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Moved on, c ya guys

Hey guys. I've finally bit the bullet and moved on from the Hero. My new phone is the LG Optimus S. The one thing I'll say to you guys is if you have an available upgrade but don't want to pay some bullcrap 4G charge and a few hundred bucks, the Optimus S is the way to go. With the stock ROM, it's already snappier and quicker than the Hero, even overclocked and with CM. My sister has my Hero, and as of tonight we're not really on good terms with each other, so I doubt I'll be able to contribute much to the Hero anymore.
So with that, I bid you all farewell.
P.S: I'll still be on XDA though, don't worry about that!

Off you go
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Everyone who made this place fun when I first got here is leaving
Looks like I need to start making this place interesting for the new comers (read as: create trouble )

mrinehart93 said:
Hey guys. I've finally bit the bullet and moved on from the Hero. My new phone is the LG Optimus S. The one thing I'll say to you guys is if you have an available upgrade but don't want to pay some bullcrap 4G charge and a few hundred bucks, the Optimus S is the way to go. With the stock ROM, it's already snappier and quicker than the Hero, even overclocked and with CM. My sister has my Hero, and as of tonight we're not really on good terms with each other, so I doubt I'll be able to contribute much to the Hero anymore.
So with that, I bid you all farewell.
P.S: I'll still be on XDA though, don't worry about that!
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my twopointtwo theme is currently getting ported to the optimus by some guys over in the android central forums

From HEROC to EVO SHIFT
This has been a great experience for me and my HEROC. Thanks to all the DEVS that supported this phone to the end.
I have recently upgraded my HEROC to a EVO SHIFT. Hopefully, I will see some of you over the Evo Shift Forums and we could all start over.
Looking forward to rooting, roming, and to the development of this new phone. I'll check back once in a while to see what kind of progreess the Heroc is getting.
Take care y'all...

I'd consider an Optimus S if there were forums for it on XDA.
Is there CyanogenMod for it? Custom Kernels? etc.......

Awesome! I am awaiting arrival of my Optimus as I type, come on UPS There is already some development as far as rom and OC Kernel happening. First thing I want to try and mod is getting Firerats to work I am happy to see your grabbing of the Optimus S, I seen Deca tweet something about possibly grabbing it too! Join the forum if you havent already, Thunder Rom looks to be fastest!
http://forum.androidcentral.com/lg-optimus-s/

Just ordered an Opt. S today also. Did a lot of soul searching before I did it (trying to decide between OS & Evo) and I just couldn't look at myself in the mirror paying the extra $10 for non existent 4G...
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cordell12 said:
Join the forum if you havent already, Thunder Rom looks to be fastest!
http://forum.androidcentral.com/lg-optimus-s/
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Thanks, I almost forgot that there was a world outside of XDA

kyouko said:
Everyone who made this place fun when I first got here is leaving
Looks like I need to start making this place interesting for the new comers (read as: create trouble )
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You? Create trouble? No! Never! Not you!

That'd be awesome if Decad3nce joins the Optimus S boat! Really, I don't even see a need for overclocking the Optimus S (sad to say it). Undervolt would be nice, but not an overclock. Everything already runs so smooth and snappy, it feels like what Android is really supposed to be. I've been running live wallpapers and ADW Launcher, and the scrolling is SMOOTH, no jaggies or anything. If you're looking for a regular 3G Android phone on Sprint, the Optimus S is the way to go.
I'll go register on Android Central so I can start with that I was thinking about seeing if I could compile AOSP 2.3 for it, so I'm going to try my hand at that
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I think gbhil has the Optimus S too!!

mrinehart93 said:
That'd be awesome if Decad3nce joins the Optimus S boat! Really, I don't even see a need for overclocking the Optimus S (sad to say it). Undervolt would be nice, but not an overclock. Everything already runs so smooth and snappy, it feels like what Android is really supposed to be. I've been running live wallpapers and ADW Launcher, and the scrolling is SMOOTH, no jaggies or anything. If you're looking for a regular 3G Android phone on Sprint, the Optimus S is the way to go.
I'll go register on Android Central so I can start with that I was thinking about seeing if I could compile AOSP 2.3 for it, so I'm going to try my hand at that
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Need? Nay, good sir, WANT! MOAR POWA! BIGGER, FASTER, STRONGER!!!
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Sent from my CDMA Hero. I got some hot Froyo-on-Hero action here!

Well I have had my optimus S for a little over 1 hour and this thing is pretty bad ass! I hit 1262 in quadrant, I can play Angry Birds in REAL time, LOL. The phone has a good feel in my hands, like the hero does. I only wish the screen were the same, but I will get over it. The custom rom "Thunder Rom" is fast, I will make some edits of course. Who knows if we can get enough users maybe we can get Cyanogen Mod for it

The only difference is the screen is made of fiberglass instead of actual glass... But believe it or not, I kind of like the fiberglass better. The screen is slicker even without any oil on it, unlike the glass screen.
I'm going to see if I can port my CyanogenSense theme over to it

you gonna try a webos port to that phone too? j/k
enjoy your phone, im sure glad i dumped my hero when i did and got the evo. people are dropping like flies around here. ive never seen soo many people leave a phone in a little over a years time. that goes to say alot.

mrinehart93 said:
The only difference is the screen is made of fiberglass instead of actual glass... But believe it or not, I kind of like the fiberglass better. The screen is slicker even without any oil on it, unlike the glass screen.
I'm going to see if I can port my CyanogenSense theme over to it
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yeah but you better look into a screen protector real quick.

fixxxer2008 said:
you gonna try a webos port to that phone too? j/k
enjoy your phone, im sure glad i dumped my hero when i did and got the evo. people are dropping like flies around here. ive never seen soo many people leave a phone in a little over a years time. that goes to say alot.
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Haha no webos. I'm going to stick with Android since it actually runs good now.
Yeah, I have a feeling that if Sprint gave better support for the Hero and din't just dump it, people wouldn't have left so fast. Believe it or not, the Optimus is just as snappy and quick as my friend's Galaxy S... It's remarkable when you go from the Hero to another phone, because you can actually see how Android is supposed to run. I don't even need a task killer anymore, since the Optimus doesn't slow down at all.

mrinehart93 said:
Haha no webos. I'm going to stick with Android since it actually runs good now.
Yeah, I have a feeling that if Sprint gave better support for the Hero and din't just dump it, people wouldn't have left so fast. Believe it or not, the Optimus is just as snappy and quick as my friend's Galaxy S... It's remarkable when you go from the Hero to another phone, because you can actually see how Android is supposed to run. I don't even need a task killer anymore, since the Optimus doesn't slow down at all.
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yeah my evo was a HUGE upgrade for me. but we are moving to tmobile next month and the g2 or nexus s is calling my name.
i almost looked into buying the optimus s but i decided on the evo instead.

fixxxer2008 said:
yeah but you better look into a screen protector real quick.
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Yeah, I'm going to look into a screen protector I think... Maybe not though, since I have Best Buy insurance on my phone (no deductible, unlimited claims )

mrinehart93 said:
Yeah, I'm going to look into a screen protector I think... Maybe not though, since I have Best Buy insurance on my phone (no deductible, unlimited claims )
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look into a phanton skinz, they are awesome and only cost about $7 for two of them. keep in touch bro, you were always a level headed dev on here.
im sure xda will add a optimus s section soon. there's already a request thread for it.

Should i get the HTC Evo

I am thinking of getting this phone but if heard some bad things about it. ive had non stop issues with phones since the HTC mogul. i had the HTC mogul replaced 9 times due to keyboard failures, then HTC touch they sent me and HATED it, then they sent me HTC touch pro and it was decent but had it replace 23 times due to keyboard issues even after the redesign of them. then i got the palm pre and after the 3rd replacement they gave me a HTC Hero which i love. but i dont like how slow it is tho but the style and sense system i really like..
so is getting the HTC evo a good idea?
so for being so long

Seeing that this is an EVO forum I'd guess most people will say it's a great phone.
Why don't you tell us what you're looking for in a phone. There are a few really nice phones coming out in the upcoming months. Do you have to be on Sprint?

get it you dont know what your missing out on

I don't think you will have keyboard issues with an EVO......

What are you doing to your phones to have them replaced that many times? I have never heard of anyone having so many issues before.

omg!
23 times... that is twice a month for a year!!!!
really?? IF true.. i would be a hell raiser in their store.. they would be scared to see me coming every other week!!!!
why would you want another HTC device?? you love punishment?
that said...
I love my EVO!! best phone out .. RIGHT NOW.
but... there are issues with a small portion of these phones..
and with your luck with htc..you will find all of them.. or they will find you!
normally i tell people to get th evo... but you... i hesitate.

Maximiano said:
What are you doing to your phones to have them replaced that many times? I have never heard of anyone having so many issues before.
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with verizon i had 39 replacements in 2 years (i broke the front screen of one of those phones, everything else wasn't my fault) Since switching to sprint i had one replacement since june.

If you liked the Hero you will love the Evo has all of the features and so much more, plus FASTER!
Go for it, there is always the 30 day return option.
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HTC #15
Amon's Recovery

lol the 23 replacements were with in 6 month's. they were internal issues. i always use a case, screen protectors. i am very careful with these phones since there so damn expensive
im looking for something as close to the Hero as possible. ive heard alot of good about the Evo, but also alot of bad.
also thank you for very fast replies

I have never had to replace a phone -- I guess that's just me though. All I know is that if I ever had that much trouble with a phone maker, I would never again buy their product.
Edit: I have never had an issue with my Evo and I have done a lot of flashing. I have also switched 10 of my friends to an Evo and the only complaint has been battery life - which was easily handled with rooting.

Dan330 said:
omg!
23 times... that is twice a month for a year!!!!
really?? IF true.. i would be a hell raiser in their store.. they would be scared to see me coming every other week!!!!
why would you want another HTC device?? you love punishment?
that said...
I love my EVO!! best phone out .. RIGHT NOW.
but... there are issues with a small portion of these phones..
and with your luck with htc..you will find all of them.. or they will find you!
normally i tell people to get th evo... but you... i hesitate.
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i really enjoy the HTC phones and the things i can do with them. and with the android system im am very pleased. i just always get lemons. im not exactly on the lucky side lol. but i have had no issues with the HTC hero. only issue i screw up loading a new rom and it locked the phone up but i fixxed it.

I had a hero before my evo too. I loved that phone to death, but it was so damn slow. So when the evo came out I got it, and ive only had 1 replacement since july because the phone broke inside. Overall this phone is amazing. I dont have any problems with battery and the phone is super fast. Definitely get this phone!!!

thank you speedy.
@ Maximiano, i kno i keep going back to HTC but its the style of them i like. im bound to get a good one eventually and the hero has worked so far. as for the battery..... im use to it. the palm pre had a HORRID battery life. i was lucky to make it 4 hours out of the few i had.

Well I think the battery on the Evo is good. I unplug my phone at 6am every day and plug it in at 10pm every day. At 6pm im at 50% so this phone holds up durring the day. As for use:
30 mins of calling
50 txt
5 emails
20 mins of internet
Angry birds 20 mins
(Angry birds ****s on the battery)

kyhassen said:
I am thinking of getting this phone but if heard some bad things about it. ive had non stop issues with phones since the HTC mogul. i had the HTC mogul replaced 9 times due to keyboard failures, then HTC touch they sent me and HATED it, then they sent me HTC touch pro and it was decent but had it replace 23 times due to keyboard issues even after the redesign of them. then i got the palm pre and after the 3rd replacement they gave me a HTC Hero which i love. but i dont like how slow it is tho but the style and sense system i really like..
so is getting the HTC evo a good idea?
so for being so long
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Honestly i say yes. The Evo feels good, its fast. Even stock sense isn't that bad. You have the option to root your phone, can stay on a sense rom, and with different kernels, you can make your phone perform faster. The Evo is all touch, so no keyboard to replace.

lol angry birds rules. its so slow on the hero. but by the sounds of it. seems like its about the same life as my hero.
i do:
50-200 txt messaging.
15 emails
2 hours of music/movies
15 min-30 min of talk time.
15min-1 hour of a game. (zenonia, angry bird, ect.)

@ teh roxxorz
lol im sick of keyboard replacing. i miss how fast i use to be with a pull out keyboard but i been doing well with a touch screen. and that swype ive seen seems interesting. but thank you for the tips

The EVO is an amazing device and you wont go wrong by getting it. The stock software is passable but we have an awesome development community here and a TON of great ROMs to choose from. That being said, im sure Sprint will be releasing its successor come summertime so if you can stand it, i would wait to see whats coming out. 22 months is a long time to wait for an upgrade so you'll be kicking yourself if you buy the EVO now only to have the EVO2 (or whatever it will be called) come out a few months into your new contract.

_MetalHead_ said:
The EVO is an amazing device and you wont go wrong by getting it. The stock software is passable but we have an awesome development community here and a TON of great ROMs to choose from. That being said, im sure Sprint will be releasing its successor come summertime so if you can stand it, i would wait to see whats coming out.
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i kno of a few phones coming out later and 1 of them i guess has a duo core processor by the sounds of it. but i dont need nothin super fast. just something alot faster than the hero and the evo seems to be good. just was curious if it was a good idea. some of the replies here have helped me too. thank you all. i probably will be picking it up next week.
i been looking around at some of the roms and themes. so far ive come to really like the design of:
[02/06/2011] - MikFroYo v4.5
and the theme 'Slayer69's CYAN Dragon's

kyhassen said:
i been looking around at some of the roms and themes. so far ive come to really like the design of:
[02/06/2011] - MikFroYo v4.5
and the theme 'Slayer69's CYAN Dragon's
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I would be remiss in my duties as an e-friend and EVO owner if I did not direct your attention to MIUI. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=915527

Trade Evo for Epic

Anyone here want to trade their evo for a samsung epic?
if you' re in the mid-atlantic, I'll drive to you to make the trade. That's south Jersey to northern Virginia.

and.... samsung looses another one.
i think your in the wrong section man, nobody here likes the epic, me included. ill never own that phone again. your best bet is to ask for a trade on craigslist locally.

fat chance imho

Why does everyone hate that phone?
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Gilly11277 said:
Why does everyone hate that phone?
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It's called FSD (Fanboy Syndrome Disorder)
PS. My name is HondaCop and I approve this message.

HondaCop said:
It's called FSD (Fanboy Syndrome Disorder)
PS. My name is HondaCop and I approve this message.
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Really?
I'll go with the lack of Dev support and poor manufacturer support. Samsung is concerned with pushing new products on you, not with supporting products you have already purchased. Everyone knows the over hyped galaxy S line is still on 2.1 while everyone else is about to go to 2.3 and beyond.
If that's "FSD", then I have it too.

Rippley05 said:
Really?
I'll go with the lack of Dev support and poor manufacturer support. Samsung is concerned with pushing new products on you, not with supporting products you have already purchased. Everyone knows the over hyped galaxy S line is still on 2.1 while everyone else is about to go to 2.3 and beyond.
If that's "FSD", then I have it too.
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THIS.
I'll never own another Samsung phone again.

Originally Posted by Rippley05
Really?
I'll go with the lack of Dev support and poor manufacturer support. Samsung is concerned with pushing new products on you, not with supporting products you have already purchased. Everyone knows the over hyped galaxy S line is still on 2.1 while everyone else is about to go to 2.3 and beyond.
If that's "FSD", then I have it too.
THIS.
I'll never own another Samsung phone again.
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+1. I thought about the Epic after owning the moment. Now that I've realized physical keyboards aren't necessary and seeing how they've jacked around the Epic owners...

Anyone here want to trade their EVO for a Motorola Razr?

Ill trade your epic for a Blackberry curve

Pm sent
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I have an HTC Touch I'm willing to trade.
This has been a telepathic transmission from the Outer Limits.

I actually LOVED my last Samsung.. (forget the name, it was the flat flip phone a couple yrs back)... BUT....
That being said, I actually GOT an epic the 1st week it was out... when the stores were out of the Evo's.
I played with a friends Evo and returned the Epic the next day.
It was mostly because of the "feel" of the phone. Cheap imo compared to the bulk feel of the Evo.
I'm hard on phones and the wobbly slider moved everytime I lifted it to my ear. It just felt too plastic-y to me.
The screen was def. beautiful but not worth it to be. If I watching movies or playing games, or wasn't so rough on phones I may have very well stuck with the Epic. But the Evo is for me. I think it just depends on what you are wanting out of your phone.

akarol said:
Anyone here want to trade their EVO for a Motorola Razr?
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What color?
You have been EVOfied.

bigd2442 said:
It was mostly because of the "feel" of the phone. Cheap imo compared to the bulk feel of the Evo.
I'm hard on phones and the wobbly slider moved everytime I lifted it to my ear. It just felt too plastic-y to me.
The screen was def. beautiful but not worth it to be. If I watching movies or playing games, or wasn't so rough on phones I may have very well stuck with the Epic. But the Evo is for me. I think it just depends on what you are wanting out of your phone.
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BINGO!
I just traded my Epic for an EVO. I was within my "30-days" as a new Sprint customer and this is EXACTLY why I traded. I'm much happier with a phone that doesn't feel like a cheap child's toy.

Ryjabo said:
BINGO!
I just traded my Epic for an EVO. I was within my "30-days" as a new Sprint customer and this is EXACTLY why I traded. I'm much happier with a phone that doesn't feel like a cheap child's toy.
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This is a serious question. I really like the camera on my epic. It's actually a very useable daily carry camera. Did you have any chance to compare the quality of the evo vs epic camera while you had yours?
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Put it up on craigslist. That's how I traded away my epic. Took me about a week to get it traded away

Bigjim1488 said:
Put it up on craigslist. That's how I traded away my epic. Took me about a week to get it traded away
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Thanks, already got someone from this post.
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aleph23 said:
This is a serious question. I really like the camera on my epic. It's actually a very useable daily carry camera. Did you have any chance to compare the quality of the evo vs epic camera while you had yours?
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The Evo takes damn good pictures. So good, in fact, that I gave my camera to a friend of mine because her phone sucks at taking pictures.
As for the Epic, I still have the files to restore Epic to stock and unrooted because my friend owns an Epic and can't seem to get any decent rom installed without a plethora of instructions.
Instructions for flashing a rom on an evo:
boot into recovery
wipe all
flash rom
*flash kernel (optional)*
*flash themes (optional)*
reboot
enjoy
for like 95% of our roms and only the really experimental ones don't follow that process. The epic? you have to use odin, you have to install multiple files (like CM, but more frustrating), then you have to worry about compatibility. My friend hasn't been able to flash a stable froyo rom yet and we have stable gingerbread roms with 4g. Ridiculous.
Samsung used to build a great phone, I was a big fan of the Rant for awhile. It was heavy, durable and actually good looking. The epic looks like a slider smartphone would've looked 2 years ago. Thick, plastic, cheap feeling, light and thick. However, it is an Android phone, which makes it 100 times better than an iPhone.
I'm an Android fanboy, I'll admit it. I've used W7 and iOS and I just don't feel the power user love that I feel with an Android phone

AbsolutZeroGI said:
The Evo takes damn good pictures. So good, in fact, that I gave my camera to a friend of mine because her phone sucks at taking pictures.
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That's good to hear. I get great low light pictures and the built in panoramics are nice too on the epic. May have someone wanting to trade in my area.
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Made the Epic switch.

I recently switched from the EVO to the Epic, got sick of fealing with the screen lifting away from the last 2 replacements nd got Sprint to replace it with a new Epic, and I love this phone.
The only thing I've noticed is that there seems to be larger selection of custom roms, other than that the phone is amazing.
Anyone else make the switchM
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There is less of a selection. But the hardware is far superior. The screen is so much better. If you've already rooted. Definately flash the acs syndicate rom. And odin the ee05 modem. You'll be amased how much faster this phone is then the evo. And I personaly will never buy a cell phone that does not the the super amoled screen. Everything else just looks like trash

gjones77 said:
I recently switched from the EVO to the Epic, got sick of fealing with the screen lifting away from the last 2 replacements nd got Sprint to replace it with a new Epic, and I love this phone.
The only thing I've noticed is that there seems to be larger selection of custom roms, other than that the phone is amazing.
Anyone else make the switchM
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Welcome!
I also would recommend the syndicate frozen rom at this time.

I as well suggest the frozen rom. Since I flashed that rom, my love for this phone grew even larger. Lol.
Posted by some phone named the Epic.

+1 for ACS SyndicateROM Frozen!
I used stock EE03 for a few days...too slow. Maybe I am spoiled with EXT4
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1091680

I just made the switch too, from the hero. man what a diferrence!Now to read up on how to do mods on this as I see some terms that I didnt see on the hero forum.

I have a feeling a LOT of people are going to be switching over now that the Epic is basically free with a new contract from best buy and many other places.
My biggest suggestion to Epic 4g newbies is to read and follow what the devs say exactly when you are flashing their roms. Don't think that "you know better" because you have had other Android phones. The Epic is kinda a weird beast and likes to be treated like a special lady. So when a dev says to wipe data 3x in CWM, yes it sounds stupid, but thats the kinda treatment your new phone requires.

Welcome, enjoy! I'm kinda busy finding fun things to flash to make the perfect theme for myself... Great community, graet phones and great minds. Btw, Mystery reports more speed in 1.2 than in 1.1.1.

HTC Evo Shift Vs Samsung Epic 4G *ROOTED*

So I'm positive everyone see's this question all the time. But they always judge it on the stock phones. Well I'm looking to get one of these phones, but to ROOT them. Which one do you believe I should get and why? I'm also looking into battery life even though buying an extended battery isn't a problem. Also which rom do you think is best for your pick? Thanks in advance.
Will be posting in both sides to get more answers

Easy answer... look at the topics and responsees in both forums and decide which group you would rather deal with...
And then look at the rom and root options of both. HTC is on a whole nother level.
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Well seeing how the Epic community jumped on my question much faster, with more people ... Lol jk.
But any more suggestions people? Thanks in advance

Do not get the Epic!!!!! I didnt like it as its made like ****. The shift is much faster and even my sister wishes she would have just gotten the EVO and shes not even a power user. HTC makes the best phones on the market and I will always be buying my phones from them.
Get the Shift, Root it, Install Shift Deck and enjoy an awesome phone

westicle said:
Easy answer... look at the topics and responsees in both forums and decide which group you would rather deal with...
And then look at the rom and root options of both. HTC is on a whole nother level.
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This. And I own an Epic (my wife has the shift). I'd never trade my Epic in for anything, at least at this point, but yeah the Epic forum is full of complainers, trolls, and guys with tiny wangs (or so I assume with how they have to constantly act like king s**t in the forums all of the time). And shift has a ton more devs, plus working cm7. But the phone itself is sweet, and faster (in my opinion, with the right rom), and has an independent number row. And the screen is bigger and looks nicer. I could go on and on about differences, but I've gotta run for now.
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From everything I've heard, the CPU in the shift has the edge on the Epic, but the GPU in the Epic edges out the Shift. If battery life is important to you, I say hands down go with the Shift. I easily get a full day every day and my friend with an epic is always asking people for chargers, even changed all his backgrounds to black to save battery (doesn't save on LCD but on LED it does). He does everything he can and still struggles for a full day out of the thing. Now I speak from what he's told me, I've never owned an Epic myself. Overall I've been thrilled with the shift, does everything I ask of it with no lag and no complaints.

HTCotta said:
From everything I've heard, the CPU in the shift has the edge on the Epic, but the GPU in the Epic edges out the Shift. If battery life is important to you, I say hands down go with the Shift. I easily get a full day every day and my friend with an epic is always asking people for chargers, even changed all his backgrounds to black to save battery (doesn't save on LCD but on LED it does). He does everything he can and still struggles for a full day out of the thing. Now I speak from what he's told me, I've never owned an Epic myself. Overall I've been thrilled with the shift, does everything I ask of it with no lag and no complaints.
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I certainly had this issue on stock rom on the Epic. I couldn't even make it through a work shift without the battery dying. But custom roms on the Epic blow that out of the water. I now can go a whole day of moderate usage and still have around 30-40%. But I don't know, I'm guessing with a custom rom the Shift still kicks the Epic's ass battery-wise. My wife is running CM7 (which the Epic may not see for a looong time), and I don't ever see her reaching for a charger or complaining of the battery. And being of the female variety, she tends to use a lot of the live wallpapers, widgets, etc...

fifedogg said:
Do not get the Epic!!!!! I didnt like it as its made like ****. The shift is much faster and even my sister wishes she would have just gotten the EVO and shes not even a power user. HTC makes the best phones on the market and I will always be buying my phones from them.
Get the Shift, Root it, Install Shift Deck and enjoy an awesome phone
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The Shift now comes stock with Gingerbread from Sprint. There is no way to root it. You are SOL. I pulled all of my hair out when I figured this out.
Turns out Android (maybe not "Android", but the current ecosystem) sucks hard. Suckers like you and I come online and see threads and guides about rooting that simply won't ever work on our devices because they've been manufacturer updated. And sites like this don't seem to give a damn -- at least update the root "guide", mods.
Quite worthless. Don't fall for this BS. The Shift is again unrootable, just like almost all updated phones from Sprint. Chances are, with the devs having moved on or got lucky enough to have an old version of Android when they got theirs, all new ones will remain unrootable forever. #@(*$

curiousGeorge said:
The Shift is again unrootable
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How can it be unrootable "again"? If it was unrootable the first time, then how did we get it?
curiousGeorge said:
...all new ones will remain unrootable forever.
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Yes, you are absolutely right. The updated ROM from Sprint will never be rooted.
NEVER. EVER.
Has anyone tried to run an old Froyo RUU on a brand new Shift that came with Gingerbread?

x99percent said:
Has anyone tried to run an old Froyo RUU on a brand new Shift that came with Gingerbread?
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I've seen where a few people have tried the one zip ruu but the updated bootloader didn't recognize it.
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X99 was wondering that my self,gonna try it later tonite when the wife gets home.She uodated hers,I downloaded an ruu yesterday the .exe. I will report in the am
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Epic. 10char
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curiousGeorge said:
The Shift now comes stock with Gingerbread from Sprint. There is no way to root it. You are SOL. I pulled all of my hair out when I figured this out.
Turns out Android (maybe not "Android", but the current ecosystem) sucks hard. Suckers like you and I come online and see threads and guides about rooting that simply won't ever work on our devices because they've been manufacturer updated. And sites like this don't seem to give a damn -- at least update the root "guide", mods.
Quite worthless. Don't fall for this BS. The Shift is again unrootable, just like almost all updated phones from Sprint. Chances are, with the devs having moved on or got lucky enough to have an old version of Android when they got theirs, all new ones will remain unrootable forever. #@(*$
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You need to take a breather my friend. The stock 2.3 will get rooted in time, just like the 2.2 did. "Unrootable forever" is just an ignorant statement. If all you're gonna do is rant and rave a bunch of misinformation, please keep the post to yourself.

Back on topic...
I have a shift and purchased the Epic for my wife.
The Epic display is nicer, and the epic actually feels lighter (and is?) Than my shift. It also has more keys on the keyboard.
However, on stock ROMs my shift seems faster and has better battery life. UI's are a very personal preference, but I much prefer the HTC sense and overall software stack vs Samsung's touchwiz. It just seems to work better.
I've beeen running custom ROMs on my shift and most of them work well. About ready to try a custom ROM on the Epic to see if it works better...
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curiousGeorge said:
The Shift now comes stock with Gingerbread from Sprint. There is no way to root it. You are SOL. I pulled all of my hair out when I figured this out.
Turns out Android (maybe not "Android", but the current ecosystem) sucks hard. Suckers like you and I come online and see threads and guides about rooting that simply won't ever work on our devices because they've been manufacturer updated. And sites like this don't seem to give a damn -- at least update the root "guide", mods.
Quite worthless. Don't fall for this BS. The Shift is again unrootable, just like almost all updated phones from Sprint. Chances are, with the devs having moved on or got lucky enough to have an old version of Android when they got theirs, all new ones will remain unrootable forever. #@(*$
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Yes, and man will never go to the moon. We will never be able to fly. Come on man .
PS. Don't knock the Site, or the Dev's. The work they do is because they want to, it's not an obligation.

after the samsung moment debacle i will never own another samsung phone. to me the epic is a moment on steroids. its still a POS lol. glad i switched to the shift

prboy1969 said:
Yes, and man will never go to the moon. We will never be able to fly. Come on man .
PS. Don't knock the Site, or the Dev's. The work they do is because they want to, it's not an obligation.
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+1
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ive been very happy with both my shift and the dev community here (who have turned me from an ignorant n00b-lout into a root-user) and all those who have helped me try and solve my problems.
As for rooting gingersense, it will happen soon enough, just give the devs here some time.

My wife has the Epic and I have the Shift 4G. I can't stand her phone, and she can't stand mine. Tho we both take our phone's off the charger in the morning and when we drive home, mine still is in the green where she has to use the car charger going home. Then again, neither of our phones are rooted. I have rooted her phone in the past, didn't seem to make much difference. Still running the crappy samsung software.

Stuke00 said:
My wife has the Epic and I have the Shift 4G. I can't stand her phone, and she can't stand mine. Tho we both take our phone's off the charger in the morning and when we drive home, mine still is in the green where she has to use the car charger going home. Then again, neither of our phones are rooted. I have rooted her phone in the past, didn't seem to make much difference. Still running the crappy samsung software.
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Rooting in and of itself isn't going to make a damn bit of difference in battery life. It's what you do with the root that counts... lol, sounds like a phallic joke gone bad...
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