http://www.pcworld.com/article/204936/samsung_fascinate_crashes_verizons_droid_party.html?tk=hp_new
Unfortunately, not all is peachy when wireless carriers and handset makers start messing with the stock Android experience. Reviews of the Fascinate by Slashgear and Engadget note that the phone uses Bing as its default search engine, not Google - probably more fallout from the cozy Bing-Verizon relationship. That wouldn't be so egregious if you could switch search widgets at will, but alas, the only way to remove Bing is by hacking the phone.
Verizon also swapped in its own Navigator app for Google's free navigation as the default for providing directions, but at least this can be changed in the phone's settings.
mdram-omnia said:
http://www.pcworld.com/article/204936/samsung_fascinate_crashes_verizons_droid_party.html?tk=hp_new
Unfortunately, not all is peachy when wireless carriers and handset makers start messing with the stock Android experience. Reviews of the Fascinate by Slashgear and Engadget note that the phone uses Bing as its default search engine, not Google - probably more fallout from the cozy Bing-Verizon relationship. That wouldn't be so egregious if you could switch search widgets at will, but alas, the only way to remove Bing is by hacking the phone.
Verizon also swapped in its own Navigator app for Google's free navigation as the default for providing directions, but at least this can be changed in the phone's settings.
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True...however i'm not worried. It has a better cpu/gpu/screen than any other android device on vzw right now. I will be rooting and using vanilla and loving it.
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True...however i'm not worried. It has a better cpu/gpu/screen than any other android device on vzw right now. I will be rooting and using vanilla and loving it.
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qft
+1 for me as well.
If you're on XDA complaining about Bing and all the other garbage that comes on the phone, you're preaching to the wrong people.
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qft
+1 for me as well.
If you're on XDA complaining about Bing and all the other garbage that comes on the phone, you're preaching to the wrong people.
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word, hahahahaha
Ok, I've been wanting a Galaxy S variant for a long time now and of the versions available in the US I like the Fascinate the most (I am CERTAINLY wating for confrimation the GPS falw is fixable though before buying). However, this Bing **** is just too much. I don't want to have to root a phone that should aready be MINE, but it's looking like I will have no choice here. Problem is....I'm a super noob and have never rooted any phone ever and don't want to brick it.
So, I need to start reading. Can someone point me to what you think is a really good comprehensive overview of the methods and implications (warranty?, future updates?, reversion to stock os if rom is modded? etc. etc. etc.) involved in rooting a phone. The more exhaustive, detailed and authoritative the source, the better. Thx guise.
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Ok, I've been wanting a Galaxy S variant for a long time now and of the versions available in the US I like the Fascinate the most (I am CERTAINLY wating for confrimation the GPS falw is fixable though before buying). However, this Bing **** is just too much. I don't want to have to root a phone that should aready be MINE, but it's looking like I will have no choice here. Problem is....I'm a super noob and have never rooted any phone ever and don't want to brick it.
So, I need to start reading. Can someone point me to what you think is a really good comprehensive overview of the methods and implications (warranty?, future updates?, reversion to stock os if rom is modded? etc. etc. etc.) involved in rooting a phone. The more exhaustive, detailed and authoritative the source, the better. Thx guise.
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The current Galaxy S variants have a one click root application. You download it, run it, your phone is now rooted. Rooting it simply opens it to do whatever the hell you want. The norm is to find a stripped ROM (also known as vanilla aka plain) and run the phone at its maximum speeds with no frills or fancy eye candy widgets.
The other spectrum is, to root the phone and do what you want, paint the walls pink, add the latest moby song as your ring tones, install custom ROM's, it's up to you.
I'm not the least bit worried about Bing, even if google is locked out of the stock phone, it probably won't be very hard to fix. It's hard to deny the fact that outside of that issue, this is Verizon's best phone (obviously up for argument, but the screen, come on).
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qft
+1 for me as well.
If you're on XDA complaining about Bing and all the other garbage that comes on the phone, you're preaching to the wrong people.
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hahaha +1. Also sig worthy.
Actually the screen is the only think keeping me from this phone. I got a chance to play with one for awhile last night and compare it w/ my D2. The quality of text on the new SAMOLED display is not good. The best way to describe it is an old dot matrix printer. My eyes were actually fatigued from trying to focus and refocus on blurry text. The D2 on the other hand was quite sharp and very easy on the eyes.
Just something to be mindful of if you're one w/ sensitive eyes or don't like fuzzy text. Other than that, it feels very solid in the hand. And I experienced zero lag at any time. Even w/ touchwiz/bing, it made my D2 look like a go-bot.
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Actually the screen is the only think keeping me from this phone. I got a chance to play with one for awhile last night and compare it w/ my D2. The quality of text on the new SAMOLED display is not good. The best way to describe it is an old dot matrix printer. My eyes were actually fatigued from trying to focus and refocus on blurry text. The D2 on the other hand was quite sharp and very easy on the eyes.
Just something to be mindful of if you're one w/ sensitive eyes or don't like fuzzy text. Other than that, it feels very solid in the hand. And I experienced zero lag at any time. Even w/ touchwiz/bing, it made my D2 look like a go-bot.
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What?
I have a droid 2, been using it for about 3 weeks. Have you actually seen an AMOLED screen before side by side next to the droid 2? Text is 1000000 times superior on the AMOLED. Images and movies even more. It even has a higher resolution even thought the AMOLED doesn't need higher res.
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Yes, I've seen one. Yes, I've put the D2 side by side w/ my Zune HD, the Captivate, Vibrant, Epic, and Fascinate. Text on the (S)AMOLED's will never be as sharp as long as the current pentile matrix is being used. It's actually not even 800x400, but 653x392 because each pixel contains only 2 subpixels alternating b,g r,g vs a typical LCD w/ r,g,b r,g,b.
It's fast, responsive, and has inky blacks, but it doesn't do white, proper color, or sharp text. Side by side, text on the D2 IS sharper than any of the Galaxies.
It works for my Zune HD because I'm only watching movies or scrolling around tracks...in black menus. There's no reading going on there. For a phone you're going to do a lot of reading on, it's just not suitable.
IMO, the iPhone 4's display is the perfect match for a phone. It's very bright and extremely clear...like reading paper...from a laser, not a dot matrix like the Galaxy. It's just too small IMO.
I like my droid 2, but couldn't disagree more. The galaxy S is king of the screen quality and by a wide margin.
I think this droid2 has a good screen, but n o different than the EVO in my opinion.
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From ZD Net ...http://www.zdnet.com/reviews/produc...scinate-verizon-wireless/34129372?tag=nl.e550.
Is it possible to put google navigator on this phone , or does one need to root . Don't want to pay $9.95/month for navigation
Yeah, this is getting out of hand. Check Phil's videos out over @ androidcentral. Some pretty nasty stuff. Even though you can get the google search widget, it reroutes through bing! Hitting the little magnifying glass pulls up bing, typing in the url box pulls up bing. And apparently gnav doesn't work...grain of salt there.
Yes, u can put google maps on there as i installed it yesterday when i played with it at the store, GMapps also comes with navigation, we are good guys
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You what i noticed on this forum (fascinate)? A lot of people ready to bash the hell out of it. I see good things in all phones. Yes the droids have bootloader locks, but they have been bypassed. Yes Samsung has GPS issues, but its probably software since they all use the same hardware. Sure the HTC phones are slow, but HTC has been supporting their phones the best.
In XDA forums, which i have been a part of since 2004, a solution to your problems will always be found. To attempt to create panic here is pointless let alone try and do it before the product is even out.
Haha, thanks for the quick reality check. You know, I did have an incredible for a short time and wnet back through some older forum posts only ti find my reason for return did not have anything to do with the text being blurry. I wonder if I could just get used to that, and the overblown colors? I must admit, im very tempted to swap my D2 with the fascinate today. I would be stuck with it tho.
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Anyone have some questions about it they'd like answered?
Is the trackpad illuminated? Trackpad isn't, but around it glows white every 30 seconds or so. On incoming calls it flashes.
How's the picture and video quality? Nothing amazing but I am not disappointed. The camera app is very responsive. Low-light pictures aren't that great and there are some obvious artifacts, but that's to be expected. Colors seem washed out in low-light, and slightly over-saturated and "blown out" in decent light. The flash is pretty bright and works well. Video is not bad at all but being a spoiled video encoder for the best video tracker on the internet, it's not as good as I'd like -- not that I expected it to be from a phone. On complex/action scenes it seems a little bitrate-starved. May be a limitation of the 3gp container or hardware -- I'm not sure.
720p Video:
Outdoors - Fairly impressed with how smooth it is. Had to cut the video short to avoid showing pooping action to the world (don't worry, entirely safe for work ).
Indoors - Same color issues as the camera, but really cannot complain. It's friggin' 720p video recording in my pocket.
How big is it? Slightly thinner than the G1. I honestly think it's a very reasonable size. It doesn't feel as thick since it's also wider. I don't see how anyone can complain about the size, but I'm also someone who's grown up using HTC QWERTY phones.
How fast is it? WOW. Of course, this is based on my use of the G1, but damn is it fast! Everything is as smooth as could be on Android. Not iPhone smooth, but it's more of an OS thing. I will report back with benchmarks after I wipe the G1 and install the latest CyanogenMod6 so it's a fair(ish) comparison.
How is the screen? Very nice. Crisp, bright, and the color is great. The screen feels a bit more plastic-ish than some other phones, but I'm not complaining. Doesn't feel cheap and isn't anything to worry about, honestly. It does attract fingerprints and smudges.
Is Swype pre-installed? Yes!
What else is pre-installed? Amazon MP3, Browser, Calculator, Calendar, Camera, Car Home, Clock, Contacts, Earth, Email, Facebook, Finance, Gallery, Gmail, Goggles, Google Search, Google Sky Map, Google Translate, Latitude, Listen, Maps, Market, Messaging, Music, My Account, My Device, My Tracks, Navigation, News and Weather, Phone, Photobucket, Places, Quick Keys, Quickoffice, Settings, Setup, Shopper, Talk, TTS Service Extended, Twitter, Voice, Voice Dialer, Voice Search, web2go, YouTube. I understand a lot of these are just basic Android apps, but that's the entire app tray. There is also Adobe Flash Player 10.1.
Is Adobe Flash installed? Yes.
How much memory? It comes with the 8gb MicroSD already installed, and reports 7.39GB free. Internal phone storage reports 1.23GB free.
How's the keyboard? Feels very nice and tactile, just the way your mother likes it. Will take me a little while to get used to after using the G1 for 2 years. Not only because it's a row shorter, but because a lot is moved relative to its location on the G1. For example: I keep pressing .com when I mean to press 'a'
How are voice actions? I honestly don't know if this is a new feature, but it is pretty darn nice. I can see it coming in handy when driving, assuming it doesn't pick up too much noise (my car isn't quiet ).
How loud is the speaker? Doesn't seem very loud. It's loud enough for most situations, but I surely wouldn't try using it in a noisy location. It sounds equally loud as the G1.
How is the signal strength? Honestly, seems about the same as my G1. I get full strength everywhere I had full strength, and have no signal in the same places (in my house, and in a huge building at work...).
How responsive? Very responsive. I've not noticed any lag no matter how many apps I have running. Pinch-zoom is always smooth. Scrolling long lists (200+ contacts, for example) is smooth. Anyone coming from a G1 will be extremely happy.
Battery life? Very good so far, but I haven't done a complete discharge cycle yet to make the meter more accurate. Compared to my G1, it's significantly better, but my G1 is 2 years old and the batteries do lose capacity. So far, I'm not worried at all. I'll report back after a couple days of use, although by then you all should have one
Is there a mystery hole (lol) for noise canceling by the speakerphone grill? I don't see any mystery hole. If the angle of light is just right, you can barely see where the sensors are to the left of the speaker grill. Maybe the earlier pictures were prototypes and the hole was for the sensors.
Can I hold the phone how I want? Heck yes. I'm sure if you do some funky death grip solely to prove you can hold it and lose some signal like some other companies like to do, that you could find a way to hold it and lose some signal. Normal use you will not have any issues and I can't find a way to hold it that would make it lose signal.
Does the LED change colors when charged? Yes, amber when charging and green when fully charged.
Does it come with a case? No. Only comes with a usb cable, headphones, and a usb wall charger.
Does the package require signature? Mine didn't. He walked to the door and handed me a padded envelope with the box in it and left.
Other notes:
- It will not update Google Goggles. Always says the update was unsuccessful.
- I don't understand the point of the "My Device" icon. It takes me to the same place as "My Account."
I think the biggest is the trackpad. Is there a light? And PS i hate u lol
Lucky you, I have a question, is there a light around the trackpad?
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Lucky you, I have a question, is there a light around the trackpad?
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That is like the biggest ? now. I would off taken today off
post some pics from camera so we can see quality also a short video in HD
Most other people will be getting there's tomorrow like me. So I'm guessing we should start making new threads for all the question. That y we won't have a million micro post
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What phone are using now?
If it's a n1 please get a side shot comparison to see the thickness difference.
I'm kicking it old school with the G1
I was one of those impatiently waiting for the preorder to start, and of course had it preordered the first day.
I will take pictures and record some HD video, indoors and out. Fortunately the weather is nice today.
xile6 - not really sure what you're saying, but if I'm understanding you right I'll be putting the questions/answers at top to find them easily. This thread will only be around for a few hours anyway, since most others will get theirs tomorrow
Jorsher said:
I'm kicking it old school with the G1
I was one of those impatiently waiting for the preorder to start, and of course had it preordered the first day.
I will take pictures and record some HD video, indoors and out. Fortunately the weather is nice today.
xile6 - not really sure what you're saying, but if I'm understanding you right I'll be putting the questions/answers at top to find them easily. This thread will only be around for a few hours anyway, since most others will get theirs tomorrow
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Yes i just made a post with from fqa
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=8372387#post8372387
Yes the track pad has a light around it. So far only one color. I have been using it for a day now. One issue is googles goggles won't update.... not really a big deal but that's one thing I've noticed. Coming from the Nexus its very similar so that's good. Size wise it is not that noticeably bigger but you can tell when you hold it. Swype comes stock. That's about all I have for now. Oh the slid mechanism feels pretty solid as well.
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what about any lag? how is the browser scrolling? pinch and zoom lag? how about flash content? i heard it is hardware accelerated for flash content... ummmm how about the stock launcher in general is it smooth? i don't know about everyone else but i'm commin from a g1 and these were big issues with me. well minus the flash we had none lol. Also how about multi-tasking? music playing browsing at the same time.. need info pleeez lol
P.S. any cool new google app programs that we don't already have in froyo that you can notice? any issues with facebook or sync?
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If it's a n1 please get a side shot comparison to see the thickness difference.
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Thanks for the heads up.
I'm gonna have to sit it out and wait until they have a demo at the local store, still looks a little to thick for me.
Browsers pretty smooth flash player is about the same as the N1 I went to a flash site and it played fine it took a bit to load but it was about the same as the N1. Launcher is silly fast tho....
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Track pad is not illuminated, and noticing right now that there isn't a notification light, the light for battery charging is on the right side of the speaker grill, but it's under the grill
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Oh and you can't uninstall the Google apps you don't use which is pretty common.
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The track pad is not illuminated but the part around the track pad is.
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The track pad is not illuminated but the part around the track pad is.
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Would you mind checking Wi-Fi strengh, how far or how many walls affect the reception.
also is anyone on the new hspa+ network. flash should come up fast on the faster network... someone needs to try out a movie lol
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also is anyone on the new hspa+ network. flash should come up fast on the faster network... someone needs to try out a movie lol
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Based on the GT-I9000 SGS for us outside the states, I've had a bash at comparing the Nexus to my Galaxy and put up the differences, improvements and disappointments to try and help anyone on the edge decide which phone is better for them:
http://technocrate.net/post/2680798304/google-nexus-s-uk-eu-review-and-galaxy-s-comparison
Conclusion / Summary:
SGS is better
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this is coming from a heavy user of both phones (me)
Nexus s: gingerbread and flash on camera
Galaxy s: fm radio, external sd card and HD recording at a higher frames per second.
Clear winner has got to be the galaxy s,
Note: missing an external sd is awful.
I Can't wait for gingerbread to hit the galaxy s
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Conclusion / Summary:
SGS is better
this is coming from a heavy user of both phones (me)
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Except Samsung make the software and... well. Samsung can't make software, a slight problem was my conclusion there. Using the Nexus for Navigation this week though has been flawless and immediate which is a treat.
chrisjcks said:
Nexus s: gingerbread and flash on camera
Galaxy s: fm radio, external sd card and HD recording at a higher frames per second.
Clear winner has got to be the galaxy s,
Note: missing an external sd is awful.
I Can't wait for gingerbread to hit the galaxy s
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Not a disagreement on the topic as it is personal but I have never, ever needed an external memory card. And the SGS is way better at video which I have actually got to post soon a proper side by side recording demo, but I really do not care. At all. An that struck me as odd..
I think not everyone needs video in HD and some people may claim they do then entirely ignore the function. I prefer battery life and call quality over 720p video. But this is a personal thing.
something that should be mentioned as well
the Samsung Nexus S DOES NOT have gorilla glass, it will break if you drop it the wrong way
the SNS has NFC (which i rather trade for a microSD support)
i ran out of space too many times already, it's really hitting a nerve
is very annoying to have to keep uninstalling stuff, to be able to try something new
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something that should be mentioned as well
the Samsung Nexus S DOES NOT have gorilla glass, it will break if you drop it the wrong way
the SNS has NFC (which i rather trade for a microSD support)
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Edited to re-include the GGlass thing, I had it in an early draft and forgot on the rewrite..
SD over NFC... I'm sort of with you, I don't use either. But the NFC has been amusing so far just to wave it over the security tags at work, it's vaguely possible something interesting will come of that and the developer community.
nailerr said:
Based on the GT-I9000 SGS for us outside the states, I've had a bash at comparing the Nexus to my Galaxy and put up the differences, improvements and disappointments to try and help anyone on the edge decide which phone is better for them:
http://technocrate.net/post/2680798304/google-nexus-s-uk-eu-review-and-galaxy-s-comparison
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Good article. Please fix the typos, namely differentiating between 'its' and 'it's' as they have completely different meanings.
matt310 said:
Good article. Please fix the typos, namely differentiating between 'its' and 'it's' as they have completely different meanings.
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Honestly, I never learnt any sort of language at school so this is mostly an amalgamation of what I have read and worked out since..
I shall certainly have a go. It's as in It Is and Its for possessive.
Ok that was at least a quick set of corrections. I fear there will be more to do in general though perhaps after sleeping some. Thanks for the pointer.
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Edited to re-include the GGlass thing, I had it in an early draft and forgot on the rewrite..
SD over NFC... I'm sort of with you, I don't use either. But the NFC has been amusing so far just to wave it over the security tags at work, it's vaguely possible something interesting will come of that and the developer community.
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Singapore is now conducting trials for NFC applications. Though right now the use is limited, but I foresee in the near future that NFC is going to find its use, perhaps even sooner than expected.
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i wouldnt get too bent out of shape regarding the sgs video recording.. i mostly use it in loud environments ie concerts and the video recording on the sgs is useless all you get is noise... anyone compare on the nexus s how recording is in loud environments.
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Singapore is now conducting trials for NFC applications. Though right now the use is limited, but I foresee in the near future that NFC is going to find its use, perhaps even sooner than expected.
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It's certainly going to see more use in some regions than others at first, outside those who have it now. Where I am it will probably remain a curiosity for the time being.
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i wouldnt get too bent out of shape regarding the sgs video recording.. i mostly use it in loud environments ie concerts and the video recording on the sgs is useless all you get is noise... anyone compare on the nexus s how recording is in loud environments.
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No but it is something I could try although it may have to be faked with my stereo.
I have some night time video and regular phone call recordings which I need to mix up and put on youtube or somewhere yet - tumblr is not too good at mixing multimedia into a text post apparently.
I am open to questions on the topic, it would help me add more in a follow up post later on. The idea is to help people make a choice, even if they decide an HTC or iPhone is best for them.
SGS video recording @ 720p is good although the audio stream is pathetic. Even when trying to shoot a video of my floorstanding speakers playing music, the audio statistics of the file generated are horrendous.
Last time i checked i got 62kbps bitrate and 32KHz sample rate. This is by no means 21st century stuff. Garbage.
Audio playback through headphones sucks majorly compared to my ipod. Makes me wonder why i chose this plastic piece of junk.
GPS is top notch, on my 6th replacement handset from orange...oh its something alright. The replacement i received this morning gives a slight pink/red tint when using the camera function, focussing on a white sheet of paper.
Should have gone for the iphone4, shoots great video with good sound, plays good sound, gps works...thats all i need. Oh and mic is clear for calls. I am by no means an Apple fanboy, i just want something that WORKS! Silly i know...
lgkahn said:
i wouldnt get too bent out of shape regarding the sgs video recording.. i mostly use it in loud environments ie concerts and the video recording on the sgs is useless all you get is noise... anyone compare on the nexus s how recording is in loud environments.
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i'll try that on the next concert or public performance i get to visit
last time i tried it on the SGS, the sound was horrible, but video was crispy clear, even during Dawn
nailerr said:
Except Samsung make the software and... well. Samsung can't make software, a slight problem was my conclusion there. Using the Nexus for Navigation this week though has been flawless and immediate which is a treat.
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This is a ridiculous statement.
Don't get me wrong. It's 100% accurate. It's just that it's ridiculous that a company the size and stature of Samsung can't get their sh!t together when it comes to software. I should have know three years ago when I bought one of their LCD picture frames. Beautiful hardware, but the CD came with a virus on it!. That being said, I'd rather have a virus on my computer than Kies...
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nailerr said:
Except Samsung make the software and... well. Samsung can't make software, a slight problem was my conclusion there. Using the Nexus for Navigation this week though has been flawless and immediate which is a treat.
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This is a ridiculous statement.
Don't get me wrong. It's 100% accurate. It's just that it's ridiculous that a company the size and stature of Samsung can't get their sh!t together when it comes to software. I should have know three years ago when I bought one of their LCD picture frames. Beautiful hardware, but the CD came with a virus on it!. That being said, I'd rather have a virus on my computer than Kies...
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LMAO!
this is so true
It is true, it is insane and it is funny. Well less funny at the price we paid but you know.
It is because of this that I suspect if 2.3 is built for SGS it is not suddenly going to work properly especially since it would seem the filesystem is a big part of the performance.
Mind you, now Google is building the OS with Hummingbird in hand perhaps it will improve slightly by default?
Google Nexus S Complaints Grow, Android Gingerbread To Blame?
Tuesday, 11 January 2011 22:24 Kayla Adams .
The highly anticipated Google Nexus S which debuted recently has all but disappeared from the headlines despite the recent row of new Android smartphones unveiled at CES 2011. However the Android 2.3 Gingerbread smartphone has jumped into the spotlight once again for negative reasons.
Google confirmed reboot bug in Nexus S
The Google Nexus S, manufactured by Samsung, now apparently has a bug which causes the Android to reboot randomly. Google has gone ahead and confirmed the bug which in average causes Nexus S units to randomly reboot at least once every 48 hours. There are also complaints that the handset reboots during calls.
Android Gingerbread software glitch or a Samsung manufacturing defect?
Google engineer Ry Guy, states that the search giant is "in the process of investigating with Samsung" to find the cause of the problem which they managed to reproduce in their labs. Let's hope its not an Android 2.3 Gingerbread bug as many existing Android are looking forward to the upgrade.
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Source:
http://www.gizmocrunch.com/android/4715-google-nexus-s-android-gingerbread-complaints
I hope Samsh!t are at fault just because i want to see them take the heat for something, for once!
kunjar said:
Source:
http://www.gizmocrunch.com/android/4715-google-nexus-s-android-gingerbread-complaints
I hope Samsh!t are at fault just because i want to see them take the heat for something, for once!
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Not all handsets though. We had this as a major problem for SOME users around the world on the Galaxy S. Was fixed in 2.2.
I also had this on my Motorola Milestone, but so far the Nexus S has been running for 2 or 3 weeks with not a single reboot here.
Hey all!
I've posted my full review of the Motorola Atrix 4G. Overall, I think it's a solid phone.
I compared it to the Samsung Captivate specifically, but also talked about HDMI-out, GPS performance, battery life, speed, etc.
Check it out:
http://briefmobile.com/motorola-atrix-4g-review
Respect !!!
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Respect !!!
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Thanks! Hope you enjoyed it. If anyone has any questions... feel free to ask away!
Nice review!
I'm really looking forward to upgrading to this phone when it launches in the UK
I'm sure I read a review a while ago that implied that, when using the multimedia dock, it was possible to wirekesslt stream media from locally networked storage. but I cannot find it now
is there any way you could test this?
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Nice review!
I'm really looking forward to upgrading to this phone when it launches in the UK
I'm sure I read a review a while ago that implied that, when using the multimedia dock, it was possible to wirekesslt stream media from locally networked storage. but I cannot find it now
is there any way you could test this?
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Unfortunately, I don't have a WiFi network to test it over (I'm connected via LAN) on video.
However, I have already tried out this feature, called DLNA, and it works seamlessly with Windows Media Player. You simply set up a shared playlist in Windows Media Player and then click on the DLNA application on your Atrix while connected to the same WiFi network as the server (computer).
It works well. My only gripe is that the Atrix cannot play back .MKV files.
@Stunno
I found a stray WiFi network to use. Obviously, my computer wasn't connected, so I can't set up a playlist to stream.
But I took a screenshot of the DLNA application. Overall, fairly easy to set up.
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I found a stray WiFi network to use. Obviously, my computer wasn't connected, so I can't set up a playlist to stream.
But I took a screenshot of the DLNA application. Overall, fairly easy to set up.
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Great stuff! Thanks for the reply, Kenneth! It's very much appreciated, any thoughts on whether it could access samba shares?
I have a TV upstairs in the bedroom, and rather than run an aerial wire to it I was going to buy something like a Revo and set up media streaming (I have a couple of TBs of DVD rips on a NAS) Then I saw the Atrix + multimedia dock and it all became so clear
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Great stuff! Thanks for the reply, Kenneth! It's very much appreciated, any thoughts on whether it could access samba shares?
I have a TV upstairs in the bedroom, and rather than run an aerial wire to it I was going to buy something like a Revo and set up media streaming (I have a couple of TBs of DVD rips on a NAS) Then I saw the Atrix + multimedia dock and it all became so clear
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Hmm. I'm not too familiar with Samba. Here's an official Motorola rundown of DLNA on the Atrix 4G:
https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/60673/p_country_code/US
Thanks again!
From the list on http://www.dlna.org/ it looks like my NAS is supported by DLNA, so, hopefully, I should be good to go!!
Now we just need Motorol;a to get their fingers out and release it over here!
Many thanks again Kenneth!
Nice review!
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Hey all!
I've posted my full review of the Motorola Atrix 4G. Overall, I think it's a solid phone.
I compared it to the Samsung Captivate specifically, but also talked about HDMI-out, GPS performance, battery life, speed, etc.
Check it out:
http://briefmobile.com/motorola-atrix-4g-review
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Many of the folks here are seeing average to below performance with the battery. But you have rated it as exceptional. Can you provide more details on your usage during those 16 hrs?
Nearly every topic you listed had negatives for the phone but you say its a solid device? Id give it 2/5 stars at best. Really disappointed.
The screen is horrible - cant even display yellow properly. Not to mention its pixelated and washed out.
Battery life is abysmal.
Really the only thing I found "good" with this phone, was the call quality.
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Nearly every topic you listed had negatives for the phone but you say its a solid device? Id give it 2/5 stars at best. Really disappointed.
The screen is horrible - cant even display yellow properly. Not to mention its pixelated and washed out.
Battery life is abysmal.
Really the only thing I found "good" with this phone, was the call quality.
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Im quite sure the color issue is software related. This phone was rushed out the door, lets not forget. I also think the camera could be optimized better through software also. This phone is just an infant. If we can get some custom roms on it the future is sky high for this phone. Right now it feels like a beta.
I read your review and while it was thorough I do have one criticism, and it can be levied against pretty much anyone who has used an AMOLED device prior to the Atrix.
Everyone falls prey to the "Ohh shiny!" problem of the AMOLED screen. Oversaturated color is NOT accurate color. It's just like in big box retailers where they crank up the contrast and backlighting to make TVs "pop". My Blu-Ray player even has a "store" mode in the settings menu that turns on different lights and displays that aren't normally running just to draw your attention. If you had it setup that way at home you'd go insane (not to mention not being able to sleep from the light in the room). Just because it's bright and shiny does not mean that it's at all representative of the real world, and the average person just doesn't understand that.
Also, the picture you used in the screen portion of your review comparing the two phones has to do much more with the different screens' viewing angles than their perceived color reproduction accuracy.
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Im quite sure the color issue is software related. This phone was rushed out the door, lets not forget. I also think the camera could be optimized better through software also. This phone is just an infant. If we can get some custom roms on it the future is sky high for this phone. Right now it feels like a beta.
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Oh it doesn't feel like a beta maybe not polished but The Nexus S with 2.3 feels like a beta or RC;-)
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Many of the folks here are seeing average to below performance with the battery. But you have rated it as exceptional. Can you provide more details on your usage during those 16 hrs?
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I usually use the device every other minute while I'm in classes or at work. I surf the net, usually visiting my blog and other tech blogs. Then I check out Analytics applications. I also watched a full episode of The Daily Show during my test... which was the biggest drain (Flash over browser). I don't know how anyone could say battery life was terrible. Battery life on this device matches my iPhone... and it's better than the battery life on any of my past Android devices.
psufan5 said:
Nearly every topic you listed had negatives for the phone but you say its a solid device? Id give it 2/5 stars at best. Really disappointed.
The screen is horrible - cant even display yellow properly. Not to mention its pixelated and washed out.
Battery life is abysmal.
Really the only thing I found "good" with this phone, was the call quality.
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It might seem like every category was negative, because I was trying to be critical of the device and point out its flaws. You must remember that all of the categories are weighted more than others. Speed and processing power is more important than the lack of video codecs... for example.
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Im quite sure the color issue is software related. This phone was rushed out the door, lets not forget. I also think the camera could be optimized better through software also. This phone is just an infant. If we can get some custom roms on it the future is sky high for this phone. Right now it feels like a beta.
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Have you used the device? You really believe it feels beta? I'm pretty shocked to hear that. This thing is incredibly fast, efficient, and sleek. I'm loving it so far.
phobos512 said:
I read your review and while it was thorough I do have one criticism, and it can be levied against pretty much anyone who has used an AMOLED device prior to the Atrix.
Everyone falls prey to the "Ohh shiny!" problem of the AMOLED screen. Oversaturated color is NOT accurate color. It's just like in big box retailers where they crank up the contrast and backlighting to make TVs "pop". My Blu-Ray player even has a "store" mode in the settings menu that turns on different lights and displays that aren't normally running just to draw your attention. If you had it setup that way at home you'd go insane (not to mention not being able to sleep from the light in the room). Just because it's bright and shiny does not mean that it's at all representative of the real world, and the average person just doesn't understand that.
Also, the picture you used in the screen portion of your review comparing the two phones has to do much more with the different screens' viewing angles than their perceived color reproduction accuracy.
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This is partly true. Over-saturated colors aren't accurate. It is also true that the angle of the picture makes the Atrix's colors look worse.
I did that angle for a reason. It was the only way that I could show how the two screens look side by side in true life. Every other time, the camera would balance the colors and the Atrix would look equal with the Captivate. The picture under the screen section is actually a very accurate view of the comparison between the two screens.
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I did that angle for a reason. It was the only way that I could show how the two screens look side by side in true life. Every other time, the camera would balance the colors and the Atrix would look equal with the Captivate. The picture under the screen section is actually a very accurate view of the comparison between the two screens.
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I understand the reason but it really provides a skewed view of the phone which is unfortunately a common problem in the media.
You must have a very sophisticated camera for it to compensate for different colors in different areas of an image. Mine (Canon Powershot S90) is only capable of adjusting white balance or hue/saturation/brightness/contrast over the whole of the image.
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I understand the reason but it really provides a skewed view of the phone which is unfortunately a common problem in the media.
You must have a very sophisticated camera for it to compensate for different colors in different areas of an image. Mine (Canon Powershot S90) is only capable of adjusting white balance or hue/saturation/brightness/contrast over the whole of the image.
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Canon Rebel T21. It's a friend's.
Not sure if it was balancing colors or if my lighting was just poor, but it wasn't communicating the major color difference when I took a straight shot.
I did include a straight shot with screens on in the gallery of pictures within the review FYI.
But, the color difference is much more dramatic in real life. Whites look more accurate on the Atrix. Other than that, blacks and ROYGBIV look way better on the Super AMOLED.
However, I would still buy this phone over the Captivate any day. The screen is still wonderful... and the resolution is useful.
Is it confirmed that the display is made of Gorilla Glass?
JD914 said:
Is it confirmed that the display is made of Gorilla Glass?
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Yes! And it works well!
Hi, I was an andorid user and when i had one i loved it too bits then came windows phone 7 and im not going to lie i loved that more, however I am due a upgrade and the sheer power of the new andorid phones overpower windows phone 7 handsets and adter watching some youtube videos web browising is faster. However I have a few questions, would you recommened it? How is the batter life with e-mail updates constant/instant and few web browsing. My old android x8 had soem lag, has this now been sorted due to the power or is it jsut andorid os?
Thanks
Here's some things to consider with the SGS2. Some of what's listed effects different users to different degrees.
- Display
There's a band on the left side that seems discolored on a gray background at 20% brightness in the dark. Some see it in everyday use, some don't. I'd venture a guess that more don't or the hue and cry would be louder. If you're anal retentive about your display, check out the 60 page thread.
- Wi-Fi
Seems wonky for some users. It may be equipment specific (EG: router) or strangeness with a particular handset. There's a couple of threads running on that.
- 2G/3G/4G
There's some connectivity issues depending on what network you're on. Make sure your location and/or carrier aren't ones people may be having issues with.
- Audio
If you're an audiophile there's a couple of threads on audio performance which, due to a number of factors, has been deemed by pros to be below that of the original Galaxy.
- Camera
There's a bunch of threads on stills and video. Read them if you're a heavy camera user. Biggest issue now is a pink spot showing up photographing white backgrounds in natural light.
- Battery
Average at best. As things currently are, plan on 10-16 hours depending on how you use the phone. There's an issue in 2.3.3. that effects dual-core phones and Samsung's issuing an update to 2.3.4. any day now which is supposed to correct it.
Based on the way I (and only I) use the phone I'm very happy and the above issues either don't bother me or don't effect me. The phone's fast, the display is beautiful, and it's a great all around device. Compare your hot buttons to those of others and if you think you're good, by all means get the phone.
Don't forget the color banding, gradients don't appear smooth but look banded like they did in the 90's with 16 bit color
godutch said:
Don't forget the color banding, gradients don't appear smooth but look banded like they did in the 90's with 16 bit color
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There's a thread on whether the phone's fully using its 24bit capabilities via the display. The theory is that when software is directly addressing the screen its fine. When drivers get involved it drops to 16bit. The same thing happened to the Nexus S and was fixed in 2.3.4. We're hoping the same thing happens.
I would just like to that all you for your comments, so far all the problems are actully scaring me lol. However with all these problems would you still reccommened this phone? If so do you like it more than your previous andorid phone?
Thanks
andoridkiller said:
I would just like to that all you for your comments, so far all the problems are actully scaring me lol. However with all these problems would you still reccommened this phone? If so do you like it more than your previous andorid phone?
Thanks
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Problems i have none of the above and suggest the ones that do are in a minority as always .
Choice is yours but remember that a forum like tis does not get may saying its brilliant by its very nature those that perceive a problem post those that dont have the problem dont post .
Plus the posters of xxx problem always manage to post multiple threads saying exactly the same .
jje
JJEgan said:
Problems i have none of the above and suggest the ones that do are in a minority as always .
Choice is yours but remember that a forum like tis does not get may saying its brilliant by its very nature those that perceive a problem post those that dont have the problem dont post .
Plus the posters of xxx problem always manage to post multiple threads saying exactly the same .
jje
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+1 nicely put
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andoridkiller said:
I would just like to that all you for your comments, so far all the problems are actully scaring me lol. However with all these problems would you still reccommened this phone? If so do you like it more than your previous andorid phone?
Thanks
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Look, if your just using it as a device that can phone, text, take pics when you need that arent for a magazine or something, play some tunes whilst you are on the bus or whatever, do some modding if you are that way inclined then buy it. If you are fussy about anything like that find something else. People will always find problems with devices like this as they are used to better maybe or compare it to a device thats is specifically for playing music or taking photos. This is a great phone, best i have had and i am well pleased. Just my opinion anyway.
Im so tired of people summing up everyones experience. I have a sgs2 from first batch and I have none of the problems youll find on the first 2-3 pages of threads. Remember like the member above me said, people with complaint threads will post before a postive thread. Complaint threads will get the most attention and see the most post. There might be less then 10 members actually having the problem if you read through the thread.
Display: gradients on screen is really only not that noticable unless your anal. Only time I see it is when I open xda app(takes ages to load on brown screen) and others are seeing it on the intro to angry birds. Not while actually playing but the intro lol. Screen is beautiful and works 99.9% correctly.
Wifi: I have no issues with connection or speed. I download lost of big files daily. Mostly mixtapes and other files usually around a 100mb+. I get connection and my 15-20mbs download no matter where im at in my house.
2g/3g/4g/ My device stays connected through 3g all day. When im actually downloading or using data it switches in 1sec to H+. Real world usage is really fast in North florida but if im playing with speedtest apps I will get mixed reviews.
Audio- I start my music at work around 9am everyday. I work with loud ass dogs and other various animals on a daily basis. Never had a problem with audio coming through my handset and I use the included headphones. At 50% I can hear my audio over barking dogs. In my vehicle with my 2 12s and 1000w amp you can hear me from a block away. Easily matches my wifes iphone4 if not better with poweramps eq.
Camera- No issues here. Just getting back from short trips to jacksonville fl, orlando, and north georgia(mostly ATL) and no pink spots on my photos.
Battery life is all user to user. I myself have the luxury of charging my phone over night unlike others on the website. I can do my heavy using from 9-6 everyday and still have 30-50% when I get home. Music is always playing through headphones(9-6) 2 emails checking hourly, check xda 1000times, browse atleast 20 websites throughout the day and other numerous stuff and can make it home after a work day. If I was anal I could get 2days out of my phone before it actually dies. Remember with android most problems are User Error.
Unless you are in love with Sense, theres no phone that can match it until the next sgs comes out.
BarryH_GEG said:
Here's some things to consider with the SGS2. Some of what's listed effects different users to different degrees.
- Display
There's a band on the left side that seems discolored on a gray background at 20% brightness in the dark. Some see it in everyday use, some don't. I'd venture a guess that more don't or the hue and cry would be louder. If you're anal retentive about your display, check out the 60 page thread.
- Wi-Fi
Seems wonky for some users. It may be equipment specific (EG: router) or strangeness with a particular handset. There's a couple of threads running on that.
- 2G/3G/4G
There's some connectivity issues depending on what network you're on. Make sure your location and/or carrier aren't ones people may be having issues with.
- Audio
If you're an audiophile there's a couple of threads on audio performance which, due to a number of factors, has been deemed by pros to be below that of the original Galaxy.
- Camera
There's a bunch of threads on stills and video. Read them if you're a heavy camera user. Biggest issue now is a pink spot showing up photographing white backgrounds in natural light.
- Battery
Average at best. As things currently are, plan on 10-16 hours depending on how you use the phone. There's an issue in 2.3.3. that effects dual-core phones and Samsung's issuing an update to 2.3.4. any day now which is supposed to correct it.
Based on the way I (and only I) use the phone I'm very happy and the above issues either don't bother me or don't effect me. The phone's fast, the display is beautiful, and it's a great all around device. Compare your hot buttons to those of others and if you think you're good, by all means get the phone.
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Display: gradients on screen is really only not that noticable unless your anal. Only time I see it is when I open xda app(takes ages to load on brown screen) and others are seeing it on the intro to angry birds. Not while actually playing but the intro lol. Screen is beautiful and works 99.9% correctly.
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If you call this "not that noticable" I give up :
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(Nexus One vs S2 @ "the Impossible Game" )
Do you think this is a normal IQ for a High End device like the S2?
As to Angry Birds 1 & Rio (and other games too) it is not only noticable in the intros my friend ... if you play them you will see !
Yeah I consider that not noticable in my book.
1st photo is a picture of the battery charging when phone is turned off if I'm correct. I don't stare at my screen when its just charging. In my real world use ill never see that long enough to annoy me.
2nd pic is when its connected to kies. When I actually use keis I'm not looking at the phone. I'm not saying its not there but the first 2 pics is not something I see daily. Im guessing the 3rd is a game but I don't play it. But the gradient is there.
I'm pretty sure I've heard its a software issue and not hardware. I find the pictures you posted funny. It shows me how hard it is to reproduce the gradients. But like I've said before I must have crap standards to accept a phone with imperfections. Can't believe I spent 700 on the best phone out to date.
To me this is a small issue that's resolved with a software update or one of the amazing devs come up with something. We don't have a ton of choices and I rather have gradients on a FEW screens vs what HTC is doing.
I understand that im a early adaptor of a device. Things may be changed/fixed in the next couple of months like nfc or something.
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So your solution is to sum up yours and assume your individual device and personal expectations trump all? All hail the king.
So i'm actually thinking about going back to an iphone 4 because of the simplicity it provides and because of ios5 releasing. Can someone give me some good info why I should stay with an android(my samsung vibrant on simply jvs rom). Are there any future developments hopefully coming for androids that are similiar to ios5 features?
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First of all, your asking for advice to stay with the Vibrant because ios5 is better? on a Android Forum?
Imma let you in on something, ios5 IS Android. They have copied the best features of what makes Android so like-able and combined them into ios5.
And second of all, you cant expect much if your on stock roms, that's the whole idea of having an Android, the openness of it and the do whatever hardware lets you to do idea.
So there are my 2cents
How about not being tied to iTunes, how about free cloud storage, how about 80% of app's on market free, how about free wifi tethering, how about not being on Att or Verizon, how about free turn by turn navigation, how about not bring just
another mindless isheep (ihostage), how about supporting a company that has a record of philanthropy (Steve jobs has no record of any charitable donations), how about being able to choose what operating system you want to use, how about the ability video chat on 3g, how about the ability to video chat with a computer that's not a Mac or a Mac, how about the ability to use Swype, how about the ability to change keyboard without voiding your warranty.
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The iPhone is for those who just want a polished looking OS that's easy to use. What you see is what you get. It doesn't offer the flexibility that android offers. I assume that since you are on this forum, that you enjoy tinkering with your phone? If you go to an iPhone you're going to be locked down. Apple wants so much control over their stuff, it makes the hassle of tweaking them not really worth it. While I think most would agree, android is no where near as polished as iOS, but makes up for it in the fact that most android phones are far more capable then the iPhone will ever be. This is due to the control issues Apple has over its products. That's my opinion, take it for what it's worth.
what made me fall in love with iphones, was bitesms, and just the smoothness of the phone. android gets complicated, but its easy to find solutions, which starts to get annoying.... I've used miui and simply honey, and simply stock, Hopefully 4.0 is good
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How about not being tied to iTunes, how about free cloud storage, how about 80% of app's on market free, how about free wifi tethering, how about not being on Att or Verizon, how about free turn by turn navigation, how about not bring just
another mindless isheep (ihostage), how about supporting a company that has a record of philanthropy (Steve jobs has no record of any charitable donations), how about being able to choose what operating system you want to use, how about the ability video chat on 3g, how about the ability to video chat with a computer that's not a Mac or a Mac, how about the ability to use Swype, how about the ability to change keyboard without voiding your warranty.
Sent from my FCC enabled 3g vibrant running Miui using xda premium
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and for a simple user like me that just uses txt/calls/web/media all those options really dont matter, but facetiming is something I must try out, because my vibrant 3g dosent have that. Other then that my vibrant lags a lot.
lee714 said:
So i'm actually thinking about going back to an iphone 4 because of the simplicity it provides and because of ios5 releasing. Can someone give me some good info why I should stay with an android(my samsung vibrant on simply jvs rom). Are there any future developments hopefully coming for androids that are similiar to ios5 features?
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why iPhone 4? why not 4s? no matter what anybody wants to say here, that phone is the best in the market so far. it has it's disadvantages though, such as a small screen. I would wait for the nexus prime if you're thinking of getting a new phone.
That's ok! The iphone is for those that want to be just like everyone else, boring. Android offers you a world of opportunity to be different. But if you must leave farewell!
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any news on the newest android release?
lee714 said:
So i'm actually thinking about going back to an iphone 4 because of the simplicity it provides and because of ios5 releasing. Can someone give me some good info why I should stay with an android(my samsung vibrant on simply jvs rom). Are there any future developments hopefully coming for androids that are similiar to ios5 features?
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There is only 1 reason :
You're a Girl or You're a Gay !!!!
well, android can do things ios will never be able to do, among many other reasons. you don't like something about android? change it. i've been very happy with my vibrant on cm7 oc'd to 1.3 or 1.4 depending on the kernel i'm running at the time (currently glitch, previously stock and bali). enough so that i'll be waiting for the nexus prime (or longer).
and i was going to say 'the community can be awesome and supportive'... but people are obviously thoroughly attempting to disprove that in this thread...
fear676 said:
That's ok! The iphone is for those that want to be just like everyone else, boring. Android offers you a world of opportunity to be different. But if you must leave farewell!
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dude android users outweigh iphone users so I think we're more the conformists rather than the other way around. i love my vibrant and what I can do with it but not every one loves to tinker with their phones like we do. none of us would be caught dead using stock software out the box, unfortunately 95% of vibrant users are probably in that position. so compare that to iphone. android is open source so the quality is not consistent on all phones. thats the pro and the con of the system. i'm not going back to ios but please dont be as dogmatic as ios users who seem to think everything apple ****s out is pure gold.
this thread is just flame bait.
If you want to go to iOS, go ahead. I like iOS too, i own a iPod.
If you want to stay with Android, go ahead. I have 2 android phones.
xriderx66 said:
this thread is just flame bait.
If you want to go to iOS, go ahead. I like iOS too, i own a iPod.
If you want to stay with Android, go ahead. I have 2 android phones.
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couldnt have said it better my self! +100 very much so flame bait!
What grinds my gears is he acts like we really care.. He could go ahead and do whatever he wants, he definetly doesnt need our permission.....
Lmao! What a tool!
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just wanted suggestions, and it sounds like we have a lot of iphone haters here, but what can I expect? I'm on a android phone forum. I just wanted to see if anyone else was in the same position, and like I asked, when will android 4.0 be out and are there any features leeked yet?
Honestly, you just seem like an average phone user. When I say that, I mean that you're not very interested in experimenting or messing around with your phone and will only use it for simple stuff such as calling, texting, web browsing, and occasional games. iPhones are extremely user friendly so yeah, I think it'll fit you better
duydosomething said:
Honestly, you just seem like an average phone user. When I say that, I mean that you're not very interested in experimenting or messing around with your phone and will only use it for simple stuff such as calling, texting, web browsing, and occasional games. iPhones are extremely user friendly so yeah, I think it'll fit you better
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thanks for a reasonable reply, ahha yeahh I notice i only text, use the phone, web browse sometimes, videos, and games. Since I'm not running a data plan. But even with a data plan, I'll be using it for finding restraunts, and just as a gps, and iphones can do that. iphones are simply easy to use, eye candy, fast, and are SIMPLEEEEEE