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I've been looking at all the tablets being released at CES this year and its overwhelming. I was wondering if anyone had any input about what they think is the best one to buy. There's just to many to look at to choose.

The Motorola xoom
Pure honeycomb
Probably the best one as of right now.
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Alanrocks15 said:
The Motorola xoom
Pure honeycomb
Probably the best one as of right now.
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+1 Yup the xoom right now looks to be the best so far.

http://liliputing.com/2011/01/hands-on-with-the-asus-eee-slate-ep121-windows-tablet.html

The asus that can dock in a keyboard
Is the one I'm the most interested in.
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Trying to find more details on the LG that is coming to T-Mo, but the XOOM looks awesome with the Tegra2 and 10.1" display
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Ya but it looks like the xoom will be a little under $1000 which is way to much. I really like the blakcberry playbook but kinda better to have a blackberry phone with that
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moto xoom or any good honeycomb tablet, it can't $1000 because it has to compete with the ipad 2.

I currently have the Viewsonic G Tablet. Tegra2, front facing cam and lots of great developers making roms for it. The one drawback is the LCD screen which has a narrow viewing angle. I'm looking for the same hardware with an upgraded screen. Most announcements at CES centered on cpu and screen size so I need to wait for better info on the screen. I already own an iPad and the screens are really good, it's just all the other limitations that drove me away from it. The other thing that Apple does really well is battery life, I never even thought about the iPad battery, it was good for days and even a week on a charge. So my short list of requirements: Tegra2, FF cam, 10" IPS screen and good battery life.

I have the same requirements when I'm looking. I would even take a 7in tablet if it had the right specs. Right now I'm just waiting on more info about the G-Slate, hope that turns out to be a good one.

I really want more info on the 10 inch toshiba tablet. That is the one that caught my interest.
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The Xoom looks great but in a few months there's going to be a flurry of other devices that will be able to do 100% of what the Xoom can do. It only looks as good as it does because it's the only one with honeycomb "partially" working on it. The LG G Slate could be just as good, or who knows, maybe HTC will enter the tablet game. I would say Samsung but right now I'm not talking to them. They don't know how to treat paying customers.
The most innovative showing right now is the NotionInk Adam. It's hardware is almost identical to the Xoom, and it has that awesome Pixel Qi display (google this). It's shipping with 2.3 but the company promises a honeycomb update once the source is out. It has 2 full USB ports for peripherals or usb storage, a full HDMI port, 10 inch awesome screen, tegra 2, 1GB DDR2, 8GB onboard storage + MicroSD, Wifi or 3G models, camera that swivels 180 degrees, nice speakers, solid rubber rounded grip (have to see it to know what i'm talking about).
The reason I like this one so much is because it looks like they actually tried to make something new, where everyone else just had a knee jerk reaction to the ipads success and rushed to make an ipad clone.
The current gen iPad should still be at the top of most lists, because it's still really that good. And just wait until ver2.0 is released. We're in for some great geeky stuff.

SLG951 said:
I've been looking at all the tablets being released at CES this year and its overwhelming. I was wondering if anyone had any input about what they think is the best one to buy. There's just to many to look at to choose.
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I went to CES as press and saw probably at least 100+ tablets. Toshiba, Asus, and Visio had some nice ones. There were a few others such as Marvell, but hands down without a doubt the Moto Xoom killed it. My editor and I had a hands on interview with them on the Atrix and Xoom and have to say they absolutely nailed it. I have a Notion Ink Adam on order and cant wait for that, but the Xoom will probably be in my arsenal when it drops.
If your interested. Here is a quick hands on review at our site. I of course am taping and taking pics but I had plenty of time to actually check it out. Let me know if you have any questions about it, I might be able to share more from a hands on.

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If your interested. Here is a quick hands on review at our site.
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That was a nice read on your site.

Xoom got best in show not for nothing it will be amazing if they price it right and refrain from blur it with Motoblur and company.
One of the UK websites quotes the price at 719 quid, but as everyone said, they will have to do the competitive pricing to attract the customers from iPad2.

The Xoom is only going to be the best Android tablet until the 2nd honeycomb tablet comes out. I used to hate apple, but it's going to take more than a honeycomb video to sway me from getting that over the iPad2. Apple nailed it the first time, I can't imagine they couldn't nail it a second time.

Still haven't seen the charm of owing a overgrown phone? I rather use my computer/netbook/laptop

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Still haven't seen the charm of owing a overgrown phone? I rather use my computer/netbook/laptop
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Lol, I used to say the same thing. Tablets are really on a whole other level and they're here to stay.

Paging Dr B said:
Lol, I used to say the same thing. Tablets are really on a whole other level and they're here to stay.
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Agree, I can easily see that it will replace my aging laptop that I use purely for entertainment purposes.

People should really read more about Notion Ink - Adam's specs and review the custom software on it (Eden). I have been following them since last year's CES event and am actually surprised not seeing everybody (I mean eveeeeerybody) drool over it. It easily beats every other tablet.
Check it out:
1) official blog: http://notionink.wordpress.com/
2) official website: http://notionink.com/

[Q] How is Adam

Hi everyone,
I have read specs and I've watched hands on videos. (I like the choice of display -- paperback and normal and mouse pad at the bottom plus all those ports)
However I want to ask people who are actually using Adam (hopefully comparing with Galaxy tab 10.1):
1. How is touch screen?
2. How is performance (default Launcher and OS mods)
3. How good is display (paperback) to read books (and to work) in sunlight and how good is it normally?
4. Does is come unlocked? (no carrier restrictions?)
5. How easier is it to mod it? (I heard bootloader is pretty open and they are allowing all the development.) I currently own Samsung Epic 4g (cell phone) as much as I like the phone, I don't like Samsung's extra firmware making it nearly impossibly for devs to mod
6. Price point comparison.
And any other suggestions you may have to point

Mods: Please move thread to general discussion,
I was reading about development for Adam and started new thread without knowing that I'm starting it in development section

I am interested in the views as well.
With Samsung anouncing 8.9 and 10.1 inch tablets with similar or advanced hardware specs and the price point from what I hear is more competitive, this world is getting good.

Been using adam..and already put honeycomb on it..don't do the same mistake I've done.its heavy screen not good glare everywhere..take my advice don't buy adam. Now im saving, reading alot about transformer and waiting for samsung 10.1 (thin) .. will be out on june8.
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wis3m0nkey said:
Hi everyone,
I have read specs and I've watched hands on videos. (I like the choice of display -- paperback and normal and *mouse pad at the bottom plus all those ports)
However I want to ask people who are actually using Adam (hopefully comparing with Galaxy tab 10.1):
1. How is touch screen?
2. How is performance (default Launcher and OS mods)
3. How good is display (paperback) to read books (and to work) in sunlight and how good is it normally?
4. Does is come unlocked? (no carrier restrictions?)
5. How easier is it to mod it? (I heard bootloader is pretty open and they are allowing all the development.) I currently own Samsung Epic 4g (cell phone) as much as I like the phone, I don't like Samsung's extra firmware making it nearly impossibly for devs to mod
6. Price point comparison.
And any other suggestions you may have to point
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*It looks like you are reading older design specifications, that "touch pad" idea never made it to production.
1. Good
2. Good
3. It is not "paperback" or e-ink, but it is a PQi screen, IMHO excellent for outdoor use. It is a
trade-off" feature.. Viewing angles and vivid colors are not it's forte.
4. "3G" is dependent on the carrier's/ network frequency - In the US it's only compatible with AT&T..
5. It's open and came with NVFLASH capabilities since day one, hard to "brick".
6. Other "newer" devices in your local market may be more appealing.. (personal preference) YMMV
Hope that helps,

I had one, LCD 3g. Could not handle the very poor viewing angle of the LCD, was basically not usable in portrait mode and with no official honeycomb in the near future I sold it and bought an Acer A500.
It was a fair bit more expensive and no 3g, but I have never looked back.
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Mid July 2011 Android 3 should be out for the Adam!!!

Lectruck said:
Mid July 2011 Android 3 should be out for the Adam!!!
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Unfortunately being locked into AT&T freq's is a deal breaker for me.

Col.Kernel said:
Unfortunately being locked into AT&T freq's is a deal breaker for me.
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I thought it comes unlocked?
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It is unlocked but that doesn't mean all carriers are compatible.
I have no regrets buying adam. Extremely robust (may not have a metal shell but there is an aluminum chassis on the inside), virtualy impossible to brick, pixel qi is amazing provided you can do with less contrast than your lcd tv. I personaly love the swivel camera (fact that it swivels, I could do without the audible click from auto focus), the speakers are better than most laptops let alone other tablets. Could hold it all day due to the design. External ports galore. Plus comes with a dedicated community determined to make your experience with adam a better one, in lieu of a NI customer support. On that note it would seem they're making great strides in correcting this.
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I have a second Adam coming in a few weeks. The hardware is awesome. It may require software skills to unleash the power. The display is the deal breaker. I have it mounted on the HD for the relaxing trips off into the unknown.
Sent at light speed from the best! NI Adam!

My adam is nice, but I have no use for it. It is up for sale on ebay here http://cgi.ebay.com/Notion-Ink-Adam-Pixel-Qi-3G-/120737554657?pt=US_Tablets&hash=item1c1c84e0e1
The price is currently at $350 with one bid and one day to go. It is a pixel qi model with the att 3g bands.
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I have an pqi adam. I like the pqi screen. Even indoor, if you have bright light, the black and white mode is very high resolution, and looks great. I use it in bed with my lamp pointed at it and it is very easy on the eyes.
I am not a fan of android in general. The interface notion ink puts on might be good if you use it every day but I constantly thinking "ok, how do I do this again?" Maybe I'm just old. It does help with androids poor multitasking though.
Battery life was a lot worse on the adam than I thought. I can get 7.5 hours of constant use if I am in airplane mode and black-and white mode. I was hoping for 6 with everything on. Not so.
I am putting my hopes in linux for tegra (Alpha just release). The unity interface look promising. I think the thing that adam has going for it is it's so open. They make it very easy to try every software available and they give you the tools to do it.
I am happy with my adam but every time my wife pulls out her Ipad I think, for less money she has a sleeker design that always works and has not just apps you want but quality apps. That is my biggest peeve with android. Yes I can usually find what I want but the quality is so low I can't stand to use it.
About at&t, they have a reasonable tablet plan that I tried to sign up for it but it appeared to only be offered for Honeycomb tablets.
-Doug

I am putting my hopes in linux for tegra (Alpha just release). The unity interface look promising. I think the thing that adam has going for it is it's so open. They make it very easy to try every software available and they give you the tools to do it.
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Thanks for the tip, I'm ubuntu user I would love unity on tablet
And about apps I think it would need some time

KUDO's to Asus

I typically do not post raves, but this time I have to rave about the Transformer. This is what everyone that try's to do an android tablet should be making. I got the Gtab last fall and did all the moding to get a usable tablet. Worked pretty good I had to say. Until now. The TF is outstanding. I had the pleasure of quieting a couple friends with iPads on Friday. The TF tore through internet pages, video on Youtube and anything else they could challenge me with.
I have been a fan of Asus for awhile and will continue to praise their product.
FYI, buy from a reputable vendor and you wont have the headaches.

Yeah this thing is amazing. I remember watching a reviews before I ordered it, saying the back felt cheap because it had a strange pattern but it feels so nice, and of course, doesn't scratch!

+1 had to go show it to my old boss the ultimate apple product fanboy, he looked for a bit, then quickly found a reason not to talk to me anymore normally he would argue with me about how apple is far superior, there is no argument that really holds water in the ipad vs eeepad shootout

I completely agree. After I messed around with most tablets out there. (Xoom, Iconia, iPad 1 and 2, etc...) I finally settled on the TF and I do not regret a thing. I absolutely love the little guy. The transformer is easily my favorite tablet and product that I've purchased from ASUS.

Almost a year ago Asus was showing off that 12 inch win7 tablet/laptop/transformer, and I wanted it so bad back then...
Januari this year I bought the Toshiba Folio 100, and after modding it, it does work very well imo... But when I walked through a MediaMarkt XL store (just to look aroudn and play around with some stuff), I saw this transformer, and I knew I was going to buy it, but I wanted to make sure it really was what it looked like... so I read and watched a lot of reviews, and bought it the next day!
It's so nice that I even leave my 15" HP ProBook at home most of the time!
(The wallpaper is a live video wallpaper)

I have to agree on that.
The Transformer is a very well done and smartly design product.
Kudo's to asus !
The keyboard integration is so good that i'm using the tablet almost exclusivly with the dock.
It's light, easy to use, the trackpad is awesome, the connectivity is top notch and the battery life is....well it's basicly the longest battery life there is in any device. Want to use it all day long in your garden downloading movie, watching them and browsing internet while chatting with friend ? You can ! This thing just can't run out of juice !
Gratz Asus! Waiting for you to roll out Ice cream as soon as you can.

Same here, Kudos to Asus! I'm moving on close to 2 months since the release and couldn't be happier...no problems. And, oh so, glad I got the dock/keyboard that really makes it unique and above the rest.
And please with all the card slots, etc. it offers that others don't. Also, pretty impressed that they rolled out the new update in a timely fashion for 3.1, while it looks like other tablets were waiting.
Guess that's why it's reported Asus Transformer is best selling android tablet!
I'm a happy customer and use it every day, all day long most time with a great battery life between it and my keyboard.

I must say that I'm also very pleased with the TF101. There have been lots of other posts/threads which slam them for the light bleed, non-working issues, etc., but really, I think ASUS has done a great job considering that it's their first foray into Android, AND they come with a product that no one else offers (dock functionality). It takes a hell of a lot of QA to make sure that it's ready for production, and despite myself having to return a faulty dock, I also give Kudos to them.
In fact, as I was reporting on my faulty dock issue a while ago, I received a PM from ASUS themselves! They offered to exchange my complete setup for a brand new one (dock, tablet, cables, etc.), however I declined because everything is working great for me once exchanging my faulty dock at the store I purchased it from.
Getting that message and noting that ASUS themselves are watching these boards, as they know we have a great passion for 'pimping out' devices gives me another great feeling.
Has anyone else been in contact by ASUS on XDA?
Regardless, yes. Kudos to you ASUS!

I, too, love my Transformer plus dock. Mine has no light bleed, no creaking, no problems at all. And I'm a total n00b when it comes to Android, but by reading the manual and the helpful advice here and another forum, I've gotten most or all of my questions answered. If even a beginner like me can feel comfortable, Asus has hit it out of the park.

xTRICKYxx said:
Yeah this thing is amazing. I remember watching a reviews before I ordered it, saying the back felt cheap because it had a strange pattern but it feels so nice, and of course, doesn't scratch!
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Mine feels extremely solid, and well built...not sure where the reviewers are getting this unless they were stuck with some bad ones...
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garak0410 said:
Mine feels extremely solid, and well built...not sure where the reviewers are getting this unless they were stuck with some bad ones...
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Review units are usually from pre-production or 1st production runs, and almost always have disclaimers that they are pre-prodution run review units. It also explains some of the early units that appear on the market having some QA issues.
I have a B05 UK model, and have none of the problems mentioned, it's got fantastic build quality, and my Apple loving boss has last week sold his ipad2 and bought one too after seeing mine+dock.
The days of Apple ruling the roost are long gone, you can get better and cheaper buy buying non-Apple these days. My phone is a HTC that's WAY better than anything Apple make, my tablet is an Asus and ditto....

My tab definitely feels solid too. I don't get all the "cheap" complaints because mine has been just fine and dandy. I do have a little bit of light bleed but it's really only visible when the entire screen is black, and honestly, it's something I can overlook. Just a minor annoyance, and I'll take dealing with it given the price
<3 the TF!

Have to agree pretty much with all the previous posts here. Have read most all the other posts of complaints and honestly while some were bonafide issues I rather felt some were suffering from too high expectations. My TF is quite probably from the initial release go-round and pretty much has been fine. A few annoyances? Sure. The dock battery drain is troublesome as is the charger (email to Asus was NEVER even acknowledged sad to say) but hoping future software fixes will be forthcoming.
Overall, I'm pleased and impressed.

Baconstrip said:
My tab definitely feels solid too. I don't get all the "cheap" complaints because mine has been just fine and dandy. I do have a little bit of light bleed but it's really only visible when the entire screen is black, and honestly, it's something I can overlook. Just a minor annoyance, and I'll take dealing with it given the price
<3 the TF!
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well I can't tell if I have any light bleeding... I've ran several dead pixel and light bleeding test programs and all of the colors of 100 percent solid. My settings screen and my browser bookmark page look like they have light bleed but several people have told me that is by design.
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I am very satisfied as well. I also have the keyboard version and it's not only usefull when writing longer texts (e.g. emails) but it gives the extra boost in battery life which is very welcomed!

I'm definitely not selling mine!
I'm thrilled with almost everything about it.
I also own an iPad and can comment without bias. The TF is better in nearly every way (especially the OS). The one area I think the iPad wins is the structural strength. It just feels tougher. I do like the really simple design but unfortunately apple let that spill over into every facet of the device.
TF for the win (especially with prime! 1.5)

Not untill this has netflix,hulu plus, words with friends honeycomb edition and potrait frame rate fix honeycomb tabs would never be an iPad killer

bboyle said:
I typically do not post raves, but this time I have to rave about the Transformer. This is what everyone that try's to do an android tablet should be making. I got the Gtab last fall and did all the moding to get a usable tablet. Worked pretty good I had to say. Until now. The TF is outstanding. I had the pleasure of quieting a couple friends with iPads on Friday. The TF tore through internet pages, video on Youtube and anything else they could challenge me with.
I have been a fan of Asus for awhile and will continue to praise their product.
FYI, buy from a reputable vendor and you wont have the headaches.
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My cousin, a huge apple fan boy, talked trash about my tablet for a while. Then he came over the shoot pool with me yesterday, and he saw my tablet with the keyboard dock, and he was like on nice you got a new netbook? I guess your tablet was not enough.
I told him this is my tablet and then showed him how it works, he was like Sh!t, why cant apple do cool stuff like that!!
"Android" steals the best stuff, and improves on it" I had to laugh at him.
Brandon

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Not untill this has netflix,hulu plus, words with friends honeycomb edition and potrait frame rate fix honeycomb tabs would never be an iPad killer
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To each their own! Plenty of people could care less about those apps and don't even miss them when they're gone.

dan-htc-touch said:
+1 had to go show it to my old boss the ultimate apple product fanboy, he looked for a bit, then quickly found a reason not to talk to me anymore normally he would argue with me about how apple is far superior, there is no argument that really holds water in the ipad vs eeepad shootout
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Reality check.
Rational arguments favoring the iPad 2 would include build quality, form factor (half as thick and also lighter), resale value, screen quality (brighter at max, dimmer at min, less reflective), performance (iPad's PowerVR crushes Tegra 2, no problems with 720p h.264 and iOS 5 has no problems even with 1080p h.264 whereas my TF cannot currently decode 720p acceptably, negating for me the advantage of the 16:10 screen). Also consider O/S maturity and reliability (most obviously the default Honeycomb launcher+browser are junk although ADW+Opera are much better, if buggy), the development tools (the Android emulator in particular is laughable - the iPad emulator in XCode is literally ~100x faster), app selection (Netflix an obvious example, there are thousands more), app quality (same app on both platforms is almost always inferior on TF) - in fact I don't see Android app performance ever approaching iOS here on similar hardware due to the overhead imposed by the Dalvik VM. Also, iTunes movies, TV shows, audiobooks etc. are one click away (although you have to pay for them vs torrents/Handbrake etc). Maybe if I had I non-rooted non-wifi-only Xoom I could try Google movies - I wouldn't known since I have an Asus TF and it has not been white-listed yet (BTW this kind of will-it-install/run/work roulette would not fly on the iTunes store). AirPlay, AirPrint and Home Sharing also 'Just Works.'.
I guess none of these arguments 'hold water' to you but if Google, OEMs like Asus and users rationalize away these things I think you can pretty much kiss this platform goodbye.
... which would be unfortunate because the Transformer's advantages are not insignificant - for $100 less (32GB vs 32GB) I get the MicroSD slot (plus SD with the dock) which gives me 64gb swappable storage in addition to the 32gb onboard (vs 64gb total on iPad), Apple's 'walled garden' is breached so I can install 3rd party keyboards, cloud-based music players, launchers, widgets etc. I also don't have to worry about Apple yanking the Kindle app etc for not paying the tithe etc.

new to me Xoom.....wow

I have owned several android tablets. I received my xoom from an eBay auction on Saturday...a 4g model. I spent about two hours getting the unlocked boot loader route and CWM. I then installed the EOS ROM.
I have spent the last couple hours customizing the device getting this software that I wanted on it.
Based on the four hours I have spent with the device all I can say is......WOW.
I purchased on of the first Android tablets...the white pos from China. In fact, i may have had one of the first android tablet specific groups....Slatedroid was spawned from a google group I started.
I say this to say....I've been in this space from the beginning....I know a good tablet when I see one. I boughT and rooted a nook color. Solid but slow I bought the woot gtab...surprisingly slow. They've always been nice...kind of fun....but never really a mainstay for me. I have a convertible tablet PC and I always went back to that, even for basic consumption. I researched tablets for about 4 months this time before i finally pulled the trigger on the xoom. it seems like this Xoom might actually work.
The browsing performance of chrome is fantastic...not much latency at all.
The responsiveness of the Xoom overall is great.
The price put it at a solid value...and I have the option of 4g when I want. It didn't break the bank, so when the next gen stuff comes out I can give this to my wife.
So far...I love this thing. I'm on it all the time...and that's the true test isn't it.
I really don't know how it could be improved...ics is solid...
I'm pumped !
Cheers!
Matt

Damn right! Dude try cornerstone....this thing is like a really sexy PC with it.....such a great value!
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Good choice my friend! Welcome to the Dark Side -

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I have owned several android tablets. I received my xoom from an eBay auction on Saturday...a 4g model. I spent about two hours getting the unlocked boot loader route and CWM. I then installed the EOS ROM.
I have spent the last couple hours customizing the device getting this software that I wanted on it.
Based on the four hours I have spent with the device all I can say is......WOW.
I purchased on of the first Android tablets...the white pos from China. In fact, i may have had one of the first android tablet specific groups....Slatedroid was spawned from a google group I started.
I say this to say....I've been in this space from the beginning....I know a good tablet when I see one. I boughT and rooted a nook color. Solid but slow I bought the woot gtab...surprisingly slow. They've always been nice...kind of fun....but never really a mainstay for me. I have a convertible tablet PC and I always went back to that, even for basic consumption. I researched tablets for about 4 months this time before i finally pulled the trigger on the xoom. it seems like this Xoom might actually work.
The browsing performance of chrome is fantastic...not much latency at all.
The responsiveness of the Xoom overall is great.
The price put it at a solid value...and I have the option of 4g when I want. It didn't break the bank, so when the next gen stuff comes out I can give this to my wife.
So far...I love this thing. I'm on it all the time...and that's the true test isn't it.
I really don't know how it could be improved...ics is solid...
I'm pumped !
Cheers!
Matt
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You are so right...Xoom is still the best overall tablet. With EOS and ICS 4.0.4 there is none better. I have been using mine constantly for a year and I have no immediate plans to replace it. It just keeps getting better, with the best developers around.

to bad chrome does not support flash otherwise it would be an awesome browser

So what are ya'lls opinions on new units coming down the pipe with higher resolution and better processors.
Personally after looking at the new retina display of an ipad 3rd gen all day, I find it difficult to go back to my Xoom.

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So what are ya'lls opinions on new units coming down the pipe with higher resolution and better processors.
Personally after looking at the new retina display of an ipad 3rd gen all day, I find it difficult to go back to my Xoom.
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Yes...I'm waiting for the hi-res....uber-core...units to come out. But Apple will never get my money. I don't want to discuss that here.
That's why I bought this Xoom used...to save some scratch, and cred with the wife, so I can get the latest and greatest in the fall.

My wife is getting tired of my hand-me-downs. She swears she's taking the next upgrade.
cwizardtx said:
So what are ya'lls opinions on new units coming down the pipe with higher resolution and better processors.
Personally after looking at the new retina display of an ipad 3rd gen all day, I find it difficult to go back to my Xoom.
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Ugh. There's always gotta be one in the crowd . Yes, Motorola could have invested more in our displays. And I would have paid more for some IPS love. It is what it is...

That white pos from China wouldn't happen to be the Huawei s7 would it? Lol, that was my first tablet back in '10.

bigrushdog said:
My wife is getting tired of my hand-me-downs. She swears she's taking the next upgrade.
Ugh. There's always gotta be one in the crowd . Yes, Motorola could have invested more in our displays. And I would have paid more for some IPS love. It is what it is...
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My Samsung E4GT has a"dynamic" screen setting that literally burns my retinas...I have to leave it on standard, lol. I love my Xoom screen...seems more natural, not so aggressive. And I'm a painter so I love me some colors! Go figure.

bigrushdog said:
My wife is getting tired of my hand-me-downs. She swears she's taking the next upgrade.
Ugh. There's always gotta be one in the crowd . Yes, Motorola could have invested more in our displays. And I would have paid more for some IPS love. It is what it is...
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One what. I loved my Xoom from the day I bought it but its outdated now. Even on the android side of things, there are tablets coming out/out with higher resolution displays and more power under the hood.
I still use my Xoom, it's on my night stand as an alarm clock

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One what.
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An Apple fan an an Android board lol
I loved my Xoom from the day I bought it but its outdated now. Even on the android side of things, there are tablets coming out/out with higher resolution displays and more power under the hood.
I still use my Xoom, it's on my night stand as an alarm clock
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Ive been disappointed so far. The TF Prime is a epic letdown. I mean really, where is this mystery super Android tablet hiding? Besides a Xoom running eos

Final Question,Should we buy nexus 10 or not!

So after going thru many reviews here's what i have come across
1)Slow charging
2)Lil lags-I guess(Note sure)
3)Not many apps
So final question are you people still buying it?
Benchmarks have improved in todays update

2 weeks ago I was all on board
.Now I am taking the wait and see approach before spending.Once enough get the tablets where you can see for sure what works/don't work I will make a decision.I really want it to be great as I am buying a tablet for home use but it is going to have to do the things I want or no deal.

Wait unless you have to have one now.
There's a high probability of Sammy offering similar tablet of their own - before or @ CES. One with same rez, a dock, microSD, stylus etc. That would be a killer tablet 4 sure. I am sure their contract with goog stipulates they can not announce de-facto competitor to N10 for some time.
For the life of me I dont understand what is in it for Sammy, when it comes down to N10. They already are a well known and #1 vendor... just dont understand it.
They could have had a much higher profit margin on a $600 killer tablet of their own and could have moved a billion of them w/o any assistance from cupertino, TouchWiz and all...

Well i already told my Uncle in USA to order one for me, Due to the shortage of time

rashid11 said:
There's a high probability of Sammy offering similar tablet of their own - before or @ CES. One with same rez, a dock, microSD, stylus etc. That would be a killer tablet 4 sure. I am sure their contract with goog stipulates they can not announce de-facto competitor to N10 for some time
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Google said the reason for no micro SD is because it is so difficult to get it working right with multiple users that will be added to Android 4.2, so aftermarket tablets probably wont have a microSD either or they will not support multiple users.
You would also have a locked bootloader that first has to be cracked, non-existent or very late kernel source, and probably late ROM source. The Nexus is a much better choice IMO than waiting for a hopeful model that may or may not even end up with the features you want

dont worry about the "not many apps" thing. "retina-like" display is becoming the standard, so apps will support it.
I might or might not get it. But Im not ordering it. I will wait for walmart and more reviews.

theserpent said:
So after going thru many reviews here's what i have come across
1)Slow charging
2)Lil lags-I guess(Note sure)
3)Not many apps
So final question are you people still buying it?
Benchmarks have improved in todays update
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It's up to you... no one can make that decision for you. For me, I didn't need to see much after the first handful of reviews, I was convinced then. Having Miracast will be nice, if and when it comes, but if not I already have a superb quality HDMI to Micro (read: NOT Mini) HDMI cable which I'll use to play movies on my HDTV. My use of the device for magazine reading, book reading, web browsing, game playing, and YouTube watching more than justifies the price in my book. But my uses for the device may not be the same as another person's, hence why this is a personal decision. Again, you should decide rather than asking others to convince you.

I ordered one today. I don't see either of the things you mentioned as a deal breaker for me.
The battery will be sufficient that I won't need to change and use it.
Haven't seen much lag in any video reviews. Any mention of it is probably an application issue or something that will be fixed in the os in the worst case scenario. Based on specs, lag shouldn't be a problem for this device.
It all comes down to what you want. If you want a 10" android tablet, I would get this. If you want something better, I'm sure something will be released eventually.

I've heard there are plans for a tablet clocked at 3GHz in 2019, might be worth waiting for that.
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Kookas said:
I've heard there are plans for a tablet clocked at 3GHz in 2019, might be worth waiting for that.
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No way really? Definitely going to hold out for it.

Dude wait. In 2020 there will be a octacore 3.5ghz version that shoots lasers, projects holograms, and goes to work for you. In all seriousness though l ordered it.

I have no clue if my Uncle ordered it or not

Is it in STOCK??? when will the restock ittttttt

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Wait unless you have to have one now.
There's a high probability of Sammy offering similar tablet of their own - before or @ CES. One with same rez, a dock, microSD, stylus etc. That would be a killer tablet 4 sure. I am sure their contract with goog stipulates they can not announce de-facto competitor to N10 for some time.
For the life of me I dont understand what is in it for Sammy, when it comes down to N10. They already are a well known and #1 vendor... just dont understand it.
They could have had a much higher profit margin on a $600 killer tablet of their own and could have moved a billion of them w/o any assistance from cupertino, TouchWiz and all...
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The Wacom S-Pen will not be available on any high resolution tablet in the immediate future. Wacom does not support the higher pixel density displays unfortunately.

I say get it ^_^
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The Wacom S-Pen will not be available on any high resolution tablet in the immediate future. Wacom does not support the higher pixel density displays unfortunately.
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That would make sense when thinking of the Gnote 10.1's measly 1280x800 display.

I don't regret one second I ordered It and love it. I have the 10.1 and just took back the nexus 7. Worth every penny!!!! My only complaint and very minor at that. Which can be fixed with a custom ROM which I plan on doing but my laptop broke, is the placement of the soft keys. Why on earth would they place them in the center on a 10" amazes me lol. But one outstanding performing tablet!!! If you wait you'll regret it,
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i think i will
I think i will order it through uncle in US .. only one thing which pulls me back is unavailability of warranty/support in India..

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The Wacom S-Pen will not be available on any high resolution tablet in the immediate future. Wacom does not support the higher pixel density displays unfortunately.
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But the Note has a ppi close to the N10, 285? why wouldn't it support the resolution?

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But the Note has a ppi close to the N10, 285? why wouldn't it support the resolution?
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I'm sure they can support higher PPI. I think it's just the cost that's setting them back. Just imagine what the Note 10.1 must have costed if it did have a 1080p screen.