I'm been really annoyed with all the hate being spewed about the Nexus S over the last several days. I've been meaning to post why I think most of the hate is seriously misinformed or not fully thought out, but I came across this post on Android and Me and it sums up almost exactly how I feel.
Credit to jivemaster and Android and Me:
I am first in line for a Nexus S. I’m not sure what people are waiting for. This is Google’s phone for the next 11-12 months like the N1 was. Great support, great features. It uses the top tier hardware available to date. Best screen in the industry, best CPU, best GPU in a phone. Sure it’s no dual-core, but that disappointment is purely a consequence of the stupid rumours that have plagued this device since its conception.
This will be what the Galaxy S should have been. Great hardware fully controlled by Google.
For heavens sake, the SGX540 is a truly epic GPU, and vastly more powerful than the 535 found in the iphone and ipad. Apple’s devices run great games, and the Nexus S trumps both devices with its power. Sure we’ve seen it before in the Galaxy S, but the Galaxy S is a pure Samsung phone, crippled by it’s unoptimised OS, practically no support is given to it, the poor thing is still waiting for froyo in most of America. Because of this, we have not seen the true power of the hummingbird. That is until now. And it will be glorious.
The Nexus S is not last gen. It’s current gen. It just missed the dual-core boat. And people are fixated on it.
This very website said it was hard to believe that the Nexus S could be released with a dual-core, but plenty of other websites/blogs went nuts reporting the release setback was due to a dual-core upgrade. Everyone got set on the rumours and when this was released there was nothing but disappointment.
People are too busy thinking what the Nexus S could have been.
It’s silly really. Dual core is not ready. Dual core is not supported in any android revision to date, honeycomb may change this, but I highly doubt the upcoming tegra phones will sport honeycomb on release, or anytime soon after release. That’s being delusional. Manufacturers have taken so long to release these tegra phones, and these manufacturers are catastrophically slow with updates. I’ll be surprised frankly if they ship with gingerbread.
Good luck getting your updates on these tegra phones in a timely manner.
Tegra is unbelievably powerful, no question, but in the hands of device manufacturers I think performance will vary greatly – device manufacturers tend to throw in great hardware and then cripple it with absolutely shocking OS revisions and software optimisation.
You’re guaranteed a lot of great optimisation with the Nexus S, but not with other products.
You really only have the LG Star and Motorola Olympus to choose from if you want tegra, and they were running froyo when we last saw them. The LG Star just looks horrible as far as build quality is concerned and video demo’s show it lag, and the Olympus is a AT&T phone, so if you hate that network you’re screwed on that front.
Plus remember both with be nowhere as hackable as the Nexus S, which will see huge dev support just as the N1 before it. You’ll be lucky if these tegra phones get any decent root access. Motorola loves the efuse concept. It’s crackable but it will never have the simplicity of the Nexus S.
And lastly, who doesn’t want the phone that developers are developing their stuff on? The Nexus S is THE benchmark for all future android phone applications. You’re guaranteed that apps will run as the developer intended on the Nexus S over any other phone in the Android ecosystem.
Embrace this phone and give it a damn chance. Google deserves that much.
Amen to that ^^^^ . For a moment I thought I was the only one getting a Nexus S.
I agree in spirit. I'm just salty about the lack of any notification LED and dock contact points. I want a device with polish... the N1's docking and notifications are still unrivaled, but they could at least have put those into their device.
I'll still probably get the phone and hope that some nice docks are in the pipeline so I can sell my N1 and the docks.
irishrally said:
I'm been really annoyed with all the hate being spewed about the Nexus S over the last several days. I've been meaning to post why I think most of the hate is seriously misinformed or not fully thought out, but I came across this post on Android and Me and it sums up almost exactly how I feel.
Credit to jivemaster and Android and Me:
I am first in line for a Nexus S. I’m not sure what people are waiting for. This is Google’s phone for the next 11-12 months like the N1 was. Great support, great features. It uses the top tier hardware available to date. Best screen in the industry, best CPU, best GPU in a phone. Sure it’s no dual-core, but that disappointment is purely a consequence of the stupid rumours that have plagued this device since its conception.
This will be what the Galaxy S should have been. Great hardware fully controlled by Google.
For heavens sake, the SGX540 is a truly epic GPU, and vastly more powerful than the 535 found in the iphone and ipad. Apple’s devices run great games, and the Nexus S trumps both devices with its power. Sure we’ve seen it before in the Galaxy S, but the Galaxy S is a pure Samsung phone, crippled by it’s unoptimised OS, practically no support is given to it, the poor thing is still waiting for froyo in most of America. Because of this, we have not seen the true power of the hummingbird. That is until now. And it will be glorious.
The Nexus S is not last gen. It’s current gen. It just missed the dual-core boat. And people are fixated on it.
This very website said it was hard to believe that the Nexus S could be released with a dual-core, but plenty of other websites/blogs went nuts reporting the release setback was due to a dual-core upgrade. Everyone got set on the rumours and when this was released there was nothing but disappointment.
People are too busy thinking what the Nexus S could have been.
It’s silly really. Dual core is not ready. Dual core is not supported in any android revision to date, honeycomb may change this, but I highly doubt the upcoming tegra phones will sport honeycomb on release, or anytime soon after release. That’s being delusional. Manufacturers have taken so long to release these tegra phones, and these manufacturers are catastrophically slow with updates. I’ll be surprised frankly if they ship with gingerbread.
Good luck getting your updates on these tegra phones in a timely manner.
Tegra is unbelievably powerful, no question, but in the hands of device manufacturers I think performance will vary greatly – device manufacturers tend to throw in great hardware and then cripple it with absolutely shocking OS revisions and software optimisation.
You’re guaranteed a lot of great optimisation with the Nexus S, but not with other products.
You really only have the LG Star and Motorola Olympus to choose from if you want tegra, and they were running froyo when we last saw them. The LG Star just looks horrible as far as build quality is concerned and video demo’s show it lag, and the Olympus is a AT&T phone, so if you hate that network you’re screwed on that front.
Plus remember both with be nowhere as hackable as the Nexus S, which will see huge dev support just as the N1 before it. You’ll be lucky if these tegra phones get any decent root access. Motorola loves the efuse concept. It’s crackable but it will never have the simplicity of the Nexus S.
And lastly, who doesn’t want the phone that developers are developing their stuff on? The Nexus S is THE benchmark for all future android phone applications. You’re guaranteed that apps will run as the developer intended on the Nexus S over any other phone in the Android ecosystem.
Embrace this phone and give it a damn chance. Google deserves that much.
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I remember how pissed everyone was when Google closed the web store thinking they caved into the carriers demands and there would never be a pure android phone again.
So now that Google actually comes out with an even better phone everyone wants to complain? I could care less if its a dual core or doesn't have an SD card or wasn't as game changing as the Nexus One.
All I care about is the concept:
- Google phone with pure android
- Better specs than Nexus One
- Can be used w/ t-zones
People complaining it wasn't a game changer need to be happy there at least is an option now in case our Nexus One is lost. I know I sure am
You sure it's going to be the benchmark for the entire next year?
Sure it'll be the benchmark for next 6 months i'd say but heck, neither LG Star nor Motorola Olympus is ready yet and why they were running 2.2? Because they were made before Gingerbread was even ready for the Nexus S. They were built from scratch not from an existing product. My opinion, I love my Nexus One. It was the true innovation the time it came out. Who had AMOLED screen and snapdragon processor on one phone back in June? except for HD2, nobody really did. It set the benchmark for every android device to beat until now. I'm not saying the Nexus S don't deserve the Nexus name or anything. It's just isn't worth the $529 for what it's lacking. not the dual core processor either.
There is a Nexus S forum now
The Nexus S is a fine phone. As a developer, I'll probably get one in the next six months or so. But I am annoyed by the lack of a microSD slot and LED notifications. I have a 32GB microSD in my N1 right now and have it nearly filled with music. I also have come to depend on being able to glance across the room and see my N1's trackball flashing brightly in a color that tells me just what kind of communication my phone received.
So I'm not at all a hater of the NS, but I am sad that it drops some really nifty features.
Amen.
I shall be getting this phone within the next 3-4 months even after my disappointment with the lack of an SD card slot, LED, and trackball.
Ita a beautiful powerful phone.
But again I cant see why anyone would "love" it coming from N1.
Id consider it but only because Tmo seems to get cute phones instead of the big screen full featured Evos/Droid Xs of the android world.
The decision making behind the phone is just odd. People are calling it out justifiably. If this was anything but "the next google phone" its be another blip on the radar.
I'm not feeling it because there's no Micro SD card support, no LED notifications, and that crappy-feeling build quality. I HATE the Galaxy S line of phones because they feel cheap. I love how my N1 is made of real metal, and feels solid and has some heft to it.
Now, would I love a Nexus S? Sure. Would I want to dish out $529 for one to replace my awesome N1? No way in hell.
wang1404 said:
You sure it's going to be the benchmark for the entire next year?
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LOL
wang1404 said:
Sure it'll be the benchmark for next 6 months i'd say
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You're being generous, IMO.
wang1404 said:
but heck, neither LG Star nor Motorola Olympus is ready yet and why they were running 2.2? Because they were made before Gingerbread was even ready for the Nexus S. They were built from scratch not from an existing product.
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Spot on, Wang.
wang1404 said:
My opinion, I love my Nexus One. It was the true innovation the time it came out. Who had AMOLED screen and snapdragon processor on one phone back in June? except for HD2, nobody really did. It set the benchmark for every android device to beat until now.
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Agreed.
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I'm not saying the Nexus S don't deserve the Nexus name or anything.
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Fine, I'll say it. The S isn't today's version of the 1, and shouldn't have received a Nexus name.
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It's just isn't worth the $529 for what it's lacking. not the dual core processor either.
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The S has some advantages over the 1. Let's all just admit that now. Wang and I are in agreement here over this point: Those advantages, to us, are minor and are not worth ditching the N1. Wang and I will be waiting to see what drops in Q1, early Q2 at the latest.
The S isn't anywhere near the "superphone" that the 1 was when it dropped. Nice? Sure. Decent specs? Sure. The N1 raised the bar SUBSTANTIALLY. The S only raises it incrementally.
My .02.
highvista said:
I also have come to depend on being able to glance across the room and see my N1's trackball flashing brightly in a color that tells me just what kind of communication my phone received.
So I'm not at all a hater of the NS, but I am sad that it drops some really nifty features.
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1. AMEN...I just dont think alot of people understand just how invaluable this is. Its ridiculously easy to prioritize messages and hands down the easiest way to get notified. Plus for those that are hearing impaired its the only way to get differentiated notifications ((since obviously they cant do ring tones)). Evo/DroidX/MT4G/G2...do any of these phones have it ?
2. Thats all it is in a nutshell. You take the N2 give it hummingbird ,4" SAMOLED, the new form factor ,FF camera ,GB ,NFC we'd all be standing online for it.
But you add only a few things but take away some very important features to many ??
Three steps forward two steps back isnt a good way to make a mark.
The Nexus S will get love, it deserves love, but won't be getting any from me (that does NOT mean I'm a hater, just that I won't be getting one).
* As Schmidtty said, the N1 was meant to push the hardware platform, by using ahead-of-its'-time specs and it did. The Nexus S has nice specs to be sure, but it isn't running way ahead of the pack challenging others to catch-up like the N1 did. The Nexus S is the next "step", the N1 was a big "leap".
* No microSD slot?
* Funky SD/Internal/External partitioning?
Anyway, I'll be keeping my N1 until Uncle Schmidtty comes out with the Nexus Whatever that's got multi-cores, monster GPU, a 5" screen with zillion-point multi-touch and "retina" destroying image density and 16gb /system and microSD slot for whatever I want.
I think it's logical to omit the trackpad, HTC used to say that they still have it on phones to make it easy to navigate and select text. If they already solved that ( as Google says) with the Gingerbread easy text selection and editing then the only reason to have the trackpad is to wake up the phone, at least this is the way I use it.
The loss of trackball notifications has 0 effect.
Check out backlight notifications for the Galaxy S phones.
Works just the same.
Paul22000 said:
The loss of trackball notifications has 0 effect.
Check out backlight notifications for the Galaxy S phones.
Works just the same.
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Hey Paul since your one of the guys on Xda whose opinion I respect alot, what are your thoughts on the Nexus S? Do you plan on getting one?
Namuna said:
The Nexus S will get love, it deserves love, but won't be getting any from me (that does NOT mean I'm a hater, just that I won't be getting one).
* As Schmidtty said, the N1 was meant to push the hardware platform, by using ahead-of-its'-time specs and it did. The Nexus S has nice specs to be sure, but it isn't running way ahead of the pack challenging others to catch-up like the N1 did. The Nexus S is the next "step", the N1 was a big "leap".
* No microSD slot?
* Funky SD/Internal/External partitioning?
Anyway, I'll be keeping my N1 until Uncle Schmidtty comes out with the Nexus Whatever that's got multi-cores, monster GPU, a 5" screen with zillion-point multi-touch and "retina" destroying image density and 16gb /system and microSD slot for whatever I want.
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push hardware platform ahead of its time???? if i am not mistaken, at the time of its release, the nexus one was the third phone released with the snapdragon. first one being toshiba g01 and then the hd2. like 2 months later , the n1 came out. so i dont think this was a revolutionary step.
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push hardware platform ahead of its time???? if i am not mistaken, at the time of its release, the nexus one was the third phone released with the snapdragon. first one being toshiba g01 and then the hd2. like 2 months later , the n1 came out. so i dont think this was a revolutionary step.
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I know he didn't mean it, but he should've said Android phones. I don't believe any Android phones were out with the Snapdragon at the time of the N1's release. I also don't believe there were any phones (Android phones) with AMOLED screens at the time.
The NS has it's contour display, NFC, and Google's support behind it.
But it isn't amazing. It doesn't blow anything out the water. Not much to "oooo, ahhh" about..
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I know he didn't mean it, but he should've said Android phones. I don't believe any Android phones were out with the Snapdragon at the time of the N1's release. I also don't believe there were any phones (Android phones) with AMOLED screens at the time.
The NS has it's contour display, NFC, and Google's support behind it.
But it isn't amazing. It doesn't blow anything out the water. Not much to "oooo, ahhh" about..
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The only innovative thing n1 came with at that time was the amoled screen. you're right.
About android phones, the first snapdragon on android was by the Liquid a1.
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The only innovative thing n1 came with at that time was the amoled screen. you're right.
About android phones, the first snapdragon on android was by the Liquid a1.
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Can't believe I didn't hear of the Liquid at the time, it doesn't even seem anyone even compared the Nexus to the Liquid..
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1. Release Q1 2011
2. Dual core 1.5ghz snapdragon
3. 1GB ram
4. At least 960x640 res super-amoled display
5. Touch screen which actually works
6. New version of android that that will be exclusive to the device for at least 2 months with some super cool features such as 1080p out via hdmi port
7. 10mp+ camera
8. Built by Motorola or HTC
Google.......make it happen
Sincerely,
Everyone, ever
Wont be any Nexus Two,,
My expectation is for it to not exist.
Rusty! said:
My expectation is for it to not exist.
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^ this. Sadly.
1. Your choice of 16GB or 32GB internal memory
2. 960x640 high res display
3. "Fast App Switching"
4. Front facing camera for using "TimeToFace"
5. iOS Froyo
6. Your choice of two carriers: AT&T or whatever they use in the seventh circle of Hell after you've been decapitated.
They can call it the iNexus 2
Well, it might not be the Nexus Two, but I cant imagine Google never making another Dev Phone. So perhaps these should be expectations for the next Dev phone.
I'm hoping Eric was lieng and all, i remember them saying they wouldnt release a phone but they soon did. I do hope they make an N2.
obstacles can kill said:
1. Your choice of 16GB or 32GB internal memory
2. 960x640 high res display
3. "Fast App Switching"
4. Front facing camera for using "TimeToFace"
5. iOS Froyo
6. Your choice of two carriers: AT&T or whatever they use in the seventh circle of Hell after you've been decapitated.
They can call it the iNexus 2
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No doubt. It looks like it was ripped from an iPhone ad. There's a time and a place where phone specs are over kill. Not that none of the above wouldn't be welcome... but as far as the next Nexus... well the first Nexus is still awesome.
I haven't put this damn phone down hardly at all. And its plenty fast. I think at this point, the software needs to play catch up to the high phone specs.
Nexus 2 will not happen. It's a fact.
Eric said they will not make one, and there is no reason to make one.
Android was pushed much farther and much faster then they anticipated, they have no reason to make one more Android developer phone. There are tons of awesome android phones out there already.
You'd think after a CEO tells you it won't happen, u wouldn't open threads about Nexus Two.
There will be no nexus 2 with the lamer specs, too conservative.
Perhaps the nexus 2 will ber a tablet computer based on gingerbread and nvidia tegra.
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DarkDvr said:
Nexus 2 will not happen. It's a fact.
Eric said they will not make one, and there is no reason to make one.
Android was pushed much farther and much faster then they anticipated, they have no reason to make one more Android developer phone. There are tons of awesome android phones out there already.
You'd think after a CEO tells you it won't happen, u wouldn't open threads about Nexus Two.
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BUT, that does not mean that Motorola or HTC (independently) makes a Nexus Two (not a dev phone) but a continuation of the IP.
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Nexus 2 will not happen. It's a fact.
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Sorry to be pedantic but how can something in the future be fact? What you mean to say is that you don't think it will happen based on what Eric Schmidt has said.
I'm pretty sure they said they'd never get into the phone business too. Maybe Eric's keeping his cards very close to his chest and it's all a ruse.
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BUT, that does not mean that Motorola or HTC (independently) makes a Nexus Two (not a dev phone) but a continuation of the IP.
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Why in the world would Motorola jump onto Google's trademark and start making "Nexus phones"???
It's like saying "Oh yeah, toyota no longer makes supras, but maybe we'll see a BMW Supra"... seriously.
Motorola will continue making "Droids", HTC will make their usual stuff, Samsung will push Galaxy line.
What's so bad about the fact that you have a special edition, one-of-a-kind developer phone that was released in limited quantities for a limited purpose, and then stopped selling? FFS, I was very happy when I saw that Nexus One sales will stop. In a year from now, I'll be selling mine in a perfect condition for BIG $$$$.
I see only positive in the fact that Nexus line is over. Heck, admit it, in a year or so, there will be much better phones than nexus for everyday use.
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Why in the world would Motorola jump onto Google's trademark and start making "Nexus phones"???
It's like saying "Oh yeah, toyota no longer makes supras, but maybe we'll see a BMW Supra"... seriously.
Motorola will continue making "Droids", HTC will make their usual stuff, Samsung will push Galaxy line.
What's so bad about the fact that you have a special edition, one-of-a-kind developer phone that was released in limited quantities for a limited purpose, and then stopped selling? FFS, I was very happy when I saw that Nexus One sales will stop. In a year from now, I'll be selling mine in a perfect condition for BIG $$$$.
I see only positive in the fact that Nexus line is over. Heck, admit it, in a year or so, there will be much better phones than nexus for everyday use.
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I dont believe it will be easy to sell our old Nexi (Yeah, thats right, I said Nexi). Think about it, would you buy a G1 for premium bucks now or the latest and greatest phone instead. Most people wanting the Nexus now are people like us that need the newest hardware every 3 months.
My prediction is that the next dev phone will not focus on faster, but focus on lower power. Increasing battery life has to be a cocern for them. 1ghz is plenty fast as we all know, but we could benefit from more efficient processors running at the same speed we have now.
Of course the same speed isn't as much fun.
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My prediction is that the next dev phone will not focus on faster, but focus on lower power. Increasing battery life has to be a cocern for them. 1ghz is plenty fast as we all know, but we could benefit from more efficient processors running at the same speed we have now.
Of course the same speed isn't as much fun.
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in the same way 640kb was more than enough for memory? Please
I love how everyone thinks their nexus ones are suddenly "collectors items" now, you guys are almost as bad as iphone fanboys
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+1
/10chars.
Hardware of nexus one is just more than enough.. they need to improve the usability of android os even more i guess
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google should make nexus 2 like apple made iphone 3g 3gs 4g there should be n1 n2 n3 with a better hardware and software
Google said there won't be a continuation in the Nexus lineup, sorry folks.
Promise of something better from Samsung in Feb?
Could it be the Galaxy S2?
Thoughts?
There will always be something bigger and better on the horizon in the world of cell phones. But no expandable memory and 3g on tmobile only? I'll be waiting for something else.
I talk about why I feel Google/Sammy partnership was a last minute idea, and that they both tried to get dual-core into the Nexus S but couldn't do it in time to launch with Gingerbread. In other words, the Nexus S was a rushed device, and maybe we should reconsider before buying them and allowing them to "get away," so to speak, with providing us a Nexus branded phone that doesn't live up to what the Nexus name entails.
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I am with you completely. The lack of expandable memory reminds me of the iphone, and the xmas release timing would fit into your theory of a rushed device. To me a phone meant to follow nexus one should blow everyone's socks off and this (while I'm sure it is a nice phone) isn't even close. In fact I would go so far to say that other than gingerbread, it seems a slight improvement at best.
also keep in mind that the Galaxy 2, no matter how good the specs, is going to be running touchwiz and not stock android.
if you want a stock android device, the nexus s is the way to go right now, or the G2 if you want a keyboard.
dude.. im waiting for the EVO 5 ...**** gonna fly... lol if u think like that stay away from technology
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also keep in mind that the Galaxy 2, no matter how good the specs, is going to be running touchwiz and not stock android.
if you want a stock android device, the nexus s is the way to go right now, or the G2 if you want a keyboard.
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Exactly. I'm getting the Nexus S because it's a Google phone. Samsung makes very good hardware, but they are lousy progammers. What good is great hardware when it's let down by crappy drivers? Google, on the other hand, specialize in software, and they're very good at it.
Samsung hardware and Google software, that should be an awesome combination.
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I talk about why I feel Google/Sammy partnership was a last minute idea, and that they both tried to get dual-core into the Nexus S but couldn't do it in time to launch with Gingerbread. In other words, the Nexus S was a rushed device, and maybe we should reconsider before buying them and allowing them to "get away," so to speak, with providing us a Nexus branded phone that doesn't live up to what the Nexus name entails.
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Nexus S has always been a single-core product. I've read lots of entertaining rumors about multicore, though. The belief that we changed SoCs from Orion to Hummingbird (or were going to change the other way around) at the last moment is fascinating, but completely out of touch with the realities of developing these devices.
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The belief that we changed SoCs from Orion to Hummingbird (or were going to change the other way around) at the last moment is fascinating, but completely out of touch with the realities of developing these devices.
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Of course you'd say that, it's all part of the Great Google Nexus Conspiracy
The quad-core Nexus 3 is probably being developed at Area 51 at this very moment! I'm thinking virtual screen and keyboard, holographic, of course.
Nothing is going to hold me back from buying this. By the time dual core comes. They would be talking about quad cores
And I m getting everything I need from the current generation phones. Will upgrade later if they really have something good on the table to offer
My disappointment doesn't come so much from the lack of dual-core, but more from the lack of HSPA+ support. It's baffling (but not really baffling considering I feel Google/Sammy's partnership came mid-year during or after the Galaxy S success, and they both rushed to get the Nexus S out with Gingerbread before Xmas) that they would not include support for 4G when you start to consider the Nexus S into the year 2011 (it's coming in approximately 3 weeks). All carriers are pushing toward "4G" and even some handsets already support it. Yes, it's not prominent now, but this is the future of 2011, and for a Nexus branded phone to not be future-proof makes it difficult to drop $529 dollars on - especially when you factor in the other baffling decisions (lack of SD expansion, 480p HD recording, dropping LED).
Okay let's get this clear...
HSPA+ isn't a big factor. Yet.
Why?
My Vibrant has pulled down 7.2mbps. My G2 pulled down 10mbps.
Big upgrade? Not really.
Vibrant (and Nexus S) are both capped at 7.2 (device)
G2 is capped at 14.4. The G2 however is very unlikely to go over 10 until late next year, if that.
an extra 3mbps doesn't matter much if you're already pulling down 5+. On your... Cell Phone.
However! Most people pull less than 5mbps period. If this is true, HSPA+ doesn't even matter for you.
I am a current n1 owner rooted and all that good stuff, but usually before i purchase something I look it up online and see what the deal is.
I checked out the specs it looks pretty nice(just as good as evo4g droidx desirehd)
Yeah each phone has its pros and cons, but the nexus s is ****ing SICK I was in both verizon and sprint stores yesterday and checked out the samsung phones, for they all use the same screen and the quality of the devices are amazing. Yeah there lightweight and not made of a metallic material but no1 says the that about exotic cars being light weight either haha idk bad analogy maybe.
Nexus S is really nice tbh coming from a nexus 1 owner who is severely disappointed with the plain display and HORRRRRRRRRRRRRRIBLE touch screen nexus S rocks nexus ones socks off.
Still disappointed about the video recording situation and i understand its a software issue instead of hardware which makes me very happy so no worries on that front.
Also I use my nexus one with the stock SD card which is only 4 gigs and I think that is plenty enough for me and i only fill it up from nandroid backups haha idk this is just my view on things and for those who are uncertain about buying a nexus s. Def going to bestbuy tommorow to buy me one of these then ima buy a oem housing for my n1 and new battery and give it to my brother (his first android phone) he will def love it just as much as i did.
But the matter of the fact is that i dont see why people say its a let down when google obviously knew what the phone would be they said they worked with every department of samsungs engineer team to make the phone so these specs are going to be as up to date as the nexus one was and still is.
These dual core phones although are probably going to be ****ing epic and stuff, but like honestly what are we all going to use these dual cores for? saving battery would probably be the biggest pro but like dual cores processors wtf are we gonna do play some pc games or render movies? idk thats just me !
what you guys think?
*see any of the dozen other threads about this*
Lately, as people settle down and get to know their Nexus S, the issues are starting to revolve around Gingerbread 2.3. It is chalk full of glitches and issues (random ringtone changes, difficulty in moving icons, some screen scrolling issues, and a slew of others...) which seems to be shared by many owners.
Google has their work cut out for them in future updates.
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Lately, as people settle down and get to know their Nexus S, the issues are starting to revolve around Gingerbread 2.3. It is chalk full of glitches and issues (random ringtone changes, difficulty in moving icons, some screen scrolling issues, and a slew of others...) which seems to be shared by many owners.
Google has their work cut out for them in future updates.
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but judging how fast they pushed out 2.3.1 they are up for the job
It's because everyone is brain washed by the terms Steve Jobs uses a lot. "Revolutionary" and "Magical."
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but judging how fast they pushed out 2.3.1 they are up for the job
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Not really, the .1 update is just the changes from finalizing AOSP approvals.
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It's because everyone is brain washed by the terms Steve Jobs uses a lot. "Revolutionary" and "Magical."
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ZS8HqOGTbA&feature=related
You should get a great laugh out of that DKYang
That's because people that love their nexus s and haven't had any issues with it aren't starting threads praising how good it is because they are too busy playing with the phone =D
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As an admitted Apple fan who's had an iPhone from V1, up to the iPhone 4, and;
As a guy who's tried Android - Droid X, Samsung Fascinate,
The Nexus S is the best Android phone I've ever used. There are things I still love about the iPhone 4: retina display, build quality (use of metal, scratch-resistant front and rear, amazing battery life), fantastic app selection and peripheral choices galore.
That said, I am really enjoying the Nexus S. The design aesthetic is equal to the latest iPhone in my opinion - the all-black face, the lack of logos on the front face, the curved glass (which looks great and feels great). Gingerbread is more aesthetically pleasing than previous Android versions. The customizability inherent in Android is nice. The app store/marketplace is getting better although there are still glaring omissions vs. the iPhone store (CNN news, for example).
Hardware-wise, I greatly prefer the Nexus S to the Droid X or Samsung Fascinate (Verizon). Better aesthetic, better feel when held in hand or by the face. I wish Samsung had made the back cover out of higher-quality, less scratch-prone materials. Software-wise, it's totally worth it to get faster major updates from Google than to wait for the carrier and device OEM to get their build out. Also, the lack of carrier crapware is much, much better for the consumer.
I'd like Android to combine its great notification system with on-screen notifications when the device is locked a la iPhone (e.g. push news alerts). I'd like a more elegant folder design a la iOS. The new cut & paste and text selection is nice, but I'd like consistency across ALL apps in this regard a la iOS. I'd like a unified inbox for communications from various sources. I'd like them to fix the annoying field bug when adding contacts from Map listings. Android still lags iOS in the clever use of multi-touch gestures across the OS, and it needs to address this. I should be able to swipe and delete like iPhone, vs. long press and menu select, etc. Android also needs its own form of eye candy sprinkled more liberally throughout the OS. Gingerbread's "display off" emulation of a cathode ray tube is a small step in the right direction. The OS should have a lot more of this compelling eye candy to meet or exceed the fit and finish of iOS, but it has to be "uniquely Android" or it will seem like a poor facsimile.
Hardware: I'd like Samsung to keep what they're doing, but up the quality of build materials, particularly on the back of the device. The Nexus S is a big step beyond the Galaxy S design, in my opinion, and better materials like the Nexus One had would go a long way.
In a nutshell, this is the first Android phone that I prefer at times over my iPhone 4. But not always. iPhone still has the advantage over "Pure Google" in Hardware build (some), software elegance (more), and ecosystem app and peripheral choices (most). Vs. the "non-pure Google" phones, it's not even close. People may complain that Apple is "closed" but at least they focus on what's good for the end user. The choices that are made by OEMs and carriers in the Android universe are rarely good for end users, and this is on display with the superior Nexus line of products.
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I am a current n1 owner rooted and all that good stuff, but usually before i purchase something I look it up online and see what the deal is.
I checked out the specs it looks pretty nice(just as good as evo4g droidx desirehd)
Yeah each phone has its pros and cons, but the nexus s is ****ing SICK I was in both verizon and sprint stores yesterday and checked out the samsung phones, for they all use the same screen and the quality of the devices are amazing. Yeah there lightweight and not made of a metallic material but no1 says the that about exotic cars being light weight either haha idk bad analogy maybe.
Nexus S is really nice tbh coming from a nexus 1 owner who is severely disappointed with the plain display and HORRRRRRRRRRRRRRIBLE touch screen nexus S rocks nexus ones socks off.
Still disappointed about the video recording situation and i understand its a software issue instead of hardware which makes me very happy so no worries on that front.
Also I use my nexus one with the stock SD card which is only 4 gigs and I think that is plenty enough for me and i only fill it up from nandroid backups haha idk this is just my view on things and for those who are uncertain about buying a nexus s. Def going to bestbuy tommorow to buy me one of these then ima buy a oem housing for my n1 and new battery and give it to my brother (his first android phone) he will def love it just as much as i did.
But the matter of the fact is that i dont see why people say its a let down when google obviously knew what the phone would be they said they worked with every department of samsungs engineer team to make the phone so these specs are going to be as up to date as the nexus one was and still is.
These dual core phones although are probably going to be ****ing epic and stuff, but like honestly what are we all going to use these dual cores for? saving battery would probably be the biggest pro but like dual cores processors wtf are we gonna do play some pc games or render movies? idk thats just me !
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I believe its hardware, not software. But some day can be hacked with reduced FPS, just like Nexus One
All Google and Samsung knew is that they dont need to spend money on building the phone because it already existed for 6 month. They had lots of time to test Gingerbread on this hardware, and things like lack of Gorilla, LED, Bluetooth 3.0, SD-card, make me think they ran out of parts and used whatever was available at the time.....and in the end the phone is close to $600 bucks with tax in USA and even more in EU.
for me it's hardware deficiency lack of microSD support, no Bluetooth 3.0, the software is clean which is perfect IMO
I think people that are coming from other phones and maybe some Nexus One owners are happy with NS (I would be), But people with Galaxy S line phones (as myself) look at Nexus S as a downgrade. If NS was FREE or maybe $50 bucks, then I would give it some thought, but for $600 there is nothing to think about. Ps. I dont use FFC, flash/flashlight is pretty much the only positive hardware I see in NS.
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I think people that are coming from other phones and maybe some Nexus One owners are happy with NS (I would be), But people with Galaxy S line phones (as myself) look at Nexus S as a downgrade. If NS was FREE or maybe $50 bucks, then I would give it some thought, but for $600 there is nothing to think about. Ps. I dont use FFC, flash/flashlight is pretty much the only positive hardware I see in NS.
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It isn't a downgrade at all if you're sick of waiting for Samsung and/or T-Mobile to deliver the newest and latest Android. Not only that but open-sourced kernels, Samsung Vibrant (and other Galaxy S phones) relies on leaks and the final version has not been released. Who knows when they will become available.
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Lately, as people settle down and get to know their Nexus S, the issues are starting to revolve around Gingerbread 2.3. It is chalk full of glitches and issues (random ringtone changes, difficulty in moving icons, some screen scrolling issues, and a slew of others...) which seems to be shared by many owners.
Google has their work cut out for them in future updates.
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2.3 runs fine on my captivate. I dont have any of the issues you are talking about. I read that a lot of people are having issues with the new screen. It may not be all 2.3 related.
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It isn't a downgrade at all if you're sick of waiting for Samsung and/or T-Mobile to deliver the newest and latest Android. Not only that but open-sourced kernels, Samsung Vibrant (and other Galaxy S phones) relies on leaks and the final version has not been released. Who knows when they will become available.
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I was sick of waiting......not anymore. I really dont care about official 2.2 because leaked Froyo for Vibrant is 100% fast and stable (with Nero and Voodoo). As far as 2.3 vs 2.2, for me they are the same...2.3 featuring looks and animations outside and game optimization under the hood. I already have all Ginger looks and animations, and i dont play games. I would put it this way, Touchwiz 2.2 has MUCH more useful features then 2.3
PS. It looks like Vibrants in USA officially get shipped with Froyo already. EDIT: ****ing Samsung switched the dates again
yes, waiting for 2.2 was an agony for SGS owners, now that most devices are on 2.2 it'll be another big challenge to get 2.3 for the rest of the SGS line up.
and it's true SGS takes to long to receive any Official release of 2.2/2.3 all 2.2 and now 2.3 that people got their hands on, was all leaked out or ported from other phones.
that's the only positive thing i like about the NS
People are complaining for two main reasons.
1. The hardware is nothing groundbreaking, the Nexus One was far better than anything else available when it launched. The Nexus S hardware is not bad but it is not any better than what is already on the market. I think people expected the Nexus line of phones to move Android forward, the way the Nexus One did and the Nexus S did not do that. The hardware just did not move the bar like the Nexus One did.
The only advantage to the Nexus S is the software (getting updates first and pure Android). This is enough for me to consider getting one in addition to my G2, but many people won't think this is a big enough difference to justify the purchase.
2. People always expect more when they pay more, I would bet more people paid full price for their Nexus S than other phones. Higher expectations = more complaints.
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Personally, my complaints are entirely about Gingerbread. It's disappointing to see so many glitches with stock Android.
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but judging how fast they pushed out 2.3.1 they are up for the job
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Lol!
But yeah i dont think its the phone being bashed for being whack...its just peoples expectations for the ns was set a lil too high.
Samsung couldve saved so much time just removing touchwiz from the gs
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People are complaining for two main reasons.
1. The hardware is nothing groundbreaking, the Nexus One was far better than anything else available when it launched. The Nexus S hardware is not bad but it is not any better than what is already on the market. I think people expected the Nexus line of phones to move Android forward, the way the Nexus One did and the Nexus S did not do that. The hardware just did not move the bar like the Nexus One did.
The only advantage to the Nexus S is the software (getting updates first and pure Android). This is enough for me to consider getting one in addition to my G2, but many people won't think this is a big enough difference to justify the purchase.
2. People always expect more when they pay more, I would bet more people paid full price for their Nexus S than other phones. Higher expectations = more complaints.
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.....+1 this was said so beautifully.
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with this weeks CES you would think that, yeah, ok, decent phone line ups. But to completely destroy i mean, ANNIHILATE this precious device seems a little too soon
not so.
Between the HTC Thunderbolt (HAS A ****EN 1900mah battery) and GET READY FOR IT: SAMSUNG INFUSE 4G...
...the nexus S looks like a motorola startech.
i feel used and abused. samsung upped the res, size of screen, added 4g and is added a 1.2ghz cpu and IS THIN AS HELL.
god help me. i PRAY developers stick with the plan and make this nexus S community live a long and hearty life like the nexus one. But i just keep feeling more and more that i jumped on this a tad to fast...hey..at least im still off contract?
http://www.engadget.com/2011/01/05/...ounced-for-atandt-4-5-inch-super-amoled-plus/
The phone does look pretty awesome. However, I'd stick with a pure google phone over an At&T + touchwiz device that will be getting OS upgrades ages after us. Also, I think it is a 1.2 ghz single core cpu.
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with this weeks CES you would think that, yeah, ok, decent phone line ups. But to completely destroy i mean, ANNIHILATE this precious device seems a little too soon
not so.
Between the HTC Thunderbolt (HAS A ****EN 1900mah battery) and GET READY FOR IT: SAMSUNG INFUSE 4G...
...the nexus S looks like a motorola startec.
i feel used and abused. samsung upped the res, size of screen, added 4g and is added a 1.2ghz DUAL CORE and IS THIN AS HELL.
god help me. i PRAY developers stick with the plan and make this nexus S community live a long and hearty life like the nexus one. But i just keep feeling more and more that i jumped on this a tad to fast...hey..at least im still off contract?
http://www.engadget.com/2011/01/05/...ounced-for-atandt-4-5-inch-super-amoled-plus/
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I predict there is going to be a **** load of these threads this week. so let me get it outa the way
this is how technology works! Tech is rapidly improving at an exponetial rate, the NS was not a jump ahead like the N1, is the NS life going to be shorter than the N1, oh hell yes
you knew when you bought a NS what it had and what it didnt have. do you really want a phone with touchwiz and that wont see updates for months after initial release? i sure dont.
dudeimgeorge said:
with this weeks CES you would think that, yeah, ok, decent phone line ups. But to completely destroy i mean, ANNIHILATE this precious device seems a little too soon
not so.
Between the HTC Thunderbolt (HAS A ****EN 1900mah battery) and GET READY FOR IT: SAMSUNG INFUSE 4G...
...the nexus S looks like a motorola startec.
i feel used and abused. samsung upped the res, size of screen, added 4g and is added a 1.2ghz DUAL CORE and IS THIN AS HELL.
god help me. i PRAY developers stick with the plan and make this nexus S community live a long and hearty life like the nexus one. But i just keep feeling more and more that i jumped on this a tad to fast...hey..at least im still off contract?
http://www.engadget.com/2011/01/05/...ounced-for-atandt-4-5-inch-super-amoled-plus/
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1) Not dual core. Article says " 1.2GHz single-core Hummingbird processor." More than likely this is just an overclocked out of the box version of the Hummingbird.
2) 4.5" is too big. 4.3" is too big. 4" is perfect.
3) Whoopdedoo about the cameras.
4) Whoopdedoo about 4G/HSPA+.
5) Frak TouchWIz
6) Frak Samsung handling the updates
7) Frak AT&T. They're going to screw with it because they don't want a good Android phone going against the iPhone.
8) Frak AT&T again for their network.
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1) Not dual core. Article says " 1.2GHz single-core Hummingbird processor." More than likely this is just an overclocked out of the box version of the Hummingbird.
2) 4.5" is too big. 4.3" is too big. 4" is perfect.
3) Whoopdedoo about the cameras.
4) Whoopdedoo about 4G/HSPA+.
5) Frak TouchWIz
6) Frak Samsung handling the updates
7) Frak AT&T. They're going to screw with it because they don't want a good Android phone going against the iPhone.
8) Frak AT&T again for their network.
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Pretty sure its just an OC'd hummingbird, doubt Samsung would start up another line just for 1.2ghz hummingbirds....
My first android phone was Nexus One. My second android phone is Nexus S.
Do you know WHY?
Because I want the pure Google experience and skip all of that BLOATWARE applications that makes future updates of Android delayed.
Spec-wise yeah it's awesome, but considering every US carrier is still waiting for the 2.2 update I think I'm gonna ride this Nexus S thing out and see where it takes me. Having direct Google support and knowing I'll get timely updates is more important to me than having the baddest phone on the block for all of 6 months until the next powerhouse comes along.
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Oh well, I think that's fine to skip this 4.5" phone
We could enjoy this Nexus S with Android 2.3.1 (who knows it will get 2.4 on Feb? MWC!) ...
And later on Android Honeycomb IF it is 3.0 !
Bottom line, that phone will wait early 2012 to get what we would be getting mid year 2011 (Google IO?) ...
We can place a bet to guess when the old Samsung Galaxy S will get 2.3.1
And believe me, 2012 there will be a new Nexus X ... and repeat ...
So, yes, I don't mind getting not-so-up-to-date-hardware as long as I will get the-most-up-to-date-software !
The only really frustrating thing is that the Infuse has a SAMOLED Plus screen, "that features a 50 percent boost in sub-pixel count, promising improvements both in contrast and outdoor readability." (Source: Engadget)
OP has all his facts messed up,
1) The HTC thunderbolt DOES NOT have a 1900mah battery, it has a 1230mah battery identical to the Desire HD
2)The Samsung Infuse 4G IS NOT dual-core, it's an overclocked Hummingbird
Seriously, why are you complaining, the Nexus S is availble now and using the most powerful hardware that was availble at his very moment.
These phones being announced today are announced models that would be available for people in the future.
And, none of those phones are launching with Gingerbread an they have custom skins painted all over
The phone has a TBD release date. Meaning it's gonna line up with ATT hsps+ release schedule, meaning you can expect this phone to be released near april at the earliest.
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Oh well, I think that's fine to skip this 4.5" phone
We could enjoy this Nexus S with Android 2.3.1 (who knows it will get 2.4 on Feb? MWC!) ...
And later on Android Honeycomb IF it is 3.0 !
Bottom line, that phone will wait early 2012 to get what we would be getting mid year 2011 (Google IO?) ...
We can place a bet to guess when the old Samsung Galaxy S will get 2.3.1
And believe me, 2012 there will be a new Nexus X ... and repeat ...
So, yes, I don't mind getting not-so-up-to-date-hardware as long as I will get the-most-up-to-date-software !
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My logic is like this. You can have the most badass computer on the planet but if its running Windows ME it aint ****
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2) 4.5" is too big. 4.3" is too big. 4" is perfect.
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Agreed, i tried to live with Desire HD and it was just far to big for me.
The Nexus S 4" is indeed perfect
The Nexus S is all about a pure Google experience, i.e., no crappy skin, no stripped down OS, and timely updates.
It's rather simple: if you bought the Nexus S for its hardware and not its software, you bought the wrong phone.
I didn't get the Nexus S because it had awesome specs and bragging rights. I got it because it was unlocked, off-contract, crapware-free and with os updates directly from Google.
Even if all those wonderful new phones had been available and for sale 3 weeks ago, I would still have chosen the Nexus S. Because I want the freedom. Freedom is more important to me than wow factor and bragging rights.
you guys are right
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1) Not dual core. Article says " 1.2GHz single-core Hummingbird processor." More than likely this is just an overclocked out of the box version of the Hummingbird.
2) 4.5" is too big. 4.3" is too big. 4" is perfect.
3) Whoopdedoo about the cameras.
4) Whoopdedoo about 4G/HSPA+.
5) Frak TouchWIz
6) Frak Samsung handling the updates
7) Frak AT&T. They're going to screw with it because they don't want a good Android phone going against the iPhone.
8) Frak AT&T again for their network.
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no your right man, i mean, ive been on the pure google experience from day one. its just that the nexus one's life span in regards to staying on top is simply phenomenal and as the days passed and the devs worked away, it just got better and better. so i thought they would proportionatley stick with the same principles and apply that to the nexus s. and with tech especially the last 2-3 years have been exponentially ripping it up...im just wierded out by googles decision. besides, i think we all agree that...at&t is pretty much full blown AIDs
im only *****ing because the specs being upped so rappidly.
i will still stick it through and stay loving my pure google experience. i just expected google to see the horizon a tad bit further, thats all
p.s your all my best friends and i apologize for the typos and the nagging. but come one, you cant say a slight cringe isn't allowed with such a situation.
@shrivelfig well said man. your my boy
I will say it again, though I must admit I'm tiring of repeating myself in every thread that keeps popping up on this theme. Anyone who bought the Nexus S expecting its hardware to have staying power for more than a month or two was deluding themselves. We all knew it was based on a phone that had been around the better part of a year already, and that the CES was coming up in just a few weeks, at which we were certain to be bombarded with shiny new Android phones.
The only reason I would have (and still would) recommend the Nexus S is because of its vanilla Android stock firmware, unadulterated by manufacturer or carrier. To me, and many others, this is more important than any number of cores or millimeters shaved off the form factor. If you are not, however, a person for which this is true, you will find yourself disappointed by your Nexus S in the very near future.
Well looks like Samsung has finally decided to make an RGB SAMOLED panel... the article states an increase in subpixel capacity which to me means they switched to RGB and ditched pentile for this one. You'd definitely need it at 4.5", the fuzzyness of pentile at that size would be terrible.
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I will say it again, though I must admit I'm tiring of repeating myself in every thread that keeps popping up on this theme. Anyone who bought the Nexus S expecting its hardware to have staying power for more than a month or two was deluding themselves. We all knew it was based on a phone that had been around the better part of a year already, and that the CES was coming up in just a few weeks, at which we were certain to be bombarded with shiny new Android phones.
The only reason I would have (and still would) recommend the Nexus S is because of its vanilla Android stock firmware, unadulterated by manufacturer or carrier. To me, and many others, this is more important than any number of cores or millimeters shaved off the form factor. If you are not, however, a person for which this is true, you will find yourself disappointed by your Nexus S in the very near future.
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Anyone who buys any device expecting the hardware to last is living in a dream world. the N1 was a fluke, it was just so ahead of its time dont expect more N1 like devices any time soon IMHO technology is progressing rapidly
After CES and MWC seeing new phones being announced. Like for example the Motorola Atrix and The new Galaxy S II. I would still want to get the Nexus S probably because of the stock android. Is this normal, are there any other people that feel the same way as I do?
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After CES and MWC seeing new phones being announced. Like for example the Motorola Atrix and The new Galaxy S II. I would still want to get the Nexus S probably because of the stock android. Is this normal, are there any other people that feel the same way as I do?
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I watched all of CES and I've been following MWC a bit more loosely but not a single one of them makes me want to give up my Nexus S. If you could keep my SNS I'd love to have an HTC Pyramid on top of it but just for poops and giggles. The SNS is the best phone I've owned and I love it.
I feel the same way as you do, but you can also run stock on a Galaxy S II or Motorola Atrix, with Custom ROMs. Of course, it won't be the same as with the Nexus S.
I just like the Nexus s as a whole. What I mean to say with that is that stock Android and updates from Google isn't the only thing I like about the Nexus.
I feel the same. I haven't seen anything that I would want instead of my Nexus S. Vanilla Android beats all
I feel the same..
while i like direct upgrades from Google in the SNS
i really like the hardware codec support for all the media files from the SGS2, and the dual core, and 1GB RAM, and the larger 1650mAh battery, and the 8 mpix camera with the flash, and the microSD support, and NFC, and BT3.0, and...
it's a really hard decision to make, forfeit direct upgrades to get all the goodies vs. keep direct upgrades, and have no goodies
the moment of truth will come when the AWS t-mobile model 1700+2100 hit the runway then i'll let me greed decide
None of these new phones are appealing to me at all.
I'll only buy into the Nexus brand from now on. This phone has been everything I've ever wanted from an Android device.
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while i like direct upgrades from Google in the SNS
i really like the hardware codec support for all the media files from the SGS2, and the dual core, and 1GB RAM, and the larger 1650mAh battery, and the 8 mpix camera with the flash, and the microSD support, and NFC, and BT3.0, and...
it's a really hard decision to make, forfeit direct upgrades to get all the goodies vs. keep direct upgrades, and have no goodies
the moment of truth will come when the AWS t-mobile model 1700+2100 hit the runway then i'll let me greed decide
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and super amoled+. I'm looking forward to a 4" variant, if they make one.
Love my Nexus S. The hardware, the fact that is supported straight from Google, everything about it.
I'm not saying i'm not curious about the new dual core devices, but think about that for a minute: our single core phones go through a day - day and half with a 1540mA battery. Imagine the talk/standby time of those new phones with only 1650 and 1900 mA batteries. When sth just comes out, usually needs work. Like Win7, dual core phones, the android when it ws first launched.
So, i think i'm gonna wait a while before trying a new device.
Google Nexus S rules...
For the most part, I agree. There's nothing so appealing to make me want to ditch my current Nexus S, however, understand what "stock Android" means.
Yes, you get the latest Google updates, and you get the unhampered Android experience, but just be aware that Android is riddled with glitches ranging from minor annoyances to some pretty major issues. (Just to name a few off my head: keyboard issues, home screen icon and swiping issues, gallery issues, rebooting issues, SMS and MMS issues...)
As long as you understand that being on the Nexus line means you're essentially the "beta tester" for Google's Android iterations, then you shouldn't be disappointed. I'm just sharing my personal experience. I found many things critical about the Android experience on previous phones, but always had OEM skins to blame. On the NS, that excuse is invalid.
I too am fairly disappointed with all of the new phones (including the NS to an extent).
Atrix = Plastic, and has Moto's locked down bootloader (major negative, and if it wasn't so locked down, I may have made an exception for its cheaper build quality).
Inspire 4G = Nothing too impressive, still has HTCs horrible mic and speaker quality and probably a ****ty digitizer/touch screen.
HTCs entire new lineup: No dual core? No gingerbread for the Incredible? Minimal upgrades at best.
SGSII = Plastic.
Nexus S = Plastic.
I may be old fashioned, but can anyone other than HTC make a $600+ Android phone that isn't plastic? Or what? Combine HTCs metal build, Moto's excellent speaker quality, Samsung's sensitive touchscreen, and then tack on the true Google experience -- and there you have it, the perfect Android device.
Until then, the iPhone still has an edge over Android with their polished build quality. I'm probably going to get attacked with fanboi'ism (even though I've owned 3 Android devices in the last 2 years), but whatever... it's true... There always seems to be trade offs with Android devices, whether it's build, or OS fragmentation - it drives me crazy.
I'm going to be picking up an Android fun to bum around with, and it's most likely going to be the Nexus S when and if it arrives to Rogers, just because it's the next iteration of the Nexus One. I'll put up with the cheap build quality (I'll try really hard not to drop it) and call it a day.
Ill stay with my Nexy Sexy
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Combine HTCs metal build, Moto's excellent speaker quality, Samsung's sensitive touchscreen, and then tack on the true Google experience -- and there you have it, the perfect Android device.
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I 100% completely agree in that point
why it is so hard for all the manufacture to put all the best stuff together and make a perfect phone?
seems like every manufacture only specializes in 1 thing, but not the rest of the phone.
personally i wanted a phone for work and fun, so the Nexus S fit the profile, just a bit disappointing in the reception area, and speaker, it serves better as a PDA than a phone
for my girl i got her a Moto because it's radio and speaker perfect, it will always get a signal, it was designed as a phone, and it works as a phone
I must say I regret dropping $600 on this phone at the eve of dual-cores. It is not that the Nexus S is "bad"; sure 2.3 isn't 100% bug-free but the phone itself is great. I just find it really dumb of me to purchase a phone with single core when dual-cores are right around the corner.
P.S. Atrix might have a lot of things going for it, but the most major innovation I find in the Atrix is the huge battery and great battery life, without sacrificing phone size (in regards to thickness).
I'm sold on the idea of a google backed phone. Now I just need to save up for one of these and find a way out of my contract with sprint. I am just tired of the run around with updates between carrier/mfg. I think I am over the need for having the latest and greatest and can settle down with one device for a while until the newest nexus comes around. A small trade off in my opinion as I will still have the latest OS and support from great devs and plenty of time to save for the next one. Last plus for me is being able to get on a month to month service and no more contracts. I'm on my way over guys, just saving up some cash then its on ;-)
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Have you seen the LG Optimus 2X reviews? Force closes and crashes left and right... talk about half baked.
DarkAgent said:
I must say I regret dropping $600 on this phone at the eve of dual-cores. It is not that the Nexus S is "bad"; sure 2.3 isn't 100% bug-free but the phone itself is great. I just find it really dumb of me to purchase a phone with single core when dual-cores are right around the corner.
P.S. Atrix might have a lot of things going for it, but the most major innovation I find in the Atrix is the huge battery and great battery life, without sacrificing phone size (in regards to thickness).
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So far none of these new phones make me want to give up my NS either.
Atrix - locked bootloader
SGS2 - too big, not a fan of the design - I want a search button!
LG 2x - its an LG lol
I may change my mind once I get to play with these phones
Alopez_45 said:
After CES and MWC seeing new phones being announced. Like for example the Motorola Atrix and The new Galaxy S II. I would still want to get the Nexus S probably because of the stock android. Is this normal, are there any other people that feel the same way as I do?
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I have a Nexus S and it's awesome. Stock Android is the only way to go.
I'm not gonna lie. I'm still thinking of getting one, even with all the phones on the horizon. My upgrade from T-Mobile isn't until July. Tax return is burning a hole in my pocket... If only they had a car dock like the Nexus One...
DarkAgent said:
I must say I regret dropping $600 on this phone at the eve of dual-cores. It is not that the Nexus S is "bad"; sure 2.3 isn't 100% bug-free but the phone itself is great. I just find it really dumb of me to purchase a phone with single core when dual-cores are right around the corner.
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Would it be dumb to get a dual core phone with QUAD CORE phones right around the corner?
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