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Switch from Hero to Moment?

Okay so my wife's Palm Pre messed up and my upgrades don't come eligible until January. So, I bought a Moment off eBay for her. She doesn't care whether she uses that or my Hero.
I was considering using the Moment. I know of a forum like this to go to so I can mod and root the Moment. But I am not sure if it is better performance wise and battery wise than my Hero.
What do y'all think? Should I keep the Hero or hack into the Moment?
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I have both the hero and the moment and performance wise moment is better. If u go to androidmobilesupport.com they haves really good rom there called keebler and from pics of it it has a higher than stock n1 and htc desire

ubnub82 said:
I have both the hero and the moment and performance wise moment is better.
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I think you are the first Moment owner I have heard say this about ANY phone, let alone the Hero.

Its funny I got my Hero because I had my Moment replaced 4 times, before I refused another! I do agree that stock-stock comparison the Moment seems faster (maybe because of the Sense UI overhead?). The Moment's screen is much nicer as well, and I actually prefer the hardware keyboard! My Hero's battery lasts much longer than the Moment's as well... But all of that is fine and dandy until the Moment starts having CDMA lockups and "Airplane Mode" bugs. That is why my phone was swapped so many times, because Sprint knows its a problem, and came out with the Intercept to cover it.
Just google "Samsung Moment EVDO lockup" and read all about it!

stayclean said:
I think you are the first Moment owner I have heard say this about ANY phone, let alone the Hero.
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Then u probably don't know any1 that goes on sdx or ams. The moment is good and also been OC to 1.0.2 ghz tho it still isn't stable YET.

wackywrz said:
Its funny I got my Hero because I had my Moment replaced 4 times, before I refused another! I do agree that stock-stock comparison the Moment seems faster (maybe because of the Sense UI overhead?). The Moment's screen is much nicer as well, and I actually prefer the hardware keyboard! My Hero's battery lasts much longer than the Moment's as well... But all of that is fine and dandy until the Moment starts having CDMA lockups and "Airplane Mode" bugs. That is why my phone was swapped so many times, because Sprint knows its a problem, and came out with the Intercept to cover it.
Just google "Samsung Moment EVDO lockup" and read all about it!
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Ya I had the lockup but most newer Roms have a lockup fix. If they don't u can find a zip for it

wackywrz said:
Its funny I got my Hero because I had my Moment replaced 4 times, before I refused another! I do agree that stock-stock comparison the Moment seems faster (maybe because of the Sense UI overhead?). The Moment's screen is much nicer as well, and I actually prefer the hardware keyboard! My Hero's battery lasts much longer than the Moment's as well... But all of that is fine and dandy until the Moment starts having CDMA lockups and "Airplane Mode" bugs. That is why my phone was swapped so many times, because Sprint knows its a problem, and came out with the Intercept to cover it.
Just google "Samsung Moment EVDO lockup" and read all about it!
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Sense overhead plus a faster stock processor.

Since you have both phones you might as well root the moment, but I came from that and have had my hero for about a month now. There is no real fix for the lockups, the "fix" just slows the lockups down. I am happier with my hero than the moment, the hero seems do d/l faster and better music quality with pandora through the headphone jack. Either phone is good I just could not deal with a few lockups a day with my old moments (I had it replaced 5 times). Either way you go good luck.

The Samsung Moment is by far the WORST Android phone I have ever had the misfortune of having to help my parents manage. My father decided to surprise out family with Android phones, and thankfully, he got me a Hero.

the moment is a garbage phone, too many issues with it.

fixxxer2008 said:
the moment is a garbage phone, too many issues with it.
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Well, I should get the Moment tomorrow in the mail. I am going o load a custom rom on it. I will post a review of my findings.
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Well a few days ago I recieved the Moment and I swapped my phone to that and I gave my wife my Hero.
I reloaded the latest 2.1 Fresh for her because she actually likes Sense.
I fiddled around with a few roms for the Moment from other websites. Right now I am using the latest Keebler 2.1 rom and updated kernel and it runs great.
I haven't received any data lockups, the rom goes from 800-66mHz. Battery life is great and I am getting constant 9.0+ mflops on linpack and near 500's on quadrant.
So, overall I am happy witht the swap from the Hero to the Moment.
BTW, I must say that the Moment's screen is actually awesome!!!

I have an update on my Moment...
I'm still using Keebler 3.0 rom but this time I updated the opengl drivers and overclocked it to 1060mhz. I'm getting 10's for linpack and quadrant scores are around 510.
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Its a good phone I haven't had a lockup in weeks I have noobnls radioactive rom ext2 and I sometimes overclocked to 1066ghz
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Where did you go to get the rooting info and rom for the moment? My wife has one and its slow as crap and the battery only lasts about 4 hours.
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Sdx-developers is the place you wanna look for moment related materials.
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db56319 said:
Sdx-developers is the place you wanna look for moment related materials.
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I did go over there and look at it...... All I can say is THANK GOD I elected to get a Hero instead of the Moment when I was given the opportunity to get out from under the POC TP2's I had. Yes I know it was a downgrade in money and I lost out on it,but if I had half as much trouble as what some of the posters over there are saying about it after going through 5 TP2's ..I would have gone postal at the repair center..... I wish you all the luck with it and no data lock ups or home key issues..
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Most of the problems I have (had) with the moment is harrdware based problems. And samsung is the reason. I am more or less neew to this so can someone tell me a way to backup the apps and not just the save info for them? This is the 3rd one of these things I have been through in 5 months and next is hell if I don't get another actual phone. I guess I need to find a coustom rom to run so it will stablize.
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james33440 said:
I have an update on my Moment...
I'm still using Keebler 3.0 rom but this time I updated the opengl drivers and overclocked it to 1060mhz. I'm getting 10's for linpack and quadrant scores are around 510.
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wow.. my girlfriend has a moment and shes always talkin about how terrible it is. im trying to get her to trust me and let me root it and load a custom rom. if i do im gonna throw the keebler rom on it. 1060mhz, 10+ mflops?? i think i might steal her phone.

Didn't like the moment because of the slide-out keyboard

lol go att captivate!

x Samsung Galaxy S GPS + other improvements for Samsung ATT Captivate are HERE! Today - next few weeks OTA notification will be sent to customers! 11 minutes ago · via HootSuite
Thanks for the support TMO!

Hopefully tmobile announces something later today or by the end of the week, cuz it seems like our update is around the corner :fingers crossed:
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Blah man said:
Hopefully tmobile announces something later today or by the end of the week, cuz it seems like our update is around the corner :fingers crossed:
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Doubt that because the still have no information about any of the update...

Android Central comments about the Captivate updates don't sound to impressive. issues with not installing and still GPS issues after the update?

Want to know how is he GPs working after the update!!

Emama said:
Want to know how is he GPs working after the update!!
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its not only gps. The Update Suppose to Improve The Battery Life as Well.

Emama said:
Want to know how is he GPs working after the update!!
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it isnt fixing the issue from what I read. AT&T also never mentions a GPS fix.
The more and more time that goes by, the more and more I want a G2 when it comes out honestly. Sumsung really dropped the ball here and its going to leave a bad taste in a lot of people's minds for a long time...
Windows Phone 7 anyone? This phone is making me think about it also.

jz9833 said:
it isnt fixing the issue from what I read. AT&T also never mentions a GPS fix.
The more and more time that goes by, the more and more I want a G2 when it comes out honestly. Sumsung really dropped the ball here and its going to leave a bad taste in a lot of people's minds for a long time...
Windows Phone 7 anyone? This phone is making me think about it also.
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WIndows 7 phone? LOL no thank you. i ll stick with my vibrant. i think the hardware in that phone is very advanced than what is in g2. we just need software updates that will fix the bugs.

jz9833 said:
it isnt fixing the issue from what I read. AT&T also never mentions a GPS fix.
The more and more time that goes by, the more and more I want a G2 when it comes out honestly. Sumsung really dropped the ball here and its going to leave a bad taste in a lot of people's minds for a long time...
Windows Phone 7 anyone? This phone is making me think about it also.
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You know what, I think Samsung is 50 percent to Blame. The other 50 percent is T-Mobile. T-MOBILE...simply does not support their phones.
Buying the G2 will be the same damn story. Sure it will come with 2.2, but as soon as 3.0 comes along, every other carrier will have it months before T-Mobile releases it on the G2, and you will cry and complain "the more and more I want Verizon."
I honestly think the problem is T-Mobile, and not so much the handset manufacturers.

tmobile is throwing Samsung under the bus, I got this back from a message I sent to Tmobiles facebook a bit ago..
Robert,
We understand your interest on updates Samsung is working on one and as soon as we have any more information on this we will communicate it.
.. notice they say that Samsung is working on one, I did ask about 2.2 though and not the gps fix.

SamsungVibrant said:
You know what, I think Samsung is 50 percent to Blame. The other 50 percent is T-Mobile. T-MOBILE...simply does not support their phones.
Buying the G2 will be the same damn story. Sure it will come with 2.2, but as soon as 3.0 comes along, every other carrier will have it months before T-Mobile releases it on the G2, and you will cry and complain "the more and more I want Verizon."
I honestly think the problem is T-Mobile, and not so much the handset manufacturers.
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Honestly, my biggest regret was leaving at&t. I left because I wasn't interested in an iphone, I noticed no good new WM apps were coming along, and I wanted a 3.5 mm headphone jack on my phone. The nexus filled all those needs so when it was released I jumped ship to t-mobile. I found out the grass isn't always greener on the other side.
I still have no idea why people say T-Mobiles customer support is better than AT&T; from everything I've seen it isn't even close.

Someone else posted on here before about T-Mobiles BB getting upgraded to V.5 not too long ago.. they have 6 out or it's close to release. T-Mobile does lack in this "Software/Firmware" Update department. They have some decent phones but don't support them enough.
It's amazing, when the G1 came out, yes it was the first Android phone but updates rolled out pretty quick. I know it was stock "Vanilla" Android but updates were addressed in a timely manor. But now they have the My Touch, My Touch Slide and Cliq series and now the Galaxy S phone.

Wow everyone is a bunch of goddamn vultures here. Waaah I've had my phone a month and a half Samsung and T-Mobile suck I want my updates waaah. People need to realize that updates need to go through a lot of steps. If you don't like your phone return it and get a different one.
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speoples20 said:
Wow everyone is a bunch of goddamn vultures here. Waaah I've had my phone a month and a half Samsung and T-Mobile suck I want my updates waaah. People need to realize that updates need to go through a lot of steps. If you don't like your phone return it and get a different one.
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If you don't like the post why reply?

speoples20 said:
Wow everyone is a bunch of goddamn vultures here. Waaah I've had my phone a month and a half Samsung and T-Mobile suck I want my updates waaah. People need to realize that updates need to go through a lot of steps. If you don't like your phone return it and get a different one.
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So what its perfectly ok for other Galaxy S phones that haven't been out as long as the Vibrant to be getting their updates, but not us? Honestly, I really think it has to do a lot with TMO and not Sammy. Luckily, I've rooted and running a custom ROM and Voodoo fix. I also know that doing that is not for everyone though.

The Captivate came out what like 3 days after the Vibrant? Maybe tmo and Samsung are waiting to see how the update goes on the Captivate. It wont matter anyways we could get it tomorrow and people will still complain that it's not 2.2 or their phone is still not fast enough or some other bullcrap.
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speoples20 said:
Wow everyone is a bunch of goddamn vultures here. Waaah I've had my phone a month and a half Samsung and T-Mobile suck I want my updates waaah. People need to realize that updates need to go through a lot of steps. If you don't like your phone return it and get a different one.
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Your joking right? First almost 2 1/2 months. Second the others all got a update as mentioned.
All other phones with 1ghz are running froyo, even a hd2 without android has it.lom

I vote we get /b/ to start ****. Maybe then we might get some movement from T-Mo and Samsung... just me? >.>

not that it will do anything to Tmobile but I've decided that whoever gets 2.2 on the Galaxy S device first is who I will be switching to. If its Tmobile then I won't be going anywhere, but if another carrier can get it out before Tmobile see ya.
Tmobile launched this device First int he US there is no reason they should not be the first to release the OS update even if it takes them till November

I do agree that they need to support their phones better. But at least TMO isn't forcing bing down our throats either.
I come from the Blackberry side of the fence and I remember when 5.0 devices were new last year it took forever for TMO to release an update for the 9700, and that original release was filled with bugs. I finally gave up on waiting for them and simply downloaded another carrier's release. Easy to do on that platform.
I like the Vibrant for the most part. Yes it has bugs; yes it's quality needs to be improved. Yes the GPS kind of sucks. But what other high-end phone out there doesn't have issues these days? I'm sure the G2 will have them as well.

[Q] questions from a Droid user maybe coming to sprint

I currently have the Original Droid, which has been a great phone in terms of what you have been able to do to it and it's reliability. My question is; how do the owners of the Epic feel about their phone? Still happy with it? Like the roms that have come out for it? And since I haven't paid much attention to Sprint, up until now, any other phones down the line I should think about? My contract with Verizon is up in 3 months.

Yes if you like a hardware keyboard then get the Epic it's a great phone you won't be dissapointed
If you like running the latest and Greatest software then the Nexus S will be out for sprint in like a month.
If you want a powerhouse of a phone then the Evo3D should be out by June following what they did with the original Evo
This thread might give you more info
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1004091

justin8338 said:
I currently have the Original Droid, which has been a great phone in terms of what you have been able to do to it and it's reliability. My question is; how do the owners of the Epic feel about their phone? Still happy with it? Like the roms that have come out for it? And since I haven't paid much attention to Sprint, up until now, any other phones down the line I should think about? My contract with Verizon is up in 3 months.
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Evo3d or nexus 4g or any phones that are dual core that come out in the next 3 months
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If you get the epic, make sure you rigorously test the hardware keyboard within the first 30 days so you can return it if you get a phone that's physical keyboard drops keys.
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iSaint said:
Yes if you like a hardware keyboard then get the Epic it's a great phone you won't be dissapointed
If you like running the latest and Greatest software then the Nexus S will be out for sprint in like a month.
If you want a powerhouse of a phone then the Evo3D should be out by June following what they did with the original Evo
This thread might give you more info
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Thanks for the link!

I never buy phones on contract, and swapped from an iPhone to a Moto Droid in May of last year. Loved the Android platform, since I'm a programmer and super-user -- not a dumb user, the way the iPhone continued to fail.
I switched to the Epic 4G around October of that year (bought off-contract as well, ESN was clear, but ended up still being attached to an account... got scammed and ported it to Cricket myself). Love the keyboard. Love the screen. Not a bad phone at all. I wouldn't buy it on contract, though, since the new phones are coming out. But in my mind, the Epic is a definite upgrade from the Droid, albeit still not quite as flexible as the original Droid was in terms of development and ROMs (was on Sapphire with Droid -- tried pretty much all the different ROMs for Epic and they're nice, but not as nice as something mostly AOSP, i.e. CM7 or Sapphire). Waiting patiently for Epic's CM7 to be mostly stable so I can try to ROM with that -- having very high hopes for it.
So in a nutshell, yes, great phone. But, the only issue is that the phone will be outdated rather quick, though I don't think we're going to see another contender with a decent keyboard for a while with dual-core processors, etc (re: I'm guessing a year). No comment on Sprint service, but double check with reviews in your area to see how coverage, etc, is before making the jump.

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I currently have the Original Droid, which has been a great phone in terms of what you have been able to do to it and it's reliability. My question is; how do the owners of the Epic feel about their phone? Still happy with it? Like the roms that have come out for it? And since I haven't paid much attention to Sprint, up until now, any other phones down the line I should think about? My contract with Verizon is up in 3 months.
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I would stay away from this phone if I were you. The roms I've tried are all pretty good, but never perfect for me. I can tell you the current stock rom is still sub par. I would get the HTC if I you. I know people on here will tell you it's not a good of a phone, but I can tell you it works a hell of a lot better. If you really want this phone I will trade you mine + I'll give you $100 if you get the evo and trade me. I'm trying to sell mine now! my phones of on really good shape, no damage to it at all. If you're interested or anyone else, pm me! But to be honest this phone is not really worth it.
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cpcormier3 said:
I would stay away from this phone if I were you. The roms I've tried are all pretty good, but never perfect for me. I can tell you the current stock rom is still sub par. I would get the HTC if I you. I know people on here will tell you it's not a good of a phone, but I can tell you it works a hell of a lot better. If you really want this phone I will trade you mine + I'll give you $100 if you get the evo and trade me. I'm trying to sell mine now! my phones of on really good shape, no damage to it at all. If you're interested or anyone else, pm me! But to be honest this phone is not really worth it.
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DON'T LISTEN TO THIS GUY. His intelligence is showing with trying to trade you for a lesser quality phone. The evo shift does not have an amoled screen or the gpu power the epic has. This phone is amazing and will be amazing for atleast 2 years. This phone will hold up to the dual cores of this year hands down. I've been with sprint for 9 years and they keep getting better. Development could be stronger but we have gotten EVERYTHING WE NEEDED FROM OUR DEVS HERE. CM7 is in progress and there is a stable alpha.
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It's a great phone now. Got mine for the second time on friday and updated that evening ota. I also have a Evo and Evo shift and had the dual core Atrix(hype at this point imho).
The Epic is my favorite although i do prefer the keyboard on the Evo shift cause its smaller which is odd but rue
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jbadboy2007 said:
DON'T LISTEN TO THIS GUY. His intelligence is showing with trying to trade you for a lesser quality phone. The evo shift does not have an amoled screen or the gpu power the epic has. This phone is amazing and will be amazing for atleast 2 years. This phone will hold up to the dual cores of this year hands down. I've been with sprint for 9 years and they keep getting better. Development could be stronger but we have gotten EVERYTHING WE NEEDED FROM OUR DEVS HERE. CM7 is in progress and there is a stable alpha.
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Well maybe you like having to spend a million hours to get the phone to work, but for me, not really. It's almost a full time job trying to get this thing to work right! I agree the hardware is great, but not worth the fight to make it work right. I've spent hours flashing this thing since the new update and I will tell you I still have problems with this phone. If you would like me to list all the problems with my phone I would be happy to do so!
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cpcormier3 said:
Well maybe you like having to spend a million hours to get the phone to work, but for me, not really. It's almost a full time job trying to get this thing to work right! I agree the hardware is great, but not worth the fight to make it work right. I've spent hours flashing this thing since the new update and I will tell you I still have problems with this phone. If you would like me to list all the problems with my phone I would be happy to do so!
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YOU have issues, the vast majority of people are capable of flashing a ROM correctly and troubleshooting any problems they might have, don't dissuade someone from purchasing a phone they want because YOU have problems using it correctly.

I really do like my phone and the ROMs are smoke'n.
They have been having a bit of an issue releasing Froyo that doesn't have some level of suckage.
We're expecting a 3rd try this week.
What balances that are the AWESOME devs for it; they popout an updated ROM with the latest update in no time at all.
Everyone is spot on in regards to hardware keyboard, I find myself (I HAD to have a real keyboard) actually using the swype keyboard way more than the physical one. Go figure.
Some GPS issues; though each update makes it a bit better.
There is a reason that this phone is the #1 selling PDA phone.
Having all said that, in a few months there will be some really powerful stuff that will just blow the doors off anything currently available. If I were in your position. I'd go for a multi-processor phone.
Good luck

I say get an evo.
Theres a whole lot more going on with the evo development that its a much more flexible phone.
Our phone has a lot of potential, but with a fracyion of evo/droid devs its harder for the epic to get there.
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jdelano said:
What balances that are the AWESOME devs for it; they popout an updated ROM with the latest update in no time at all.
Everyone is spot on in regards to hardware keyboard, I find myself (I HAD to have a real keyboard) actually using the swype keyboard way more than the physical one. Go figure.
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Check out the hardware keyboard fix from mkasick - it's implemented in SRF 1.1.0 and its accompanying kernel, Twilight Zone 1.1.0. If you don't want to leave your current ROM, give Twilight Zone a try. The fix is an adjustable one - so you can set the value as low as you want. That should completely eliminate any issues you're having.

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YOU have issues, the vast majority of people are capable of flashing a ROM correctly and troubleshooting any problems they might have, don't dissuade someone from purchasing a phone they want because YOU have problems using it correctly.
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These forums speak for them selves. You don't see half the problems in the HTC forums. Also if you have BOTH phones you would know how many more problems there are on this phone. I would wait for the nexus s if you want a sammy. I would not choose this phone again if I had it to do over.
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cpcormier3 said:
These forums speak for them selves. You don't see half the problems in the HTC forums. Also if you have BOTH phones you would know how many more problems there are on this phone. I would wait for the nexus s if you want a sammy. I would not choose this phone again if I had it to do over.
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I do have both, and have had few issued with either, I made the choice to stick with the Epic as my daily driver because its a much nice phone hardware wise and significantly lighter. I find it difficult to believe you would have any of the issues you're having if you properly flashed it.

063_XOBX said:
I do have both, and have had few issued with either, I made the choice to stick with the Epic as my daily driver because its a much nice phone hardware wise and significantly lighter. I find it difficult to believe you would have any of the issues you're having if you properly flashed it.
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I can't even tell you how many times I've flashed this phone trying to get an optimal set up. I have found that over all I've had less problems with the stock rom, but it is still a lot more buggy than the evo. I would just give this phone to my girlfriend and take her evo, but I don't think she would know what to do if the phone went haywire on her. Hers is stock and I've had far less issues with it than this phone. The only times I had any real issues with her evo is when I tried to mess with it. Trust me man, I thought I was the one screwing up this phone, that's why I'm trying out the stock hardware! All I'm saying there are a lot more issues. Trust me I bought this phone for the same reasons as everyone else! I'm just getting sick and tired of having to Odin the damn thing everyone 3 to 4 weeks! I thought a program may have been causing it, so now I'm trying stock ROM EC and I've only rooted it. I've downloaded XDA, Poynt, Blow up, and the Chase apps. These are the only apps I have on here now, so I was hoping that it was maybe an app causing my problems. Today I had my first problem since going to my current set up. I've been talking about it in this forum, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=12464672#post12464672. I'm hoping that it's something that I just needed to reboot my phone. The only other thing I can think that made my phone go black screen is when I use the media player and play videos. I'm hoping it's not one of the apps, but I haven't been able to replicate the problem today. I'm just saying that my girl doesn't have any of these issues with the evo and right now I'm basically on the edge with this phone!!!! I also don't want to shell out a bunch more money for a phone so I just kind of have to deal with it and hope I can find a solution, but I would not recommend this phone to anyone after what I've been through! The Nexus S may be a different story since it's stock, but not this phone!

cpcormier3 said:
These forums speak for them selves. You don't see half the problems in the HTC forums. Also if you have BOTH phones you would know how many more problems there are on this phone. I would wait for the nexus s if you want a sammy. I would not choose this phone again if I had it to do over.
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I'm not gonna say that flashing isn't a complicated thing. But that's your choice and if you really want to experience amazing ui then it takes time of the individual to figure how and what they can and can not do. That's why there is 1 click root. Flashing is not meant for everyone so if you don't have the time that's cool but don't blame the phone for your short comings either in time or intelligence or pesistence.
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jbadboy2007 said:
I'm not gonna say that flashing isn't a complicated thing. But that's your choice and if you really want to experience amazing ui then it takes time of the individual to figure how and what they can and can not do. That's why there is 1 click root. Flashing is not meant for everyone so if you don't have the time that's cool but don't blame the phone for your short comings either in time or intelligence or pesistence.
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Trust me I've flashed this phone many times. I'm sorry to tell you that when you flash Roms and kernels there are still going to be some problems. I realise that you may want to flash Roms and kernels to make the phone run a certain way, otherwise there wouldn't be multiple roms or kernels to flash if everything worked perfect with one. You're showing your ignorance if you think that a flashed rom and/or kernel is going to be problem free. There's a reason why there are constant updates to the roms and kernels.
I'm just tired of doing it and you should be able to use the phone, without it crashing, without having to mess with it. I don't think it's too much to ask for the phone to not crash when it's stock. Maybe I need to go to full stock with out root. Maybe that's what's causing the phone to mess up. That's my next option!
Edit: I wish I could see other things you've bought. Just curious what type of repairs you had to do to them...
Not sure why you would expect something to NOT work correctly out of the box? You make a valid point it shouldn't work correctly stock..........

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I currently have the Original Droid, which has been a great phone in terms of what you have been able to do to it and it's reliability. My question is; how do the owners of the Epic feel about their phone? Still happy with it? Like the roms that have come out for it? And since I haven't paid much attention to Sprint, up until now, any other phones down the line I should think about? My contract with Verizon is up in 3 months.
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Whatever you do, do NOT get the Epic. Even if it's free. The keyboard TO THIS DAY does not work properly. It still misses keys and it's not layed out all that well either. I came from a g1 that had a keyboard that ACTUALLY registered keys, even if you type faster than my grandma. Please do not get the epic, get the evo shift or wait for something else on Verizon.
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I don't know if it's just me......

But this whole downgrade to being considered a "Low Activity Device" is kinda messing with me a little...
I kinda really don't like it, lol...
If there is anyone else with me, let's all email the Super Mods, and see if we can bring it back
Please,
Taylore

The sad thing is that there has been more activity in here the past month than there was before, and it then gets the downgrade

As much as I hate to agree with this, we are a low activity device. Other than the general chatter about upgrading to froyo, we have a couple of ROMs and kernels that haven't been updated in quite some time, a gingerbread theme and some Ticker tweaks. Compared to other devices that is low activity.
We would need to kick up the development to really justify getting it moved.
-weudel
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Yeah, i can see what you are talking about...
As soon as we get froyo, there is definitely going to be a lot more development, and then I guess we can try and negotiate with the super mods then.

What does it mean to be downgraded? Can we still find all the dev stuff on our favorite sure?
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It just means that we have been moved... Which in theory would be no big deal if there wasn't a handful of people who have been trying to keep this board alive and just got there efforts thwarted.... -__-

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Yeah, i can see what you are talking about...
As soon as we get froyo, there is definitely going to be a lot more development, and then I guess we can try and negotiate with the super mods then.
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That's IF we get Froyo. It's been a couple months now, and we still haven't heard legitimate evidence that they are releasing froyo for us.

I have no idea why Verizon hasn't pushed that update out. It's incredible that they could just let the Continuum people hang like that. I'm going to talk to my media relations contact (I'm a product journalist by trade) and see what they say off the record. I'm sure it will go something like this "No comment at this time".

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That's IF we get Froyo. It's been a couple months now, and we still haven't heard legitimate evidence that they are releasing froyo for us.
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You'll get Froyo it just may not come from Verizon

imnuts said:
You'll get Froyo it just may not come from Verizon
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I like the sound of this!
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imnuts said:
You'll get Froyo it just may not come from Verizon
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Kind words but I'm still not getting my hopes up. I was just starting to get comfortable with the idea I was gonna be stuck with Eclair..
I'll stay silently hopeful.

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You'll get Froyo it just may not come from Verizon
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please be serious. if there is anything i can do to help, just ask. i really do like this phone, but the lack of 2.2 is a huge deal breaker. im going to try to get a different one unless i can be assured of froyo. if you provide it, i will be a very faithful follower

I activated this phone on a verizon pp before july 7 and so far I've kept my unlmtd data but I don't get upgrades....so I might have phone for awhile which means I don't care where the froyo comes from lol
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"Legacy & Low Activity Devices", Wow.
That's low. But I guess it's the sign of the times.
I purchased my Continuum in January and I'm so fed up with samsung. RSS feeds don't work at all. Very dissappointed. I've decided not to purchase a single samsung phone/tablet product in the future. Lots of other makers that I see updates happening. 2 of my kids have Fascinates and they love them but updates are really slow coming out.
If it wasn't for you guys working on it and making it better, I would have canned the phone. Thanks for all your efforts and I hope we'll get 2.2 soon.

Start posting again! Now that we have Froyo, it's time to kick things up again.
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I've noticed this unlimited data plan loophole mentioned a few times. Does this mean that those of us who are grandfathered in with the old data plans have a way of getting out of our contracts due to this change? I activated my Continuum in March.
But now that we are seeing some Froyo action, I'm not as desperate to go in a different direction. The thought of speeding her up and de-bloating is pretty exciting. Also I love the ticker even though it's only like 10% useable for what I do. The ability to answer or ignore calls and see the time no matter what I'm doing is great. Yes I know any non-continuum phone could do the same with a pop-up window or whatever but that permanent little section of soft-controls is just so cool! Thought the real reason I like it is the unlimited possibilities for customization...which so far has been non-existent. Every day I look at that ticker and muse over it's possibilities...thinking how nice it would be if the little notifiers mapped to apps I actually use or how awesome it would be to pop some 1x1 widgets down there.... Is it irrational in Aug 2011 to still hope for things everyone dreamed of when this thing was released last November?
I held on to Palm for way too long too....Is being loyal to a gadget for what it should be a fools errand that will just leave me sad and bitter in the end?

nathanb131 said:
I've noticed this unlimited data plan loophole mentioned a few times. Does this mean that those of us who are grandfathered in with the old data plans have a way of getting out of our contracts due to this change? I activated my Continuum in March.
But now that we are seeing some Froyo action, I'm not as desperate to go in a different direction. The thought of speeding her up and de-bloating is pretty exciting. Also I love the ticker even though it's only like 10% useable for what I do. The ability to answer or ignore calls and see the time no matter what I'm doing is great. Yes I know any non-continuum phone could do the same with a pop-up window or whatever but that permanent little section of soft-controls is just so cool! Thought the real reason I like it is the unlimited possibilities for customization...which so far has been non-existent. Every day I look at that ticker and muse over it's possibilities...thinking how nice it would be if the little notifiers mapped to apps I actually use or how awesome it would be to pop some 1x1 widgets down there.... Is it irrational in Aug 2011 to still hope for things everyone dreamed of when this thing was released last November?
I held on to Palm for way too long too....Is being loyal to a gadget for what it should be a fools errand that will just leave me sad and bitter in the end?
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there is no loophole...verizon grandfathered in all smartphone users who had unlimited data (3g or 4g) for the near future (they can always change **** down the road if they want)
but for the time being u can upgrade on contract or activate new devices from 3g to 4g or 4g to 3g and keep ur same plan no restrictions (although 4g to 3g would burn ur 4g sim after 24 hours and ud need to get a new one)

Shouldnt all this activity and the Froyo Update bump us back up out of the low activity section? Just saying....
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Will you still be using this phone a year from now?

I don't see anything in the pipeline that I'd change phones for. Do you?

GNote, GNex, or GS3. Whichever has the best development and specs when my upgrade comes 1st of July. I've had this phone since 9/25/10 and I love it and will never get rid of it but I will be upgrading.
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Same here. I used the Diamond from March 2009 to October 2011, when it became too damaged to repair. Before the Epic, I was a real skeptic of hardware keyboards, but I'm a changed person now. That amazing keyboard cannot be topped by any touchscreen (even swype) in speed. I've tried several other devices with hardware keyboards hands on, but the Epic still has got to be one of the best I've ever used. I mean, Android can be navigated rather quickly with the keyboard and it's great for emulators too.
Since I'm just a student, I can't really afford brand new expensive phones or plans, so I usually buy the previous generation device used for $50, which is what I did in the case of both the Diamond and the Epic. Right now, I'm using it on the Sprint SERO $30 a month plan with unlimited data, messaging, and roaming, and I can't think of a better cellular combination. Kudos to Sprint for always getting the good version (or only version, such as the case of the Kyocera Echo) of most phones.
The Epic definetly has a lot of life left in it.
- 2 Bunny

theduce102 said:
GNote, GNex, or GS3. Whichever has the best development and specs when my upgrade comes 1st of July. I've had this phone since 9/25/10 and I love it and will never get rid of it but I will be upgrading.
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What he said exactly.... I have had my epic since launch day.... longest I have had any phone.
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Comando156 said:
What he said exactly.... I have had my epic since launch day.... longest I have had any phone.
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Same here. Will have to ditch it for the gs3 when the time comes.
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Probably not, but I mean hey, maybe I will if I don't catch on with solely touchscreen phones, they needa make a upgrade though. They have customers waiting to move to the next new gen keyboard phone off their htc Evo slide or Epic4g, maybe even the Transform or Moment lmao.
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I will still have it or I mean my gf will but still have it but come may 18th galaxy nexus is mine!!
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davidrules7778 said:
I will still have it or I mean my gf will but still have it but come may 18th galaxy nexus is mine!!
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Lol I get mine the 8th.
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kainppc6700 said:
Same here. I used the Diamond from March 2009 to October 2011, when it became too damaged to repair. Before the Epic, I was a real skeptic of hardware keyboards, but I'm a changed person now. That amazing keyboard cannot be topped by any touchscreen (even swype) in speed. I've tried several other devices with hardware keyboards hands on, but the Epic still has got to be one of the best I've ever used. I mean, Android can be navigated rather quickly with the keyboard and it's great for emulators too.
Since I'm just a student, I can't really afford brand new expensive phones or plans, so I usually buy the previous generation device used for $50, which is what I did in the case of both the Diamond and the Epic. Right now, I'm using it on the Sprint SERO $30 a month plan with unlimited data, messaging, and roaming, and I can't think of a better cellular combination. Kudos to Sprint for always getting the good version (or only version, such as the case of the Kyocera Echo) of most phones.
The Epic definetly has a lot of life left in it.
- 2 Bunny
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+$10 4G / modern device fee
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Probably Not, Love My Epic, but skipped Touch! Started out with Moment! Be first time with an android phone at a fresh start when it comes out and forum with the S3, so that's where I am headed!!!!!!!!

Ill probably wait for a slider phone with LTE. Might even hold out specificlly for samsung. The software support sucks, but they always seem to be a little easier to root and theme. The only crap they really pulled was the sneaky little file that re rewrites you boot partition with every boot to remove root. I'm even willing to bet that was sprints idea as the first thing every root user usually does is set up for free tethering.
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still waiting and hoping to see the next gen hw keyboard phone.. more than likely i'll wait till LTE hits my area then see what's available..

I've given up waiting on the Great Pumpkin Keyboard phone. It's time to move on.
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It's not so much the Epic I'm leaving behind as it is Sprint. There have been trials with the Epic- horrible GPS, slow software updates, and a modem that likes to randomly reset. However Sprints data speeds are regularly into the 10's of kbps now. Tragic. Might as well have a dumb phone if I stay with them.

I will most likely have the epic till my contract is up in march 2013...
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I can get a new phone in 8/2012. The problem is that I REALLY REALLY REALLY want a powerful keyboard phone (like the Epic was), and I don't see hints of one on the horizon.
LTE is tentatively supposed to be in the Tampa area in the summer of this year, so the timing would be perfect, but I fear that I may be SOL.

Unless it breaks on me I will most likely still be using it. The only other phone I might be interested in is the Sony Ericsson phone.

well
With the ROMs and kernels as advanced as it is nowadays coming out at a rate like this, if this keeps up I'm definitely keeping this phone for sure. Gotta see what Sammy does in a year though with the new Exynos chip and all...

There is no reason for me to switch phones right now. I have plenty of memory and I can run almost all games and apps effortlessly

Comando156 said:
What he said exactly.... I have had my epic since launch day.... longest I have had any phone.
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I had my og Instinct about 2 years and 2 months before I got the og epic
The upgrade was painful because I actually liked the phone.
But my upgrade from the og epic to the epic touch was mostly painless. It wasn't because I didn't like the epic (I really did very much) it was because the software between the gs1 and gs2 were very similar and that I almost never used the hard keyboard.
Since I like touchwiz the upgrade to the gs3 should be just as painless
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