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Notion ink thoughts after CES

I was really interested in this tablet but after seeing all those beautiful tablets that are going to come out soon. Notion ink looks Like a last year tablet because of the size of its bedazzled. I'm happy that I didn't preorder this device.
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Kartiel said:
I was really interested in this tablet but after seeing all those beautiful tablets that are going to come out soon. Notion ink looks Like a last year tablet because of the size of its bedazzled. I'm happy that I didn't preorder this device.
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Cool, got any links to any tablets in CES that have PixelQi screens? Or perhaps at least IPS? I would especially be interested in a 7" platform.
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Pixelqi show their new 7 inch screen..I don't see the big deal about it. If you want a tablet to read outdoor just get a cheap ebook reader
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I had never heard of notion ink before CES. I for one was really surprised at how unique this tablet was compared to all the others. It had to be one of the hottest "if not the hottest" tablet at CES. I heard there was a lot of hype about it and i can see why. I didnt get to hold it but it was very impressive. The PixelQi screen was also very impressive, i think im most impressed with the battery life it offers and the fact that when in a bright room or outside with bright sunlight its crystal clear compared to an ipad that is super reflective and not readable at all in direct sunlight. Overall i was very impressed and plan on purchasing one.

Kartiel said:
I was really interested in this tablet but after seeing all those beautiful tablets that are going to come out soon. Notion ink looks Like a last year tablet because of the size of its bedazzled. I'm happy that I didn't preorder this device.
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all those other tablets won't be out for months either, my adam ships out next week. its hardly a "last year tablet"....maybe you need to look at the specs again.

seasapart said:
I had never heard of notion ink before CES. I for one was really surprised at how unique this tablet was compared to all the others. It had to be one of the hottest "if not the hottest" tablet at CES. I heard there was a lot of hype about it and i can see why. I didnt get to hold it but it was very impressive. The PixelQi screen was also very impressive, i think im most impressed with the battery life it offers and the fact that when in a bright room or outside with bright sunlight its crystal clear compared to an ipad that is super reflective and not readable at all in direct sunlight. Overall i was very impressed and plan on purchasing one.
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160 hours use with the backlight off on the PixleQi units.. And not an eink or ereader, static black and white screen. It's in color, allows for motion and videos..
Why would I want to buy, own, carry around several devices, when I can own/carry one that does it all..
It has Bluetooth and GPS, 10.1" GPS, Internet, social, MP3, Youtube/HD Video player, on your DASH!
Oh and it is real and available now... Not just a prototype or just an idea, like those shown at this year's CES.
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Spec wise the only one that might give the Adam a run for its money is the Motorola Xoom, but thats debatable. Especially when you consider that the Adam is shipping, its pre-order was sold out, had the swivel camera, and the Pixel Qi display. It also has a customize OS Android 2.3 with a UI overlay that simply looks and runs smoother than Google's own 3.0 Honeycomb.
Which by the way was announced but still not yet available in any tablet. Even the Xoom. No one at CES was allowed to play with it and see the Honeycomb OS in action on the tablet. So basically its not yet available. Plus No price mentioned and certainly no availability date announced makes the Xoom or any other tablet at CES unavailable for some time except the Adam.
With the Motorola Xoom being tied into a carrier, I rather have the Adam tethered to my EVO and be able to go outside with it and still surf, read play games etc.
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Agreed
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And NI is going to open its SDK for developers...with the hardware they have put togather, just imagine the possibilities if the SDK is available, i liked concepts behind Eden but one can always put a honeycomb on it..its open and thats what matter...

Agreed and Notion Ink has already said they are going to keep updating eden and put honeycomb on the tablet when it comes out. Also Notion Ink is focused on the adam because its their only product at the moment.

the device looked very sturdy imo. i was one of them who preorder and i cant wait to get it into my hands and start install applications on it . i actually need it as a e-reader for pdf documents also

Agreed, its a future proof device .... look at the complete specs and comparison with ipad ... you will get some idea
http://techicloud.blogspot.com/search/label/Notion Ink
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i just wish i could order one of these. im basically up in the air of ordering one of these or the xoom. depends which one comes available first at this time.

bluelt1ss said:
i just wish i could order one of these. im basically up in the air of ordering one of these or the xoom. depends which one comes available first at this time.
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i think a lot of people are in the same boat...xoom or adam. just have to way the pros and cons

clockcycle said:
Cool, got any links to any tablets in CES that have PixelQi screens? Or perhaps at least IPS? I would especially be interested in a 7" platform.
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Asus Eee Pad tablets will have IPS screens. Memo is 7-incher.
http://www.droidsector.com/devices/...er,asus-eee-pad-transformer,asus-eee-pad-memo

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bluelt1ss said:
i just wish i could order one of these. im basically up in the air of ordering one of these or the xoom. depends which one comes available first at this time.
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I think alot of people will have thier mind made up for them when the prices for the xoom are published. Based on what I've read online, I'm actually getting 2 adams (LCD with 3G) for the price of 1 Xoom. Assuming they do ship them soon...
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Since the Adam seems to be highly hackable and it'll be more or less officially supported to hack the tablet as opposed to the Motorola one, who are notorious for locking their devices down to an insane degree (See: Milestone (2) Droid 2, Droid X and so on. And I'm pretty sure the Tegra theoretically supports the same "High Security" mode the TI chips have, it's just not used yet), this isn't really a question for me. Go with the good guys that let me "own" my device.

bluelt1ss said:
i just wish i could order one of these. im basically up in the air of ordering one of these or the xoom. depends which one comes available first at this time.
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Listen, I'm not a fan boy of anything. I'm just an honest person. What makes a device good is not only the hardware but also the community following it. Notion ink has had people drooling over the Adam for nearly 3 years. The CEO actually answers many of my emails and takes into consideration what the public wants. Awesome company and I believe there will be lots of great things to come.
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If it's not too much to ask - what was the price on the Adam?

Here you go...
* Adam Tablet with LCD display and WiFi for $375
* Adam Tablet with LCD display and 3G (and WiFi) for $425
* Adam Tablet with Pixel Qi display and WiFi for $499
* Adam Tablet with Pixel Qi display, 3G and WiFi for $549
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The ipad has nothing on the xoom and honeycomb.

I have had an ipad since release. We have used it for school, presentations, documents, email, etc. I can already say it is nothing compared to the xoom.
I've had it less than a day, and I have run into a few quirks. The ipad did too, like wifi dropping on me constantly on release. Anyhow, just sitting here chatting with a friend, browsing the market, internet, xda, etc, I can't help but notice how much better it is than my ipad. Quickly swapping between apps, voice input, etc. I can plug it into the TV and instantly show my wife an article I've found.
Sure the apps aren't there yet, but they will be. The quirks will be fixed, and it can only get better. For all the "I'm taking it back" threads I just don't get it. I'm hooked.
This is the tablet I was looking for.
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i envy you. I originally was going to wait for the xoom but i got impatient and bought an ipad. Then xoom came out and i sold my ipad and bought it. First day amazed, second annoyed. Im getting ALOT of keyboard lag and I need a good pdf reader. The ones for the phone are not cutting it. Tried ez and repligo both lag like crazy.
Definitely returning this for the xoom for ipad 2. Ipad 2 will be my placeholder until Honeycomb gets more apps and bugs fixed.

iPad has nothing over the Xoom? Really? Not even a better screen (I would take IPS and much much better viewing angles and color reproduction over higher resolution)? Lighter weight? Thinner body? Better, more diverse accessories? And that's not even mentioning the better app store at launch which you just handwaved away but a lot of us consider to be pretty important.
It's one thing to be a fan of the Xoom (which I am). I'll even admit that I do have an anti-Apple bias and that I'll probably never purchase an Apple product. But it's another to completely toss all objectivity out the window and just become a cheerleader for a product that so obviously isn't perfect.
It's not as if the benefits I listed above are limited to Apple. Samsung's new Honeycomb tablet is taking care of 3, potentially 4, things from that list. It'll have a lighter weight than even the iPad 2, a thinner body than even the iPad 1 and Xoom, all while having pretty much the same internals as the Xoom. It also might have a better screen (still looking into this). And the delayed release of the product after the release of the SDK means launch customers will have a lot more apps available to them.
Liking a device doesn't mean you have to be blind to it's shortcomings.
EDIT: I just noticed that most of my recent posts are criticisms of the Xoom and I want to clarify. I'm not trying to bash the product. I just think we should be holding Honeycomb tablet makers to, at the bare minimum, the standards that Apple has set with its wildly successful iPad. Clearly that's being done with some factors. Xoom has more connectivity options, a higher resolution screen, an OS that's better suited for tablet work and productivity, etc. But it's obviously not being done with others, especially screen quality which is a huge HUGE deal with tablets, and I don't think Honeycomb tablet manufacturers should get a pass on that.

You plug your tablet into a tv to show her an article?

I own both as well and I love the potential here but wouldn't say that the I pad 1 has nothing on the xoom. The screen is better as mentioned before. Colors and viewing angles. Also overall OS smoothness. The ipad is silky smooth everywhere. The Xoom is smooth sometime then it gets choppy. Right now that is my biggest disappointment. I mean functionally it is fine the the chop gets a little annoying tbh.
On the ipad for example I neverrrrr had a case of music coming in and out while I surfed the web or download files using filer. On this device I randomly get delays in sound when I perform other tasks. Like ashura3 mentioned not to hate on the xoom after all I actually have one and I am going to keep it for sure but being objective the ipad is pretty slick in what it actually does. And insult to injury google and Motorola have had alot of time to look at what apple did before shipping this device. We are comparing the almost 1 year old device on top of that all the early reports and videos I watched and read about yesterday on the ipad show an extremely fast polished ipad2.
I understand its limited in certain aspect but take like functions or apps and compare how the work and objectively it is hard to say the I pad has nothing on the xoom.

ashura3 said:
It also might have a better screen (still looking into this). And the delayed release of the product after the release of the SDK means launch customers will have a lot more apps available to them.
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If I supply is correct the display is a 16bit tft. That would explain the differences I see when looking at the two and comparing the IPS 32bit display on the ipad. All the other downsides of the Xoom can be easily addressed but like the lack of SD or 4g upgrade on the ipad, there is no way the xoom screen will be as nice unfortunately. It isn't a terrible screen but there is a difference and it is pretty obvious to everyone I nave showed both devices to.

But the iPad 2 has a magnetic dust cover!!!!
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I have an ipad and just got the Xoom. The Xoom is certainly a nice device, I don't think the screen is so bad but it isn't IPS.
I think Motorola blew it big time although I hope they do succeed. They should have released the wifi version before Apple announced the ipad 2 event. As a consumer that just wants a wifi tablet, are you really going to spend $800 on a Xoom or $500 (less for a ipad 1) for a ipad? Even if both are the same price, how many people do you think are going to buy the Xoom over an ipad? Let's hope the Xoom does better than the Zune.
The whole user experience of the Xoom isn't nearly as good as what iOS offers. I'm keeping my Xoom as I would rather have Android than Apple (sd slot, usb and I like the file system better for my field work). If Apple had released a 2x res screen with sd slot as some rumors had mentioned, I would have stuck with iOS.
Long term, Android has a good shot but I don't see the Xoom making a dent getting Apple's market share. The cost, hardware and software don't surpass the Apple user experience. There is no compelling reason to switch from iOS or choose Android unless you're a fan of the platform.
I don't have an iphone nor a Mac so no fanboy here but you can't beat the ipod and the ipad is getting to be just as iconic. Jha has done a good job but I think he completely underestimates what Apple is in the market to think that the Xoom is going to compete against the ipad at the same cost.

google voice... the ipad has it...

Ehhhh.... this is what were supposed to do. Early adopters are basically testers, if you guys see anything you don't like, email google and suggest them. You guys are doing a great job of testing out the device. Also, in order for android tablet apps to increase in numbers fast, there's gotta be customers for developers to sell to right? I purchased a xoom to fill my needs, it does get laggy sometimes but it isnt such a dealbreaker to me right now. Looking at the I pad 1 or 2 it doesn't matter. It's still the same ****ty grids of icons from page to page. But I,too, really think motorola should just release the damn wifi version before the I pad 2 takes a whole bunch of customers.
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My emphasis was more on the software experience rather than hardware. I don't see how iOS is going to hold its own once Honeycomb has its kinks worked out. The user experience is just that superior to the iOS grid of icons.
The xoom isn't that special for hardware. Every few months something faster or thinner or brighter is going to come along, but I don't see Apple drastically changing their operating system anytime soon and I think Honeycomb itself is going to be the real threat.
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Sirchuk said:
My emphasis was more on the software experience rather than hardware...
The xoom isn't that special for hardware... but I don't see Apple drastically changing their operating system anytime soon and I think Honeycomb itself is going to be the real threat.
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AMEN to that! I was just thinking that this morning... This isn't really a "war" between Apple and non-Apple. It's about user experience, needs etc. Since hardware is always obsolete the moment you leave the store (or click check out) the software is the main determinant. Unfortunately, it looks bad right now for HC. But the more I see users post their homescreens with all the wild widgets and customization going on the more I feel "home". I LOVE the apps on the iPad and the screen (I'm playing with a coworker's iPad today) but the user experience is reminiscent of my iPhone...

Just out of curiousity, does anyone know what the Frequency Response is on the Xoom, I can't find it listed anywhere in the specifications. I know its listed for the iPad. I would like to know what it is on the Xoom though.
Anyone?

Being an owner of both, I have to say that the iPad has the luxury of being on the market for a whole year. Last April, iPad was in the same position as a Xoom is today with the uncertainty, bugs and the like. Compairing to Xoom today, its not really in that bad of a position. My Xoom has already replaced my ipad and I'm super excited to see where this thing can go.

I've had my Xoom since launch, and have not had a single issue of lag, or sound problems. Everything has ran very smoothly... Not a android or apple fanboy, I've used them all, i just like the notification system and widgets on honeycomb much better than the ipad.

So, Engadget say's Eee Pad is better than Xoom

I guess the IPS Screen, Keyboard Dock, and 100$ - Price was enough to warrant it being "the best honeycomb tablet to date"
http://www.engadget.com/2011/04/18/asus-eee-pad-transformer-uk-edition-review/
really Engadget?

You tell me why can't eeepad better than xoom? I bought my xoom last week, and I still love it . But I really can't deny that eeepad is better, at least its screen and hardware design. I hate the volume button, power button on my xoom.
P/s: price comparison isnt big deal for me cause I bought my new xoom 32gb wifi version only $530^^
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I just read that review and must admit that it struck me as a little odd. They make more of the screen than the software quirks that they appear to be experiencing with it.
My experience with the xoom is not too bad but there are certainly some things that need to be improved. Mostly software and a honeycomb update would be good. The screen is certainly not terrible and it seems at least on a par with the iPad 2 that my wife has.

s.t.s said:
I just read that review and must admit that it struck me as a little odd. They make more of the screen than the software quirks that they appear to be experiencing with it.
My experience with the xoom is not too bad but there are certainly some things that need to be improved. Mostly software and a honeycomb update would be good. The screen is certainly not terrible and it seems at least on a par with the iPad 2 that my wife has.
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I agree with you. Get software improvement is more important. I just wait for next honeycomb update, and my xoom will blow I-tampon away ^^
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This thing is way to big for me! Looks giant next to the xoom. It's obviously not all about thinness and weight.

rjoudrey said:
This thing is way to big for me! Looks giant next to the xoom. It's obviously not all about thinness and weight.
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Well the xoom is slightly heavier, but agree on the size. The eeePad Transformer looks to be over an inch longer and wider, making it just past the 'comfort' dimensions. For example, I can grasp the xoom in portrait mode with one hand; I wouldn't be able to do that with the transformer. This means that the xoom is superior for my needs until the Samsung 8.9 tab comes out...

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Well the xoom is slightly heavier, but agree on the size. The eeePad Transformer looks to be over an inch longer and wider, making it just past the 'comfort' dimensions. For example, I can grasp the xoom in portrait mode with one hand; I wouldn't be able to do that with the transformer. This means that the xoom is superior for my needs until the Samsung 8.9 tab comes out...
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Actually, because the bezel is larger, it looks like it makes it easier to grasp with one hand (haven't tried it, could be wrong).
I find the Xoom slightly difficult to hold in one hand after holding it up for some time because I can't grip it in as far as I like without touching the visible screen.

pure Google experience means faster updates. No thanks ASUS

shouldn't that say "engadget says the eee pad is better than the xoom based on their wonky criteria"? I've got to say, I don't really put much stock in the engadget reviews - ever since they gave the ipad2 a 9 and the xoom a 7 or a 6 or whatever they gave it. They seem to lionize the ability to consume content and summed up their review with "Overall, what attracts us to the Transformer over the Xoom is ASUS' intelligent button and camera placement". I've never had a problem with the xoom camera, but that's just me. Of course, it makes sense when you think about their jobs - they aren't quite journalists, aren't freelancers, and are all in their 20s. When you have real work to do your criteria markedly change.
when i compare my xoom to my iphone 4 I like the xoom a lot more and frankly, that's all that really matters: what i think about it.

rmmorse81 said:
pure Google experience means faster updates. No thanks ASUS
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The Asus is a pretty pure machine - contrary to rumours and speculation you may have read, it is not "skinned" and does not have a customised UI.
The only extras are Polaris Office, a DNLA WiFi network browser/player , some widgets and a screencap function (long press on "History") - Oh, they have also got a working Card Slot.
None of the above should prevent it getting fast updates.
It's taken Motorola a few months not to get their card slot working although they do blame Google.

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The Asus is a pretty pure machine - contrary to rumours and speculation you may have read, it is not "skinned" and does not have a customised UI.
The only extras are Polaris Office, a DNLA WiFi network browser/player , some widgets and a screencap function (long press on "History") - Oh, they have also got a working Card Slot.
None of the above should prevent it getting fast updates.
It's taken Motorola a few months not to get their card slot working although they do blame Google.
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Point taken. My bad

One item that is important to me that the Asus doesn't have is dual band wifi.

i recently got my wifi xoom the hardware is what sold me on it feels solid and clean I'm staying with my xoom because I feel motorola will support us

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Exactly. +1000 to you good sir. This is what I keep saying a s well. As an owner of a Motorola Xoom I know I will get updates before ANY Honeycomb'd device that is skinned. It's just like the Nexus line of phones. They got Gingerbread before anyone else (and still have it until a DEV bakes it into their ROM).
Pure Google Experience FTW. Everyday of the week.

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One item that is important to me that the Asus doesn't have is dual band wifi.
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This is very important. How can Asus leave out such an important part of a WiFi device. Dual Band is NEEDED for a WiFi only device

kelvie said:
Actually, because the bezel is larger, it looks like it makes it easier to grasp with one hand (haven't tried it, could be wrong).
I find the Xoom slightly difficult to hold in one hand after holding it up for some time because I can't grip it in as far as I like without touching the visible screen.
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Sorry bigger is never better. At least when it comes to tablets.

i meant grasping like palming a basketball.

I think I would still go with the xoom. I am more confident in motorola's build quality than asus. Moreover, the xoom is pure google and should quickly get updates. I see the asus as more geared towards the asian market with its cheaper price, but probably worse support (at least that has been my experience with the tiawainese computer companies).
Having said that every android 3.0 device that comes out increases the install base and therefore pressure for google to release more updates for android and hopefully more tablet apps.
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Who cares about Engadget anyway? Their "reviews" are hardly reviews and only seems to be a bashing contest everything non-apple.

htc6500uk said:
The Asus is a pretty pure machine - contrary to rumours and speculation you may have read, it is not "skinned" and does not have a customised UI.
The only extras are Polaris Office, a DNLA WiFi network browser/player , some widgets and a screencap function (long press on "History") - Oh, they have also got a working Card Slot.
None of the above should prevent it getting fast updates.
It's taken Motorola a few months not to get their card slot working although they do blame Google.
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Actually the Xoom has working SD card. (thanks Tiamat 1.3.1) In my experience, DLNA has been a pain, and most manufacturer software additions are pointless. that said, I haven't played with the Asus, but I would be willing to bet there is not much value added by those apps.
Im sure someone else has/will point this out, just had to say it.

Anyone considering the Toshiba Thrive?

There's some info on Endgadget and the specs don't look too shabby, is anyone considering this machine?
Toshiba didn't exactly jump into the tablet market head first, but now that it's come clean with the Thrive, its first pad for the US market, it's wasting no time -- we just got some hands-on with the 10.1-inch, Android 3.1-powered slate -- which, by the by, is the first that we know of to sport a removable battery. It's also got a few more rarities: full-sized USB and HDMI ports and a full-sized SDHC / SDXC slot. Oh, and its $429 starting price ain't bad either. So was Toshiba's entry into the world of Android tablets worth the wait? Join us for a tour past the break, and decide for yourself.
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http://www.engadget.com/2011/06/07/toshiba-thrive-hands-on/

This does seem like a fully loaded device but I think compared to the portability of the Tab 10.1, it will soon become annoying. I think I'm going to stick with the Tab 10.1 and purchase the adapters for USB/HDMI. I'd only need to carry them on 5% of my journeys anyway.

Yes, I'm interested. 1.6 lbs is like the Ipad 1 tablet and the reviewer states that its really not that bad. Ports are important, and the user removable battery is a real plus. Thickness is a bummer, but over all, the tablet looks like a real contender

this WAS the 1 i really wanted but when i saw it had more bulk than my xoom i've decide to go with the 10.1, but i would take this over the xoom.

The location of the cameras is ODD. Seems like it would be difficult to hold and not obscure the cameras.

I like that you can change the battery but me personally I don't need all those ports. If I have to have all that I may as well get a laptop or netbook. Also I'm not keen on that chrome around the camera. It's petty but I also like looks when it comes to my devices

It just moved up to number one on my list just waiting to see what HTC comes out with with in a 10.1 tablet
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No.
1. I hate that silver / chrome plate around the camera. It is too distracting, look cheap and ugly. I cannot stand it, period.
2. It is too bulky and heavy. I don't need all those ports, especially because I will use it rarely.
3. I don't need replaceable battery. From my experience, even after a year or two, the lithium battery is still good. And by that time, I have upgraded to a new device anyway. I know, it is a plus to have replaceable battery, but if it adds to the weight and bulkiness (because of the mechanic or whatnot), then I don't want it!
GTab 10.1 is still my number one choice ... IF I can buy one

I like what I've seen. I was following this for a few months, but scratched it off due to the Tab 10.1. Now I've written off the tab 10.1 I think, because it just leaks cheap. I'll reserve my final judgement until I see some reviews.
I'm sorta curious what the odds of being able to install Windows 8 on it might be. It appears to be the same exact design as one of Toshiba's upcoming Windows 8 tablets they showed at Computex, just with a different processor. I'm not excited about Tegra 2... but..... if it's really that bad, that is why they have return policies. A Dual boot Android / Windows 8 tablet might be a serious case of Winning!
Oh, I also am looking forward to see what HTC is bringing to the table as well. I don't want to count them out.

I am the one considering the Toshiba Thrive as well.
Yeah the Thrive is thick and heavy with the chrome camera and rubber back that sound odd, but the fact that the Galaxy Tab 10.1 has no SD card and USB slot turns me off, it seems like Samsung is going to rip us off with accessories that I have seen in the youtube video shown in another thread, so Samsung learned styling and ways of money making from Apple huh?
Full size USB, HDMI and SD card port, plus attractive pricing and the Toshiba brand outweight the clumsy look. Hope XDA will have the Thrive forums soon.

bbeelzebub said:
Now I've written off the tab 10.1 I think, because it just leaks cheap. I'll reserve my final judgement until I see some reviews.
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Definitely worth reserving your final judgement because the reviews that I have read all pretty much say how premium the quality of the 10.1 is compared to what they expected before they saw it in person. I didn't bookmark all the reviews I read so can't seem to find them all but Engadget wrote:
"It's a tremendous thing to hold, and it truly oozes quality from corner to corner".
http://www.engadget.com/2011/06/08/samsung-galaxy-tab-10-1-review/
Personally, I don't think it looks that cheap but like you, I am also reserving my final judgement until I see it in the flesh.

No XDA forum - No buy!
It's very simple, I like the device and want to get one. But with no XDA forum (yet), I'll have to wait. I do like to try out custom rom's, etc., as well as the practical uses. Right now I have an LG G-Slate, and with no XDA forum I can't do anything (other than rooting). So, if one is interested in simply "using" a device, then the Thrive looks excellent except for its bulk. For those of us who want to do more - we'll need an XDA forum.

Looks like a cool tablet. Had it come out a month earlier, I might have bought it.
These guys releasing Honeycomb tablets in July, August, and September just feel like they are a bit late to the game.

Ravynmagi said:
Looks like a cool tablet. Had it come out a month earlier, I might have bought it.
These guys releasing Honeycomb tablets in July, August, and September just feel like they are a bit late to the game.
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That makes total sense. So I take it you only buy your devices briefly after a new OS is introduced? How old is your Windows/Apple desktop/laptop?

akarol said:
That makes total sense. So I take it you only buy your devices briefly after a new OS is introduced? How old is your Windows/Apple desktop/laptop?
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With laptops/desktops, I can update the OS whenever I wish. I'm not dependent on the hardware manufacture to make a custom OS for my computer. So tablets are very different from a laptop or desktop. Though I do know people that do hold off laptop/desktop purchases if a new OS release is near, to avoid having to buy an upgraded OS later.
I love Android, but 3.0 and 3.1 have not been that good. It was a rush job and the source code was never even released. And hardware manufactures already proven they are very slow with major OS release updates. With the hope that Android 4.0 will unify the phone/tablet OS and includes major improvements to stability, compatibility, and fragmentation...
Personally I think there probably is a line in the sand somewhere where a person should ask themselves, do I really want to get into an Android 3.x tablet now with 4.0 coming soon?
I'm not sure I made a good decision getting my GT 10.1 back on June 17th (really nice hardware though). It is really going to suck if I'm still rocking Android 3.crap in 2012. Really hope that doesn't happen, but I have no idea.

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This does seem like a fully loaded device but I think compared to the portability of the Tab 10.1, it will soon become annoying. I think I'm going to stick with the Tab 10.1 and purchase the adapters for USB/HDMI. I'd only need to carry them on 5% of my journeys anyway.
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I totally agree.
By looking at the photos, it seems as though the rear camera does not include a flash.

I went with the GT 10.1. LOL I got tired of waiting and I didn't like that the Toshiba doesn't have Gorilla Glass, is a lil' heavy and apparently just uses a regular LCD screen with some sort of software to make it crisper and brighter.... The GT has such a nice screen, I couldn't resist. It also feels so light in hand.
Still, different strokes for different folks. I'm sure the Toshiba has nice things about it too... like the ports. Still... I like weight of the GT sooooooo much.

I was seriously considering waiting for the thrive since its almost 100 bucks apart, you could get a 8g, plug in a 16g SD and in the end beat the 10.1 in memory.
But then I thought real hard about what I needed a tablet for. I have a NB at home and at workplace, and if I needed to do stuff that needed serious computing, I would choose the NB over any tablet even if it was quad-core.
The reason I need (or, want) a tablet is for portability, acccessibility to games, video, web surfing and data/email checking. I dont see how often I will cry over that lack of ports, if ever at all. and ports and price are probably the only things that toshiba has an edge over the 10.1. Once I decided that I really dont need the ports (especially you can get the usb dongle for $20 for the rare occasions that you need the port), it was a no brainer decision.
I would think that the Thrive buyers would have to use usb host a lot in order to feel better about the decision over 10.1. Otherwise, everytime you browse the web, watch videos, read papers, or play games on 10.1, it's just hard to think that there's a alternative attractive choice.

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It's very simple, I like the device and want to get one. But with no XDA forum (yet), I'll have to wait. I do like to try out custom rom's, etc., as well as the practical uses. Right now I have an LG G-Slate, and with no XDA forum I can't do anything (other than rooting). So, if one is interested in simply "using" a device, then the Thrive looks excellent except for its bulk. For those of us who want to do more - we'll need an XDA forum.
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Here is a Thrive forum for you. Its not XDA but a good one never the less
http://www.thriveforums.org/forum/forum.php
If I just wanted to have a usb port or SD slot just once in a great while, than the Thrive is a winner. The comments that the thrive is clunky and heavy is way off base. Its been reported by reviewers that the weight is not heavy and feels good holding it. By the way, the Transformer 2 has been reported today to be coming out this October with Tegra 3, the new OS and goodness who knows what other upgrades. Some thing to consider as well

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Here is a Thrive forum for you. Its not XDA but a good one never the less
http://www.thriveforums.org/forum/forum.php
If I just wanted to have a usb port or SD slot just once in a great while, than the Thrive is a winner. The comments that the thrive is clunky and heavy is way off base. Its been reported by reviewers that the weight is not heavy and feels good holding it. By the way, the Transformer 2 has been reported today to be coming out this October with Tegra 3, the new OS and goodness who knows what other upgrades. Some thing to consider as well
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The Thrive is 1.6 pounds. My Acer was 1.7 pounds, and it felt a lot heavier than my Tab 10.1
I can now surf the web with one hand, unlike the Acer. The Thrive will definitely feel heavier than the Tab 10.1
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What other tablets look good?

I have not yet bought the xoom. But it is the leader in the group of four that I am looking at. I am not sure how I will use the tablet to be honest, so I want the one with the most features possible and the best apps. I am a software engineer, so I can "get it to work", but would prefer something nice out of the box.
Hardware wish list: GPS, Bluetooth, Wifi, 3G, HDMI, USB, SD card, good battery list, replaceable battery.
Software wish list: Napster, Netflix, great video player, good flash rendering, ease of data transfer.
Accessories wish list: nice integrated docking/keyboard if possible.
What do you think about any of these models
1) Motorola Xoom
2) Toshiba Thrive
3) Lenova thinkpad, ideapad
4) asus eee transformer

imo you make choice between:
xoom
samsung
ipad
you will not get everything,eg,ipad has best apps but no microsd and high cost.
xoom has microsd but not that much apps as ipad do have.

i hear great things about the Thrive. it would be my choice if i didnt own a xoom. The Iconia is pretty nice too.

If I didn't own the Xoom I'd own a Transformer. Assuming I didn't need the data. Hands on experience with both.

consider this in your comparison as it looks good
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1273078

If I were buying today, I'd checkout the Lenovo Thinkpad Android Tablet as it has a stylus for handwriting. They also make an Ideapad model which is more consumer oriented.

balaams_ass, what do you mean by
Assuming I didn't need the data.
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??

thebrenda said:
balaams_ass, what do you mean by ??
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it is with reference to internal storage and micro sd card slot

rohit3192 said:
it is with reference to internal storage and micro sd card slot
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I think it's in reference to the Xoom and the iPad both having Wireless Network Carrier support. Whereas I believe the Thrive and the Transformer are both Wifi only.

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If I were buying today, I'd checkout the Lenovo Thinkpad Android Tablet as it has a stylus for handwriting. They also make an Ideapad model which is more consumer oriented.
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reviews about their ideapad say it sucks as hell and very buggy, i guess there will be no difference with the thinkpad, i am glad i didn't get the ideapad

I would have to say if I wasn't that into Motorola, I would go with Samsung and their Galaxy Tab 10.1. It has a sleek design, is thin, light weight, and a good choice in my opinion. It has a weaker camera because of the redesign to make it slimmer and lighter than before, but still is a rockin' good Honeycomb tablet no doubt!

>What other tablets look good?
The ones coming next month, alongside ICS release.
Example: The Toshiba Excite (AT200), follow-up of Thrive, is thinnest tablet, with micro-USB/SD/HDMI.
If you need one now, then buy it now. Otherwise, it's close to the start of the next product cycle. Not good to buy old toys just as new toys are about to be released.

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balaams_ass, what do you mean by ??
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data plan - most don't have 3G or 4G hardware; only WIFI

Sony for style. then it's just the xoom
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Sony for style. then it's just the xoom
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....my thoughts exactly

I had the Thrive. It was awful. Hardware failure within the first day.
Overall even when I had the chance to use it (for 45 minutes) It wasnt super responsive. I couldnt care less about the ports and the size was not natural for a tablet.
Im glad I went to the XOOM. Better build quality all around and it just feels like a solid tablet with solid features (and support in the future).
Galaxy was nice but no SD if I remember correctly. And no ports. Screen was nice but it actually looked a little too bright (if thats possible)
The IdeaPad I played with was supper buggy and laggy - and its build quality disappointed me for a Lenovo product - way too much flex. Flex is a concern for me considering what these machines are meant to do on a day to day basis.
All in all its best to just play with them. I went to best buy and went to town on all of the tablets. Good luck!

Iv had the thrive, advent vega and now the XOOM the wife owns an ipad 2. I hated the thrive the day I got it im big on the latest tech and always move with the times and the thrive was like a step backwards laggy and buggy as hell. The vega is awesome for the price and has honeycomb when rooted and all the ports you cood need however screen quality and looks ect are nothing compared to my XOOM its a top quality product. I tested a galaxy tab 10.1 that I got sent to review and would say that they have made a lot of sacrifices for the slimness. As for the wifes iPad2 its like Apple still own it when you buy it ahha
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I think the Sony Tablet S looks pretty good, and the unique style is growing on me a lot. Of all the reviews I've read of it they all say the shape gives it a better 'feel' in terms of just having it in your hands and carrying it around.
Second place? I don't care what anybody says, the Xoom is a sexy beast. It has the best screen ratio IMO and edge to screen proportion. No front buttons is awesome and kind of underrated. It looks somewhere between "tough and functional" and "sleek".
Happy spendings!

I had an Iconia tab, and if gps is important, avoid it, as it's only A-GPS. You have to be connected to wifi to get a lock, which wasn't working all that well for me. I picked up a Xoom and haven't looked back. One thing that impressed me was the build quality. The Xoom feels so well built its not even funny. I think that this thing could take a bullet, it feels that solid.
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