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[Q] fastboot?

I was just wondering - I have a HD2 with MAGLDR. I see that Clockwork recovery has now been released. From my (very) novice knowledge, it seems that MAGLDR has to load to allow android to boot. Is anyone working on a bootloader to replace the (HSPL?) to allow direct booting into android from NAND without needing MAGLDR? Surely this, together with the recovery partition would make this a proper android phone similar to any other (who needs Windows support anyway?)

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Try making a paper and writing every detail and make a conclusion.
Sometimes that method works

yusufm786 said:
I was just wondering - I have a HD2 with MAGLDR. I see that Clockwork recovery has now been released. From my (very) novice knowledge, it seems that MAGLDR has to load to allow android to boot. Is anyone working on a bootloader to replace the (HSPL?) to allow direct booting into android from NAND without needing MAGLDR? Surely this, together with the recovery partition would make this a proper android phone similar to any other (who needs Windows support anyway?)
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MAGLDR is a bootloader. Without one the phone cannot load a kernel, as I understand it. So the answer is no. But, there is an Android based bootloader called CLK that is in the works. this is more the norma for Android phones. HTH
I do not know what the guy above me is talking about.
-Unc

white-energy said:
Omg.. you're lost!
Try making a paper and writing every detail and make a conclusion.
Sometimes that method works
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you actually took the time to write that?
Unconn said:
MAGLDR is a bootloader. Without one the phone cannot load a kernel, as I understand it. So the answer is no. But, there is an Android based bootloader called CLK that is in the works. this is more the norma for Android phones. HTH
I do not know what the guy above me is talking about.
-Unc
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Thanks man..

Need help phone wont turn on

My friend was trying install android on his hd2 and he clicked on haret first and he pulled the battery out of his phone and now he cant get it to turn on is there any fix for it?

check for bent battery pin

Can u access bootloader ?
If yes than u can reflash the ROM back.

How can i flash roms from the bootloader?

phone in bootloader - connect usb cable - when serial changes to usb, run your flash.

well we just had it booted by pushing the soft reset button and it booted up to winmobile and he shut it off and now he cant get it to go into the bootloader or turn on
Edit: it turned on again and also this is a unlocked running on At&t

well is he trying to run both winmo and android or making it a strictly android phone?

i dont know much about WM since im an android user but he running android off the sdcard for some reason the phone will turn on but when it shuts off it wont turn on he messed up and didnt run CLRCAD first and he ran the Herat first and it made the phone not want to boot up all the time

1st of all your friend need to decide what he wants, either windows or android.
what's the poit to start qindows and than boot into android?
he neet to flash the sys properly and not start from sd card.once the system is in flash u have stable sys,win or android.
so if he decide to go with android just go to Android NAND section.
Sandso9 said:
i dont know much about WM since im an android user but he running android off the sdcard for some reason the phone will turn on but when it shuts off it wont turn on he messed up and didnt run CLRCAD first and he ran the Herat first and it made the phone not want to boot up all the time
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What kind of answer is that.
1st of all your friend need to decide what he wants, either windows or android.
what's the poit to start qindows and than boot into android?
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Do you think the world has to be either fully android or fully win mobile? I think not. I use both and want both. And NAND is NOT fully stable either.
i dont know much about WM since im an android user but he running android off the sdcard for some reason the phone will turn on but when it shuts off it wont turn on he messed up and didnt run CLRCAD first and he ran the Herat first and it made the phone not want to boot up all the time
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Phone will turn or or it won't turn on? Which is it? Are you saying it won't boot to winmo or it won't boot to android? If you remove the sd card does the phone boot to winmo? With the phone completely off what happens when you push the button to turn on the phone? You need to better explain your issue and what is actually happening. Cramming vague info into one super long sentence does not help you.

The reason were doing it this way is because hes not very smart at messing with this kind of stuff thats how he got his phone to not turn back on for some reason. Like when it turned off he couldnt get it to turn back on we both thought it was bricked but i started looking around posted on here and we push the soft reset button on the back of the phone and now it turns on but sometimes it wont its weird

Am I the only one who don't know what the hell is going on ?

I had this when trying to run SD card builds. Every rom every winmo rom, every radio, always the same,,, 99% of the time it screwed the winmo install and had to hard reset.
tried a few times for several hours to fault find,never solved it. All hail nand!

I still don't have a clue. If you are not smart enough to install an sd build (copy and paste) I sure as hell don't know how someone is going to go through all that for NAND builds. And the whole problem just might be that the call end/power button is defective.
Whatever this way is then good luck.

just install a stock rom going into bootloader choose accordingly depending on the hd2 version euro512 or t mobile 1024 via active sync or sd card method
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=653614(for t mobile 1024)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=609477(for 512 leo)
when u finish installing either stick to windows mobile or go for nand accordingly as stated in the link or this link http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=981811
be aware of what hd2 version u have and install accordingly the hspl.
hope this helps.

Is magldr really dangerous for HD2?

Sorry for the Question but it magldr really dangerous for HD2?
I know that writing a dirty code in the Radio Rom onthefly.
I think it was a code of HTC Desire.
But what is when i go back to hspl 2.08.0000?
Then isn't possible to write a dirty code in the Radio ROM.
Or not?
It´s only an Idea.

No, it's not dangerous

But why have many users problems with magldr?
Not with clk. I dont know why.
That makes everyone insecure.

davinci2007 said:
Sorry for the Question but it magldr really dangerous for HD2?
I know that writing a dirty code in the Radio Rom onthefly.
I think it was a code of HTC Desire.
But what is when i go back to hspl 2.08.0000?
Then isn't possible to write a dirty code in the Radio ROM.
Or not?
It´s only an Idea.
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yep sure, it will burn your car
Magldr simply is an OS witch can load other OS.. it has his kernel etc etc.. So, you could unplug cable when phone is flashing magldr, it's only a "copy" of the data into NAND SD
you can't unplug cable when you're flashing ROM RADIO, and SPL, in that case phone freezes, and, i think it's definitely dead, or you can try to reput SPL files in ROM memory via htc's serial cable, sure, not with USB cable
So, Magldr is the same as Windows Mobile, you install it by using the same method, by HSPL, as you do with Windows Mobile, and, if you unplug cable when you're uploading original Windows Mobile, phone will boot in SPL, but not in WM (because you don't have files in the NAND ROM)
i hope you'll understand what's the difference between OS and SPL.. thus.. what is magldr
davinci2007 said:
But why have many users problems with magldr?
Not with clk. I dont know why.
That makes everyone insecure.
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who has problems?
the only issue in 1.13 is the charging mode, you can't charge phone when it's offiine, magldr freezes and (in 1.13 reboots, in 1.12 freeze phone), i think it happens because magldr doesen't have the right "libreries" witch can "load" the charging process, if you see, in all phones, when you plug the carging cable, phone will load something.. in nokia, phones boots and you see the charging icon in the screen, in htc phone boots and you see the led indicator, so, in chargin mode, phone's hardware is on, it's 'configuring' the right way to charge battery (that's not so simply)
other issues? i have WP7, and i didn't have problems with all WP7 rom i tryed, with android roms too, i think you could have a broken HD2, or a tmobile version (you have to upgrade the certify android tmobile version rom).. if you can't flash android or wp7 roms by magldr, i think you don't have the right driver in windows, so windows (pc) can't talk with hd2
if you have problems, write here

davinci2007 said:
But why have many users problems with magldr?
Not with clk. I dont know why.
That makes everyone insecure.
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What kind of issues u are talking about?
in most cases the user is the problem and not the software
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This is not a statement on my part but I've read about this and i am now unsure.

what exactly have you read?

Thats magldr brick hd2 because a dirty code for activated rmnet.
Dirty code from hd desire and this maybe on the fly write this in the Radio ROM.

davinci2007 said:
This is not a statement on my part but I've read about this and i am now unsure.
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maybe they have a brocken hd2, or a driver conflict in windows (pc)
if you can flash wm6.5 roms with hspl 2.08 you can load magldr. if you don't have hspl 2.08 you can't load hspl (and cooked roms)
i think users has problems, not phones

davinci2007 said:
Thats magldr brick hd2 because a dirty code for activated rmnet.
Dirty code from hd desire and this maybe on the fly write this in the Radio ROM.
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where do you read this?
i never ever heard it
i reflashed magldr for about 30 times.. no one problem.. and i'm using it by the first 1.10 version
EDIT: maybe that users downloads magldr not in this forum, and maybe someone modifies magldr.nbh files with an haked radio witch has the malware

Cotulla has open my eyes and now i see the world clearer.
He is very cool. Thanks Master Cotulla.
Maybe he write down the facts about magldr and clk.
No danger of both.
There were just rumors.

Its really dangerous!! Im serious!!! IF you flash it then you device will explode!!!!!
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Its safe

You only makes fun of me.
I only readed this. No more.
You use magldr or clk? Hmmmmm???

ive had my hd2 for nearly 18 months and was new to all this lol
i remember the days when i had android on my sd card and everytime u rebooted,it went back to windows mobile lol. then 1 day i saw on youtube a lad puttin a cyanogen mod rom on via cwm and magldr.........I WET MYSELF lol and av never looked back. yeh,i **** myself 1st time cos i to worried about brickin my phone. but all U AV TO DO is follow all the instructions EXACTLY as they say and u won't brick ur phone.your best and safest option is to search rootin hd2 on youtube,download all there files in the link and also most videos show them doin it,so follow it step by step,pausin the video as u go along(makes it easier) then ur laughin,u need any help inbox me and i'll even find u the video/person i watched and learned from,magldr is spot on,then u'll step up to cwm lol,i av cos its abit more straight forward,u just put the file on ur sd card and install via cwm,it extracts and installs for u,simple............hope this convinces u lol

I have no problem with flashing but another users have many problems and also 2-4-8 Weeks/Month after flashing. 3 reboots and.....crash...nothing more.
And now? What is the reason? No Hardreset...nothing help...Upsssss....

davinci2007 said:
Thats magldr brick hd2 because a dirty code for activated rmnet.
Dirty code from hd desire and this maybe on the fly write this in the Radio ROM.
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i also want to know where you have read this, post the site... ive not once had a problem with magldr and have used it almost since release ...

And now this....Klick.

giv it a try,then reep u rewards
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And now? Silent!
No dirty code in magldr?
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Well, yes, at some point Cotulla loaded a desire radio in the hd2. And yes, the main problem he faced is how to do it easily. At the end, he did some black magic to load part of the desire radio in current magldr to make rmnet works, but I think we won't have more than this.
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Haaaa.....Explanation please.......

davinci2007 said:
Thats magldr brick hd2 because a dirty code for activated rmnet.
Dirty code from hd desire and this maybe on the fly write this in the Radio ROM.
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Two things, I understand your awareness of the sudden influx of bad block information, but dear God man please use some contextual syntax so that people better understand you. One sentence or phrase that fully describes your thoughts in your opinion isn't necessarily the proper way to communicate clearly to other people.
Bad blocks people, OP is talking about bad blocks

How to speed up the boot of my hd2?

Hi everybody, so sorry for the silly questions I'm gonna ask but I have some doubts and I hope you can help me to find out something more...
I've followed the clear guides on this forum to install magldr and android roms on my HD2 and I've succeded in that, but I can't understand if it's possible to have the fastboot option (or hibernation, it's the same thing) on that device. I would like to turn on my phone in a couple of seconds, as it is possible on the desire HD, for example.
By now every time I turn on my phone, It has to load the magldr and after that the rom from the scratch, and it takes 1' and 20" to be ready.
After that I want to ask even if the magldr is so necessary, let me explain..In my opinion would be better to have an HSPL that can directly load android roms in .nbh format, but I don't know if it's possible...but in my opinion it would be convenient.

Both your wishes are not possible
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gigsaw said:
Hi everybody, so sorry for the silly questions I'm gonna ask but I have some doubts and I hope you can help me to find out something more...
I've followed the clear guides on this forum to install magldr and android roms on my HD2 and I've succeded in that, but I can't understand if it's possible to have the fastboot option (or hibernation, it's the same thing) on that device. I would like to turn on my phone in a couple of seconds, as it is possible on the desire HD, for example.
By now every time I turn on my phone, It has to load the magldr and after that the rom from the scratch, and it takes 1' and 20" to be ready.
After that I want to ask even if the magldr is so necessary, let me explain..In my opinion would be better to have an HSPL that can directly load android roms in .nbh format, but I don't know if it's possible...but in my opinion it would be convenient.
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You can speed up the boot time and get rid of the MAGLDR screen by flashing and using cLK rather than MAGLDR.

I heard that PPP data connection supported by clk is not stable. Is it so annoying or do you think I could try clk for daily use?

I don't use cLK, but that's purely because I'm too lazy to switch now. I guess the best way to check is to just try it out. It probably varies between networks. I've also heard that switching to HSPL3.03 increases data stability on cLK. You still need HSPL2.08 for MAGLDR though
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can i get into recovery without vol. buttens?

my volume buttens doesnt work at all, i accedently tare them apart when i replaced the digitizer screan.
the phone is still on WM
so in order to flash android i will have to navigate to rd recovery, and then to flash the touch recovey (that is challenge by it self)
so... any one can help me?

How do you have recovery AND WM ? Don't you need MAGLDR or cLK for a recovery? And you can't have those with wm?
in cLK, hold the "Home Button" .. in MAGLDR, I don't think it's possible. (Or is it?)

if i understand the question, the OP is running WM on the hd2, which has defective volume buttons.
because it does not yet have magldr or clk, booting the phone into BOOTLOADER will be necessary to get things going. the preferred way of entering into BOOTLOADER involves powering on the device with volume down pressed.
however, if i remember correctly, starting the CustomRUU on your pc while usb is connected to phone and the phone is fully booted into WM will do the following:
1. reboot into BOOTLOADER
2. flash the contents of the CustomRUU
if i am remembering my hd2 basics correctly, i guess you could flash CLK+TouchRecovery using the package in the first post of this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1769081
i think that package contains ONLY the contents to be flashed, so you will need the rest of the files of CustomRUU beforehand (the EXE file, etc, etc).
you don't mention if your device has HSPL or not. i seem to have forgotten the steps for installing HSPL but if ANY step REQUIRES (no alternative) booting into BOOTLOADER manually, then you will be stuck with no way forward!
also, i think once you get CLK+TouchRecovery+Android flashed to your NAND, then i think CustomRUU won't work with regards to Point 1 (mentioned above). so you might have trouble executing most use cases of HD2 Toolkit.
finally, i think the partitioning steps using CLK+TouchRecovery will REQUIRE use of the volume keys, because partitioning is done inside CLK using the CLK menus which work with volume keys only! so you might be limited to android ROMs that fit into the DEFAULT CLK partitioning! :crying:
get the buttons fixed and you and i won't have to wrack our brains so much! good luck!

ASCIIker said:
starting the CustomRUU on your pc while usb is connected to phone and the phone is fully booted into WM will do the following:
1. reboot into BOOTLOADER
2. flash the contents of the CustomRUU
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@OP, be REALLY careful before you dive straight in, because unless its a winmo rom or a radio, doing this will mean there is NO way for you to get into bootloader, since there wont be any winmo installed any more.
So, there probably is a way to do it and end up with a successful install, but you have to be REALLY sure of the steps, and do it all in one go, , you wont get a second chance.
if the phone isnt on 3.14 winmo, or a tmous, then the first thing you need to do is switch radio before you lose winmo, since it must be flashed from bootloader, meaning you need to get into bootloader at least twice. Do 2.08.hspl first, then the radio, and only then consider removing winmo.
I say again, be really carefull and absolutely sure of what steps you take.

samsamuel said:
@OP, be REALLY careful before you dive straight in, because unless its a winmo rom or a radio, doing this will mean there is NO way for you to get into bootloader, since there wont be any winmo installed any more.
So, there probably is a way to do it and end up with a successful install, but you have to be REALLY sure of the steps, and do it all in one go, , you wont get a second chance.
if the phone isnt on 3.14 winmo, or a tmous, then the first thing you need to do is switch radio before you lose winmo, since it must be flashed from bootloader, meaning you need to get into bootloader at least twice. Do 2.08.hspl first, then the radio, and only then consider removing winmo.
I say again, be really carefull and absolutely sure of what steps you take.
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TOTALLY agreed! i tried to write my post to highlight all the numerous possible pitfalls, but i might have made it sound like a series of easy steps. things quite often DO go wrong, and i will also reiterate that you just might get stuck due to a minor mistake.
i guess what we are all trying to tell the OP is it is better to be safe than sorry. you presently have a working hd2 (with WM) and it is indeed too risky to proceed to switching to android with dead volume buttons. so better to get them fixed first and then you won't have to worry about laying down a plan that could be as complex as a long term chess game!

Sorry for misguiding you guygs. The phone already have HSPL and maglr 1.13 and even runing andrdoid.
From that point, how can i flash the touch recovery?

This is my brother phone so i just saw the device, he cant tell the difrance between wm and android lol
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havlaz said:
This is my brother phone so i just saw the device, he cant tell the difrance between wm and android lol
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I would recommend that u dont flash the stock rom again until u know how many bad blocks u have. I have 5 bad blocks, I regret changing my partion sizes ( windows mobile and windows phone os change size during installation) Just tell him that is can get messed up and just search on youtube for videos of hd2 with wm.