Is it just me, or were there absolutely no devices with NFC at CES? I thought if the idea is to integrate this technology into our lives, we should be including this into as many devices as possible. Anyone know where the NFC is?
In my Nexus S in all seriousness though, stand-alone devices are few and far between, maybe it's a bit too early in NFC's lifecycle? That being said, here in Australia our public transport cards use NFC and so does MasterCard (according to Wikipedia), so it is in use. I'm hoping once the NFC capabilities of the Nexus S are unlocked, I will be able to replace my SmartRider (public transport card) with my phone
NXP (the chipset provider for nexus s nfc) had nfc demos in our suite at the Wynn. We used the nexus s and mifare tags, business cards, etc.
The major nfc show though is Cartes in France. I was there last month. Nfc demos there were amazing. Check it out.
I ran into this video. NFC via micro sd slot:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JbK6n_l1m5U
There are micro SD, similar card, cases, and other ways to implement nfc, but embedded with embedded secure element is the best.
Sorry to be a Noob but would this NFC technology be the same stuff found in new debit and credit cards (PayPass) as you tap your card on something and it makes a transaction for up to £10
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Sorry to be a Noob but would this NFC technology be the same stuff found in new debit and credit cards (PayPass) as you tap your card on something and it makes a transaction for up to £10
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Nope different tech, that technology is RFID
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Nope different tech, that technology is RFID
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Actually it depends.
Blink which is in a lot of credit cards/debit cards (Including my Chase credit card and debit/check card) uses NFC. (My Nexus One "detects" it). Also newer Passports and Passport Cards have NFC.
http://www.chaseblink.com/faq.asp
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Sorry to be a Noob but would this NFC technology be the same stuff found in new debit and credit cards (PayPass) as you tap your card on something and it makes a transaction for up to £10
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I know the MasterCard PayPass thing here in Oz uses NFC, so quite possibly yes
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NFC is a subset of RFID (modified to only operate at close distances). They are not independent technologies.
NFC readers can read RFID tags.
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I ran into this video. NFC via micro sd slot:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JbK6n_l1m5U
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That's actually pretty slick as long as you retain a good amount of usable memory on the card as well.
I was thinking the same thing but the Nexus S just introduced this technology very recently. The phones at CES couldn't have had time to invest in something that quick which is the same reason for no gingerbread installed phones. We will probably see that in Q3/Q4. I am more excited to see companies using this but I am some what afraid it will be a very slow start. Probably slower then USB 3.0 which I was hoping phones would use this year but who knows.
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Here is the demo you asked about. this is from our NXP booth.
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... Probably slower then USB 3.0 which I was hoping phones would use this year but who knows. ...
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While NFC can be very useful on cell phones, I don't see USB 3.0 being implemented soon. There is hardly any benefit for phones from USB 3.0 and the connector is huge (I have not seen micro USB 3.0 yet).
But I do hope that NFC takes hold -- there is a good chance that Apple will bring it to the next gen iPhone and then the market will take off.
NFC (as far as the US is concerned, anyway) still seems pretty limited in scope, and what few meaningful applications I can think of mainly involve write ability (right now I believe Android only supports read). If the technology continues to spread and companies use it in such a way as to allow any device with the proper credentials to fully utilize it, I see NFC becoming extremely useful (think of your phone replacing contactless credit cards, transit passes, passports, et cetera). For now, though, it seems like a novelty at best. I don't imagine it will become relevant until the technology's market penetration increases and Android's support of it fleshes out. In the meantime, I think manufacturers are rightly focusing on more poignant features.
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Hi guys - I've been waiting on the Magic to arrive for quite to aus and now that its about to I've just read about being unable to install apps to the SD card. I note that its possible with some hacks but I imagine this might be a pain in the ass.
So: Am I likely to run into problems with the 512meg internal storage? Would it be wiser that I wait for something with more internal storage (I7500 for instance)? I imagine it could be messy if I wanted to install a local encyclopedia for instance or, more likely, large medical resources, one of which for WinMo is over a gig.
Also a little worried about all this variation between included and available apps between carriers. How easy is it to switch to the original HTC build? Does that break the marketplace?
Thanks!
Yea this is to stop piracy I think.
I reckon they will make some changes in the future to allow us to install programs onto the SD card but not the whole thing so this way people cant just copy it from the SD and have a functioning version of the app. The G2 has 512mb internal as apposed to the g1 with 128mb (i think). This is a lot more but still not enough IMO. I think they should have bumped it up to 2gb or at least 1gb considering it will be the only place we can install applications (well at least for now).
I plan to get this phone anyway and hope that the 512mb manages to be enough for most stuff. And if its not I'll just prey for Google to make some changes.
From my reading it looks like apps-on-sd support is still quite a way down on google's agenda, which is unfortunate. Because of this I was considering waiting for the Samsung Galaxy which has an 8 gig harddrive but then was put off by the 128mb ram it has. We have such an odd constellation of design decisions being made. Wish there was more info available on aussie release dates on the "18 to 20" android phones google expects to be released this year.
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From my reading it looks like apps-on-sd support is still quite a way down on google's agenda, which is unfortunate. Because of this I was considering waiting for the Samsung Galaxy which has an 8 gig harddrive but then was put off by the 128mb ram it has. We have such an odd constellation of design decisions being made. Wish there was more info available on aussie release dates on the "18 to 20" android phones google expects to be released this year.
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We're already half way through the year and only about 3 have come out so that means they got over 20 left for the rest of the year lol. I really don't know whether to just get the Magic now.
Yeah I'm really torn too - the decision between a crippled vodafone edition and 3 plan which won't include roaming is a difficult choice. I might just have to wait.. I want it so much too though! bah.
Well - the HTC Hero and Lancaster are rumored to be getting announced soon at an upcoming HTC event in the UK - though I doubt we'll find out any information about Aussie releases there.
Most of these programs are really small, like less than 1MB, at least what I've seen, so there should be room for lots of apps. I haven't installed to many myself at the moment because I have found anything I want yet. But don't some apps use data? For example, if you were to download an encyclopedia, its just basically a shortcut to quickly look up something using data? I think that's how an app on this device should be since I have 6GB worth of data. I understand it might be an inconvience for some people who go out of the country and would have to pay crazy roaming charges. I live in Canada btw. Correct me if I am wrong about the apps using data.
unfortunately, coverage and the amount of data that you get in australia is not as great.... we need offline program support....
The is unfortunate, I just downloaded quickpedia onto my phone which is onyl 181kb, but like I said, it uses data to search your requests. Not sure if there are any apps that does not use data from the andriod market.
Maybe the whole deal with the limited memory is related to Google (and as a consequence Android) being net-centric, meaning they want apps to download their data from the net as much as possible.
An ideal Android app (think Google Maps) would be not much more than a user-interface and a tiny application layer that ferries data to and from the net, like the ideal Google app (think Gmail) is just a Webpage (with all the javascript stuff in it) in a browser window that ferries data to and from Google.
Yeah the web-centricism is great and mitigates the problem somewhat - I suppose the real trouble is that the carriers offering the Magic in australia are 3 and Vodafone - Voda obviously has the crippled version so I want the HTC version released by 3.. but the 3 network is kind of weak and often roams on Telstra where the rates are higher. That would be fine if it was included in the cap and just eat through the credit faster but roaming charges are on top of the cap. So if I pay $99, whenever I jump on roaming it'll all be additional. This would be incredible frustrating. Hmm.. I think I'll wait till July and wait for feedback and news on other handsets. Although I imagine it'd be mitigated by putting big E-books in the SD...
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Yeah the web-centricism is great and mitigates the problem somewhat - I suppose the real trouble is that the carriers offering the Magic in australia are 3 and Vodafone - Voda obviously has the crippled version so I want the HTC version released by 3.. but the 3 network is kind of weak and often roams on Telstra where the rates are higher. That would be fine if it was included in the cap and just eat through the credit faster but roaming charges are on top of the cap. So if I pay $99, whenever I jump on roaming it'll all be additional. This would be incredible frustrating. Hmm.. I think I'll wait till July and wait for feedback and news on other handsets. Although I imagine it'd be mitigated by putting big E-books in the SD...
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I'm in the same boat as you, 3 are being dogs about roaming. And where I live is a roaming area.
Anything about 3 offering it outright? Then I can chunk in my Telstra SIM...
I'm glad you all see my reply in a positive light, actually I meant it to have a slightly sarcastic undertone (hail the Google Empire and such ).
If implemented well, having limited memory but good performance networking would be a good compromise as far as consumer price (fewer and cheaper electronics parts), battery life (less memory = less power drain) and sync advantages (centralized storage in a datacenter: access and sync anywhere, Web access, enterprise-class backup strategy, etc.).
Now if only the carriers would start lowering their data rates...
Maybe by caching app data like Google Maps, Wikipedia, popular websites and such on their own servers instead of sucking it down a large pipe, carriers could lower rates for accessing stuff like that.
Imagine having a very cheap, multi-Terabyte harddrive in your phone to store your encyclopedias, dictionaries etc. (with no need to manually sync or back it up to mountains of DVD's or other harddrives everytime), while still having your really private stuff on SD card.
(whoa, I'm starting to sound like a Google rep )
hah I wish I could get 512 megs... the G1 only has 96 megs of internal memory, talk about being cramped, with 512 you'll have excessive amounts of storage and you can just run apps2sd since it's android
Sounds like paradise miki. Don't worry, I'm obsessed with cloud computing too. My entire life lives in Zoho.com (awesome web-app suite), gmail and rememberthemilk. haha yesterday I went to bed thinking that I'll wait till something comes on another carrier.. then woke up this morning thinking I'll just bite the bullet and buy it on 3
Damn the sex appeal of this phone. I know a lot of people love the I7500 Galaxy but I really don't.. and it has less ram too (128)..
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Sounds like paradise miki. Don't worry, I'm obsessed with cloud computing too. My entire life lives in Zoho.com (awesome web-app suite), gmail and rememberthemilk. haha yesterday I went to bed thinking that I'll wait till something comes on another carrier.. then woke up this morning thinking I'll just bite the bullet and buy it on 3
Damn the sex appeal of this phone. I know a lot of people love the I7500 Galaxy but I really don't.. and it has less ram too (128)..
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Agreed, mine is black absolutely love it. Pure sex
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I'm glad you all see my reply in a positive light, actually I meant it to have a slightly sarcastic undertone (hail the Google Empire and such ).
If implemented well, having limited memory but good performance networking would be a good compromise as far as consumer price (fewer and cheaper electronics parts), battery life (less memory = less power drain) and sync advantages (centralized storage in a datacenter: access and sync anywhere, Web access, enterprise-class backup strategy, etc.).
Now if only the carriers would start lowering their data rates...
Maybe by caching app data like Google Maps, Wikipedia, popular websites and such on their own servers instead of sucking it down a large pipe, carriers could lower rates for accessing stuff like that.
Imagine having a very cheap, multi-Terabyte harddrive in your phone to store your encyclopedias, dictionaries etc. (with no need to manually sync or back it up to mountains of DVD's or other harddrives everytime), while still having your really private stuff on SD card.
(whoa, I'm starting to sound like a Google rep )
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That does sound pretty sweet but I think I would still prefer to have the ability to have certain things like my apps saved onto my phone. But then again, as long as it would be error free and fast to download the data I wouldn't mind so much.
Yeah, there are a couple of things I'd definitely want to access locally and one of them is a solid GPS program. Data-centricism is all well and good but if you're travelling (both in rural Australia and overseas), roaming charges would be too high to make web-based GPS navigation feasible. Similarly with a translation app.
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Yeah, there are a couple of things I'd definitely want to access locally and one of them is a solid GPS program. Data-centricism is all well and good but if you're travelling (both in rural Australia and overseas), roaming charges would be too high to make web-based GPS navigation feasible. Similarly with a translation app.
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I agree a data free GPS program definitely interests me. Problem is who is gonna develop one knowing that Android wont run(natively) Apps from SD??
You never know.. TomTom just released a version for the iPhone I believe (granted it took them a hell of a long time to get to it).. and some of the WinMo mapping software are comparatively small - destinator is ~80megs with Aussie maps which isn't tooooooo bad to fit on the Magic.
Fingers crossed
What is the diff between the voda and 3? I mean I'm with Voda, so wat u mean 'crippled'.. I'm thinking on getting this by june 30 to get the 3mths free access..
I had very high expectation to buy it until I realize NS doesn't have memory card support. I have to think twice before buying it (I have two 32GB microSD in both nexus one and MT4 and I have used 23-25GB).
If it had 32GB storage, it's OK, but 16GB isn't enough for me.
well for you yeah i'd say you should skip it.
For me, i'm only using 3.5GB of an 8GB card. Assuming the NS is setup like the GS phones it'll have 2GB for apps, and about 13GB for storage.
So for me, thats good enough... but i sure would like to have the 8GB card as well for a total of 24.
Now i doubt i'd ever use that but it would be nice. I keep thinking i'm going to use my phone for lots of music and movies, but it just dosn't really happen.
However, with apps like hulu plus and netflix coming in 2011, and current apps like last.fm and pandora you can pretty much stream everything, and for video probaby better quality than what clonedvdmobile will do.
So for me, it was a deal breaker, but i'm kinda okay with it now. still want to play around with the phone first before i decide anything.
If everything else ends up PERFECT, then it won't be a dealbreaker. Otherwise, it'll be yet another straw that broke the camel's back.
Everything in the NS will have to function just right. The battery life, heat, antenna performance,GPS, etc. all must function without any glitch at all.
The limited storage isn't a dealbreaker for me... I'm surviving fine now with my N1 and an 8GB card.
Lack of HSPA+ though, I'm not so sure.
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The limited storage isn't a dealbreaker for me... I'm surviving fine now with my N1 and an 8GB card.
Lack of HSPA+ though, I'm not so sure.
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My thoughts exactly.
Not sure if I'm gonna buy it, but lack SD-card won't be a big deal. 16gb is more than enough for me
I'm currently using 0.5GB of my 4GB card. I could put my entire MP3 collection of 2175 songs on the Nexus S with plenty of room to spare.
Would be nice to have a card slot, but I don't need to have it.
I'm totally getting one, and probably before they are officially for sale in my country.
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My thoughts exactly.
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not only lack of 3g+ but they removed bt3.0 as well
with bt3.0 3g+ and a mem card it would have been the perfect power phone. nothing exceptional or ground breaking, just a very well rounded package. Right now its just another alternative to the galaxy or droid 2.
The absence of a LED notification is fr sure a deal breaker...
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My thoughts exactly.
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The limited storage isn't a dealbreaker for me... I'm surviving fine now with my N1 and an 8GB card.
Lack of HSPA+ though, I'm not so sure.
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It still supports up to 7.2Mb/s down. Granted thats only a third of what T-Mobiles HSPA+ will be able to do, but it sure as hell isn't bad.
I've been doing just fine on 2Mb/s down on my nexus one, and 3Mb/s over wi-fi at my school and home so honestly i'd be good with the 7.
Though i'm not gonna lie, full HSPA+ would of been nice though.
no. all i have in my N1 is a 16GB card..
Not even close to a deal breaker.
Also if you guys want a led notification down NoLed in the market. Really nice app that takes advantage of the unreal SAMOLED display.
7.2 HSPA for the Nexus is good enough. I bet you guys are all near wifi most of the time anyway.
I use up a 16gb card on my hero so I'd love to be able to make use of the all the 16gb on the phone or be able to add my own card.
Its not a huge deal breaker because I'm coming from a hero and I want something faster. But I'm secretly hoping that there will be an sd card slot like those in the winmo 7 phones.
Perhaps Google is putting more emphasis on cloud storage.
Anyways I should have a Nexus S by Wednesday of next week.
What about when custom ROMs come out, and wiping & flashing are a part of our daily lives?!
No, it will NOT!
The biggest deal breaker for me is the price. The Nexus S is $529 while the MyTouch 4G is $450. After taxes the Nexus S ends up being about $87 more. I don't know if thats worth it... Oh and the lack of an LED notification sucks too. =/
Something you should know about the "available storage". It claims 16GB, but you have to expect around 4-5GB will be used for system, image, and applications.
I think some may know "storage gate" happened on G2 (claimed 4GB, but actually 1.5GB is available for applications), so make sure you check the available storage for applications and user.
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Something you should know about the "available storage". It claims 16GB, but you have to expect around 4-5GB will be used for system, image, and applications.
I think some may know "storage gate" happened on G2 (claimed 4GB, but actually 1.5GB is available for applications), so make sure you check the available storage for applications and user.
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assuming it's done like the Galaxy S Phones. 2GB for apps, 13GB for storage (SD card)
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The biggest deal breaker for me is the price. The Nexus S is $529 while the MyTouch 4G is $450. After taxes the Nexus S ends up being about $87 more. I don't know if thats worth it... Oh and the lack of an LED notification sucks too. =/
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The price is far greater when you consider the lack of HSPA+ support (especially when thinking about the Nexus S going into the year 2011...), the lack of a dual-core (again, in respect to where phones are headed in 2011 - as early as Jan/Feb.), the downgrades of the HD video recording, bluetooth, and the aforementioned lack of expandable SD card slot. Suddenly, you're not just forking over money. You're giving up a lot more.
Related: Is NFC just a glorified bar code scanner? NFC in Gingerbread is Crippled!
It seems more and more like you're essentially paying these prices for direct and clean Google updates. To some, this may be worth it.
I'm not sure if Google/Sammy should get away with what I belief was a rushed Nexus branded product.
Sucks hearing oh we don't know when we will do your promised 4g upgrade because we can't get tegra 2 working, but you hear that another tegra 2 tab is coming out right around the corner with 4g just fine. I will definitely be inquiring my verizon rep about what exchange or compensation they can do for this for their customers that paid for a contract with that promise of the first 4g tablet only to be left waiting with no answers.
Anyone else thinking about this?
im not sure I would want the galaxy 10.1 but I would like to see if I can get compensated some how props with the idea
Yeah, the Tab 10.2 may be a ****ty tablet but it will be a ****ty tablet with LTE.
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But galaxy tab won't launch with LTE, it will be available for pre-order without an ETA. For all we know it can be weeks or even months.
Read the press release, launch with LTE day one, as far as the worse tab comment, its tegra 2 like xoom, with better battery life and thinner and lighter, so no clue how it's "worse" in your mind.
Hope it kicks moto's ass to get it upgraded already
anyone want to buy a 4-month old 3G xoom from me? Come on already moto. Id return my xoom in a second if I could. What would I be giving up? I honestly don't know anymore. I remember a few months ago maybe it was a actual usb port (which I never use and I'm sure there'll be at least a proprietary connector) and sd card (which I don't have anyway). Am I missing something?
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I don't care about 4G LTE until they give us contract-less pay as you go data plans like they have for the iPad.
They already gave us a contract-less pay as you go plan like the ipad - if you buy off contract, the xoom costs the same as the ipad2 - a contract will give you $200 off the purchase price but it wasn't required.
$200 off is great if you were going to pay for the $20 a month anyway...
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They already gave us a contract-less pay as you go plan like the ipad - if you buy off contract, the xoom costs the same as the ipad2 - a contract will give you $200 off the purchase price but it wasn't required.
$200 off is great if you were going to pay for the $20 a month anyway...
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The activation fees are exactly the same as the iPad now? I thought the iPad could be activated/deactivated whenever for no fee, but the Xoom temporarily had no activation fee when you bought it, but an activation fee if you turned the service on/off/on.
i definitely agree. If nothing else Moto/Verizon should be forced to hear the criticism of people who have been given the run around by them. If a company can somehow believe that dicking people around will actually effect their sales they suddenly care about what people have to say. The fact that both the SD card and LTE have been completely ignored (other than to misleadingly boost initial sales), without any official eta or explanation AND that meanwhile other devices may be rolling out that provide these features, means that xoom owners are going to be at a disadvantage for believing in verizon and Motos empty sales propaganda.
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i definitely agree. If nothing else Moto/Verizon should be forced to hear the criticism of people who have been given the run around by them. If a company can somehow believe that dicking people around will actually effect their sales they suddenly care about what people have to say. The fact that both the SD card and LTE have been completely ignored (other than to misleadingly boost initial sales), without any official eta or explanation AND that meanwhile other devices may be rolling out that provide these features, means that xoom owners are going to be at a disadvantage for believing in verizon and Motos empty sales propaganda.
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There was never a promise for sd card from motorola, if you think I'm wrong post any video or evidence besides the fact theirs one there. As for 4g well the samsung tab isn't out yet so its a race. The reason you don't have 4g right now isn't because they can't get it to work with tegra 2. I will be upset if samsung tab gets 4g before xoom but motorola has never said or advertised anything about the sd slot.
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There was never a promise for sd card from motorola, if you think I'm wrong post any video or evidence besides the fact theirs one there. As for 4g well the samsung tab isn't out yet so its a race. The reason you don't have 4g right now isn't because they can't get it to work with tegra 2. I will be upset if samsung tab gets 4g before xoom but motorola has never said or advertised anything about the sd slot.
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Yeah because it makes perfect sense for a manufacturer to spend money including an SD card slot when they never intend to activate it, the functionality is implied, because the slot exists. I like my Xoom as much as anyone, but if the Galaxy tab has a functioning LTE modem and working SD card slot on 6/6, I'll be calling everyone in the food chain at VZW, as a customer of almost 15yrs, they will replace this Xoom....
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Yeah because it makes perfect sense for a manufacturer to spend money including an SD card slot when they never intend to activate it. I like my Xoom as much as anyone, but if the Galaxy tab has a functioning LTE modem and working SD card slot on 6/6, I'll be calling everyone in the food chain at VZW, as a customer of almost 15yrs, they will replace this Xoom....
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Whatever logic you want to use is fine with me, my only point is that it has NEVER been advertised by motorola. Now I will be highly upset if we don't get our 4G update soon, especially when in the press conference they said 2nd quarter so basically they have till the end of June. If they go past june and samsung comes with 4G I will go HAM on a verizon rep
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There was never a promise for sd card from motorola, if you think I'm wrong post any video or evidence besides the fact theirs one there. As for 4g well the samsung tab isn't out yet so its a race. The reason you don't have 4g right now isn't because they can't get it to work with tegra 2. I will be upset if samsung tab gets 4g before xoom but motorola has never said or advertised anything about the sd slot.
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Yes they did! they said the SD card would be activated in a future software upgrade...
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Yes they did! they said the SD card would be activated in a future software upgrade...
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I've been on their website since the xoom was annouced and I've seen every commercial and youtube, never a mention of sd only upgradeable to 4G
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Read the press release, launch with LTE day one, as far as the worse tab comment, its tegra 2 like xoom, with better battery life and thinner and lighter, so no clue how it's "worse" in your mind.
Hope it kicks moto's ass to get it upgraded already
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Customers will be able to pre-order the device online on June 8
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And we know that when vzw or Samsung says "coming weeks", that usually doesn't mean 1-2 weeks.
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Yeah because it makes perfect sense for a manufacturer to spend money including an SD card slot when they never intend to activate it, the functionality is implied, because the slot exists. I like my Xoom as much as anyone, but if the Galaxy tab has a functioning LTE modem and working SD card slot on 6/6, I'll be calling everyone in the food chain at VZW, as a customer of almost 15yrs, they will replace this Xoom....
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I have a toggle on my 2 year old electronic door lock for my house labled "for future update" it will never be update nor do I care point is people include stuff all the time on things that don't work..another example is the USB slot on my dvr...completely inop
Straight from motorola. Not happening for a while
http://www.gottabemobile.com/2011/06/02/motorola-admits-defeat-in-race-to-4g-lte/
I think you're wrong.
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There was never a promise for sd card from motorola, if you think I'm wrong post any video or evidence besides the fact theirs one there. As for 4g well the samsung tab isn't out yet so its a race. The reason you don't have 4g right now isn't because they can't get it to work with tegra 2. I will be upset if samsung tab gets 4g before xoom but motorola has never said or advertised anything about the sd slot.
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From the Xoom Wifi Troublehooting FAQs:
"The microSD Card Slot is currently not active but a future software upgrade will enable this device to support up to a 32GB microSD card."
motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/63782/p_country_code/US
From the Xoom User Guide, 10th page:
"Photos and videos are stored on your microSD memory card."
motorola.com/staticfiles/Support/US-EN/TABLETS/XOOM/US-EN/Documents/StaticFiles/68014293001a.HC.030111.pdf
And also from the Xoom (not Wifi-only version) FAQ:
The microSD Card Slot is currently not active but a future software upgrade will enable this device to support up to a 32GB microSD card.
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Zoosh. That may or may not be what an ultrasonic payment sounds like to a dolphin, but it is definitely the name of a new mobile wallet technology developed by Silicon Valley start-up, Naratte. While Google and other major players have focused on traditional radio-based NFC, Naratte has been quietly testing its ultrasound system instead, motivated by the fact that it can work on ordinary handsets without the need for specialized NFC circuitry. Two phones can "zoosh" each other using nothing but their built-in microphones and speakers, so long as they're both running the necessary app. Moreover, Naratte claims that cash tills can be upgraded to hear the sweet jangle of ultrasonic cash for just $30 -- around a third of the cost of installing radio-based NFC hardware. So who knows? The last time you came this close to ultrasound was probably just before you were born, but one day you might find yourself using it to buy diapers. Scary.
Sauce: http://www.naratte.com/ and
http://www.engadget.com/2011/06/20/zoosh-does-mobile-payments-using-ultrasound-no-nfc-chip-require/
Hmmmm. Hopefully the competing technologies will mean ways like "NFC stickers" and "Market Applications" will be the way to use these things, rather than a hardware chip, coz no phone manufacturer and user would like to be locked to a single technology.
Hey everyone,
I have the S8 International edition and I am currently using android pay to look after my touchy payments. I am toying with the idea of getting a gear S3 watch (if I can afford one) and that obviously only supports Samsung Pay.
Does anyone have any thoughts on Samsung Pay vs Android Pay and do you know in the UK if it is supported by Natwest? I have seen a few write ups containing the following "It currently supports payment networks including Visa and MasterCard, and cards issued by Santander, Nationwide and MBNA, with HSBC, First Direct, M&S Bank and American Express said to be joining soon." but this has no mention of Natwest in it at all :/
Any thoughts or opinions would be great
I recently looked into the difference and it seems like the big one is samsung pay also uses something called MST which mimics magnetics strips so it supposedly is capable of being used in more places you wouldn't ordinarily be able to use android/apple pay. Someone probably knows the differences a bit better than I do though.
MST is the only reason to use Samsung Pay other than the fact they give you cash back points regardless of what card you use. Only Samsung Pay has MST which basically means you can use it at ANY terminal which can read magnetic strips.
oplix said:
MST is the only reason to use Samsung Pay other than the fact they give you cash back points regardless of what card you use. Only Samsung Pay has MST which basically means you can use it at ANY terminal which can read magnetic strips.
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I am pretty sure that we don't use the MST technology in the UK anymore. I don't think the card machines have it now. I gathered that was the maim difference so doesn't really matter which service I use. Thanks for the info
strongylad28 said:
I am pretty sure that we don't use the MST technology in the UK anymore. I don't think the card machines have it now. I gathered that was the maim difference so doesn't really matter which service I use. Thanks for the info
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I think I've used it maybe once or twice in the last 10 years when the chip on my card was playing up. Infact MST is disabled in Samsung Pay UK, so it offers nothing over Android Pay.
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nathdogg said:
I think I've used it maybe once or twice in the last 10 years when the chip on my card was playing up. Infact MST is disabled in Samsung Pay UK, so it offers nothing over Android Pay.
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Haha , good old UK restrictions! In that case then the only "benefit" of it is that I could use it on a Gear S3 if I get one
Thanks everyone for the input!
strongylad28 said:
Haha , good old UK restrictions! In that case then the only "benefit" of it is that I could use it on a Gear S3 if I get one
Thanks everyone for the input!
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Correct.
Although if Samsung decides to offer rewards in the UK, that could be a good reason to use it over Android Pay. Google seem to have promotions every now and then, like the Christmas cracker Android Pay promotion. This I believe is how a particular service will "win" over the competition, especially here in the UK were they are all very similar.
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nathdogg said:
Correct.
Although if Samsung decides to offer rewards in the UK, that could be a good reason to use it over Android Pay. Google seem to have promotions every now and then, like the Christmas cracker Android Pay promotion. This I believe is how a particular service will "win" over the competition, especially here in the UK were they are all very similar.
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I've actually only been using Android Pay since I got the S8 as my last phone was the OP2 and it doesn't have NFC , so I haven't come across any offers or anything as of yet. Interesting thought though
For me, Samsung Pay is the biggest reason why I continue to purchase the Galaxy's. Since it uses MST tech, I'm able to pay with my phone at almost all locations I go to, including taxi's and delis in NYC that have old card machines. No NFC? No problem. I still get employees telling me "Our machines don't work paying with your phone", I still do it, it works, and they're like "What phone is that?".