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[Q] Fascinate Won't Wake from Sleep/Screen Off

My brother and I both got Fascinates this month. Both are rooted, but only mine is upgraded to DJ05. We are both loving the phone except, both of us have a problem where the screen/phone will not wake up from sleep sometimes. It will just show a black screen, it even happened while talking on the phone today, the screen didn't wake when I got off the phone. I've done a few searches and on some other phones people suggested setting SetCP to at least one higher then the minimum when it's in screen off mode, but I just tried that and had the same issue 5 minutes later. With all the development going on, I'm hoping that someone may have found a fix for it. Does anyone else have this problem or know of a solution? I apologize if there is another thread in the fascinate forum about this, I did a few searches, but didn't see anything.
Thanks,
Ryan

You could help yourself by stating what rom version and what specific kernel you are using. And if you are using a task killer and or power managment app.
good day.

Sorry if I wasn't clear enough. We are both rooted, but my brother is otherwise running stock. No task manager, just Setcpu. I upgraded to DJ05 and installed JTs Superclean w/non voodoo and rom. But I wouldn't think that'd be the problem considering he's running stock. Maybe it's setcpu? If so is their another comparable manager for battery life that someone might suggest, I can see if that fixes it?

Setcpu offers no benefit to devices using a stock kernel only good for over clocked kernels. If the problem at hand didn't start until installing setcpu, then you have your answer. I myself do not use any power management apps so I can't speak for them.
good day.

Did you by any chance install something that adjusts the brightness of your screen?

If your running Setcpu and your having problems waking up the phone, are you running a profile for the screen off? You can't run profiles on Sammy phones, they don't like it.

No, no brightness apps.
Yes, I was running a profile for screen off and stuff. That was the whole point of Setcpu, I thought, so you could reduce it when the battery started getting low and the phone wasn't being used. Thanks for the info, I uninstalled it. I guess that's the problem. Only time will tell though. Do you know of any other reputable apps that would be similar to Setcpu?

Why not try geeks last kernel? I believe it was uv and should help battery life if that's what you're going for.

I would, but people have had some issues with them from what I hear, besides he's no longer developing them or supporting them, so sooner or later I'd be changing anyway. Maybe I'll check out juice defender.

You can keep setcpu, just don't use any profiles lol and keep it on conservative
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Does it actually do anything for you though to help save battery life without the profiles?

Just because he isn't deving for the sf doesnt mean that his kernels are worse than the stock one...I use adryn's 12/17 test 2 and get amazing battery life..14 hrs at like 60-65% but it's voodoo and you will prob not want that.

setcpu will change the ramp up/ramp down speed...more time at max when you need it more time at min when you dont...i don't think it will help nearly as much as proper kernel

So, is 2.2 on the Fascinate better than 2.1?

I haven't read too much praise about the 2.2 update. My impression right now is it's just nice to have the latest and greatest even though nothing really stands out.
So what do you like about 2.2 vs 2.1? Give me a reason to go through the process of flashing 2.2

My opinion so far: Not ready for prime time.
The recent drops of EA28 (Eclair DL09 Dailer Fix) and EB01 (FroYo update of unknown content) tell me that DL30 will not be the final release. My personal usage backs that up.
My main problem with stock DL30 is the battery life. It's quite frankly horrible for me. Even using tasker to adjust some things that should help save battery life, I can't get through the day without hitting the charger. I could go all day and end up plugging in for the night with anywhere from 35-60% left on my battery depending on what time I went to bed and how much I messed with my phone during the day.
I'm currently restoring my DL09 nandroid backup so I can wait it out.

If you need a reason, then dont flash 2.2?
With kernels and roms that support them yet to come, I dont find that much difference between 2.2 and 2.1.
Some people experience horrible battery life, others better or same (my battery is better with 2.2). Some experience a lot of different problems once they changed to 2.2 while others people experienced 0 problems.

I don't think anyone here should really be saying too much about how 2.2 works on the Fascinate (sans the people with EB01- possibly). The DL30 version is, quite apparently, a very rough version with lots of problems, so not an accurate portrayal of Froyo (and Kaosinate, I believe, is still running an older kernel with v4... and no JIT).
Just find stuff comparing Android 2.1 with Android 2.2, that isn't phone specific, to see why 2.2 will be better once our roms & kernels have a chance to mature. Anything Fascinate specific, at this point in time, will be highly implementation-specific, and not a good representation of 2.2.

DL09 - Stocke 2.2 leak - Superdark Rom
Exchange feature - company requires Android 2.2 Roms to use company email (+1)
GPS - Does not lock as fast with 2.2 (-1)
Flash (+1)
getting ready to test app2sd on 2.2 - should work (+1)
if you have to ask - do not flash

AlexDeGruven said:
My opinion so far: Not ready for prime time.
The recent drops of EA28 (Eclair DL09 Dailer Fix) and EB01 (FroYo update of unknown content) tell me that DL30 will not be the final release. My personal usage backs that up.
My main problem with stock DL30 is the battery life. It's quite frankly horrible for me. Even using tasker to adjust some things that should help save battery life, I can't get through the day without hitting the charger. I could go all day and end up plugging in for the night with anywhere from 35-60% left on my battery depending on what time I went to bed and how much I messed with my phone during the day.
I'm currently restoring my DL09 nandroid backup so I can wait it out.
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I've been doing a lot of my own investigations on EB01, and found something interesting about WIFI battery usage. First, there are lots of posts that tell you to change the WIFI sleep policy to "When screen turns off" or "Never when plugged in" in order to get back to DL09 type WIFI battery performance. However, even when I did this, I still lost lots of battery with WIFI enabled and phone inactive (screen off). I found that going into Location & security and disabling "Google location services" makes a big difference. With this disabled, I now get the extremely slow battery loss (< 1% / hr) when phone is inactive and WIFI enabled. Of course, if WIFI sleep policy is set to "Never", the power consumption goes way up. Note, in all cases, I'm leaving "Mobile data" enabled. Now then, GPS is another issue. Whenever I enable that, even though I have no background apps or active apps using GPS, it still drains the battery in a way DL09 never did. That I don't know how to solve.

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onemotodroid said:
DL09 - Stocke 2.2 leak - Superdark Rom
Exchange feature - company requires Android 2.2 Roms to use company email (+1)
GPS - Does not lock as fast with 2.2 (-1)
Flash (+1)
getting ready to test app2sd on 2.2 - should work (+1)
if you have to ask - do not flash
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My GPS is fine. The phone isn't as snappy as it was with the custom kernels on 2.1 though, and 2.2 is still buggy. Both issues are Samsung's fault, not our devs, though.
What it boils down to is that if you want flash, you have to upgrade. If you want your phone to run super fast and stable then stay on DL09 with custom kernels until FroYo matures.

Hyatt updated this morning. Everything seems better so far. Battery seems at least a little better. Gps locks just as fast if not a little faster. Overall everything seems to be far more fluid and faster.
Came from blackhole latest dl09 to superclean 2.3 eb01.
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It's nice having Flash again. And I see apps in the Market that I couldn't on 2.1. And it's noticeably faster in day to day use. At the same time, it can also be "choppy". I can't wait for custom kernels to fix this.

2.2 is great... especially when combined with a Voodoo kernel. The only thing that I miss about 2.1 is Voodoo sound and maybe slightly better battery life.
Also having access to Flash and Adobe Air apps is great.

Just put EBO1 on my phone yesterday. For me the changes to the stock theme are almost reason enough. Just a lot of small ways they have toned it down a little bit. Plus lots of little ways it works better or you get more options.
I installed it to get better at flashing, and wanted more experience with different ROMS before OTA is released. I'm glad I did EBO1.
Today I'm going to start playing with it, loading accurate battery stuff like that and will most likely try super clean in the next day or so.
But if you are happy with your phone and there is no Froyo feature you want, then no there is no strong reason not to wait for OTA.
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shorto85 said:
2.2 is great... especially when combined with a Voodoo kernel. The only thing that I miss about 2.1 is Voodoo sound and maybe slightly better battery life.
Also having access to Flash and Adobe Air apps is great.
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Ditto on all that. Coming from DL09 Super Clean with Voodoo, EB01 Super Clean without Voodoo was horribly laggy. After reinstalling Voodoo though, EB01 SC is flying! The few remaining lag points I used to have are now gone, such as the entering the helicopter view in LauncherPro, waking the phone up (pretty much instant on now, used to be a few second lag), etc. Also, the theme I installed added a ton of fancy animations, and I haven't noticed any lag on any of them. Whatever CPU enhancements Froyo brings are definitely an improvement.
The only real problem I have is noticeably reduced battery life (can still make it through a day at least, most of the time anyway). Oh, and I'm definitely missing the Voodoo sound driver. I had to crank the EQ in PowerAmp way up to compensate, and it's just not the same, since that increases audio distortion to audible levels.

[Q] My new experiences with ROMs

Essentially I am just posting this to get my count up so that I can post in the development section.
I have been using the Droid 2 since October 2010. 9 months is the longest time I have ever kept the same model. Prior to that the longest was 1 to 3 months. Even though this phone doesn't work perfectly, the length of time I've been able to endure its use says a lot.
I had my device rooted within a few weeks of acquisition. When the GB leak came out, I had it instantly.
I am still kind of confused as to why I was too scared to install a custom rom. My first rom was Liberty GB .8 And naturally it was AMAZING and EASY. I love the liberty toolbox. My battery life was insane! So many configurations and options built in! I figured if one rom was this great, why not try more...I then tried the latest APEX rom. To me, that rom seemed a little slower than liberty, so I reverted to liberty immediately. Only one known bug presented itself, and that was the adjusting of volume with a bluetooth device, the call would end. After a few days of use, I decided to take the plunge to the almighty Cyanogenmod7...
The installation process was really easy. I already had the sbf files downloaded from switching to the newer rooted GB leak. After sbf'ing z4 root would not work, so I just used the easy one click pc method.
Installing nightly updates every morning probably isn't necessary but that's what I've been doing. I gotta say, I can't wait for a stable release of this rom. I think that this rom probably isn't for the average consumer, and to definitely experiment with something like Liberty first.
There are a few things that aren't quite up to par with this rom (which will be fixed with time I know). The camera app on this rom is actually not that bad. I have gotten used to it. But I can tell that when I have it set on 5MP, that the picture quality is not as good as the stock app. The flash is also not as bright, and I have seen a setting to tweak that, just need to get around to doing it.
With Liberty, I was honestly able to make it 36 hours without having to recharge my device, and was using it heavily (gps always on, bluetooth connected, navigating, phone calls, texting tons, etc). However, with cm7, even with sync off, bluetooth off, and brightness set to low, the battery seems to just fade away, even after re-calibrating it. And yes I am sure the fact that the battery percentage is in the notification bar, that being able to see each percent, might have a little to do with it. Even with the governor set at 600mhz, and profiles with setcpu, still crummy.
Anyway, I am thankful to no longer have problems with my keyboard backlight, and having the ability to use wireless tether, and netflix. (And I don't want to hear any negative remarks about it, because I constantly use wifi when I can, and I rarely reach 1GB of data use). My phone now runs FAST.
Alright, only 9 more posts like this to go.

So, overall, you would recommend Liberty above the others at this time?

If it came down to battery life as the biggest concern, by far, liberty. Its pretty darn fast too. But if you have an extended battery and are able to endure a few kinks for a short time, then try CM7.
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Speaking of, I went back to Liberty! May go to 0.9 but the changes aren't that significant. It was nice to be able to cm7>LGB without sbf'ing!
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[Q] Bulletproof ROM/Kernel Combo?

I love to play around with new ROMs and kernels and usually don't mind a few hiccups and occasional poor performance. But soon I will have a one week period where I need my phone to be as solid as possible. What's the best ROM/kernel for this?
I currently use CM7 as my daily and have tested CM9. CM7 is great except battery life is pretty bad, with both the CM7 and Samurai kernels. I lose about 1% of battery for every 90 secs I'm actively doing something - even on Wifi and with a strong 3g signal. A 15minute drive with GPS (and screen off) easily takes 10% off my battery. This is unacceptable for my upcoming event.
I would like a ROM/kernel combo that can go for a minimum of 12 hours with moderate use. No voice, but frequent texting, email, twitter checks, some photos, and calling up pdfs. Battery life and stability are the top concerns, but GPS is important as well. CM7 gives me the best GPS results I've ever had with my Epic, but like I said, the battery performance is awful.
Any ideas? Focusing on all the cutting edge stuff means I've lost touch with the latest improvements on the more basic, but more solid ROMs.
Thanks!

get a larger battery or pick up a spare oe battery as a backup.

this is one of those questions you just dont ask cause it all depends on how you use your phone and all that i know you say what you mostly use it for but it still doesnt help if you are looking for a stable rom as far as mtd goes they are all good and as far as kernels go they are all good but the kicker is just finding what works best for you feel free to play around with them flash one per day and figure out which one works best for you cause honestly we cant tell you cause what would extend our battery life might not work for you because you use your phone differently than we do but trust me all of our devs are gonna throw out something that doesnt work all the warnings are there and all the help and how to's for each rom and kernel are in their respective threads sorry i couldnt give you a better answer bud
happy flashing
Oh and I forgot to mention since you have been running cm7 make sure you don't flash a bml rom not sure if u were aware of that or not so only flash and MTD rom and kernel

CleanGB. No OC/UV, and buy an epic touch 1800mah battery. For me I get best responsiveness vs battery life if I run 100/800mhz with governer set to performance. You'd have to REALLY try to kill that battery in a day with this setup.
Edit: you use gps in the car without plugging it in? No wonder your battery commits suicide lol. If I use gps and stream music through bluetooth it still discharges on the charger.

There is no such thing. Even pure stock has errors on some people's phones. You need to try one or if it is that important than stock is your best bet. EVERY Phone is different. Read through some of the ROMs...95% of the people have no problems and 5% do. It is the nature of the beast. No one can tell which is best for YOUR phone. And if CM7 is giving you terrible battery life, there already is something wrong with your phone setup. You probably need to start from scratch and restore no apps or data and download apps fresh from the market.

I've always had good luck with CleanGB roms & kernals by toadlife.

joedig52 said:
I've always had good luck with CleanGB roms & kernals by toadlife.
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But not everybody does. There is no best. I can easily say marcusantrom with shadow kernel is best on touchwiz and CM7 with the kernel it comes with is the best in general. I won't say this because different people have different phones and preferences... if you really want the best rom/kernel/theme, make it yourself.
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Best kernel solution?

Hey guys! This is my first topic on XDA, so I apologize in advance if I do something wrong.
I love my 6P and since it's a Nexus, there's always some tinkering so I can make it even better and suitable for my needs. I pretty much like stock-ish ROMs with that touch of Pixel phones and I find that original Google kernel serves me well in terms of battery life and overall performance (I'm probably one of the rare dudes to state something like this). But original kernel is very limited in terms of other options custom kernels offer, like gestures, screen color control, audio boost, etc. Regarding custom kernels, I never had any good experience with battery life, even when setting the governors on powersave/noop/cfq or any other I tried.
So, I guess what I'm asking is - can you recommend me a kernel that's exactly like the Google's out-of-the-box, but with those added options I mentioned above? Or is there some way to restore settings on custom kernels to default Google's settings?
Cheers!

I keep falling back on ElementalX, it offers enough customization, and still has decent battery depending on your settings. There's a million and 1 ways to configure it. I tried other very popular, more feature rich (they have everything, plus the kitchen sink, and sometimes cupboards too), but the battery drain is just too high for my liking. Not even using the phone, and every time I wake it with one of those kernels, it's dropped another 8-10%, without being used.
I haven't tried them all though. Many of the slimmer kernels don't offer a way to disable touchboost, so I rule those out as soon as I see that.

HikingMoose said:
I keep falling back on ElementalX, it offers enough customization, and still has decent battery depending on your settings. There's a million and 1 ways to configure it. I tried other very popular, more feature rich (they have everything, plus the kitchen sink, and sometimes cupboards too), but the battery drain is just too high for my liking. Not even using the phone, and every time I wake it with one of those kernels, it's dropped another 8-10%, without being used.
I haven't tried them all though. Many of the slimmer kernels don't offer a way to disable touchboost, so I rule those out as soon as I see that.
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Oh, ElementalX was my first choice too, but suddenly that too started to drain my battery quickly after a while. At first I thought it happened because of some app, but when I flashed default kernel everything got back to normal. That's why I wonder is there a way to copy those default settings and apply them to some custom kernel.
You think disabling touchboost is a big deal? Cause of battery life or something else?

inspire4gfreak said:
Oh, ElementalX was my first choice too, but suddenly that too started to drain my battery quickly after a while. At first I thought it happened because of some app, but when I flashed default kernel everything got back to normal. That's why I wonder is there a way to copy those default settings and apply them to some custom kernel.
You think disabling touchboost is a big deal? Cause of battery life or something else?
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You may check this thread regarding kernel governor profile customisation:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/ne...dvanced-interactive-governor-t3290605/page471
A lot of options to choose from. EX Kernel, Flash Kernel, (I guess other kernels) support this mod using a kernel manager app.
I'm currently using EX Kernel + EX Kernel Manager + Ghost Pepper profile.
Fast enough for me. Plus it helped me saving some juice.
Depending on your usage, it takes trials and errors until you find the good kernel/config that suits your needs.
Happy reading...

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You may check this thread regarding kernel governor profile customisation:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/ne...dvanced-interactive-governor-t3290605/page471
A lot of options to choose from. EX Kernel, Flash Kernel, (I guess other kernels) support this mod using a kernel manager app.
I'm currently using EX Kernel + EX Kernel Manager + Ghost Pepper profile.
Fast enough for me. Plus it helped me saving some juice.
Depending on your usage, it takes trials and errors until you find the good kernel/config that suits your needs.
Happy reading...
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Wow, I stumbled upon some other loooooong post about governors, but this one is amazing! I didn't know touchboost has that much influence on battery. I will try this out, thanks mate!

I get better battery life on ElementalEx over stock kernel without a doubt. I am running interactive with Ghost Pepper profile and touch boost disabled. If battery life is your main consideration you could try Franco's Kernel but you are sacrificing some phone performance to get the better battery life. I found the drop off in performance very noticeable but his kernel has its fans. I think ElementalEx has a better balance between performance and battery life.

inspire4gfreak said:
Oh, ElementalX was my first choice too, but suddenly that too started to drain my battery quickly after a while. At first I thought it happened because of some app, but when I flashed default kernel everything got back to normal. That's why I wonder is there a way to copy those default settings and apply them to some custom kernel.
You think disabling touchboost is a big deal? Cause of battery life or something else?
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Touchboost wastes battery because it boosts you to 1248000 every single time you touch the screen, and it holds it for like a second or two. It does make your phone faster, and responsive though.
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