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Nexus S - Disappointment?

Anyone else think that the Nexus S is kind of a disappointment?
There's nothing revolutionary or really exciting about it. It's specs sound like it's just another Galaxy S device. No dual core, no HSDPA+, nada.
Now, to be clear, I'm talking just about the device itself. Not Gingerbread. Gingerbread looks hot. Curious to hear what you folks think about the device.

No sd card slot but has a 16 gig storage. I guessing Google corrected the available memory issue with 2. 3
I think it to early to draw up any conclusions with what we have on hand.
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It's a Samsung which for me, after my experience with the Vibrant, equals 'never again'.
If anything I do hope that the Nexus S, by extension, will provide some much needed relief to those who are sticking it out with their Vibrants, etc.
Just my take, I'm not a phone buff or geek, I just want my device to work properly, which is why I switched to the G2.

I've had a vibrant. Felt too cheap to me. Sad part it wasn't cheap. Paid 500 for it. The lack of support and gps issue is what turned me away. It was a nice phone. Just not my style. As I'm sure just by looking at the nexsus s, they will have the same issues. But I could be wrong. Maybe google will put a flame under samsungs butt and make them correct their errors in a fast manner.
[G2/HTC Vision]

smutek said:
It's a Samsung
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That simple little statement is what made me turn my head. I love Google, and I think them working to make a phone with a company means it will be a good phone. I believe Samsung will get more respect from this phone, but Samsung's plastic has always stood out and this phone looks like it has just as much as any other Samsung phone. It has decent specs, nothing groundbreaking by any means, but just as nice as any other smart phone out now.
Remind me, wasn't the N1 the first phone to have a 1GHz processor? At least one of the first? I figured Google's second phone would be VERY top of the line instead of average.

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Remind me, wasn't the N1 the first phone to have a 1GHz processor? At least one of the first? I figured Google's second phone would be VERY top of the line instead of average.
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Yeeeep. It was the very first. Big reason I dumped my Droid for the Nexus One way back when. That and I didn't like Verizon's service.
That's part of the reason I was so disappointed with the specs on the Nexus S. Nothing revolutionary again. Just another Galaxy S.

If I were holding out for the Nexus S, then yes, I would be disappointed. But I wasn't since I'm still in love with my G2. Can't believe Google would let this thing go to T-Mobile USA with those specs. Not dual core, no HSPA+, less ram than the MyTouch, less screen than the HD7, no hdmi out, not even a kickstand? Can a brother get a kickstand? And this is supposed to be the flagship Android phone? Ha, it won't even be the best phone at T-Mobile.

KeithRVA said:
If I were holding out for the Nexus S, then yes, I would be disappointed. But I wasn't since I'm still in love with my G2. Can't believe Google would let this thing go to T-Mobile USA with those specs. Not dual core, no HSPA+, less ram than the MyTouch, less screen than the HD7, no hdmi out, not even a kickstand? Can a brother get a kickstand? And this is supposed to be the flagship Android phone? Ha, it won't even be the best phone at T-Mobile.
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*golf clap*
+1

I have already heard it reviewed as Nexus 1.5, not 2.0 !

Umm, isn't this is a bit off-topic ?
*runs and hides*

unremarked said:
Nothing revolutionary again. Just another Galaxy S.
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exactly wut i was thinking. oh and wuts your avatar? isnt that the symbol from reboot?

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oh and wuts your avatar? isnt that the symbol from reboot?
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Indeed. Great show. Kids these days don't know what they're missing.

long story short, its a disappointment.

TBH, the only thing I am actually DISAPOINTED with is the lack of an Orion processor... rumor had it that it was delayed because of that issue! What is gonna happen is in 2 months all the tegra 2 devices are gonna start showing up and your "Flagship" device is already sub-par/obsolete

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TBH, the only thing I am actually DISAPOINTED with is the lack of an Orion processor... rumor had it that it was delayed because of that issue! What is gonna happen is in 2 months all the tegra 2 devices are gonna start showing up and your "Flagship" device is already sub-par/obsolete
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just in time for a Nexus 2 ...
new **** happens. there's money to be made beforehand.

Sooo disappointed
First of all, I love my N1 and sorry for the long post but i have to vent.
I bought a Nexus One in February when it came for T-mobile only and then gave it away to my brother in law who had T-Mobile when the AT&T N1 came out and bought that. My contract with AT&T has been up for a couple of months now and i was really hoping for a device (from google) that would be better than the N1 (for future proofing for at least 6 months).
Well this device is better than the N1 but not enough to ditch the N1 and get this. Here are the reasons:
Biggest disappointment: Only a 5 MP camera still? Come on Google? The EVO has an 8MP camera and has been out for months. I know phone cameras really aren't meant to replace traditional digital cameras but my sisters EVO takes pictures that are great (in the correct light) and if i had that i wouldn't even buy a new digital camera.
Second biggest disappointment: Not CDMA. I want to switch to sprint or verizon. If Google/ Samsung comes out with a CDMA version i might overlook the other disappointments and ditch the N1.
Now other reasons why Nexus S is not really that much better than the N1 to warrant another $529.
Processor: I don't know too much about the speed difference in the processors but i'm assuming they will roughly perform the same. However, i think within next couple of months new Android / Non-Android phones will come out with better processors and this will be outdated. I must add though, i haven't really seen any lag on the 1 ghz.
Video: I'm guessing the Nexus S will record 720p video, but so does my N1 (with cyanogen) and so does the EVO and many many other devices. 1080 would have been the next step and another reason i might have upgraded. Not on my top priority list though.
I don't really care that much about that NFC thing. I am curious to try it, but not enough to shell out $529 (i don't want contracts). Once more vendors support this it will become more important but not at this point.
Nexus S will probably be better for 3D gaming as the GPU on N1 supposedly sucks. I'm assuming the gingerbread advantage for 3d gaming will also be applicable to N1 but Nexus S will probably have a better GPU. I don't care about this too much because i don't play much 3d games on phones anyway but other people might weigh this more.

Yes to me its a Flopfor the the simple fact its just a google version of Galaxy S. BUT then again, after my experiance with my behold II, i will NEVER buy a samsung phone again, thats just me though... Besides my G2 is great been a while since i had a phone i was happy with.

adil06944 said:
First of all, I love my N1 and sorry for the long post but i have to vent.
I bought a Nexus One in February when it came for T-mobile only and then gave it away to my brother in law who had T-Mobile when the AT&T N1 came out and bought that. My contract with AT&T has been up for a couple of months now and i was really hoping for a device (from google) that would be better than the N1 (for future proofing for at least 6 months).
Well this device is better than the N1 but not enough to ditch the N1 and get this. Here are the reasons:
Biggest disappointment: Only a 5 MP camera still? Come on Google? The EVO has an 8MP camera and has been out for months. I know phone cameras really aren't meant to replace traditional digital cameras but my sisters EVO takes pictures that are great (in the correct light) and if i had that i wouldn't even buy a new digital camera.
Second biggest disappointment: Not CDMA. I want to switch to sprint or verizon. If Google/ Samsung comes out with a CDMA version i might overlook the other disappointments and ditch the N1.
Now other reasons why Nexus S is not really that much better than the N1 to warrant another $529.
Processor: I don't know too much about the speed difference in the processors but i'm assuming they will roughly perform the same. However, i think within next couple of months new Android / Non-Android phones will come out with better processors and this will be outdated. I must add though, i haven't really seen any lag on the 1 ghz.
Video: I'm guessing the Nexus S will record 720p video, but so does my N1 (with cyanogen) and so does the EVO and many many other devices. 1080 would have been the next step and another reason i might have upgraded. Not on my top priority list though.
I don't really care that much about that NFC thing. I am curious to try it, but not enough to shell out $529 (i don't want contracts). Once more vendors support this it will become more important but not at this point.
Nexus S will probably be better for 3D gaming as the GPU on N1 supposedly sucks. I'm assuming the gingerbread advantage for 3d gaming will also be applicable to N1 but Nexus S will probably have a better GPU. I don't care about this too much because i don't play much 3d games on phones anyway but other people might weigh this more.
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Agreed. I'll be sticking with my overclocked G2 until we see 1.5ghz Dual Core chips with all of the bells and whistles these companies are cooking up.

CDMA blows

More reason to hold off on Nexus S purchase?

Promise of something better from Samsung in Feb?
Could it be the Galaxy S2?
Thoughts?

There will always be something bigger and better on the horizon in the world of cell phones. But no expandable memory and 3g on tmobile only? I'll be waiting for something else.

I talk about why I feel Google/Sammy partnership was a last minute idea, and that they both tried to get dual-core into the Nexus S but couldn't do it in time to launch with Gingerbread. In other words, the Nexus S was a rushed device, and maybe we should reconsider before buying them and allowing them to "get away," so to speak, with providing us a Nexus branded phone that doesn't live up to what the Nexus name entails.
The Nexus S Story Doesn't Add Up

I am with you completely. The lack of expandable memory reminds me of the iphone, and the xmas release timing would fit into your theory of a rushed device. To me a phone meant to follow nexus one should blow everyone's socks off and this (while I'm sure it is a nice phone) isn't even close. In fact I would go so far to say that other than gingerbread, it seems a slight improvement at best.

also keep in mind that the Galaxy 2, no matter how good the specs, is going to be running touchwiz and not stock android.
if you want a stock android device, the nexus s is the way to go right now, or the G2 if you want a keyboard.

dude.. im waiting for the EVO 5 ...**** gonna fly... lol if u think like that stay away from technology

neok44 said:
also keep in mind that the Galaxy 2, no matter how good the specs, is going to be running touchwiz and not stock android.
if you want a stock android device, the nexus s is the way to go right now, or the G2 if you want a keyboard.
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Exactly. I'm getting the Nexus S because it's a Google phone. Samsung makes very good hardware, but they are lousy progammers. What good is great hardware when it's let down by crappy drivers? Google, on the other hand, specialize in software, and they're very good at it.
Samsung hardware and Google software, that should be an awesome combination.

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I talk about why I feel Google/Sammy partnership was a last minute idea, and that they both tried to get dual-core into the Nexus S but couldn't do it in time to launch with Gingerbread. In other words, the Nexus S was a rushed device, and maybe we should reconsider before buying them and allowing them to "get away," so to speak, with providing us a Nexus branded phone that doesn't live up to what the Nexus name entails.
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Nexus S has always been a single-core product. I've read lots of entertaining rumors about multicore, though. The belief that we changed SoCs from Orion to Hummingbird (or were going to change the other way around) at the last moment is fascinating, but completely out of touch with the realities of developing these devices.

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The belief that we changed SoCs from Orion to Hummingbird (or were going to change the other way around) at the last moment is fascinating, but completely out of touch with the realities of developing these devices.
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Of course you'd say that, it's all part of the Great Google Nexus Conspiracy
The quad-core Nexus 3 is probably being developed at Area 51 at this very moment! I'm thinking virtual screen and keyboard, holographic, of course.

Nothing is going to hold me back from buying this. By the time dual core comes. They would be talking about quad cores
And I m getting everything I need from the current generation phones. Will upgrade later if they really have something good on the table to offer

My disappointment doesn't come so much from the lack of dual-core, but more from the lack of HSPA+ support. It's baffling (but not really baffling considering I feel Google/Sammy's partnership came mid-year during or after the Galaxy S success, and they both rushed to get the Nexus S out with Gingerbread before Xmas) that they would not include support for 4G when you start to consider the Nexus S into the year 2011 (it's coming in approximately 3 weeks). All carriers are pushing toward "4G" and even some handsets already support it. Yes, it's not prominent now, but this is the future of 2011, and for a Nexus branded phone to not be future-proof makes it difficult to drop $529 dollars on - especially when you factor in the other baffling decisions (lack of SD expansion, 480p HD recording, dropping LED).

Okay let's get this clear...
HSPA+ isn't a big factor. Yet.
Why?
My Vibrant has pulled down 7.2mbps. My G2 pulled down 10mbps.
Big upgrade? Not really.
Vibrant (and Nexus S) are both capped at 7.2 (device)
G2 is capped at 14.4. The G2 however is very unlikely to go over 10 until late next year, if that.
an extra 3mbps doesn't matter much if you're already pulling down 5+. On your... Cell Phone.
However! Most people pull less than 5mbps period. If this is true, HSPA+ doesn't even matter for you.

Nexus S Love

I'm been really annoyed with all the hate being spewed about the Nexus S over the last several days. I've been meaning to post why I think most of the hate is seriously misinformed or not fully thought out, but I came across this post on Android and Me and it sums up almost exactly how I feel.
Credit to jivemaster and Android and Me:
I am first in line for a Nexus S. I’m not sure what people are waiting for. This is Google’s phone for the next 11-12 months like the N1 was. Great support, great features. It uses the top tier hardware available to date. Best screen in the industry, best CPU, best GPU in a phone. Sure it’s no dual-core, but that disappointment is purely a consequence of the stupid rumours that have plagued this device since its conception.
This will be what the Galaxy S should have been. Great hardware fully controlled by Google.
For heavens sake, the SGX540 is a truly epic GPU, and vastly more powerful than the 535 found in the iphone and ipad. Apple’s devices run great games, and the Nexus S trumps both devices with its power. Sure we’ve seen it before in the Galaxy S, but the Galaxy S is a pure Samsung phone, crippled by it’s unoptimised OS, practically no support is given to it, the poor thing is still waiting for froyo in most of America. Because of this, we have not seen the true power of the hummingbird. That is until now. And it will be glorious.
The Nexus S is not last gen. It’s current gen. It just missed the dual-core boat. And people are fixated on it.
This very website said it was hard to believe that the Nexus S could be released with a dual-core, but plenty of other websites/blogs went nuts reporting the release setback was due to a dual-core upgrade. Everyone got set on the rumours and when this was released there was nothing but disappointment.
People are too busy thinking what the Nexus S could have been.
It’s silly really. Dual core is not ready. Dual core is not supported in any android revision to date, honeycomb may change this, but I highly doubt the upcoming tegra phones will sport honeycomb on release, or anytime soon after release. That’s being delusional. Manufacturers have taken so long to release these tegra phones, and these manufacturers are catastrophically slow with updates. I’ll be surprised frankly if they ship with gingerbread.
Good luck getting your updates on these tegra phones in a timely manner.
Tegra is unbelievably powerful, no question, but in the hands of device manufacturers I think performance will vary greatly – device manufacturers tend to throw in great hardware and then cripple it with absolutely shocking OS revisions and software optimisation.
You’re guaranteed a lot of great optimisation with the Nexus S, but not with other products.
You really only have the LG Star and Motorola Olympus to choose from if you want tegra, and they were running froyo when we last saw them. The LG Star just looks horrible as far as build quality is concerned and video demo’s show it lag, and the Olympus is a AT&T phone, so if you hate that network you’re screwed on that front.
Plus remember both with be nowhere as hackable as the Nexus S, which will see huge dev support just as the N1 before it. You’ll be lucky if these tegra phones get any decent root access. Motorola loves the efuse concept. It’s crackable but it will never have the simplicity of the Nexus S.
And lastly, who doesn’t want the phone that developers are developing their stuff on? The Nexus S is THE benchmark for all future android phone applications. You’re guaranteed that apps will run as the developer intended on the Nexus S over any other phone in the Android ecosystem.
Embrace this phone and give it a damn chance. Google deserves that much.

Amen to that ^^^^ . For a moment I thought I was the only one getting a Nexus S.

I agree in spirit. I'm just salty about the lack of any notification LED and dock contact points. I want a device with polish... the N1's docking and notifications are still unrivaled, but they could at least have put those into their device.
I'll still probably get the phone and hope that some nice docks are in the pipeline so I can sell my N1 and the docks.

irishrally said:
I'm been really annoyed with all the hate being spewed about the Nexus S over the last several days. I've been meaning to post why I think most of the hate is seriously misinformed or not fully thought out, but I came across this post on Android and Me and it sums up almost exactly how I feel.
Credit to jivemaster and Android and Me:
I am first in line for a Nexus S. I’m not sure what people are waiting for. This is Google’s phone for the next 11-12 months like the N1 was. Great support, great features. It uses the top tier hardware available to date. Best screen in the industry, best CPU, best GPU in a phone. Sure it’s no dual-core, but that disappointment is purely a consequence of the stupid rumours that have plagued this device since its conception.
This will be what the Galaxy S should have been. Great hardware fully controlled by Google.
For heavens sake, the SGX540 is a truly epic GPU, and vastly more powerful than the 535 found in the iphone and ipad. Apple’s devices run great games, and the Nexus S trumps both devices with its power. Sure we’ve seen it before in the Galaxy S, but the Galaxy S is a pure Samsung phone, crippled by it’s unoptimised OS, practically no support is given to it, the poor thing is still waiting for froyo in most of America. Because of this, we have not seen the true power of the hummingbird. That is until now. And it will be glorious.
The Nexus S is not last gen. It’s current gen. It just missed the dual-core boat. And people are fixated on it.
This very website said it was hard to believe that the Nexus S could be released with a dual-core, but plenty of other websites/blogs went nuts reporting the release setback was due to a dual-core upgrade. Everyone got set on the rumours and when this was released there was nothing but disappointment.
People are too busy thinking what the Nexus S could have been.
It’s silly really. Dual core is not ready. Dual core is not supported in any android revision to date, honeycomb may change this, but I highly doubt the upcoming tegra phones will sport honeycomb on release, or anytime soon after release. That’s being delusional. Manufacturers have taken so long to release these tegra phones, and these manufacturers are catastrophically slow with updates. I’ll be surprised frankly if they ship with gingerbread.
Good luck getting your updates on these tegra phones in a timely manner.
Tegra is unbelievably powerful, no question, but in the hands of device manufacturers I think performance will vary greatly – device manufacturers tend to throw in great hardware and then cripple it with absolutely shocking OS revisions and software optimisation.
You’re guaranteed a lot of great optimisation with the Nexus S, but not with other products.
You really only have the LG Star and Motorola Olympus to choose from if you want tegra, and they were running froyo when we last saw them. The LG Star just looks horrible as far as build quality is concerned and video demo’s show it lag, and the Olympus is a AT&T phone, so if you hate that network you’re screwed on that front.
Plus remember both with be nowhere as hackable as the Nexus S, which will see huge dev support just as the N1 before it. You’ll be lucky if these tegra phones get any decent root access. Motorola loves the efuse concept. It’s crackable but it will never have the simplicity of the Nexus S.
And lastly, who doesn’t want the phone that developers are developing their stuff on? The Nexus S is THE benchmark for all future android phone applications. You’re guaranteed that apps will run as the developer intended on the Nexus S over any other phone in the Android ecosystem.
Embrace this phone and give it a damn chance. Google deserves that much.
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+1
I remember how pissed everyone was when Google closed the web store thinking they caved into the carriers demands and there would never be a pure android phone again.
So now that Google actually comes out with an even better phone everyone wants to complain? I could care less if its a dual core or doesn't have an SD card or wasn't as game changing as the Nexus One.
All I care about is the concept:
- Google phone with pure android
- Better specs than Nexus One
- Can be used w/ t-zones
People complaining it wasn't a game changer need to be happy there at least is an option now in case our Nexus One is lost. I know I sure am

You sure it's going to be the benchmark for the entire next year?
Sure it'll be the benchmark for next 6 months i'd say but heck, neither LG Star nor Motorola Olympus is ready yet and why they were running 2.2? Because they were made before Gingerbread was even ready for the Nexus S. They were built from scratch not from an existing product. My opinion, I love my Nexus One. It was the true innovation the time it came out. Who had AMOLED screen and snapdragon processor on one phone back in June? except for HD2, nobody really did. It set the benchmark for every android device to beat until now. I'm not saying the Nexus S don't deserve the Nexus name or anything. It's just isn't worth the $529 for what it's lacking. not the dual core processor either.

There is a Nexus S forum now

The Nexus S is a fine phone. As a developer, I'll probably get one in the next six months or so. But I am annoyed by the lack of a microSD slot and LED notifications. I have a 32GB microSD in my N1 right now and have it nearly filled with music. I also have come to depend on being able to glance across the room and see my N1's trackball flashing brightly in a color that tells me just what kind of communication my phone received.
So I'm not at all a hater of the NS, but I am sad that it drops some really nifty features.

Amen.
I shall be getting this phone within the next 3-4 months even after my disappointment with the lack of an SD card slot, LED, and trackball.

Ita a beautiful powerful phone.
But again I cant see why anyone would "love" it coming from N1.
Id consider it but only because Tmo seems to get cute phones instead of the big screen full featured Evos/Droid Xs of the android world.
The decision making behind the phone is just odd. People are calling it out justifiably. If this was anything but "the next google phone" its be another blip on the radar.

I'm not feeling it because there's no Micro SD card support, no LED notifications, and that crappy-feeling build quality. I HATE the Galaxy S line of phones because they feel cheap. I love how my N1 is made of real metal, and feels solid and has some heft to it.
Now, would I love a Nexus S? Sure. Would I want to dish out $529 for one to replace my awesome N1? No way in hell.

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You sure it's going to be the benchmark for the entire next year?
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LOL
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Sure it'll be the benchmark for next 6 months i'd say
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You're being generous, IMO.
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but heck, neither LG Star nor Motorola Olympus is ready yet and why they were running 2.2? Because they were made before Gingerbread was even ready for the Nexus S. They were built from scratch not from an existing product.
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Spot on, Wang.
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My opinion, I love my Nexus One. It was the true innovation the time it came out. Who had AMOLED screen and snapdragon processor on one phone back in June? except for HD2, nobody really did. It set the benchmark for every android device to beat until now.
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Agreed.
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I'm not saying the Nexus S don't deserve the Nexus name or anything.
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Fine, I'll say it. The S isn't today's version of the 1, and shouldn't have received a Nexus name.
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It's just isn't worth the $529 for what it's lacking. not the dual core processor either.
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The S has some advantages over the 1. Let's all just admit that now. Wang and I are in agreement here over this point: Those advantages, to us, are minor and are not worth ditching the N1. Wang and I will be waiting to see what drops in Q1, early Q2 at the latest.
The S isn't anywhere near the "superphone" that the 1 was when it dropped. Nice? Sure. Decent specs? Sure. The N1 raised the bar SUBSTANTIALLY. The S only raises it incrementally.
My .02.

highvista said:
I also have come to depend on being able to glance across the room and see my N1's trackball flashing brightly in a color that tells me just what kind of communication my phone received.
So I'm not at all a hater of the NS, but I am sad that it drops some really nifty features.
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1. AMEN...I just dont think alot of people understand just how invaluable this is. Its ridiculously easy to prioritize messages and hands down the easiest way to get notified. Plus for those that are hearing impaired its the only way to get differentiated notifications ((since obviously they cant do ring tones)). Evo/DroidX/MT4G/G2...do any of these phones have it ?
2. Thats all it is in a nutshell. You take the N2 give it hummingbird ,4" SAMOLED, the new form factor ,FF camera ,GB ,NFC we'd all be standing online for it.
But you add only a few things but take away some very important features to many ??
Three steps forward two steps back isnt a good way to make a mark.

The Nexus S will get love, it deserves love, but won't be getting any from me (that does NOT mean I'm a hater, just that I won't be getting one).
* As Schmidtty said, the N1 was meant to push the hardware platform, by using ahead-of-its'-time specs and it did. The Nexus S has nice specs to be sure, but it isn't running way ahead of the pack challenging others to catch-up like the N1 did. The Nexus S is the next "step", the N1 was a big "leap".
* No microSD slot?
* Funky SD/Internal/External partitioning?
Anyway, I'll be keeping my N1 until Uncle Schmidtty comes out with the Nexus Whatever that's got multi-cores, monster GPU, a 5" screen with zillion-point multi-touch and "retina" destroying image density and 16gb /system and microSD slot for whatever I want.

I think it's logical to omit the trackpad, HTC used to say that they still have it on phones to make it easy to navigate and select text. If they already solved that ( as Google says) with the Gingerbread easy text selection and editing then the only reason to have the trackpad is to wake up the phone, at least this is the way I use it.

The loss of trackball notifications has 0 effect.
Check out backlight notifications for the Galaxy S phones.
Works just the same.

Paul22000 said:
The loss of trackball notifications has 0 effect.
Check out backlight notifications for the Galaxy S phones.
Works just the same.
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Hey Paul since your one of the guys on Xda whose opinion I respect alot, what are your thoughts on the Nexus S? Do you plan on getting one?

Namuna said:
The Nexus S will get love, it deserves love, but won't be getting any from me (that does NOT mean I'm a hater, just that I won't be getting one).
* As Schmidtty said, the N1 was meant to push the hardware platform, by using ahead-of-its'-time specs and it did. The Nexus S has nice specs to be sure, but it isn't running way ahead of the pack challenging others to catch-up like the N1 did. The Nexus S is the next "step", the N1 was a big "leap".
* No microSD slot?
* Funky SD/Internal/External partitioning?
Anyway, I'll be keeping my N1 until Uncle Schmidtty comes out with the Nexus Whatever that's got multi-cores, monster GPU, a 5" screen with zillion-point multi-touch and "retina" destroying image density and 16gb /system and microSD slot for whatever I want.
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push hardware platform ahead of its time???? if i am not mistaken, at the time of its release, the nexus one was the third phone released with the snapdragon. first one being toshiba g01 and then the hd2. like 2 months later , the n1 came out. so i dont think this was a revolutionary step.

deeren said:
push hardware platform ahead of its time???? if i am not mistaken, at the time of its release, the nexus one was the third phone released with the snapdragon. first one being toshiba g01 and then the hd2. like 2 months later , the n1 came out. so i dont think this was a revolutionary step.
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I know he didn't mean it, but he should've said Android phones. I don't believe any Android phones were out with the Snapdragon at the time of the N1's release. I also don't believe there were any phones (Android phones) with AMOLED screens at the time.
The NS has it's contour display, NFC, and Google's support behind it.
But it isn't amazing. It doesn't blow anything out the water. Not much to "oooo, ahhh" about..

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I know he didn't mean it, but he should've said Android phones. I don't believe any Android phones were out with the Snapdragon at the time of the N1's release. I also don't believe there were any phones (Android phones) with AMOLED screens at the time.
The NS has it's contour display, NFC, and Google's support behind it.
But it isn't amazing. It doesn't blow anything out the water. Not much to "oooo, ahhh" about..
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The only innovative thing n1 came with at that time was the amoled screen. you're right.
About android phones, the first snapdragon on android was by the Liquid a1.

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The only innovative thing n1 came with at that time was the amoled screen. you're right.
About android phones, the first snapdragon on android was by the Liquid a1.
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Can't believe I didn't hear of the Liquid at the time, it doesn't even seem anyone even compared the Nexus to the Liquid..

After The Vibrant What is Next??? The next phone debate!!

We can all agree that the Samsung Vibrant/Galaxy S is a really good phone and a really great phone when running a custom rom. My question is what is next for you guy, as far as phones goes. What new upcoming phone will you guys get in the near future?
So far number one on my list of my next phones is the LG Optimus 2x, but is that can when Galaxy S 2 and the rumored LG 3D phone is announces. Most likely I will go with the Galaxy S 2. Why you ask? 1. TOUCHWIZ, I think Touchwiz is the best thing that every happen to a smartphone. 2. Odin, Odin practically made the Vibrant unbreakable. 3. Super Amoled Display, I can never look at another screen the same again after seeing super amoled, plus the Galaxy S 2 is said to have Super Amoled Plus Display sigh crazy!!!

I too am leaning toward the LG Optimus 2X but would opt for the Galaxy S 2 if it was coming out in the next couple of months. Have not heard nor read any real timeline for the Galaxy S 2. I also really like Twiz. I have had some hard feelings toward Samsung but I also like Odin and how it makes the phone much easier(or more comfortable) to mess with. I had pretty much decided to never purchase Samsung again but upon looking at the overall picture I feel it is the best decision for me at this time. I had a MT4G and even though I got it rooted and flashed a nice rom I never really felt comfortable playing with it. Sent it back.. Nice phone though.

LG Optimus 2X is mine, I am simply waiting on it right now. But I will NOT buy any phone that does not have the operating system I want and wait for it to come out. If the Optimus 2X does not come with gingerbread, no dice. That way I can flash some cool custom roms just for fun not cos I need the new OS
Seems like I made the right decision to not but the Galaxy Tab, will be getting the G-Slate to go along with it the Optimus2X, scary crap but I am going to be an LG guy (minus the TV)
Edit, after much thought and playing around with phones, watching youtube videos of different phones etc etc, I have decided I will stick to Google phones, ie Nexus line of phones. I really do not need much more than the 16gig it comes with, I hardly use the bluetooth anyway, and it is still faster than the current flock of dual core phones out there now...yep nexus S is my next phone. Even the Nexus one is beating phones that are a year newer at performing basic tasks fast and efficiently
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p0e5z6vvf0A&feature=related for eg for the Nexus S

Grant it, i've had hard feelings towards samsung, I'll probably end up with another samsung phone. If not, I would go back to being a Symbian Developer once again with custom Symbians for Nokia. I was, maybe still am, a Nokia die hard. I love their simplicity and all of my Nokia's lasted years.
And Samsung is the closest to what I like on a phone. Customizable, ease of use, and their hardware configuration is so simple and very nice.
So yah...

As much as I am a believer in budget is relative, buy it if you can afford it, I still don't see why anyone buys a phone cause its the "next big thing". Hype and marketing will always tug at the trendy or the ppl who are "in the know" harder then reality or common sense.
Examples span from the the galaxy s Series being released, the G1 being the iphone killer, and more recently the X2 being short of expectations per the review just put out by engadget. Now I'm not saying that the following examples didn't take a turn for the better, if not the best, but electronics and the future is almost an oxymoron. You usually are never using the final product, but more like beta testing for the next best thing. It's an endless trap of gratification vs. $/phone.
As I was one who has gone through the ranks of the G1 and a vibrant, and I Love my vibrant, but Ill still just wait till xxx phone comes out late this year and get it for free on a full upgrade after its been out for 6 months and has tons of roms and the kinks rubbed out of it, lol.
/talking myself out of buying another toy hahaha

I'm going to stick to vibrant and wait for multiple dual cores to come out. Then hit the Craig when the price is lowest :b dun really wanna switch again... went through so many phones in last 4 -5months.
Samsung highlight/ iPhone 3gs/ Samsung vibrant / HTC g2/ nexus one / mytouch 4g/ and back to vibrant again.. should have never abandoned the vibrant in the first place lol.
Learned mylesson. Don't buy the first batch
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Grant it, i've had hard feelings towards samsung, I'll probably end up with another samsung phone. If not, I would go back to being a Symbian Developer once again with custom Symbians for Nokia. I was, maybe still am, a Nokia die hard. I love their simplicity and all of my Nokia's lasted years.
And Samsung is the closest to what I like on a phone. Customizable, ease of use, and their hardware configuration is so simple and very nice.
So yah...
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Sounds like you need a Nokia N8.
But i think im most likely gonna go with the Optimus 2x. That Dual-Core processor sounds promising.

they said the benchmarks on it are insane
http://www.intomobile.com/2011/01/31/lg-optimus-2x-star-dual-core-tegra-2-fully-benchmarked/

instead of spending my easily earned money on another phone when this current phone is perfectly fine, I am going to get some custom timberland boots!!
From what i have heard, performance increase is not that much with any phone that is not running honeycomb or higher. The OS can only utilize one core, so the main reason anyone would want to get the lg optimus should be for gaming, and lets face it, android games aren't that hw demanding or nice !!

serban954 said:
Sounds like you need a Nokia N8.
But i think im most likely gonna go with the Optimus 2x. That Dual-Core processor sounds promising.
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LOL, N8 is niiiccceee, especially it comes with Nokia Qt SDK for Devs, lolol... tempting.
Anyway, that's what i'm waiting for, a dual core, and simplicity.

Funny, I can afford to buy any phone anytime, that said i love this phone and am waiting for the same reason ndwgs said. Dual Core, my next buy will probably be the xoom tablet... then the Dual core, S2 or maybe Atris..... not sure
------BTW doesn't "TouchWhiz" sound like a condition you get from drinking to much beer ?

Haha yes! Lol
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Meh, as unhappy as I've been with the small amounts of great ROMS, and lack of Sense so far, I'm keeping this phone. Over the lasy year I've gone through six phones. Moto Cliq-myTouch-Blackberry Bold-iPhone 3G-myTouch-Vibrant. I was never truly happy with a device until this one. So I'll be waiting quite a qhile before getting a new one.

Either the Glaxy S2 or the HTC Pyramid. I can't wait for MWC to start

I will never buy a samsung phone again, but I heard that the nokia e7 is shipping now and the keyboard on that thing is gorgeous, not to mention the camera with dual led flash. If I were to buy a phone today it would be that one. I'd probably go through some minor flashing withdraw but I'd get over it.
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To the op try using this rom im using now http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=935799 its a suped up version of touchwiz ^^
and on the topic i would skip the lg 2x and prolly get the galaxy s2 for my next upgrade, mostly because i dont want a smaller screen. Hopefully by then they will solve the whole timely update problems, which they said recently while releasing the "official 2.2" <-(piece of sh*t btw) that they will work harder to provide updates on a timely matter.

Heh, I'm going to wait until the second wave of dual-core phones come out, probably by this holiday season. Why? They'll be more mature and ship with 2.4 stock, which is what you'll need to actually take advantage of those dual cores. And by then we'll know which chipsets have the best performance and battery life (Tegra 2 isn't all that impressive just yet).

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To the op try using this rom im using now http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=935799 its a suped up version of touchwiz ^^
and on the topic i would skip the lg 2x and prolly get the galaxy s2 for my next upgrade, mostly because i dont want a smaller screen. Hopefully by then they will solve the whole timely update problems, which they said recently while releasing the "official 2.2" <-(piece of sh*t btw) that they will work harder to provide updates on a timely matter.
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Yea I tried that rom. I realtor like it but what I did is I pulled out the theme, widgets and touchwiz and put then on top of kb1.
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Heh, I'm going to wait until the second wave of dual-core phones come out, probably by this holiday season. Why? They'll be more mature and ship with 2.4 stock, which is what you'll need to actually take advantage of those dual cores. And by then we'll know which chipsets have the best performance and battery life (Tegra 2 isn't all that impressive just yet).
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Some have no problem getting 2 phones.
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Some have no problem getting 2 phones.
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True. I got a dinosaur phone and my vibrant. Nokia 6630 International Version and my Nex One.
Both i still use, beside my playtime/funtime/tester phone: the vibrant.
Speaking of which, when are you coming up with your Rom, Sader?
I see in your sig that you got a Rom coming soon?? I wan't to have a hands-on on that baby... No pressure. LOL

All the new phones announced yet I still want the Nexus S.

After CES and MWC seeing new phones being announced. Like for example the Motorola Atrix and The new Galaxy S II. I would still want to get the Nexus S probably because of the stock android. Is this normal, are there any other people that feel the same way as I do?

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After CES and MWC seeing new phones being announced. Like for example the Motorola Atrix and The new Galaxy S II. I would still want to get the Nexus S probably because of the stock android. Is this normal, are there any other people that feel the same way as I do?
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I watched all of CES and I've been following MWC a bit more loosely but not a single one of them makes me want to give up my Nexus S. If you could keep my SNS I'd love to have an HTC Pyramid on top of it but just for poops and giggles. The SNS is the best phone I've owned and I love it.

I feel the same way as you do, but you can also run stock on a Galaxy S II or Motorola Atrix, with Custom ROMs. Of course, it won't be the same as with the Nexus S.
I just like the Nexus s as a whole. What I mean to say with that is that stock Android and updates from Google isn't the only thing I like about the Nexus.

I feel the same. I haven't seen anything that I would want instead of my Nexus S. Vanilla Android beats all

I feel the same..

while i like direct upgrades from Google in the SNS
i really like the hardware codec support for all the media files from the SGS2, and the dual core, and 1GB RAM, and the larger 1650mAh battery, and the 8 mpix camera with the flash, and the microSD support, and NFC, and BT3.0, and...
it's a really hard decision to make, forfeit direct upgrades to get all the goodies vs. keep direct upgrades, and have no goodies
the moment of truth will come when the AWS t-mobile model 1700+2100 hit the runway then i'll let me greed decide

None of these new phones are appealing to me at all.
I'll only buy into the Nexus brand from now on. This phone has been everything I've ever wanted from an Android device.

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while i like direct upgrades from Google in the SNS
i really like the hardware codec support for all the media files from the SGS2, and the dual core, and 1GB RAM, and the larger 1650mAh battery, and the 8 mpix camera with the flash, and the microSD support, and NFC, and BT3.0, and...
it's a really hard decision to make, forfeit direct upgrades to get all the goodies vs. keep direct upgrades, and have no goodies
the moment of truth will come when the AWS t-mobile model 1700+2100 hit the runway then i'll let me greed decide
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and super amoled+. I'm looking forward to a 4" variant, if they make one.

Love my Nexus S. The hardware, the fact that is supported straight from Google, everything about it.
I'm not saying i'm not curious about the new dual core devices, but think about that for a minute: our single core phones go through a day - day and half with a 1540mA battery. Imagine the talk/standby time of those new phones with only 1650 and 1900 mA batteries. When sth just comes out, usually needs work. Like Win7, dual core phones, the android when it ws first launched.
So, i think i'm gonna wait a while before trying a new device.
Google Nexus S rules...

For the most part, I agree. There's nothing so appealing to make me want to ditch my current Nexus S, however, understand what "stock Android" means.
Yes, you get the latest Google updates, and you get the unhampered Android experience, but just be aware that Android is riddled with glitches ranging from minor annoyances to some pretty major issues. (Just to name a few off my head: keyboard issues, home screen icon and swiping issues, gallery issues, rebooting issues, SMS and MMS issues...)
As long as you understand that being on the Nexus line means you're essentially the "beta tester" for Google's Android iterations, then you shouldn't be disappointed. I'm just sharing my personal experience. I found many things critical about the Android experience on previous phones, but always had OEM skins to blame. On the NS, that excuse is invalid.

I too am fairly disappointed with all of the new phones (including the NS to an extent).
Atrix = Plastic, and has Moto's locked down bootloader (major negative, and if it wasn't so locked down, I may have made an exception for its cheaper build quality).
Inspire 4G = Nothing too impressive, still has HTCs horrible mic and speaker quality and probably a ****ty digitizer/touch screen.
HTCs entire new lineup: No dual core? No gingerbread for the Incredible? Minimal upgrades at best.
SGSII = Plastic.
Nexus S = Plastic.
I may be old fashioned, but can anyone other than HTC make a $600+ Android phone that isn't plastic? Or what? Combine HTCs metal build, Moto's excellent speaker quality, Samsung's sensitive touchscreen, and then tack on the true Google experience -- and there you have it, the perfect Android device.
Until then, the iPhone still has an edge over Android with their polished build quality. I'm probably going to get attacked with fanboi'ism (even though I've owned 3 Android devices in the last 2 years), but whatever... it's true... There always seems to be trade offs with Android devices, whether it's build, or OS fragmentation - it drives me crazy.
I'm going to be picking up an Android fun to bum around with, and it's most likely going to be the Nexus S when and if it arrives to Rogers, just because it's the next iteration of the Nexus One. I'll put up with the cheap build quality (I'll try really hard not to drop it) and call it a day.

Ill stay with my Nexy Sexy

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Combine HTCs metal build, Moto's excellent speaker quality, Samsung's sensitive touchscreen, and then tack on the true Google experience -- and there you have it, the perfect Android device.
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I 100% completely agree in that point
why it is so hard for all the manufacture to put all the best stuff together and make a perfect phone?
seems like every manufacture only specializes in 1 thing, but not the rest of the phone.
personally i wanted a phone for work and fun, so the Nexus S fit the profile, just a bit disappointing in the reception area, and speaker, it serves better as a PDA than a phone
for my girl i got her a Moto because it's radio and speaker perfect, it will always get a signal, it was designed as a phone, and it works as a phone

I must say I regret dropping $600 on this phone at the eve of dual-cores. It is not that the Nexus S is "bad"; sure 2.3 isn't 100% bug-free but the phone itself is great. I just find it really dumb of me to purchase a phone with single core when dual-cores are right around the corner.
P.S. Atrix might have a lot of things going for it, but the most major innovation I find in the Atrix is the huge battery and great battery life, without sacrificing phone size (in regards to thickness).

I'm sold on the idea of a google backed phone. Now I just need to save up for one of these and find a way out of my contract with sprint. I am just tired of the run around with updates between carrier/mfg. I think I am over the need for having the latest and greatest and can settle down with one device for a while until the newest nexus comes around. A small trade off in my opinion as I will still have the latest OS and support from great devs and plenty of time to save for the next one. Last plus for me is being able to get on a month to month service and no more contracts. I'm on my way over guys, just saving up some cash then its on ;-)
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Have you seen the LG Optimus 2X reviews? Force closes and crashes left and right... talk about half baked.
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I must say I regret dropping $600 on this phone at the eve of dual-cores. It is not that the Nexus S is "bad"; sure 2.3 isn't 100% bug-free but the phone itself is great. I just find it really dumb of me to purchase a phone with single core when dual-cores are right around the corner.
P.S. Atrix might have a lot of things going for it, but the most major innovation I find in the Atrix is the huge battery and great battery life, without sacrificing phone size (in regards to thickness).
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So far none of these new phones make me want to give up my NS either.
Atrix - locked bootloader
SGS2 - too big, not a fan of the design - I want a search button!
LG 2x - its an LG lol
I may change my mind once I get to play with these phones

Alopez_45 said:
After CES and MWC seeing new phones being announced. Like for example the Motorola Atrix and The new Galaxy S II. I would still want to get the Nexus S probably because of the stock android. Is this normal, are there any other people that feel the same way as I do?
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+1
I have a Nexus S and it's awesome. Stock Android is the only way to go.

I'm not gonna lie. I'm still thinking of getting one, even with all the phones on the horizon. My upgrade from T-Mobile isn't until July. Tax return is burning a hole in my pocket... If only they had a car dock like the Nexus One...

DarkAgent said:
I must say I regret dropping $600 on this phone at the eve of dual-cores. It is not that the Nexus S is "bad"; sure 2.3 isn't 100% bug-free but the phone itself is great. I just find it really dumb of me to purchase a phone with single core when dual-cores are right around the corner.
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Would it be dumb to get a dual core phone with QUAD CORE phones right around the corner?
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