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has anyone from from an iphone to this?

IF so, thoughts?

I came from an iPhone 3g thats JB and unlocked. I love my iPhone BUT got really tired of only having EDGE and I hate crapple and got tired of supporting um. Ill be honest here...This phone is nothing like my iPhone infact the more I use it the harder it is for me to compare the two. This phone is way faster than my 3g ever was or could be, it runs multiple apps at once and by multiple I mean I can have 15 diff things running in background and still have 230+ of memory availiable! Its obviously lacking with the amount of apps availiable but thats all changing as Android is releasing more and more apps everyday not to mention after u sift thru all of the apps on the appstore you realize over half of them are ridiculously dumb. The games etc are not as good as the iphone cause of the screen resolution but once you get over all that I think you will see, as I did, that this phone is just as good and you will really love it. Hope my opinion helps ya.

megan23247 said:
I came from an iPhone 3g thats JB and unlocked. I love my iPhone BUT got really tired of only having EDGE and I hate crapple and got tired of supporting um. Ill be honest here...This phone is nothing like my iPhone infact the more I use it the harder it is for me to compare the two. This phone is way faster than my 3g ever was or could be, it runs multiple apps at once and by multiple I mean I can have 15 diff things running in background and still have 230+ of memory availiable! Its obviously lacking with the amount of apps availiable but thats all changing as Android is releasing more and more apps everyday not to mention after u sift thru all of the apps on the appstore you realize over half of them are ridiculously dumb. The games etc are not as good as the iphone cause of the screen resolution but once you get over all that I think you will see, as I did, that this phone is just as good and you will really love it. Hope my opinion helps ya.
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it sure does! thanks alot. i have the hd2, and if a stable working port is not working in the next few months, i will replace it with the mytouch.
Thanks again

dvigue said:
it sure does! thanks alot. i have the hd2, and if a stable working port is not working in the next few months, i will replace it with the mytouch.
Thanks again
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You might as well just get the slide then because thats not going to happen.

krolla03 said:
You might as well just get the slide then because thats not going to happen.
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and why do you say that??? there has been so much progress in the last month...
why would it never happen>?

dvigue said:
it sure does! thanks alot. i have the hd2, and if a stable working port is not working in the next few months, i will replace it with the mytouch.
Thanks again
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Funny you say that... that's what i just did... i had an hd2 for about 2 months... saw the port for android... had it running... and got too impatient, and traded it for a mt3g slide....
best decision i've ever made... the screen on the hd2 is nice, but WM is garbage... also the mt3g slide's screen is pretty much the same size of the iphone, which i've used and loved... and the speed of the mt3g slide honestly feels like the snapdragon processor...
i purchased it, reset it, and downloaded a task killer, while i was messing around with it, it was very snappy and fast at loading EVERYTHING, then i used the task killer, and saw that it had just ended 30 FREAKING APPS!
So while i was playing with the phone, 30 apps running in the background, and was still fast as hell...
and the physical keyboard??? and touch keyboard?? This phone is wonderful... you won't regret it... trust me

Exactly! I had the HD2 for like two weeks and was totally disapointed windows mobile hasnt hardly changed at all and I hadnt had a WM phone in years I really wanted that phone to be more than what it is. Anyway, get a slide...its NOT an iphone BUT you will learn to like it just as much if not more esp after you see how much faster 3g is than Edge.
Sent from ROOTED MyTouch Slide

I came from an original iPhone. Honestly, if T-Mo could get 3G on an iPhone, I would have got another one, but EDGE is just too damn slow. The iPhone is very smooth in my opinion. Not really a fanboy, but it was just so easy to use. Jailbreaking/Unlocking by restoring FW was cake. All this talk about rooting/flashing etc. for Android can be time consuming and confusing.

I came from iPhone 3G on AT&T with 3G coverage. In my area (South Jersey) AT&T has MUCH better coverage than T-Mobile (I have 3G @ home but I only get 30kbps downloads at best; was getting 300-800k on AT&T).
I have to say, I am completely in love with the MtTouch 3G Slide. I miss FarmStory from TeamLava but at least I have all my Storm8 games and was able to port the account over.
I love having Widgets on my homescreens and multitasking is a definate plus. And I don't have to pay for a 3rd party app to record video .
My iPhone was jailbroke but not unlocked as I didn't need it. I have yet to root my phone but have plans to once we get stable FroYo.
But that's just my $0.02
Sent from my T-Mobile myTouch 3G Slide using XDA App

This is freakishly crazy, I also had an iphone 3G on Tmobile and I loved the phone but couldn't stand edge any longer! I went out and purchased the slide because the specs are really good and it could actually multitask! I ported over my storm 8 games and I am currently using a beta version of palringo and I am missing my 3G less and less! My only gripe with android is moreso with the developers because the apps that they made for apple usually have more functionality than the android version. If the developers actually made the same products for android as they did for apple, me people would gladly make the switch!
Sent from my T-Mobile myTouch 3G Slide using XDA App

good info. i just wish i could see the screen for myself. non around here are "on" they are just dummy phones..WTF>.
im really thinking of it...i love my hd2 with android, but i wonder HW good the rom with atcually be....and with the mytouch, its an android phon..so no issues...
hummm.....

megan, how long did it take for you to root your slide? just wondering
Thanks
Drew

It took me two days of reading, then I watched the video about 6 times, then I just did it and the actual process only took about 30 min. I have my electronic eng. Degree believe it or not but had NO clue how to use adb or anything else that had to do with Android so I guess u could say I am a newbie...maybe I just got lucky cause it worked my first try!
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glad to hear the videos worked out for ya! also glad you actually read the outline on how to do it apparently people dont know how to follow instructions, but you're one of the lucky few who can!

Moved on, c ya guys

Hey guys. I've finally bit the bullet and moved on from the Hero. My new phone is the LG Optimus S. The one thing I'll say to you guys is if you have an available upgrade but don't want to pay some bullcrap 4G charge and a few hundred bucks, the Optimus S is the way to go. With the stock ROM, it's already snappier and quicker than the Hero, even overclocked and with CM. My sister has my Hero, and as of tonight we're not really on good terms with each other, so I doubt I'll be able to contribute much to the Hero anymore.
So with that, I bid you all farewell.
P.S: I'll still be on XDA though, don't worry about that!

Off you go
Sent from my HERO200 using XDA App

Everyone who made this place fun when I first got here is leaving
Looks like I need to start making this place interesting for the new comers (read as: create trouble )

mrinehart93 said:
Hey guys. I've finally bit the bullet and moved on from the Hero. My new phone is the LG Optimus S. The one thing I'll say to you guys is if you have an available upgrade but don't want to pay some bullcrap 4G charge and a few hundred bucks, the Optimus S is the way to go. With the stock ROM, it's already snappier and quicker than the Hero, even overclocked and with CM. My sister has my Hero, and as of tonight we're not really on good terms with each other, so I doubt I'll be able to contribute much to the Hero anymore.
So with that, I bid you all farewell.
P.S: I'll still be on XDA though, don't worry about that!
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my twopointtwo theme is currently getting ported to the optimus by some guys over in the android central forums

From HEROC to EVO SHIFT
This has been a great experience for me and my HEROC. Thanks to all the DEVS that supported this phone to the end.
I have recently upgraded my HEROC to a EVO SHIFT. Hopefully, I will see some of you over the Evo Shift Forums and we could all start over.
Looking forward to rooting, roming, and to the development of this new phone. I'll check back once in a while to see what kind of progreess the Heroc is getting.
Take care y'all...

I'd consider an Optimus S if there were forums for it on XDA.
Is there CyanogenMod for it? Custom Kernels? etc.......

Awesome! I am awaiting arrival of my Optimus as I type, come on UPS There is already some development as far as rom and OC Kernel happening. First thing I want to try and mod is getting Firerats to work I am happy to see your grabbing of the Optimus S, I seen Deca tweet something about possibly grabbing it too! Join the forum if you havent already, Thunder Rom looks to be fastest!
http://forum.androidcentral.com/lg-optimus-s/

Just ordered an Opt. S today also. Did a lot of soul searching before I did it (trying to decide between OS & Evo) and I just couldn't look at myself in the mirror paying the extra $10 for non existent 4G...
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cordell12 said:
Join the forum if you havent already, Thunder Rom looks to be fastest!
http://forum.androidcentral.com/lg-optimus-s/
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Thanks, I almost forgot that there was a world outside of XDA

kyouko said:
Everyone who made this place fun when I first got here is leaving
Looks like I need to start making this place interesting for the new comers (read as: create trouble )
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You? Create trouble? No! Never! Not you!

That'd be awesome if Decad3nce joins the Optimus S boat! Really, I don't even see a need for overclocking the Optimus S (sad to say it). Undervolt would be nice, but not an overclock. Everything already runs so smooth and snappy, it feels like what Android is really supposed to be. I've been running live wallpapers and ADW Launcher, and the scrolling is SMOOTH, no jaggies or anything. If you're looking for a regular 3G Android phone on Sprint, the Optimus S is the way to go.
I'll go register on Android Central so I can start with that I was thinking about seeing if I could compile AOSP 2.3 for it, so I'm going to try my hand at that
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I think gbhil has the Optimus S too!!

mrinehart93 said:
That'd be awesome if Decad3nce joins the Optimus S boat! Really, I don't even see a need for overclocking the Optimus S (sad to say it). Undervolt would be nice, but not an overclock. Everything already runs so smooth and snappy, it feels like what Android is really supposed to be. I've been running live wallpapers and ADW Launcher, and the scrolling is SMOOTH, no jaggies or anything. If you're looking for a regular 3G Android phone on Sprint, the Optimus S is the way to go.
I'll go register on Android Central so I can start with that I was thinking about seeing if I could compile AOSP 2.3 for it, so I'm going to try my hand at that
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Need? Nay, good sir, WANT! MOAR POWA! BIGGER, FASTER, STRONGER!!!
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Sent from my CDMA Hero. I got some hot Froyo-on-Hero action here!

Well I have had my optimus S for a little over 1 hour and this thing is pretty bad ass! I hit 1262 in quadrant, I can play Angry Birds in REAL time, LOL. The phone has a good feel in my hands, like the hero does. I only wish the screen were the same, but I will get over it. The custom rom "Thunder Rom" is fast, I will make some edits of course. Who knows if we can get enough users maybe we can get Cyanogen Mod for it

The only difference is the screen is made of fiberglass instead of actual glass... But believe it or not, I kind of like the fiberglass better. The screen is slicker even without any oil on it, unlike the glass screen.
I'm going to see if I can port my CyanogenSense theme over to it

you gonna try a webos port to that phone too? j/k
enjoy your phone, im sure glad i dumped my hero when i did and got the evo. people are dropping like flies around here. ive never seen soo many people leave a phone in a little over a years time. that goes to say alot.

mrinehart93 said:
The only difference is the screen is made of fiberglass instead of actual glass... But believe it or not, I kind of like the fiberglass better. The screen is slicker even without any oil on it, unlike the glass screen.
I'm going to see if I can port my CyanogenSense theme over to it
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yeah but you better look into a screen protector real quick.

fixxxer2008 said:
you gonna try a webos port to that phone too? j/k
enjoy your phone, im sure glad i dumped my hero when i did and got the evo. people are dropping like flies around here. ive never seen soo many people leave a phone in a little over a years time. that goes to say alot.
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Haha no webos. I'm going to stick with Android since it actually runs good now.
Yeah, I have a feeling that if Sprint gave better support for the Hero and din't just dump it, people wouldn't have left so fast. Believe it or not, the Optimus is just as snappy and quick as my friend's Galaxy S... It's remarkable when you go from the Hero to another phone, because you can actually see how Android is supposed to run. I don't even need a task killer anymore, since the Optimus doesn't slow down at all.

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Haha no webos. I'm going to stick with Android since it actually runs good now.
Yeah, I have a feeling that if Sprint gave better support for the Hero and din't just dump it, people wouldn't have left so fast. Believe it or not, the Optimus is just as snappy and quick as my friend's Galaxy S... It's remarkable when you go from the Hero to another phone, because you can actually see how Android is supposed to run. I don't even need a task killer anymore, since the Optimus doesn't slow down at all.
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yeah my evo was a HUGE upgrade for me. but we are moving to tmobile next month and the g2 or nexus s is calling my name.
i almost looked into buying the optimus s but i decided on the evo instead.

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yeah but you better look into a screen protector real quick.
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Yeah, I'm going to look into a screen protector I think... Maybe not though, since I have Best Buy insurance on my phone (no deductible, unlimited claims )

mrinehart93 said:
Yeah, I'm going to look into a screen protector I think... Maybe not though, since I have Best Buy insurance on my phone (no deductible, unlimited claims )
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look into a phanton skinz, they are awesome and only cost about $7 for two of them. keep in touch bro, you were always a level headed dev on here.
im sure xda will add a optimus s section soon. there's already a request thread for it.

Thinking of switching to Sprint this summer, is the Evo Shift 4G still worth getting?

I have a Captivate on ATT right now, but when I turn 18 on June 24th, I can switch to sprint and get unlimited everything for $30 a month from my work. The Evo Shift 4G has been catching my eye lately. Is it still worth getting? I really want a phone with a physical keyboard and this one has a very nice keyboard.

as far as phones with keyboards, then yea, it's by far your best option. although overall, i'd say the new phones coming out (albeit sans keyboard) would be better.
at least the evo 3d anyway.

Phone needs to have a physical keyboard. The Epic 4G has a terrible keyboard, and quite frankly, I'd rather not have another Samsung phone, although I do like my Captivate a lot.

I love my Shift. Works great for me and I love how fast it is. If you have to pay for it, Radioshack seems to have the lowest prices for it.

$30 a month, unlimited everything, and an EVO Shift4G. Where do I sign up. As far as the Shift, I don't have anything bad to say. Phone is ubber fast out of the box. Plus it can be OC'd to crazy numbers. Stable. Nice themes. Physical keyboard. Good support for a fairly new phone. I say go for the Shift.

personally if i were you, i wouldn't get the shift. i'd wait for another good HW keyboard phone on sprint. the shift's ROM development sucks, almost nothing here. wait for something more supported by devs...

yokken said:
personally if i were you, i wouldn't get the shift. i'd wait for another good HW keyboard phone on sprint. the shift's ROM development sucks, almost nothing here. wait for something more supported by devs...
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how many different versions of the same rom do you want? we have 5-6 or sense roms, 3-4 aosp based roms.
what else do you want? what are we lacking?

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how many different versions of the same rom do you want? we have 5-6 or sense roms, 3-4 aosp based roms.
what else do you want? what are we lacking?
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I was thinking the same.. I'm grateful with what we have!!

yokken said:
personally if i were you, i wouldn't get the shift. i'd wait for another good HW keyboard phone on sprint. the shift's ROM development sucks, almost nothing here. wait for something more supported by devs...
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The Captivate has far too many roms. I'm not the kind of person that flashes a new rom every few days or so, I typically flash one every one-two months, so number of roms available does not matter to me as long as CM is available for it, or at least a rom based on stock that's good.

My whole family has shifts! I love it! Even more so that I installed miui rom on it!

Love my shift...
I have had my shift for several days now and am very pleased with it. I was thinking about the normal EVO 4g , but i went with the shift instead. i am glad i did i think the EVO 4g is just a bit to big to be piratical. I love the keyboard and do not find it slow. the only thing i find bad is the limited on board storage. as of now i am not planing on rooting my phone or putting a separate ROM on it.

You forgot to mention that MIUI is available. I agree with the others that say the shift is more than capable. I love mine and it keeps up with the "big" boys in any real world tasks.
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yokken said:
personally if i were you, i wouldn't get the shift. i'd wait for another good HW keyboard phone on sprint. the shift's ROM development sucks, almost nothing here. wait for something more supported by devs...
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When you say "almost nothing here" , whay do you mean? The phones only been out since January. We have plenty of choices as far as Roms go. You have more than enough apps. The prossesor more than keeps up with the newer phones. Hell I even start my car with mine . So what exactly do you mean?
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riggsandroid said:
how many different versions of the same rom do you want? we have 5-6 or sense roms, 3-4 aosp based roms.
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Liquid Acer would be sweet, loved it on my EVO. CJ_

If you need a keyboard, then the EVO Shift is the way to go. My wife has one and I occasionally have to use it. The physical keyboard is awesome for typing long emails, working in terminals, internet forum posts, etc.
While I like my EVO for the larger screen, when I have to type the 300 word email while in a meeting, I wish I had her phone...

Alright, I'm going to get one of these next month. I like the fact that the phone isn't huge like the Captivate. I don't play games or watch videos on my phone, so a large screen isn't a necessity. The keyboard felt nice when I played with it, haven't gotten to play with an actual Shift yet though.

corybucher said:
Liquid Acer would be sweet, loved it on my EVO. CJ_
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well played CJ_, well played.....

Good choice :$ . You won't regret it.
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[Q] Thinking about getting an EPIC, can people help with a bit info on it?

I see the last thread with questions like this was from March, so I just wanted to get the latest about the EPIC...
Are there GPS, wifi, or keyboard issues or these are fixed by one or multiple ROMS available?
Are many devs still working on this device or had it been somewhat abandoned?
is CM7 pretty good without major bugs ?
will the battery last a full day with most ROMs with regular use (i.e. checking email, some web browing, maybe an hour of music streaming, etc)
Netflix works on some ROMs, right?
I have a Hero with CM7 and I like, but amazon still has (and BB just ended yesterday) free EPIC for upgrades, so thinking about getting one. I would get the EVO, but it's still $150 almost anywhere and at that price I would rather pay $200 for the E3D...but from $0 to $200 there's still a big difference
Thanks in advance

SDRebel said:
I see the last thread with questions like this was from March, so I just wanted to get the latest about the EPIC...
Are there GPS, wifi, or keyboard issues or these are fixed by one or multiple ROMS available?
Are many devs still working on this device or had it been somewhat abandoned?
is CM7 pretty good without major bugs ?
will the battery last a full day with most ROMs with regular use (i.e. checking email, some web browing, maybe an hour of music streaming, etc)
Netflix works on some ROMs, right?
I have a Hero with CM7 and I like, but amazon still has (and BB just ended yesterday) free EPIC for upgrades, so thinking about getting one. I would get the EVO, but it's still $150 almost anywhere and at that price I would rather pay $200 for the E3D...but from $0 to $200 there's still a big difference
Thanks in advance
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The Epic is an excellent device. Pretty much any issue we have has been fixed by the great devs here, but remember that the E3D and GS2 will be available soon. You might wanna wait and see first.

SDRebel said:
I see the last thread with questions like this was from March, so I just wanted to get the latest about the EPIC...
Are there GPS, wifi, or keyboard issues or these are fixed by one or multiple ROMS available?
Are many devs still working on this device or had it been somewhat abandoned?
is CM7 pretty good without major bugs ?
will the battery last a full day with most ROMs with regular use (i.e. checking email, some web browing, maybe an hour of music streaming, etc)
Netflix works on some ROMs, right?
I have a Hero with CM7 and I like, but amazon still has (and BB just ended yesterday) free EPIC for upgrades, so thinking about getting one. I would get the EVO, but it's still $150 almost anywhere and at that price I would rather pay $200 for the E3D...but from $0 to $200 there's still a big difference
Thanks in advance
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1. No problems with those in almost any ROM.
2. Devs are still around and work is still being done.
3. CM7 is still in Alpha 4 but its being worked on by TeamHacksung.
4. Cant really answer about batter since there are more factors than the ones you mentioned like signal quality in your area. Battery has gotten better though.
5. Yes, Netflix works on some ROMs.
Side note: Hero development was and still is pretty big compared to the Epic, dont expect the same amount of development for it.

mattallica76 said:
The Epic is an excellent device. Pretty much any issue we have has been fixed by the great devs here, but remember that the E3D and GS2 will be available soon. You might wanna wait and see first.
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Thanks. I know both are coming, the ED3 probably much sooner...I don't think I'll spend $200 on one of those phones though...but I am hoping the regular EVO can be free somewhere soon

Darkshneider said:
1. No problems with those in almost any ROM.
2. Devs are still around and work is still being done.
3. CM7 is still in Alpha 4 but its being worked on by TeamHacksung.
4. Cant really answer about batter since there are more factors than the ones you mentioned like signal quality in your area. Battery has gotten better though.
5. Yes, Netflix works on some ROMs.
Side note: Hero development was and still is pretty big compared to the Epic, dont expect the same amount of development for it.
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Thanks for the answer, but wow, Hero has more development than the Epic? I wouldn't have expected that. I was going to get the Epic from BB yesterday, but the one I went to sold out and the next one only had two and I ran out of time, so I either get it from Amazon or wait for another sale

The Epic is a very awesome device and is adequte for your your eveyday uses on top of mods. The Epic has tons of ROMs, themes, and other customization tools that have been worked on the past few months which made many of them "bug free". The full QWERTY keyboard comes in hand which really makes this device "EPIC".
If you are a real hard core developer and wouldn't mind living without the keyboard then I would recommend the Nexus which is very simular but with monster hardware, like the dual core processor for increased speed and performance. The down fall to these new devices is that there has not been as much development put into them yet, so customization is not as optional compared to the "Epic". The epic is an advance telecommunicational device not a cell phone but unfortunately there are more cell phone users on the sprint network that don't understand the power of the Epic. I hope this clearifies your decision. I hope that you decied to live the "Epic Life".
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Boss86 said:
The Epic is a very awesome device and is adequte for your your eveyday uses on top of mods. The Epic has tons of ROMs, themes, and other customization tools that have been worked on the past few months which made many of them "bug free". The full QWERTY keyboard comes in hand which really makes this device "EPIC".
If you are a real hard core developer and wouldn't mind living without the keyboard then I would recommend the Nexus which is very simular but with monster hardware, like the dual core processor for increased speed and performance. The down fall to these new devices is that there has not been as much development put into them yet, so customization is not as optional compared to the "Epic". The epic is an advance telecommunicational device not a cell phone but unfortunately there are more cell phone users on the sprint network that don't understand the power of the Epic. I hope this clearifies your decision. I hope that you decied to live the "Epic Life".
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Nexus S has dual core? Since when?
Also, Hero has more development since it was one of the first Android phones for Sprint, it was one of the nicest ones for its time and it was an HTC phone. Samsung tends to keep away developers. After the Evo came out, a few devs jumped ship to that but there were too many devs to let the phone die. Hell, look at Deca, I was so happy when he said he got an Epic knowing all the stuff he did for the Hero, I still cant wait what he can do for the Epic.

Darkshneider said:
Nexus S has dual core? Since when?
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It doesn't lol.
Sent from my perfect epic

zanderman112 said:
It doesn't lol.
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Cmon Zander, I was trying to get HIS answer lol.
(I know it doesnt have dual core)

Darkshneider said:
Cmon Zander, I was trying to get HIS answer lol.
(I know it doesnt have dual core)
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Oh, sorry
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SDRebel said:
Thanks in advance
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I have had my epic since jan maybe before but it seems like forever the phone stock is great I had no issues with any of the stock apps and functions. Now that I'm rooted and on syndicate frozen 1.1.1 its like having a brand new phone again. my opinion is get it you can't go wrong with it the slide out keyboard is great for games but with swype I almost never use it. Hope this helps.
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You wont find a better phone on the Sprint network for the same price for at least another 6-9 months (Free).

bmx_boi32 said:
the slide out keyboard is great for games but with swype I almost never use it.
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The keyboard was a big factor for me in choosing the Epic over the Evo. I still think I made the right choice, but I *never* use the keyboard. It's just too easy to type with swype. Whenever I ultimately decide to upgrade, it will be to a phone with no keyboard.

I do apologize about the miss information about the Nexus 4g, I was under the impression that it has a snapdragon processor. I believe that's the E3D. Thanks for the correction guys.
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Boss86 said:
I do apologize about the miss information about the Nexus 4g, I was under the impression that it has a snapdragon processor. I believe that's the E3D. Thanks for the correction guys.
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Lol its ok. The Nexus S has the same 1Ghz Hummingbird we do.
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I just got a new epic for free at best buy and gave my gf my old epic to replace her ****ty moment. For free the phone kicks all the "budget androids" asses. Order while you can for free at amazon.
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epic is the stuff
i love my epic..... had a semi brick the other day had me worried but odin did the trick even had a screen that ppl well versed in the epic language have never seen but with some persistance i got her back up and running

If you root it, its a good phone.
GPS Aids is a must, GPS is golden now.
4G only works outside...
The Viper Rom is the best, just use Root Uninstaller to delete the teams bloatware.
Dont overclock (only fun for benches), its not worth the battery lose/glitches.. Just use setcpu to change the governor to Performance.. Alot of games play good with Performance gov. and clocks set to as low as 400 mhz.
Only complaint: No gyro. Dont give me any lines about this! I wanna play Nova with a gyro not a touch screen!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I WILL MOVE OVER TO IPHONE JUST FOR THe GYRO, if still no phones/apps on android support it in Nov.

the keyboard is great for using Terminal Em. or punching in passwords. But ya it might not be worth the bulk..

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I WILL MOVE OVER TO IPHONE JUST FOR THe GYRO, if still no phones/apps on android support it in Nov.
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I must be confused about what you mean by Gyro
I play quite a few games that operate via tilting the phone only, rather than the touch screen

HTC Evo Shift Vs Samsung Epic 4G *ROOTED*

So I'm positive everyone see's this question all the time. But they always judge it on the stock phones. Well I'm looking to get one of these phones, but to ROOT them. Which one do you believe I should get and why? I'm also looking into battery life even though buying an extended battery isn't a problem. Also which rom do you think is best for your pick? Thanks in advance.
Will be posting in both sides to get more answers

Easy answer... look at the topics and responsees in both forums and decide which group you would rather deal with...
And then look at the rom and root options of both. HTC is on a whole nother level.
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Well seeing how the Epic community jumped on my question much faster, with more people ... Lol jk.
But any more suggestions people? Thanks in advance

Do not get the Epic!!!!! I didnt like it as its made like ****. The shift is much faster and even my sister wishes she would have just gotten the EVO and shes not even a power user. HTC makes the best phones on the market and I will always be buying my phones from them.
Get the Shift, Root it, Install Shift Deck and enjoy an awesome phone

westicle said:
Easy answer... look at the topics and responsees in both forums and decide which group you would rather deal with...
And then look at the rom and root options of both. HTC is on a whole nother level.
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This. And I own an Epic (my wife has the shift). I'd never trade my Epic in for anything, at least at this point, but yeah the Epic forum is full of complainers, trolls, and guys with tiny wangs (or so I assume with how they have to constantly act like king s**t in the forums all of the time). And shift has a ton more devs, plus working cm7. But the phone itself is sweet, and faster (in my opinion, with the right rom), and has an independent number row. And the screen is bigger and looks nicer. I could go on and on about differences, but I've gotta run for now.
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From everything I've heard, the CPU in the shift has the edge on the Epic, but the GPU in the Epic edges out the Shift. If battery life is important to you, I say hands down go with the Shift. I easily get a full day every day and my friend with an epic is always asking people for chargers, even changed all his backgrounds to black to save battery (doesn't save on LCD but on LED it does). He does everything he can and still struggles for a full day out of the thing. Now I speak from what he's told me, I've never owned an Epic myself. Overall I've been thrilled with the shift, does everything I ask of it with no lag and no complaints.

HTCotta said:
From everything I've heard, the CPU in the shift has the edge on the Epic, but the GPU in the Epic edges out the Shift. If battery life is important to you, I say hands down go with the Shift. I easily get a full day every day and my friend with an epic is always asking people for chargers, even changed all his backgrounds to black to save battery (doesn't save on LCD but on LED it does). He does everything he can and still struggles for a full day out of the thing. Now I speak from what he's told me, I've never owned an Epic myself. Overall I've been thrilled with the shift, does everything I ask of it with no lag and no complaints.
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I certainly had this issue on stock rom on the Epic. I couldn't even make it through a work shift without the battery dying. But custom roms on the Epic blow that out of the water. I now can go a whole day of moderate usage and still have around 30-40%. But I don't know, I'm guessing with a custom rom the Shift still kicks the Epic's ass battery-wise. My wife is running CM7 (which the Epic may not see for a looong time), and I don't ever see her reaching for a charger or complaining of the battery. And being of the female variety, she tends to use a lot of the live wallpapers, widgets, etc...

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Do not get the Epic!!!!! I didnt like it as its made like ****. The shift is much faster and even my sister wishes she would have just gotten the EVO and shes not even a power user. HTC makes the best phones on the market and I will always be buying my phones from them.
Get the Shift, Root it, Install Shift Deck and enjoy an awesome phone
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The Shift now comes stock with Gingerbread from Sprint. There is no way to root it. You are SOL. I pulled all of my hair out when I figured this out.
Turns out Android (maybe not "Android", but the current ecosystem) sucks hard. Suckers like you and I come online and see threads and guides about rooting that simply won't ever work on our devices because they've been manufacturer updated. And sites like this don't seem to give a damn -- at least update the root "guide", mods.
Quite worthless. Don't fall for this BS. The Shift is again unrootable, just like almost all updated phones from Sprint. Chances are, with the devs having moved on or got lucky enough to have an old version of Android when they got theirs, all new ones will remain unrootable forever. #@(*$

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The Shift is again unrootable
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How can it be unrootable "again"? If it was unrootable the first time, then how did we get it?
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...all new ones will remain unrootable forever.
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Yes, you are absolutely right. The updated ROM from Sprint will never be rooted.
NEVER. EVER.
Has anyone tried to run an old Froyo RUU on a brand new Shift that came with Gingerbread?

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Has anyone tried to run an old Froyo RUU on a brand new Shift that came with Gingerbread?
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I've seen where a few people have tried the one zip ruu but the updated bootloader didn't recognize it.
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X99 was wondering that my self,gonna try it later tonite when the wife gets home.She uodated hers,I downloaded an ruu yesterday the .exe. I will report in the am
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Epic. 10char
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The Shift now comes stock with Gingerbread from Sprint. There is no way to root it. You are SOL. I pulled all of my hair out when I figured this out.
Turns out Android (maybe not "Android", but the current ecosystem) sucks hard. Suckers like you and I come online and see threads and guides about rooting that simply won't ever work on our devices because they've been manufacturer updated. And sites like this don't seem to give a damn -- at least update the root "guide", mods.
Quite worthless. Don't fall for this BS. The Shift is again unrootable, just like almost all updated phones from Sprint. Chances are, with the devs having moved on or got lucky enough to have an old version of Android when they got theirs, all new ones will remain unrootable forever. #@(*$
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You need to take a breather my friend. The stock 2.3 will get rooted in time, just like the 2.2 did. "Unrootable forever" is just an ignorant statement. If all you're gonna do is rant and rave a bunch of misinformation, please keep the post to yourself.

Back on topic...
I have a shift and purchased the Epic for my wife.
The Epic display is nicer, and the epic actually feels lighter (and is?) Than my shift. It also has more keys on the keyboard.
However, on stock ROMs my shift seems faster and has better battery life. UI's are a very personal preference, but I much prefer the HTC sense and overall software stack vs Samsung's touchwiz. It just seems to work better.
I've beeen running custom ROMs on my shift and most of them work well. About ready to try a custom ROM on the Epic to see if it works better...
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curiousGeorge said:
The Shift now comes stock with Gingerbread from Sprint. There is no way to root it. You are SOL. I pulled all of my hair out when I figured this out.
Turns out Android (maybe not "Android", but the current ecosystem) sucks hard. Suckers like you and I come online and see threads and guides about rooting that simply won't ever work on our devices because they've been manufacturer updated. And sites like this don't seem to give a damn -- at least update the root "guide", mods.
Quite worthless. Don't fall for this BS. The Shift is again unrootable, just like almost all updated phones from Sprint. Chances are, with the devs having moved on or got lucky enough to have an old version of Android when they got theirs, all new ones will remain unrootable forever. #@(*$
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Yes, and man will never go to the moon. We will never be able to fly. Come on man .
PS. Don't knock the Site, or the Dev's. The work they do is because they want to, it's not an obligation.

after the samsung moment debacle i will never own another samsung phone. to me the epic is a moment on steroids. its still a POS lol. glad i switched to the shift

prboy1969 said:
Yes, and man will never go to the moon. We will never be able to fly. Come on man .
PS. Don't knock the Site, or the Dev's. The work they do is because they want to, it's not an obligation.
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+1
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ive been very happy with both my shift and the dev community here (who have turned me from an ignorant n00b-lout into a root-user) and all those who have helped me try and solve my problems.
As for rooting gingersense, it will happen soon enough, just give the devs here some time.

My wife has the Epic and I have the Shift 4G. I can't stand her phone, and she can't stand mine. Tho we both take our phone's off the charger in the morning and when we drive home, mine still is in the green where she has to use the car charger going home. Then again, neither of our phones are rooted. I have rooted her phone in the past, didn't seem to make much difference. Still running the crappy samsung software.

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My wife has the Epic and I have the Shift 4G. I can't stand her phone, and she can't stand mine. Tho we both take our phone's off the charger in the morning and when we drive home, mine still is in the green where she has to use the car charger going home. Then again, neither of our phones are rooted. I have rooted her phone in the past, didn't seem to make much difference. Still running the crappy samsung software.
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Rooting in and of itself isn't going to make a damn bit of difference in battery life. It's what you do with the root that counts... lol, sounds like a phallic joke gone bad...
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