few hours anyway, since most others will get theirs tomorrow

Jorsher said:
I'm kicking it old school with the G1
I was one of those impatiently waiting for the preorder to start, and of course had it preordered the first day.
I will take pictures and record some HD video, indoors and out. Fortunately the weather is nice today.
xile6 - not really sure what you're saying, but if I'm understanding you right I'll be putting the questions/answers at top to find them easily. This thread will only be around for a few hours anyway, since most others will get theirs tomorrow
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Yes i just made a post with from fqa
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=8372387#post8372387

Yes the track pad has a light around it. So far only one color. I have been using it for a day now. One issue is googles goggles won't update.... not really a big deal but that's one thing I've noticed. Coming from the Nexus its very similar so that's good. Size wise it is not that noticeably bigger but you can tell when you hold it. Swype comes stock. That's about all I have for now. Oh the slid mechanism feels pretty solid as well.
Sent from my T-Mobile G2 using XDA App

what about any lag? how is the browser scrolling? pinch and zoom lag? how about flash content? i heard it is hardware accelerated for flash content... ummmm how about the stock launcher in general is it smooth? i don't know about everyone else but i'm commin from a g1 and these were big issues with me. well minus the flash we had none lol. Also how about multi-tasking? music playing browsing at the same time.. need info pleeez lol
P.S. any cool new google app programs that we don't already have in froyo that you can notice? any issues with facebook or sync?

JCopernicus said:
What phone are using now?
If it's a n1 please get a side shot comparison to see the thickness difference.
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From http://www.tmonews.com/2010/09/the-g2-has-started-shipping-has-yours/
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Thanks for the heads up.
I'm gonna have to sit it out and wait until they have a demo at the local store, still looks a little to thick for me.

Browsers pretty smooth flash player is about the same as the N1 I went to a flash site and it played fine it took a bit to load but it was about the same as the N1. Launcher is silly fast tho....
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Track pad is not illuminated, and noticing right now that there isn't a notification light, the light for battery charging is on the right side of the speaker grill, but it's under the grill
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Oh and you can't uninstall the Google apps you don't use which is pretty common.
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The track pad is not illuminated but the part around the track pad is.
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IMPEREAL said:
The track pad is not illuminated but the part around the track pad is.
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Would you mind checking Wi-Fi strengh, how far or how many walls affect the reception.

also is anyone on the new hspa+ network. flash should come up fast on the faster network... someone needs to try out a movie lol

crr127 said:
also is anyone on the new hspa+ network. flash should come up fast on the faster network... someone needs to try out a movie lol
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http://www.androidcentral.com/how-fast-g2-hspa

Nexus S / Galaxy S comparison and review up

Based on the GT-I9000 SGS for us outside the states, I've had a bash at comparing the Nexus to my Galaxy and put up the differences, improvements and disappointments to try and help anyone on the edge decide which phone is better for them:
http://technocrate.net/post/2680798304/google-nexus-s-uk-eu-review-and-galaxy-s-comparison

Conclusion / Summary:
SGS is better
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this is coming from a heavy user of both phones (me)

Nexus s: gingerbread and flash on camera
Galaxy s: fm radio, external sd card and HD recording at a higher frames per second.
Clear winner has got to be the galaxy s,
Note: missing an external sd is awful.
I Can't wait for gingerbread to hit the galaxy s
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AllGamer said:
Conclusion / Summary:
SGS is better
this is coming from a heavy user of both phones (me)
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Except Samsung make the software and... well. Samsung can't make software, a slight problem was my conclusion there. Using the Nexus for Navigation this week though has been flawless and immediate which is a treat.

chrisjcks said:
Nexus s: gingerbread and flash on camera
Galaxy s: fm radio, external sd card and HD recording at a higher frames per second.
Clear winner has got to be the galaxy s,
Note: missing an external sd is awful.
I Can't wait for gingerbread to hit the galaxy s
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Not a disagreement on the topic as it is personal but I have never, ever needed an external memory card. And the SGS is way better at video which I have actually got to post soon a proper side by side recording demo, but I really do not care. At all. An that struck me as odd..
I think not everyone needs video in HD and some people may claim they do then entirely ignore the function. I prefer battery life and call quality over 720p video. But this is a personal thing.

something that should be mentioned as well
the Samsung Nexus S DOES NOT have gorilla glass, it will break if you drop it the wrong way
the SNS has NFC (which i rather trade for a microSD support)
i ran out of space too many times already, it's really hitting a nerve
is very annoying to have to keep uninstalling stuff, to be able to try something new

AllGamer said:
something that should be mentioned as well
the Samsung Nexus S DOES NOT have gorilla glass, it will break if you drop it the wrong way
the SNS has NFC (which i rather trade for a microSD support)
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Edited to re-include the GGlass thing, I had it in an early draft and forgot on the rewrite..
SD over NFC... I'm sort of with you, I don't use either. But the NFC has been amusing so far just to wave it over the security tags at work, it's vaguely possible something interesting will come of that and the developer community.

nailerr said:
Based on the GT-I9000 SGS for us outside the states, I've had a bash at comparing the Nexus to my Galaxy and put up the differences, improvements and disappointments to try and help anyone on the edge decide which phone is better for them:
http://technocrate.net/post/2680798304/google-nexus-s-uk-eu-review-and-galaxy-s-comparison
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Good article. Please fix the typos, namely differentiating between 'its' and 'it's' as they have completely different meanings.

matt310 said:
Good article. Please fix the typos, namely differentiating between 'its' and 'it's' as they have completely different meanings.
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Honestly, I never learnt any sort of language at school so this is mostly an amalgamation of what I have read and worked out since..
I shall certainly have a go. It's as in It Is and Its for possessive.
Ok that was at least a quick set of corrections. I fear there will be more to do in general though perhaps after sleeping some. Thanks for the pointer.

nailerr said:
Edited to re-include the GGlass thing, I had it in an early draft and forgot on the rewrite..
SD over NFC... I'm sort of with you, I don't use either. But the NFC has been amusing so far just to wave it over the security tags at work, it's vaguely possible something interesting will come of that and the developer community.
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Singapore is now conducting trials for NFC applications. Though right now the use is limited, but I foresee in the near future that NFC is going to find its use, perhaps even sooner than expected.
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i wouldnt get too bent out of shape regarding the sgs video recording.. i mostly use it in loud environments ie concerts and the video recording on the sgs is useless all you get is noise... anyone compare on the nexus s how recording is in loud environments.

g00ndu said:
Singapore is now conducting trials for NFC applications. Though right now the use is limited, but I foresee in the near future that NFC is going to find its use, perhaps even sooner than expected.
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It's certainly going to see more use in some regions than others at first, outside those who have it now. Where I am it will probably remain a curiosity for the time being.

lgkahn said:
i wouldnt get too bent out of shape regarding the sgs video recording.. i mostly use it in loud environments ie concerts and the video recording on the sgs is useless all you get is noise... anyone compare on the nexus s how recording is in loud environments.
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No but it is something I could try although it may have to be faked with my stereo.
I have some night time video and regular phone call recordings which I need to mix up and put on youtube or somewhere yet - tumblr is not too good at mixing multimedia into a text post apparently.
I am open to questions on the topic, it would help me add more in a follow up post later on. The idea is to help people make a choice, even if they decide an HTC or iPhone is best for them.

SGS video recording @ 720p is good although the audio stream is pathetic. Even when trying to shoot a video of my floorstanding speakers playing music, the audio statistics of the file generated are horrendous.
Last time i checked i got 62kbps bitrate and 32KHz sample rate. This is by no means 21st century stuff. Garbage.
Audio playback through headphones sucks majorly compared to my ipod. Makes me wonder why i chose this plastic piece of junk.
GPS is top notch, on my 6th replacement handset from orange...oh its something alright. The replacement i received this morning gives a slight pink/red tint when using the camera function, focussing on a white sheet of paper.
Should have gone for the iphone4, shoots great video with good sound, plays good sound, gps works...thats all i need. Oh and mic is clear for calls. I am by no means an Apple fanboy, i just want something that WORKS! Silly i know...

lgkahn said:
i wouldnt get too bent out of shape regarding the sgs video recording.. i mostly use it in loud environments ie concerts and the video recording on the sgs is useless all you get is noise... anyone compare on the nexus s how recording is in loud environments.
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i'll try that on the next concert or public performance i get to visit
last time i tried it on the SGS, the sound was horrible, but video was crispy clear, even during Dawn

nailerr said:
Except Samsung make the software and... well. Samsung can't make software, a slight problem was my conclusion there. Using the Nexus for Navigation this week though has been flawless and immediate which is a treat.
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This is a ridiculous statement.
Don't get me wrong. It's 100% accurate. It's just that it's ridiculous that a company the size and stature of Samsung can't get their sh!t together when it comes to software. I should have know three years ago when I bought one of their LCD picture frames. Beautiful hardware, but the CD came with a virus on it!. That being said, I'd rather have a virus on my computer than Kies...

abnormica said:
nailerr said:
Except Samsung make the software and... well. Samsung can't make software, a slight problem was my conclusion there. Using the Nexus for Navigation this week though has been flawless and immediate which is a treat.
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This is a ridiculous statement.
Don't get me wrong. It's 100% accurate. It's just that it's ridiculous that a company the size and stature of Samsung can't get their sh!t together when it comes to software. I should have know three years ago when I bought one of their LCD picture frames. Beautiful hardware, but the CD came with a virus on it!. That being said, I'd rather have a virus on my computer than Kies...
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LMAO!
this is so true

It is true, it is insane and it is funny. Well less funny at the price we paid but you know.
It is because of this that I suspect if 2.3 is built for SGS it is not suddenly going to work properly especially since it would seem the filesystem is a big part of the performance.
Mind you, now Google is building the OS with Hummingbird in hand perhaps it will improve slightly by default?

Google Nexus S Complaints Grow, Android Gingerbread To Blame?
Tuesday, 11 January 2011 22:24 Kayla Adams .
The highly anticipated Google Nexus S which debuted recently has all but disappeared from the headlines despite the recent row of new Android smartphones unveiled at CES 2011. However the Android 2.3 Gingerbread smartphone has jumped into the spotlight once again for negative reasons.
Google confirmed reboot bug in Nexus S
The Google Nexus S, manufactured by Samsung, now apparently has a bug which causes the Android to reboot randomly. Google has gone ahead and confirmed the bug which in average causes Nexus S units to randomly reboot at least once every 48 hours. There are also complaints that the handset reboots during calls.
Android Gingerbread software glitch or a Samsung manufacturing defect?
Google engineer Ry Guy, states that the search giant is "in the process of investigating with Samsung" to find the cause of the problem which they managed to reproduce in their labs. Let's hope its not an Android 2.3 Gingerbread bug as many existing Android are looking forward to the upgrade.
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Source:
http://www.gizmocrunch.com/android/4715-google-nexus-s-android-gingerbread-complaints
I hope Samsh!t are at fault just because i want to see them take the heat for something, for once!

kunjar said:
Source:
http://www.gizmocrunch.com/android/4715-google-nexus-s-android-gingerbread-complaints
I hope Samsh!t are at fault just because i want to see them take the heat for something, for once!
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Not all handsets though. We had this as a major problem for SOME users around the world on the Galaxy S. Was fixed in 2.2.
I also had this on my Motorola Milestone, but so far the Nexus S has been running for 2 or 3 weeks with not a single reboot here.

[INFO] For those still undecided - my first thoughts mini review

Unit arrived yesterday.
Initial thoughts .....
Honeycomb/Transformer is a very quick combination. everything seems very smooth. Spotted a few bugs in the OS (and a few areas of foreign wording) but these arent huge bugs.
Web browsing is great on the large screen. Rotation is slick. Took a while to get used to the new Honeycomb layout but it now seems intuitive.
The unit is solid. not noticed any screen bleed (although i do have a fine 'gap' between bezel and screen on one side but not enough for me to return it).
HDMI out looked great when connecting iPlayer to a 46 inch TV. Movies look good on the screen due to the extra width - nice widescreen view and room for any menu underneath.
Battery is very good. Trying to run it down fully after the first (8 hour) charge and it lost very little (if anything at all) overnight.
The screen is stunning - although i find it a little dark on the 'auto-brightness' setting but thats personal taste. Very clear and very crisp.
Photo viewing is very quick.
Most apps that i used on my HTC Desire work great - using the same Google ID downloaded all my apps (including paid ones) to my Asus. The web market also instantly recognised my new kit and would ask me which item i wanted to download the item to (desire or ASUS). One or two apps dont stretch to the full screen but im sure the devs will sort that soon.
Camera seemed fine. im not on the latest build (that got pulled) but ive not noticed a huge shutter delay on the rear camera. High quality video was admittedly a bit stuttery but i believe that can be fixed.
The charging cable IS a little short ....
eBooks look fantastic Even PDF format ones !!!
Music is great - the speakers are pretty loud considering their size (obviously they are never going to replace an Amp !!) and i havent spotted the balance issue that some have.
All in all im very impressed !

Thanks for the review, this should help some folks!

wilbur-force said:
The unit is solid. not noticed any screen bleed (although i do have a fine 'gap' between bezel and screen on one side but not enough for me to return it).
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Just curious, that gap, do you see the backlighting through it, like this?
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Thinking about returning mine (when the store has inventory for an exchange) because of this gap and also because of a small scratch that the bezel has.
Wondering how common this gap in screen is.

just pushed mine up to full brightness and i cant see anything like that.

wilbur-force said:
Unit arrived yesterday.
Initial thoughts .....
Honeycomb/Transformer is a very quick combination. everything seems very smooth. Spotted a few bugs in the OS (and a few areas of foreign wording) but these arent huge bugs.
Web browsing is great on the large screen. Rotation is slick. Took a while to get used to the new Honeycomb layout but it now seems intuitive.
The unit is solid. not noticed any screen bleed (although i do have a fine 'gap' between bezel and screen on one side but not enough for me to return it).
HDMI out looked great when connecting iPlayer to a 46 inch TV. Movies look good on the screen due to the extra width - nice widescreen view and room for any menu underneath.
Battery is very good. Trying to run it down fully after the first (8 hour) charge and it lost very little (if anything at all) overnight.
The screen is stunning - although i find it a little dark on the 'auto-brightness' setting but thats personal taste. Very clear and very crisp.
Photo viewing is very quick.
Most apps that i used on my HTC Desire work great - using the same Google ID downloaded all my apps (including paid ones) to my Asus. The web market also instantly recognised my new kit and would ask me which item i wanted to download the item to (desire or ASUS). One or two apps dont stretch to the full screen but im sure the devs will sort that soon.
Camera seemed fine. im not on the latest build (that got pulled) but ive not noticed a huge shutter delay on the rear camera. High quality video was admittedly a bit stuttery but i believe that can be fixed.
The charging cable IS a little short ....
eBooks look fantastic Even PDF format ones !!!
Music is great - the speakers are pretty loud considering their size (obviously they are never going to replace an Amp !!) and i havent spotted the balance issue that some have.
All in all im very impressed !
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Where did you get the HDMI out cable.
Tx
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http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=290418022489
Ebay........ under 3 quid delivered

wilbur-force said:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=290418022489
Ebay........ under 3 quid delivered
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Cheers for that one just ordered.

could you please post your opinion on sunlight/outside condition? is it usable for watching movies while lying on the balcony? thanks!

0x000 said:
could you please post your opinion on sunlight/outside condition? is it usable for watching movies while lying on the balcony? thanks!
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well its evening here so im going to struggle to test that today
id wager its going to struggle in bright sunlight same as zoom/desire/ipad etc.

wilbur-force said:
well its evening here so im going to struggle to test that today
id wager its going to struggle in bright sunlight same as zoom/desire/ipad etc.
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hehe thanks for testing whenever you find time.
i just read this review and they say it's very usable http://www.everythingabouttablets.net/2011/04/25/transformer-long-term-test-tablets-ips-screen/

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hehe thanks for testing whenever you find time.
i just read this review and they say it's very usable http://www.everythingabouttablets.net/2011/04/25/transformer-long-term-test-tablets-ips-screen/
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ill give it a go tomorrow and report back .... assuming its sunny here ....
UK weather

I've been decided. Just waiting for it to be available again and thank you for the review.
Sent from my Captivate

0x000 said:
could you please post your opinion on sunlight/outside condition? is it usable for watching movies while lying on the balcony? thanks!
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Outdoors in a shaded area like a balcony it's good. I have to turn the brightness to max, but I can see the display perfectly well. However that is a huge drain on the battery. Think this would probably only last 4 or 5 hours at maximum brightness.

curti.nogg said:
I've been decided. Just waiting for it to be available again and thank you for the review.
Sent from my Captivate
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i dont think you'll regret it ... in my opinion its a great bit of kit

Ravynmagi said:
Outdoors in a shaded area like a balcony it's good. I have to turn the brightness to max, but I can see the display perfectly well. However that is a huge drain on the battery. Think this would probably only last 4 or 5 hours at maximum brightness.
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yep..... sunny here now. whilst the screen was surprisingly good outside as soon as I tried to watch a movie I was struggling. admittedly it was quite a dark film ......

0x000 said:
could you please post your opinion on sunlight/outside condition? is it usable for watching movies while lying on the balcony? thanks!
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I live in Southern California, and it was a clear, sunny day on Saturday. I took the Transformer out on the back porch at noon, just for kicks, to see how bad it would be in the direct SoCal sun. I cranked up the brightness to maximum, and prepared to give a laugh--I've always used my Nook for reading outside because of course the e-ink screen prefers bright lights.
Imagine my surprise when I could actually see the screen, well enough to use it. And note--this was in the direct SoCal sun at noon. I could actually read ebooks on it, surf the Web, etc. It wasn't an awesome experience, but it was good enough to use in a pinch.
I was very impressed with its performance, much, much more so than I expected.

thanks for your answers regarding sunlight performance! then i only have to wait until it is available

0x000 said:
thanks for your answers regarding sunlight performance! then i only have to wait until it is available
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You may be waiting until Winter.
At least then the sun won't be as much of an issue.

The Galaxy Note Is The Most Versatile Mobile Device Ever.

Some people regard the Note as being too big to be used as a phone and too small to be used as a tablet. Of course, neither is true because the Note is the most versatile mobile device ever made. The days of having to own a small mobile phone where the screen is too small to be practicable and a tablet which is too big to carry around are over. Thank you Samsung.

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It,s probably the best thing ever done as yo it,s many functions. It,s a great smartphone light and thin with the biggest screen and amazing performance, it has an amazing battery life considering it's hugeness. It's a great ebook using aldiko, it's a fantastic media player for music, video and photos on it's own screen and on tv with hdmi. The quality of the camera is close yo the iphone 4s if not best. The video recording is simply great and of course it is better that any gps navigator you can buy since it positioning technology is the fastest i've ever seen. No doubt this phone is the gadget of the year

I do understand the critique; too large for a phone... too small for a tablet.
There is some truth to that. Let's admit it.
But... if you want a go anywhere device that does it all... The Note is for you.
I love it!

CGI_Ram said:
I do understand the critique; too large for a phone... too small for a tablet.
There is some truth to that. Let's admit it.
But... if you want a go anywhere device that does it all... The Note is for you.
I love it!
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For those critiques...
Show us a device that is big enough as a tablet and small enough to be a phone

I agree, but there is rumor the Galaxy S III will be buttonless in front and 5" which I think is just right:http://www.slashgear.com/samsung-ga...already-realistic-press-images-leak-23204379/
5.3" is slightly bit much.
One month in and still impressed with this phone. It really is the best mobile device I've ever used.
-Camera quality is excellent.
-Love using the stylus for notes and drawing/doodling.
-Bought a car mount and uses it as my main GPS since the screen is large. Due to GLONASS system, the satellite lockin is awesome, even indoor.
-Never use my Windows tablet anymore, since the Note can handle website and 720p flash contents without sweat.
-Became my sole ebook reader due to the resolution.
-This is the first phone where I felt the onscreen controller for games are actually very usable that I don't (always) need an extra bluetooth gamepad, due to the screen estate.
-Screen quality is amazing, but importantly the hardware can handle the HD MKV videos and have microSD support to store them. I am not ashamed to admit I take delight in the fact the screen quality and viewing angle literally destroy the iPhone 4S screen of peers.
-It's a long phone, my mouth does not even reach down to mic, but delighted people across the line can hear me fine and I'm not a loud mouth. (Though I am on custom rom which might improves the Phone app over stock.)
-With custom rom, it support OpenVPN which is a big deal for me.
I'm so glad I returned the Nexus for the Note. Only downside so far is no official 1700mhz support for T-Mobile , hope something can be done about it.

The size is a personal thing,for me its perfect for both as a phone and a tablet.
J had a Galaxy 10.1 it put a big stress on my arm,to use it I had to lift my arm all the time,so I gave it to my wife a Cello player.
Now with my GNote I sit for hours surfing the net without any stress since I just use my fingers to operate the entire device without lifting an arm,this is even more obvious when I play chess in long sessions,so can't be more happier with the size.

I agree. Its the best phone I have ever used. The huge screen is really an advantage in all aspects.

eksasol said:
I agree, but there is rumor the Galaxy S III will be buttonless in front and 5" which I think is just right:http://www.slashgear.com/samsung-ga...already-realistic-press-images-leak-23204379/
5.3" is slightly bit much.
One month in and still impressed with this phone. It really is the best mobile device I've ever used.
-Camera quality is excellent.
-Love using the stylus for notes and drawing/doodling.
-Bought a car mount and uses it as my main GPS since the screen is large. Due to GLONASS system, the satellite lockin is awesome, even indoor.
-Never use my Windows tablet anymore, since the Note can handle website and 720p flash contents without sweat.
-Became my sole ebook reader due to the resolution.
-This is the first phone where I felt the onscreen controller for games are actually very usable that I don't (always) need an extra bluetooth gamepad, due to the screen estate.
-Screen quality is amazing, but importantly the hardware can handle the HD MKV videos and have microSD support to store them. I am not ashamed to admit I take delight in the fact the screen quality and viewing angle literally destroy the iPhone 4S screen of peers.
-It's a long phone, my mouth does not even reach down to mic, but delighted people across the line can hear me fine and I'm not a loud mouth. (Though I am on custom rom which might improves the Phone app over stock.)
-With custom rom, it support OpenVPN which is a big deal for me.
I'm so glad I returned the Nexus for the Note. Only downside so far is no official 1700mhz support for T-Mobile , hope something can be done about it.
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Amen! I'm with you in every thing you said, except fot the VPN wich I don't know what is it lol...

eksasol said:
I agree, but there is rumor the Galaxy S III will be buttonless in front and 5" which I think is just right:http://www.slashgear.com/samsung-ga...already-realistic-press-images-leak-23204379/
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Thats fake picture and SGS3 will come as 4.65" as I guess. There are no real leaked picture of SGS 3 yet and all just guessing.
http://www.androidcentral.com/not-samsung-galaxy-s-iii?utm_source=ac&utm_medium=twitter
Another "leaked" picture:
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5,3" is good for surf/video and thats the most important I got the Note for.
S-Pen is a plus and handy if wanna write some short notes to what to buy, since I always forget something at stores, after i got home.
Tab is too big too carry along and 4,3" phone (or whatever size) is just too small for surf/video. Also carry 2 device is not funny.
The Notes 5,3" is perfect and u get 2in1 hybrid device to carry with u.

True
It replaces mobile, tab and PC to an extent. And then, it replaces pen and paper!
(and, camera, music, navigation too but that's given)

eksasol said:
I agree, but there is rumor the Galaxy S III will be buttonless in front and 5" which I think is just right:http://www.slashgear.com/samsung-ga...already-realistic-press-images-leak-23204379/
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If that phone were real, I would buy it the instant it was available, and I'd pay $1500 for it without batting an eye. That is my dream device. The only thing I'd want different is for the stylus to be stored onboard. Unfortunately, it's just a concept.

CGI_Ram said:
I do understand the critique; too large for a phone... too small for a tablet.
There is some truth to that. Let's admit it.
But... if you want a go anywhere device that does it all... The Note is for you.
I love it!
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How large is too large? When I first got the HD2 people said it was too large. This is ideal for what it does. Sammy has got it right.

romac said:
How large is too large? When I first got the HD2 people said it was too large. This is ideal for what it does. Sammy has got it right.
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For me; pocketability
I agree... Sammy got it right.
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drgopoos said:
For those critiques...
Show us a device that is big enough as a tablet and small enough to be a phone
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Ha ha ha! True.
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