Motorola Xoom - Android 3.0 - Tegra 2 dualcore - Xoom General

So here it is... motorola's tablet powered by Honeycomb. And damn Honeycomb looks awesome. just wanted to know if the honeycomb what shown in that android developer video has the native UI... or motorola have put one of its own..?
Just look at the 10.1 tablet... http://bit.ly/dGPvlR

10 mins detailed honeycomb, its the only thing you need to know of honeycomb... verizon had detailed the xoom at CES.... http://www.techit.in/detailed-preview-of-honeycomb-its-sweet/

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Archos 101 upgrade to Gingerbread and Higher.

Based on the last CES Archos launched their Archos 101 Home tablet. Archos Home tablet edition has a much lower specs compared to Archos Internet tablet edition but in the video provided at Archosfans.com it says that it has support to Gingerbread and Future Version of android.
Does this mean that the Current Archos 101IT edition can still be upgrade to those version of android?
Any thoughts in thi matter???
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Of course it can be upgraded to the newer OS version. The big question is will Archos actually do it. I'm really hoping they will but won't be surprised if they don't.
if archos won't upgrade our A101IT maybe others can make custom roms? have any of you seen or heard if one is under development?
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minxwin said:
if archos won't upgrade our A101IT maybe others can make custom roms? have any of you seen or heard if one is under development?
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No one has mentioned making a Gingerbread ROM.
i stumbled upon a video on youtube. the video is captured at last weeks CES.
in the video they ask the guy if honeycomb will be on the tablet. he says "uh yah"
he also mentions how full flash capability will be available by end of month.
check out the video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R9gt9x4tM5g
lol. Not much of a commitment. Plus, this is the same crew that tried to say that the 7 Home Tablet is a Gen8 tablet. So, I think I will not be holding my breath on this one.
What do you think about 256 RAM issue? I suppose that 2.3 (even 3.0) could be run on 101IT, however, it may work very slow!
badablog said:
What do you think about 256 RAM issue? I suppose that 2.3 (even 3.0) could be run on 101IT, however, it may work very slow!
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Won't know until we try. They said the same thing about Froyo until it was running on devices that had 256MB.
blazingwolf said:
Won't know until we try. They said the same thing about Froyo until it was running on devices that had 256MB.
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Oh, I see. Didn't know.
blazingwolf said:
Won't know until we try. They said the same thing about Froyo until it was running on devices that had 256MB.
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Exactly. We get into a Windows and Mac mindset but Android is different from those systems in that each progressive version gets a little better at using system resources, not worse so you don't always have to upgrade the hardware to run the new software. My original MyTouch phone with a 600 ghz processor and 128 mb of memory runs much smoother on froyo than it ever did on donut or eclair.
That said, there are diminishing returns and Honeycomb is really a major step up in terms of functionality so I am not holding my breath that Archos will take the time to upgrade considering they will be probably be putting out new devices by then. I love my A70 but I sort of look at it like an early adopter type device to see how useful the form factor for me (it is...I have an hour to 90 minute commute and it is perfect).
I plan to upgrade and maybe even get a contract (yikes!) for a honeycomb tablet later this year. I would never consider $275 chump change but if I can use it for 8 months to a year and then sell it for $100-150 to put toward an upgrade, I would be happy.
I considered the Galaxy Tab but a 2 year contract on this generation of devices is a bad move in my opinion.
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Exactly. We get into a Windows and Mac mindset but Android is different from those systems in that each progressive version gets a little better at using system resources, not worse so you don't always have to upgrade the hardware to run the new software. My original MyTouch phone with a 600 ghz processor and 128 mb of memory runs much smoother on froyo than it ever did on donut or eclair.
That said, there are diminishing returns and Honeycomb is really a major step up in terms of functionality so I am not holding my breath that Archos will take the time to upgrade considering they will be probably be putting out new devices by then. I love my A70 but I sort of look at it like an early adopter type device to see how useful the form factor for me (it is...I have an hour to 90 minute commute and it is perfect).
I plan to upgrade and maybe even get a contract (yikes!) for a honeycomb tablet later this year. I would never consider $275 chump change but if I can use it for 8 months to a year and then sell it for $100-150 to put toward an upgrade, I would be happy.
I considered the Galaxy Tab but a 2 year contract on this generation of devices is a bad move in my opinion.
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600 ghz? Wouldn't your phone explode?
no - but the battery does not last very l
i hope they do make an upgrade, but they might wait until honeycomb cause its supposed to be for tablets or something
i thought better be hoping to the developers to made the gingerbread rom than hoping the archos team made it
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600 ghz? Wouldn't your phone explode?
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I connect it to several dozen multi core server blades. It does cut down on portability however.
richdaley said:
I connect it to several dozen multi core server blades. It does cut down on portability however.
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But I imagine it does wonders for your Angry Birds scores....
i'd think if you go the SDE route and boot android from SD that the community would update it even if archos doesnt.
Just wondrering if the Archos 101it will get a Gingerbread update soon as I have seen this for a Arnova 10.1
"Archos Arnova 10" G2 4GB Tablet
Arnova introduces its next generation of AndroidTM based tablets powered by a super fast 1 GHz processor. This second generation comes with an ultra-responsive multitouch capacitive screen and optimised AndroidTM 2.3 Gingerbread operating system. This smart combination between high performance hardware and intuitive software will offer you many ways to use your tablet. "
from this source
http://hmv.com/hmvweb/displayProductDetails.do?ctx=228;16;-1;-1;-1&sku=262520
The unit in the picture looks just like a 101it
fireblade893 said:
Just wondrering if the Archos 101it will get a Gingerbread update soon as I have seen this for a Arnova 10.1
"Archos Arnova 10" G2 4GB Tablet
Arnova introduces its next generation of AndroidTM based tablets powered by a super fast 1 GHz processor. This second generation comes with an ultra-responsive multitouch capacitive screen and optimised AndroidTM 2.3 Gingerbread operating system. This smart combination between high performance hardware and intuitive software will offer you many ways to use your tablet. "
from this source
http://hmv.com/hmvweb/displayProductDetails.do?ctx=228;16;-1;-1;-1&sku=262520
The unit in the picture looks just like a 101it
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We`ll never get official GB or HC
we`ve ported GB, but HC we cant port, we dont have the sources
I still have hope for Ice Cream Sandwich
Lenn said:
We`ll never get official GB or HC
we`ve ported GB, but HC we cant port, we dont have the sources
I still have hope for Ice Cream Sandwich
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What are the differences in the two devices? Other than the storage size they seem to be the same
Arnova also list the rom as a seperate download from
http://arnovatech.com/support/updates.html
Looking at website the specs seem very close on the G2 vs 101it
http://arnovatech.com/products/g2/arn_10/specs.html?country=gb&lang=en
http://store.archos.com/archos-internet-tablet-p-5005.html

Good news: Tab will get a Gingerbread update

From a Dutch site: http://www.tabletguide.nl/5393/samsung-galaxy-tab-krijgt-gingerbread-update/
Basically it says that Samsung employees in Germany have spread out the word that the Tab will get a Gingerbread update.... eventually (that is, they didn't mention when)
Let the FW leaks silently begin
That's not good news to me, I have a tablet, I want Honeycomb!
Lol. A firmware update is always good to me. Hopefully we'll get at least either.
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2.4
Gingerbread is basically the same as froyo. The only real improvement is making the text selecting more intuitive. I want the api from honeycomb, for dual pane applications and the new 3d interface.
So that means either honeycomb or 2.4. For me 2.4 is probably better, since I will meanly be using the tab as a phone with a tablet profile.
So Sammy, please give us 2.4 and not just 2.3.
yes, nothing to write home about
if you want 2.3 go get the cm7 beta from the dev section
what i want is a honeycomb port
It is a good thing, because of possibly updated drivers we can use in a Honeycomb port
Don't know if I want a honeycomb port. What I want is a performance improvement and Gingerbread is such an improvement. The JIT compiler is optimized again (like it was the case with froyo) and there is a concurrent garbage collector for better memory management.
If honeycomb is even faster (for a non dual core device) yes than I want honeycomb. And as for the beta build, I rather wait for a beta of the 2.4 Frankenstein build LoL
Furthermore, if Samsung is committing itself to an upgrade, this means the tab won't become obsolete when other new 7" tablets hit the market, like for example the Flyer. It means that they have plans to stay on top of this segment, which is great. Maybe they will also improve the built in Samsung software, like for example the browser and the mail app. So no buzz, but rather the real thing for me
I'd be happy enough to see Gingerbread arrive (the CM7 beta on here is unfortunately a long way from being a stable release). Not so sure about Honeycomb. That's specifically for tablets without hardware buttons. Would seem out of place on the Tab - which let's be honest is a lot closer to a phone than a tablet, despite being awesome at that. I think Samsung will skip Honeycomb and head for the release that combines Honeycomb UI and phone functionality. Whatever happens, it'll be nice if Samsung supports the device with OS updates for at least a year.
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I'd be happy enough to see Gingerbread arrive (the CM7 beta on here is unfortunately a long way from being a stable release). Not so sure about Honeycomb. That's specifically for tablets without hardware buttons. Would seem out of place on the Tab - which let's be honest is a lot closer to a phone than a tablet, despite being awesome at that. I think Samsung will skip Honeycomb and head for the release that combines Honeycomb UI and phone functionality. Whatever happens, it'll be nice if Samsung supports the device with OS updates for at least a year.
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I think it's relatively easy to map the galaxy Tabs hardware buttons to the software functionality as soon as the source goes AOSP
Then we can get rid of the software buttons too... boom! perfect!
I hope the new launcher doesn't eat up too much performance
and I fudging want GTalk with video support!
I'm not so sure but can't we port Samsung galaxay s gingerbread to tab
Yay for gingerbread/icecream/icecream sandwich! (or whatever it's called these days) This is comforting news at least, knowing that they are not ditching the smaller device in favor of the shiny new 8.9 and 10 inch models..
Good news, but I want Honeycomb!
maxtcee said:
I'm not so sure but can't we port Samsung galaxay s gingerbread to tab
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I've read that the galaxy tab and galaxy line of phones have similar hardware... makes me think that new versions of android that are released for the phones could potentially work on our tabs.
not sure though, and im not a dev.. but i'd love some fresh official sgt firmware releases before samsung stops supporting the tab
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and i fudging want gtalk with video support! :d
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[Q] gingerbread on Galaxy tab 10.1

Can we flash gingerbread on tab 10.1?
Not yet, we need root and recovery. After that, likely so.
Honeycomb a bit too bleeding-edge right now?
I don't think you need to flash a Rom to get gingerbread.
http://www.engadget.com/2011/05/20/...n-gingerbread-interface-enabled-by-h/?m=false
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why would you want to flash gingerbread?
The Galaxy Tab 10.1 runs Honeycomb (Android 3.x). The retail version comes with 3.1
Gingerbread is Android 2.3.x and it's designed for phones, not tablets. The link that basskid provides shows how Honeycomb has some phone layout support... kind of pointless to enable on a tablet. It was a bigger deal when rumors were flying about on whether or not Honeycomb was going to be released for phones (which we now know it won't be).
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I don't think you need to flash a Rom to get gingerbread.
http://www.engadget.com/2011/05/20/...n-gingerbread-interface-enabled-by-h/?m=false
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Well, I guess there is that, but you still need root to change the LCD Density.
Still, it depends on why the OP wants Gingerbread. If it's because Honeycomb is too laggy for him, just enabling the phone interface might not fix that; and if it's only because of lag I'd just wait for better Honeycomb ROMs to come out.
No need to ask why he wants to do this. Hell, if a how-to was posted, I'd do it just to do it.
Kind of like Angry Birds on the new nook. Why not?
Yes honeycomb is slow as compare to my gingebread on my galaxy tab 7. Even though gt 7 has SINGLE CORE processor its very fast. Plus typing on the honeycomb is too slow i hit letter and it appears late. I think this is a honeycomb issue. I am wondering if gt 7 with slower processor and less ram than gt 10.1 is so fast with gingerbread how fast would gingerbread works on tegra 2 plus 1gb ram. I hope we can switch firmware just like we do on PC sometimes windows 7 and sometimes Windows XP on same PC.

Honeycomb 3.2 to support 7" screens

So it looks like 3.2 is what we really need for our 7" Gtabs. Though honestly I actually just like the plain grid of icons over the tablet specific Honeycomb interface. My use pattern with my tab is more app centric where I open an app to accomplish anything compared to my phone which is more widgeted with a lot more glancable information.
http://thisismynext.com/2011/06/20/...ummer-seven-inch-tablets-qualcomm-processors/
according to three independent sources, Android 3.2 will be the last Honeycomb point upgrade before Google opens up the Ice Cream Sandwich freezer, and it will indeed run on a “range” of screen sizes, meaning that proper 7-inch Android tablets are about to become a reality.
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hmmm . yeah we all know that icecream will be for us "probably" so do you think , 3.2 will be release so FAST !! specially after the Tabs shifted with Honeycomb been releases NOW .. "ok here is the REAL FACT" ...
honeycomb will get update after 3 to 7 months ..
IceCream , will be For Us after 1 to 1 year and 6months ... ROFLMAO .. ppl are dreaming yeah i rather dream of having s*x with Megan Fox than waiting for an update LMAO
DeoreDX said:
So it looks like 3.2 is what we really need for our 7" Gtabs. Though honestly I actually just like the plain grid of icons over the tablet specific Honeycomb interface. My use pattern with my tab is more app centric where I open an app to accomplish anything compared to my phone which is more widgeted with a lot more glancable information.
http://thisismynext.com/2011/06/20/...ummer-seven-inch-tablets-qualcomm-processors/
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OH OK, I GUESS THAT MEANS IT WILL RUN ON THE GT7 A-OK!
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Galaxy Tab 2 (7") announced running ICS

GALAXY TAB 2 7"
Contains photo of what seems to be touchwiz UX for ics.
If you have nothing constructive to contribute, please do not comment.
Article: http://m.engadget.com/default/artic...ab-2-android-4.0/&category=classic&postPage=1
Video, close up: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rAH-Ff7Uouw&feature=youtube_gdata_player
This means (most likeley) that we will get ICS in march!
Yéé!
Heard this thing can do the GSM calls as well.
It reminds me of gingercomb :/
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Am I the only one that thinks this is strange? They introduced the "7 Plus" with upgraded h/w (1.2GHz Exynos) and HC and now they're introducing what's basically the original 7" with nothing new but ICS? If the specs are correct the 1GHz chip is probably the now ancient Teg2. The only h/w difference appears to be 1MB of RAM instead of 512K. So what's their strategy? Introduce ICS via newly named devices? Will there be a Tab 10.1 "2" that has ICS? What would that mean to the existing Tab 10.1 "1?" If they tie ICS to launching second versions of their existing devices, even if they intend to upgrade the originals, we'll be waiting an awfully long time. To me, this isn't good news until we know how it affects getting ICS on existing products.
That makes sense, I acknowledge your concern but we could always use the system dump from the new tab ,especially if it has the same hw, although it may need some scaling
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Here is the desktop link to the one posted in the original post. It has a link to the announcement of the tab 7.0 2
http://www.engadget.com/2012/02/13/samsung-announces-galaxy-tab-2-android-4.0/
I don't understand why you'd put a three megapixel camera on a tablet when most phones have 8.
Stuckinabox said:
I don't understand why you'd put a three megapixel camera on a tablet when most phones have 8.
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Most phones are also much thicker than the tablets are. It's a form-factor limitation. When it comes to camera, it is mostly all about the optics. It'll get there as the processors behind these cameras keep getting faster, better, smaller. But until then, you need to rely on the glass and space between them.
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I don't understand why you'd put a three megapixel camera on a tablet when most phones have 8.
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tell me how often you use your tab to take picture ?
Sorry, system is temporarily unavailable, please try again later. -_-
oh it's for the 7.0 tab
gee thanks
I think this is gonna be a budget price model to complete with Kindle Fire and Nook Tablet. But i don't think they can offer this at a price tag less than 300$
and now hopefully to see someone upload leak ics rom for the tab
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I think this is gonna be a budget price model
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Not so much...
Revealing what it says are the "official" prices across several countries in Europe, blogging site Samsung Hub found that the price in U.S. dollars for the Wi-Fi-only version ranged from $419 to $450, while the cost of the Wi-Fi+3G version varied from $523 to $568.
Here's an article that, like me, questions why it exists at all...
http://gizmodo.com/5884606/samsung-galaxy-tab-2-why-do-you-exist
So, basicaly, you'd get the same "hardware" than the Tab 10.1 but with a 7" screen...
looks interesting but I personally prefer tablets with a bigger screen than 7-inch
Too bad it's a 7 inch. Will samsung release a 10 inch version soon?
i cant wait for ICS on my 10.1. Honeycomb is a joke. I am running a KANG ics build but i cant wait for the real thing
I have been looking at videos of this tab, and scrolling through home screens in portrait packed full of widgets looks flawlessly smooth. I really hope we get that new touchwiz launcher.
Edit: I have the galaxy s2, and I have been running the an ICS leak of the last few weeks, Samsung has updated the touch-wiz launcher a lot for ICS, and it looks a lot like the launcher on this new tab. So if they will update the s2 to this new launcher style, hopefully they will do the same for our tab, as this new touchwiz launcher looks smooth and very nice. If it is as smooth on our tab as it is on this new 7inch, it will make all my tabby dreams come true
To the OP; I think this thread is a good idea, thank you. But just as constructive criticism , you really should have sated more about what you meant this thread to be about in your first post

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