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Claims of WP7 from Tom_Codon march 2010

Well were coming up to to the month milestone of when Tom dropped the news of having WP7 running on his HD2.
I know I will get flamed for this, but I am niave and a part of me still despite no real proof being given, is hoping.
It would be great if we got some news/proof at the end of this month.
Seg

da_g and chainfire have stated this exists....
that's plenty of proof in my book imho

please people, let it go....nobody was gonna get wp7 on the hd2 before the news and so there is no difference if it was all a lie...
that said, i do belive in it, reputable people have said its true. just enjoy the damn device and when wp7 comes, it will come, and i would like to see a thread with all the non belivers apologising

I know some good reputable ppl have clearly stated that its true. I am not doubting them for a minute. I personally expected to hear or see something else since the initial statement. I do enjoy my device, I just love trying new things.
The conversation surrounding this, had died a little lately, so I thought I would spark up some more interesting conversation/debate.
Seg

Seg2009 said:
I know some good reputable ppl have clearly stated that its true. I am not doubting them for a minute. I personally expected to hear or see something else since the initial statement. I do enjoy my device, I just love trying new things.
The conversation surrounding this, had died a little lately, so I thought I would spark up some more interesting conversation/debate.
Seg
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Thats my oppinion.. but seems there is nothing you can do besides wait.
Cheers

chris5932 said:
Thats my oppinion.. but seems there is nothing you can do besides wait.
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I know mate. Thats the hardest part, waiting. Even more so, with no more information.
Seg

Seg2009 said:
I know mate. Thats the hardest part, waiting. Even more so, with no more information.
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I do feel the same way, totaly
It's in a way like christmas when I was young besides.. you knew when it would be
// I btw don't think this is leading us anywhere..

But thats just it, how can you EXPECT something from somebody when they dont owe you anything? you can expect customer service from HTC, or expect an official statement from HTC about wp7 (which we got), but you cant expect news about someones personal project...you arent paying them, they are doing it out the kindness of the heart and the passion they have for this phone...
well thats my opinion for example...i fix my friend's and family's computers from time to time for no charge. nobody can expect me to fix it in any reasonable time frame, nor even even expect it to be fixed at all, even if i say i can. if they do, then its really unnappretiative and its quite hurtful. alot of people did ***** about the videos of wp7 on the hd2, if it was me, i wouldnt even bother giving it to anyone, just on the fact that so many people grinded me down about it.

domineus said:
da_g and chainfire have stated this exists....
that's plenty of proof in my book imho
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I know that there is written record of da_g saying that. Is there one for Chainfire also? I thought that was just an unrecorded chat.

the_cool said:
But thats just it, how can you EXPECT something from somebody when they dont owe you anything? you can expect customer service from HTC, or expect an official statement from HTC about wp7 (which we got), but you cant expect news about someones personal project...you arent paying them, they are doing it out the kindness of the heart and the passion they have for this phone...
well thats my opinion for example...i fix my friend's and family's computers from time to time for no charge. nobody can expect me to fix it in any reasonable time frame, nor even even expect it to be fixed at all, even if i say i can. if they do, then its really unnappretiative and its quite hurtful. alot of people did ***** about the videos of wp7 on the hd2, if it was me, i wouldnt even bother giving it to anyone, just on the fact that so many people grinded me down about it.
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I think you have mis-interpreted my use of the the word "Expected" by this I meant "Hoped" or "Thought"
I do agree with you though, they don't owe us anything, and after the slagging off that some guys gave them, I would say F off to everyone.
Seg

ah ok, well yeh one can hope for it, thats all good! even i hope for it! well actually i dunno, when they said wp6 and wm6.5 isnt interchangeable made me decide not to go with wp7. but still, id love to see it! but even if they lied (which i keep stressing i dont think they are!), i wouldnt think less of them, none of us are really gettin affected and we have got alot from them anyway with wm6.5

ozkaya said:
I know that there is written record of da_g saying that. Is there one for Chainfire also? I thought that was just an unrecorded chat.
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yeah I asked him last week in a podcast he visited on ppcgeeks...said a lot including a test rom for tg01 which also makes a lot of sense. I've said on htcpedia that I wouldn't be surprised the devices we see in the fall are very similar to devices released LAST year with minor improvements in hardware (if that)
If the htc touch hd2 and the g01 were the true test devices that wp7 was based on, then as a developer I'd just go hey why do I need to make a new device? Use the old internals and I have a wp7 device. I think for early devices that's what is going to happen but again that's just my speculation on htc and toshiba. Dell et al probably have devices built from the ground up...
I mean I want to try wp7 too and its looking better and more fluid every single day that gives me hope that microsoft has made a better "coded" os that when unlocked will actually be more open than the devices we have right now. To get to that point will take time, but that's what xda is for. I mean zune hd is hacked, I expect wp7 to be hacked too. just depends on time and devices
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hoping this conversation remains civil because so far no flames no claims of it was publicity and I said on htcpedia again why does a site like that need publicity it averages in US daytime 250 members per hour! late night 125! a site like that doesn't need real advertising.
We can't say its an april fool either that's come and gone. so the only other logical outcome is that it exists there are some issues (lo and behold tom said there were graphics issues)
so I am waiting enjoying wp 6.5

Does anyone actually know Tom or Da_G or ITJE? Could they ask them for an update? Anything is better than nothing.
Seg

Seg2009 said:
Does anyone actually know Tom or Da_G or ITJE? Could they ask them for an update? Anything is better than nothing.
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I asked Itje a while ago, he doesn't know anything and told me that it is all up to tom and his team.
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chris5932 said:
I asked Itje a while ago, he doesn't know anything and told me that it is all up to tom and his team.
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I sent tom a message through pedia site, but he never got back to me, but there again, why would he? he doesn't know me from Adam.
Seg

Seg2009 said:
I sent tom a message through pedia site, but he never got back to me, but there again, why would he? he doesn't know me from Adam.
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I don't think your the only one who did so, myb hes still working down the list
Tom is the guy this is about.. no information from him or his team -> no information at all.. thats what is seems to be like
Since I don't know anyone to talk to him or one of his team members close, we can only wait and any disscusion is senseless.
Cheers

I just don't see the draw towards WM7. I stopped using the iPhone because the locked down environment... even after jailbreaking. WM6.5 w/ Sense is the BEST OS and GUI that I've used on a phone. It has usability elements while retaining the functionality of WM. It seems to me that M$ is moving backwards.

invalid_character said:
I just don't see the draw towards WM7. I stopped using the iPhone because the locked down environment... even after jailbreaking. WM6.5 w/ Sense is the BEST OS and GUI that I've used on a phone. It has usability elements while retaining the functionality of WM. It seems to me that M$ is moving backwards.
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Im with you 100% on that statement. I feel like M$ is turning into Apple.

I don't understand why you are talking like this actually..
Sure, WP7 is locked down OS with many disadvantages, I agree with that!
BUT it brings lots of new features and its going to have full flash support etc.
it's not all bad.. basically this whole thing is not part of this discussion!
This is about WP7 on hd2 which was claimed to be real by tom.
Cheers

Apart from the HD2 WP7 exists/doesn't exist...
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I don't get why there isn't any news from tom_codon or any other people and why they aren't releasing it..
Sincerely, I'm not understanding why tom_codon gave the news of WP7 on HD2.
I mean... okay, WP7 HD2 ROM does exist, noone apart tom_codon and some other people has got it, but why are you saying to all that it does exist if you can't/don't want to release it?
It's not so mature and smart in a community where all is shared and that lives on the ROM sharing to say "I've got WP7! But you won't get it! Hah!!"........ am I wrong?

SPB Mobile Shell 5.0

Watch this :
http://blog.laptopmag.com/spb-mobil...on-an-android-interface-we-love#axzz12FwD59YD
Seriously, we NEED this launcher on HD2 to make it the best phone ever, since SPB Mobile Shell will be available on Android AND WinMo. It's not about to be leaked before a very long time, but I hope this thread will be dug out by early 2011.

They, SPB, have been talking about V5 since Feb 2010. They said it was to be released to OEM/Dealers this month. Go to their forums and see how they BS everyone. SPB is very poor in support. Beleive it when you have it on your phone.

It was released to device manufacturers about a week ago. Its finished. They are not BSing anybody. It looks awesome... a major step up from 3.5! And yes, the new version is available for android also!
Sent from my HTC HD2 using XDA App

Other than a few improvements to widgets it looks pretty much the same as the 3.5 version I've already got on my phone.

Actually I cant wait for spb Mobile Shell to be released on Android. Most people who use Mobile Shell for windows Mobile knows about my ProPlus themes and I want to be able to bring ProPlus to Android aswell.
I just hope it will be available for public sale though as spb seem to only be releasing 5.0 to Manufactureres and Carriers.
Mark.

zarathustrax said:
It was released to device manufacturers about a week ago. Its finished. They are not BSing anybody. It looks awesome... a major step up from 3.5! And yes, the new version is available for android also!
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So, when do you think it will be available from SPB for us to DnI?

asctony said:
So, when do you think it will be available from SPB for us to DnI?
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Did you not read my post? It might never be available to download if they only ship it to carriers and manufacturers to put in new phones only.
Mark.

when the folders open like the favorite contacts it opens like the ui in ios 4 folders

"...SPB Mobile Shell 5.0, which works on Android, Symbian, and Windows Mobile devices. Unfortunately, this is not something you can download. SPB is targeting OEMs and carriers to deploy this software."
That kind of sucks because iv'e been following the development of 5.0 for a long time now and WAS excited. Knowing this, however, kind of bumbed me out. Guess i figured it'd be a quick update from 3.5 or maybe another full payment to download it.
Didn't figure i'd have to get a new phone..although, if this U.I. comes with the new phones, i'd feel a bit dupped...seeing that theirs came free with the phone but we dished out cash for ours.

Let's just hope there will be a leak before 2011.

mskip said:
Did you not read my post? It might never be available to download if they only ship it to carriers and manufacturers to put in new phones only.
Mark.
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Yes, I read your post. I have also read 1,000s of others about this subject. Been on SPB forums, too. Did Google searches, too. You Tube, too. So?
Did you read my post? I said the same thing that is was going out to OEMs.
Was just hoping that someone would know if and when and how it will be released other than OEM, carriers and/or manufactures.

asctony said:
Yes, I read your post. I have also read 1,000s of others about this subject. Been on SPB forums, too. Did Google searches, too. You Tube, too. So?
Did you read my post? I said the same thing that is was going out to OEMs.
Was just hoping that someone would know if and when and how it will be released other than OEM, carriers and/or manufactures.
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Isn't it just to port it from another release?
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mskip said:
Actually I cant wait for spb Mobile Shell to be released on Android. Most people who use Mobile Shell for windows Mobile knows about my ProPlus themes and I want to be able to bring ProPlus to Android aswell.
I just hope it will be available for public sale though as spb seem to only be releasing 5.0 to Manufactureres and Carriers.
Mark.
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Yeah I hope so to, would look great and having used SPB before, it would be amazing, it does look good though from the screen shots seem! Just hope they release it to the public as you've stated.

asctony said:
Yes, I read your post. I have also read 1,000s of others about this subject. Been on SPB forums, too. Did Google searches, too. You Tube, too. So?
Did you read my post? I said the same thing that is was going out to OEMs.
Was just hoping that someone would know if and when and how it will be released other than OEM, carriers and/or manufactures.
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Its not going to be available to anyone other than OEM's as they are releasing it in kit form for the carriers to add their own finishing touches. There was a post in the Spb Mobile Shell forum on the 7th which you actually replied to. If it does get ripped out of a phone then unfortunately it wont be available on xda as im sure it will be a licensed package and therefore considered warez.
Mark.

mskip said:
Its not going to be available to anyone other than OEM's as they are releasing it in kit form for the carriers to add their own finishing touches. There was a post in the Spb Mobile Shell forum on the 7th which you actually replied to. If it does get ripped out of a phone then unfortunately it wont be available on xda as im sure it will be a licensed package and therefore considered warez.
Mark.
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Well that answers my question. But lets say Samsung release "samsung forlifeordie SPB5.0" and then devs port that samsung build to lets say HTC almostsameassamsungbutnot. Now is this still not suitable for xda? Still "warez" ?
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norpan111 said:
Well that answers my question. But lets say Samsung release "samsung forlifeordie SPB5.0" and then devs port that samsung build to lets say HTC almostsameassamsungbutnot. Now is this still not suitable for xda? Still "warez" ?
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Yes I think so. If you extracted something out of that ROM that others have to pay for, then it is still "warez". It's not opensource.
Correct me if I'm wrong please.

mskip said:
Its not going to be available to anyone other than OEM's as they are releasing it in kit form for the carriers to add their own finishing touches. There was a post in the Spb Mobile Shell forum on the 7th which you actually replied to. If it does get ripped out of a phone then unfortunately it wont be available on xda as im sure it will be a licensed package and therefore considered warez.
Mark.
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Maybe not, after all, it's not even proposed for sale to the customers, only manufacturers. I mean, HTC has not been making an issue about the use of Sense running on other phones it wasn't supposed to, right?

Beretta93 said:
Maybe not, after all, it's not even proposed for sale to the customers, only manufacturers. I mean, HTC has not been making an issue about the use of Sense running on other phones it wasn't supposed to, right?
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that really depends on the company's attitude toward it. HTC seems to be treating the Sense thing the same way adobe treats it.
if you download it illegally, and use it long enough, you will get hooked and want to buy it.
i mean, how many people upgraded to a native sense android phone. after using sense on their g1's

I agree that this should be treated like ROMs with Sense. Since it's not available for the public to buy, it's shouldn't be considered warez.

If it won't be on xda it'll be on some other page who cares.. What SPB does is not customer friendly they hyped it long time ago and now again and tell us that we probably won't get it.. pff we will get it for sure

Why is HTC protecting wildfire so much

After the release of the wildfire it took a unusual amount of time to root and now the hboot has been changed to prevent rooting I ask the question why the consumer should have the right to run roms that suits them best I refer to geohotz jailbreak with the iPhone
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To sell newer products, thats why.

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To sell newer products, thats why.
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yeah i agree, they want to sell you newer devices with new android versions. they must also be pretty mad about the hacked app markets

Its the solemn duty p) of a company to protect its products. No product I believe has a weak security system, and, its always a cat and mouse game between the devs and the company devs. Be it iOS, Symbian, Game Consoles.. etc.
No one likes to see their product "hacked" and to be used in a manner better than it was intended to.

As far as I know the Nokia N900 and LiMo devices are very open to hacking, very much unlike Android, webOS and iOS phones.

Why would anyone protect their properties

Also maybe cos they were planning for Gingerbread release on the Wildfire, and by then they want all devices to be hackproof or something.. jus maybe..

It's to keep idiots out.
Look around the forum and look at the amount of "OMG I BRICKD DAT WILDFIRE CUZ I FLASHED TEH ROMS PLZ HALP" posts.
Apple always try to find a way against jailbreaking aswell.

Alex_GP said:
To sell newer products, thats why.
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Anyone who posts a reason other than this is very naive.

I'll give you a reason.. It's because their support teams couldn't cope with the amount of idiots they'd get phoning them saying that their phone wasn't working anymore after they'd made a complete bodge of modding it.. Just like the guy above said..
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Anyone who posts a reason other than this is very naive.
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Exactly, their cash flows in from the devices they sell. If they support old products, they won`t sell new devices, so no cash.

Skye Menjou said:
It's to keep idiots out.
Look around the forum and look at the amount of "OMG I BRICKD DAT WILDFIRE CUZ I FLASHED TEH ROMS PLZ HALP" posts.
Apple always try to find a way against jailbreaking aswell.
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Fair point.

but they knows that if device is such superb, someone sometime find the way to get in...
its all about offer and demand..
and yes - every year new toy.. forget to previous and go forward...
thats the consume way of life.

Alex_GP said:
To sell newer products, thats why.
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I think so...

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Second that.

People really ought to make sure they know what they are a\doing before they start messing around with technology and if they don't then they should leave it, the amount of posts i've seen on here about bricked wildfires is unreal

Petem661 said:
People really ought to make sure they know what they are a\doing before they start messing around with technology and if they don't then they should leave it, the amount of posts i've seen on here about bricked wildfires is unreal
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But if they wouldn't lock the wildfire, the chance of getting your device bricked will be lower in my oppinion. The chance that a procedure fails is directly correlated with the amount of steps, and just because the phone is that locked, people have to do 1. a multitude of steps that 2. don't use software of the phone in the way its develloped to be used -> chance to brick your phone.
Compare it to a computer: ever bricked it because you wanted to install an new OS?
Erwin

That is true
Now, I want to change the phone, because I can't flash rom.
I think HD2 is a good.

HTC is not protecting wildfire so much.
They just want to check, how good team UNREVOKED is.
Or if they are better than similar product cracking team -> greenpois0n on apple iphone 4.2.1.

Me and my HTC:Wildfire "bee" xD trust in you UNREVOKED!
Is there any idea to downgrade?

Petition to bring WP7 to HD2 officially

Do you guys know anything about it?
http://www.petitionspot.com/petitions/hd2windowsphone7
I think we could assign it, even knowing Microsoft's position about it. It's free...

Signed, even if i don't think this will really be useful

Cero92 said:
Signed, even if i don't think this will really be useful
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I signed to but ..i dont think its something

Good luck with that.

Cero92 said:
Signed, even if i don't think this will really be useful
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I don't think it will get in somewhere... but, let's try. Microsoft has announced and I don't think they will backward just because of this. Whatever...

What the hell, signed!

Signed not that it will do any good even if the do get 10000 Sign up

^^
I don't think they'll do anything about it (even with 10000 signs) either...
But still SIGNED!!!!!!!! (worth trying right?)

Anything is worth a go.
Signed.

signed also!

sabo2000 said:
What the hell, signed!
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lol me too

Signed, I hope this encourages them to do an official release lol

never going to happen in a million years!
MS might consider such an action as it doesnt bother them much, but do you honestly thing OEMs will support its decision, they would go ape. Adding support to the HD2 would directly hit sales of their native WP7 devices, yes yes we all know that the HD7 is pretty much the same, but its money that talks, not pertitions, sorry folks but unless the various CEOS of all the OEMS out there start smoking dope, donate all their profit for a year to charity and give all HD2 owners a HD7 for the sake of it, its not going to happen.

Let's stop this nonsense
It is a waste of time

Take care!
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Well lets just hope
never never know MS could consider,,just never know......

Signed anyway...
Sent from my HD7 T9292 using XDA Windows Phone 7 App

I hope HTC gives us WP7 on HD2
signed. sincerely hope it to work.

signed with pleasure.....
but who will buy the HD7 later on, specially now the HD7 market value dropped after the DFT big bang...
my personal point that this leaked DFT youtube movie, is nothing but the tool to bargain HTC and M$ for a good share in their next projects.
as our VIP developer julien schapman did...with M$ after his big bang...
where is the OLD XDA Spirit...

signed
well no harm trying

WM7 on Atrix?

I've searched, but haven't yet found a solution. Is there any way of getting Windows Mobile 7 Mango on the Atrix?

Yes. Pull out the guts of your atrix and put the guts of a focus in there. FINISH HIM!!!
I voided my warranty and your mum.

Well that certainly made me laugh

the android market has a windows 7 launcher you cld use i tried it out b4 and it wrks good i just dont like windows here is the link
https://market.android.com/details?id=info.tikuwarez.launcher3&feature=search_result

no
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I've searched, but haven't yet found a solution. Is there any way of getting Windows Mobile 7 Mango on the Atrix?
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Optical Serenity said:
I've searched, but haven't yet found a solution. Is there any way of getting Windows Mobile 7 Mango on the Atrix?
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Can I ask seriously why would you want to go from open source to so locked down you can't even wipe your butt without bill gates' permission??? My son has a wm7 phone and there is absolutely crap apps, no true personalization options (ringtones, themes). Android is the future, that's why apple and Microsoft are trying to stop google in court.
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pukemon said:
Yes. Pull out the guts of your atrix and put the guts of a focus in there. FINISH HIM!!!
I voided my warranty and your mum.
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Or the quantum. Lol
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AFAIK the only non-WP7 phone to run WP7 is the HTC HD2, and I belive thats because of similarities with the HD7. It wont run on the Atrix. Ever.

Not one person on this forum would Ever put WP7 on this phone. So asking is slightly funny to say the least. No one who owns an Android would go through the hassle of putting dated crap software on their fast running Android Phone. It would be like Apple coming out and saying Hey by the way we are going to load all of our computers with Windows Vista from now on lmao.

pre4speed said:
Can I ask seriously why would you want to go from open source to so locked down you can't even wipe your butt without bill gates' permission??? My son has a wm7 phone and there is absolutely crap apps, no true personalization options (ringtones, themes). Android is the future, that's why apple and Microsoft are trying to stop google in court.
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Huh? Since when was MS trying to stop Android?
http://gizmodo.com/5845047/microsoft-gets-444-million-a-year-from-android-patents-says-analysts
Think at this point, Android is to Microsoft as Halo/Gears is to Microsoft..... one massive cash cow.

My Dell Venue Pro runs nearly just as smooth and fast as my OC Atrix. I know WP7 will never run on this (and I don't want it to), but it's not that bad really and yes you can load ringtones and notifications thru Zune but it's a pain. Given all the money Microsoft is throwing at it and the fact that almost 40% of HTC devices sold are running it...it's not going anywhere and will only get better. It'll never be Android but that's kinda the point...we already have Android.
Microsoft isn't trying to stop Android...they're gonna make $480 million a year from it as is lol.
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elementaldragon said:
Huh? Since when was MS trying to stop Android?
http://gizmodo.com/5845047/microsoft-gets-444-million-a-year-from-android-patents-says-analysts
Think at this point, Android is to Microsoft as Halo/Gears is to Microsoft..... one massive cash cow.
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I stand corrected then. The last story I had read about was both were taking google to court. Thank you for bringing me up to date.
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malickie said:
Not one person on this forum would Ever put WP7 on this phone. So asking is slightly funny to say the least. No one who owns an Android would go through the hassle of putting dated crap software on their fast running Android Phone.
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I would. I feel that WP7 is THE best OS out there now. Why did I not get it? Lack of apps and i caught the "flashing disease"

It would certainly be fun to try out mango on the atrix. Actually the OS is very fast and stable, but its rather imposible to make it work on a hardwarewise non-standard wp7 phone. Id say one might have more luck with win8/wp8, since that one apparently has tegra2 driver support etc.

Well many ROM junkies like myself would try it out if it was available. But I would definitely not switch to WM7 on permanent basis.
Having said that, there is to little demand and too much effort needed into porting it, so it won't be available on the atrix ever.
My ATRIX has wrote this without my consent!

hell no shoot him
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