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so whenever i see a new kernel i never know which one to go for, but i ussually just shoot for the cfs. honestly though, i cant tell much difference between the two. i was wondering, what do most of you guys use? and why?
I forgot where I read that BFS are usually better at managing battery life but in all honesty I don't think most on here know the difference except the kernel makers themselves lol but then again im sure im 100% wrong about that
bfs sounds better in theory but most people report actual better performance with cfs including the kernel developers
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BFS should (SHOULD) perform better in interactive environments (like cell phones), and CFS should perform better for batch operations (like server databases). BFS should work better for small systems, and CFS should work better for large scale (16+ cores/processors) systems.
In the real world, the difference is negligible, and you probably won't notice one. Of course, I still prefer BFS for the theoretical performance (And the name. Brain **** Scheduler sounds so much cooler than Completely Fair Scheduler). I guess I'm just idealistic.
Bfs always has given me better performance and most devs have recommended to use bfs so i stick with it
A drop of Chuck Norris's semen was placed on the IPhone. We now have the Htc Evo.
back when BFS was still new I was using netarchy's kernels, and for some reason equivalent kernels with BFS vs CFS, my phone was just laggy with BFS. I've stuck with CFS since, haven't really tried any of the new BFS kernels.
everyones phones tend to act a little differently. just pick a kernel builder, and try out the BFS version for a couple of days, then try out the CFS version for a couple of days. stick with the one that works best for your phone and your setup.
Hi guys!
Great devloppers do great things!
I want to open a discussion about all the SGS kernels!
Today,a lot of kernels are out, and it's really hard to say who is the better. So for a better choice, share your user experience!
SpeedMod
Project Vodoo
Super Optimized Kernel
DamianGTO Steam kernel
Tegrak Kernel
FuguMod
Personnaly i prefer Speedmod, but i just test Speedmod and vodoo. To me Speedmod is faster than vodoo, and the battery life is better. I love all the speedmod tweaks
Now it's your turn to give your feedback, give a mark, and compare!
! I don't want to create war between kernel dev, just compare and why not help dev with user experience !
PS: sorry for my bad english ^^
IMO Voodoo kernel is faster and more stable than hardcore's one, but speedmod has better battery life. It's only my opinion.
Tried SpeedMod, Voodoo and Super Optimized Kernel.
I love SpeedMod, as he say it is fast, stable, low battery drain, easy to use and thanks to Supercurio's Voodoo Sound Radio is also usable now.
i am using voodoo
Yeah Vodoo Sound is so cool
I've tried Voodoo and SpeedMod. SpeedMod seems to have better battery life.
Interesting thing - maybe just slightly off-topic, but I'm not allowed to post in dev section yet so... it's more a SpeedMod 13A vs SpeedMod 13B thing.
I'm on Doc's 9.6.6 ROM (JPY modem) and was using Speedmod 13A. Despite trying every method I found to fix it, GPS (lock and accuracy) was horrible. Today i changed to 13B and GPS performance is ok again. This seemed odd to me, as the only thing changed was the kernel. Anyone have some insight into this?
SuckerPunch
I use Sucker Punch, built off of Speedmod, the dev keeps it updated and build off of speedmod on a regular basis. I recommend giving it a try, especially if you are at all interested in OC and UV
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=930679
Hi.
I'm using speedmod also. I find it quite stable, good battery life and fast. Although I believe that most of the improvement came with 2.2.1.
What I love more in speedmod is actually credit of supercurio work... Which is the sound, it's so much better than with the stock kernel...
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GPS performance & various kernels (&settings)
Dr. Strange said:
I've tried Voodoo and SpeedMod. SpeedMod seems to have better battery life.
Interesting thing - maybe just slightly off-topic, but I'm not allowed to post in dev section yet so... it's more a SpeedMod 13A vs SpeedMod 13B thing.
I'm on Doc's 9.6.6 ROM (JPY modem) and was using Speedmod 13A. Despite trying every method I found to fix it, GPS (lock and accuracy) was horrible. Today i changed to 13B and GPS performance is ok again. This seemed odd to me, as the only thing changed was the kernel. Anyone have some insight into this?
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Played around with settings some more - enabling the lagfix for DATA_LOOP, CACHE_LOOP & DBDATA_LOOP (making all "=ext2" instead of "=false") destroys GPS performace for some reason. I only use default lagfix now, GPS is fine.
Will report back on this specific issue when I try Voodoo kernel. Very curious how SpeedMod compares to Voodoo on this criterion.
I love speedmod... Also mainly it is the only one that is able to change to warm colors. My default screen came with a slight blue tint. Now my Super AMOLED is beautiful again
I like SpeedMod for Great Sound -especially radio fm, low battery usage, and color temp. option.
IMO speedmod is the best! easier n i think more stable than others..
Speedmod ... with all the goodies of speed and battery life there is cifs and tun support
razor69300 said:
Hi guys!
Great devloppers do great things!
I want to open a discussion about all the SGS kernels!
Today,a lot of kernels are out, and it's really hard to say who is the better. So for a better choice, share your user experience!
SpeedMod
Project Vodoo
Super Optimized Kernel
DamianGTO Steam kernel
Tegrak Kernel
FuguMod
Personnaly i prefer Speedmod, but i just test Speedmod and vodoo. To me Speedmod is faster than vodoo, and the battery life is better. I love all the speedmod tweaks
Now it's your turn to give your feedback, give a mark, and compare!
! I don't want to create war between kernel dev, just compare and why not help dev with user experience !
PS: sorry for my bad english ^^
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G'day people, I've tried all of them except FuguMod, and from my tests running the stock firmware I9000XWJS3 voodoo was faster than SpeedMod but Tegrak was the fastest out of everything. Only thing with Tegrak is that it doesn't use ClockworkMod and has a market app to adjust it settings. plus it adds an extra boot menu at the beginning of every boot. its also not compatible with some apps and its version of root doesn't use Busybox which I've noticed causes some problems.
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G'day people, I've tried all of them except FuguMod, and from my tests running the stock firmware I9000XWJS3 voodoo was faster than SpeedMod but Tegrak was the fastest out of everything. Only thing with Tegrak is that it doesn't use ClockworkMod and has a market app to adjust it settings. plus it adds an extra boot menu at the beginning of every boot. its also not compatible with some apps and its version of root doesn't use Busybox which I've noticed causes some problems.
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For Bluephantom:
Wooow you tried all of them ^^
You are so brave lol. So accorded to you what kernel is the best?
Vodoo is really faster than Speedmod? I never noticed this. I find Vodoo not smoothy.
For ALL:
What do you want on kernel to be the best?
I like SpeedMod, regularly updated, stable and fast enough.
Speedmod for me
3 KERNELS
I guess there are just 3 different KERNELs for SGS, the others are just tweaks for Stupy's CWR,
appreciate all the work for Super curio, Lastufo and Stupy
There are no best kernels, just optimized settings,
I tuned my sgs so my hard died (mine was the only SGS bricked in this region), now i use stock ROm JPP (one of the universal best) and a modified kernel and have the same working speed as Darky Doc ROms have.
I've only tried SpeedMod and Voodoo, and for me Voodoo has a little extra oomph. Phone seems snappier and faster in general.
I'm with doc's 9.6.6 JS5 /JPY modem /Speedmod k13c kernel and my battery drain is kinda stressful Did anyone test different kernels with this rom?Which one has the lowest consumption? (I lose about 2& per hour idle/2g/no wifi or data)
I've been a Nexus S owner for about a month now and it's the best Android phone I've owned so far. If it had an LED notification light and better build quality it would probably be perfect in my book. Anyways, the phone has been extremely fast for me. This is also the first Android phone I've had no interest in rooting because everything works as I want it to stock.
I'm just wondering, is it worth it to root and overclock this phone? Does overclocking really improve the speed that much? Also does Voodoo really give noticeable improvements to the sound and screen?
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I've been a Nexus S owner for about a month now and it's the best Android phone I've owned so far. If it had an LED notification light and better build quality it would probably be perfect in my book. Anyways, the phone has been extremely fast for me. This is also the first Android phone I've had no interest in rooting because everything works as I want it to stock.
I'm just wondering, is it worth it to root and overclock this phone? Does overclocking really improve the speed that much? Also does Voodoo really give noticeable improvements to the sound and screen?
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yes, yes, and a huge yes to voodoo sound
For me personally, my NS goes up to 1,4Ghz flawlessly and stable and in my (probably subjective) opinion, it did speed up the flicking through my large app drawer list, for example.
Basic things like browsing, texting, opening e-mails etc are pretty much the same, it's barely noticable. Probably because the stock NS is so fast and smooth, the few percents of added speed you gain by overclocking aren't really noticable.
The main thing is the battery life though, it'll drain the battery significantly and so it's up to you whether or not you want to have your phone running a tad faster but not make it through the day, or have it go normal and last the day.
I would always root your phone.
Since you mention the missing backlight notification, if you flash your kernel to say, for example, Netarchy 1.3.12, you can install a small app that's called "BLN". It turns the 4 buttons into a notification light by blinking them on notifications, works perfect.
Also, many people prefer CM7 over the stock Android because of the added functionalities; one more reason to root your phone
I haven't noticed anything about the voodoo sound/display, maybe someone else can pick in here.
Greetz
Trust me in that you will love your phone more if you do. I don't notice the change in speed but voodoo control is a must. You'll be able to adjust the colours on your screen to make your phone POP!
The badass thing about rooting it is that it fixes the notification light problem. All you have to do is flash a kernel with BLN compatibility (Nearly all of them have it) and download the BLN app from the market.
Every time you get a new notification the bottom four buttons flash on and off
Also like Simms said, you also get Voodoo colors which make the screen colors much much better then stock.
I personally don't overclock because like you said the phone is already so damn fast =)
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I do not overclock my CPU. I don't get any noticeable benefit from it (other than increased Quadrant scores). I tend the opposite way.... I'd rather reduce power for longer battery life, so I undervolt.
Voodoo is worth flashing a custom kernel for, in my opinion. Keep in mind you do not have to root to flash a custom kernel. You only have to unlock the bootloader with one simple command.
I know what you mean about not wanting to even root. I only rooted so I could take screenshots with Shoot Me app. But I use the stock Rom and probably always will
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I do not overclock my CPU. I don't get any noticeable benefit from it (other than increased Quadrant scores). I tend the opposite way.... I'd rather reduce power for longer battery life, so I undervolt.
Voodoo is worth flashing a custom kernel for, in my opinion. Keep in mind you do not have to root to flash a custom kernel. You only have to unlock the bootloader with one simple command.
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well, since the bootloader is unlocked, why doesn't root?! =oP
in my opinion, the bad thing in flashing things is because it is addictive, you can't stop anymore. I lived fine with stock for two months, and now i can't stay a week without flash something.
as a matter of fact, you can have voodoo sound in stock kernel, just use the pay app, and if you own a slcd version (like me), you won't need voodoo colors. So the missing and must have is BLN and that was the first reason i root this thing! =o)
and btw, for me, the device is fast enought and i really like to finish the day with my phone still alive, so i don't oc it! =o)
I have noticed that everyone seems to talk about bln but does no one like the no led app? It does well for me...just wondering because I'm new to the S but not android
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I have noticed that everyone seems to talk about bln but does no one like the no led app? It does well for me...just wondering because I'm new to the S but not android
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bln is universal (works in scld and samoled screens) and uses A LOT less battery than no led...
frutelaken said:
For me personally, my NS goes up to 1,4Ghz flawlessly and stable and in my (probably subjective) opinion, it did speed up the flicking through my large app drawer list, for example.
Basic things like browsing, texting, opening e-mails etc are pretty much the same, it's barely noticable. Probably because the stock NS is so fast and smooth, the few percents of added speed you gain by overclocking aren't really noticable.
The main thing is the battery life though, it'll drain the battery significantly and so it's up to you whether or not you want to have your phone running a tad faster but not make it through the day, or have it go normal and last the day.
I would always root your phone.
Since you mention the missing backlight notification, if you flash your kernel to say, for example, Netarchy 1.3.12, you can install a small app that's called "BLN". It turns the 4 buttons into a notification light by blinking them on notifications, works perfect.
Also, many people prefer CM7 over the stock Android because of the added functionalities; one more reason to root your phone
I haven't noticed anything about the voodoo sound/display, maybe someone else can pick in here.
Greetz
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what is your setup to OC to 1.4? Currently I am running the I9020A at 1200 mhz on stock 2.3.4 with netarchy kernel, latest stable version. slightly over volted. however, it still freezes when i play videos with moboplayer. I havent been able to find a stable OC @ 1.4. It will reset and freeze overnight when idle
anyone else's input is welcome
thiagodark said:
bln is universal (works in scld and samoled screens) and uses A LOT less battery than no led...
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This is truth. No LED does drain the battery quite a bit if you aren't able to dismiss a notification right away. That really hurt me a few times which is why after a few weeks I switched to BLN and haven't looked back.
Mudblood69 said:
what is your setup to OC to 1.4? Currently I am running the I9020A at 1200 mhz on stock 2.3.4 with netarchy kernel, latest stable version. slightly over volted. however, it still freezes when i play videos with moboplayer. I havent been able to find a stable OC @ 1.4. It will reset and freeze overnight when idle
anyone else's input is welcome
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For my Phone i've never been able to handle 1.4 ever. I run mine at 1.3 and have no issues. Going to 1.4 makes my phone lock up. Every phone is different it seems.
For the record I'm running CM7 7.0.3 and Netarchy BFS 1.3.4.
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I was running Netarchy 1.3.0.2 BFS a few weeks ago. Without doing anything fancy, I could overclock to 1,4 using setCPU and it ran smoothly. I9023, GRI40 and CM7.
But, that kernel version doesn't support BLN so I had to upgrade and I chose the Netarchy 1.3.0.12 CFS and I have to admit (I just tested), I get lock-ups and reboots using 1,4 now.
Many people say it's device related, but I'm convinced the kernel has a lot to do with it as well. I don't know if BFS is the reason or not, it never ran stable on my device (even on stock speeds) and I'm much more satisfied with CFS's stability, but I think that's personal as well
Greetz
1.4 my phone just locks up.
1.2 and 1.3 are about the same for me: random reboots several times a day, with minimal if any noticeable improvement in performance in day to day activities.
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I recently tried overclocking. I found that my phone can barely handle 1.2Ghz. Forget 1.4Ghz. I tried 1.1Ghz and it seemed stable enough but I didn't see any real world benefit from it. Right now I've settled on netarchy 1.3.4 bfs and cyanogen nightlies running at stock clock 1Ghz. Phone is stable, responsive, battery life seems good and voodoo sound is great.
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Trying overclocking now. Phone seems to handle even 1.4 pretty decently. Not noticing any problems. 3393 on Quadrant, nice and peppy. I don't know if the draw on batter life is really worth it. I'll probably drop back down to 1.2 max 400 min. That seems to be a sweet spot.
Running OpenSoju 0.2.6 with the included netarchy kernel.
Hi,
Now a days everyday there is new ROM for Samsung Galaxy S GT-I9000 released.
It is very difficult for a person to choose one from the list.
So, I started the thread for discussion of ROM & KERNEL Performance, experience, Problems and Troubleshooting advises.
Participate and share your experience for each ROM you use.
Submit your Quadrant Score with ROM & KERNEL Details.
Thanks & Regards,
-niemesh
Doctorz ROM
I am using Doctorz ROM which I found very good and stable with good inbuilt applications
1. What is KERNAL?
2. Why use Quadrant to measure performance?
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KERNEL is a bridge between applications and the actual data processing done at the hardware level
Quadrant Standard is used for measuring performance of android mobile.
sry but by using quadrant to verify a rom speed you are disqualifying yourself
i din't say quadrant used to verify rom speed. I told that it is a standard for measuring Android mobile speed. being specific quadrant is benchmark for mobile performance for data writing, reading, 2D, 3D, etc.
I included quadrant in this post as the quadrant scores are different from rom to rom due to its data processing ability.
Quadrant is a random number generator, useless. there are other bench tools around but i dont really care about those tools. as long as my SGS performs for me fast and smooth i dont care about any bench results.
JVT kernels are similar to each other. so suggest Semaphore, Galaxian or TalonDev. me using last one.
JVT rom is up to you and your theme choice. all are fast and smooth. the more its customized the more problems you can get. I use almost stock. all working great and fast even battery life is good.
which kernel out there is the best right now? in battery life and speed
theres only one that fits best battery and fastest.. trinity kernel.
I like Trinity but Motley also did very well for me.
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simms22 said:
theres only that fits best battery and fastest.. trinity kernel.
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This^ look at it this way. The nexus allready has great performance, it will handle any game you throw at it. (Unless not optimized for tegra 3) so wht else do you need? A kernel that gives amazing battery life. And what kernel is that..... \l/ TRINITY \l/
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TRINITY without a doubt!!! Fast as hell and almost unbelievable battery life!
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Trinity IMHO....
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battery right now..
speed..
Ill say motley. I tried trinity kernel. Its good. But I getbetter performance,stability, and battery life with motley. All these battery screen shots really mean nothing. Why? Because none show real heavy use. I can easily get the same stats or better with light to moderate use. Show me some stats showing 8-10+ hrs of screen on time. With some heavy app or game usge. Anyone can use device for a few hours. Then leave it in deep sleep and show the same or better stats.
I've tried all the kernels out so far. They are all good. Its a matter of personal preference of features you want. Some pack things others don't. MOTLEY 'S ATM is the only linaro based kernel. So its using new additions/components. Better optimized. Benchmarks are cool but its real world performance that matters most.
I'm running stock rom with motley latest linaro based kernel with Zram, then CPU overclock @ 1.624ghz and gpu overclock @ 520mhz. I'm also undervolted -75mV across the board. So my temps stay low. Which equates to my device running at a higher performance speed longer.
The best thing about stock rom is I can measly flash different kernels and not have to worry about flashing a rom and setting my apps n all THST all over again. I can flash a kernel with no wipes and be good. Plus stock rom is the most stable ATM. Can't lie though, I am anxious to flash some roms. THST paranoid Android one looks really good. Along with the pure linaro based rom. That's the great thing about choices.
Its not a matter of who has the best kernel. Its more about what you looking for in features and personalizing your device to cater to our needs.
Asking who has the best kernel is like asking who is the best developer on xda. I don't think that's fair to the developers as they ALL work hard on roms or kernels. Forget the popularity contests.
THEY ALL THE BEST lol. Some are just more seasoned than others. Which is OK. I love the fact we have variety of things to choose from. I've been impressed with trinity kernel, based on scores I've been seeing. But I'm also impressed with faux kernel and its a more straight forward one with lots of new Linux commits and additions. All the kernels have a personality of their own. I love the fact that twrp makes it very easy n simple to try out any kernel I want for nexus7. No matter who makes it. Every developer has its followers. You also have people who like to try out different setups.
Choice is a good thing! That's what I love about Android.
I've got to say for me trinity is the best kernel for the Nexus 7, updated daily and great communication with the dev makes this an awesome kernel. The trinity toolbox app is the icing on the cake.
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Ill say motley. I tried trinity kernel. Its good. But I getbetter performance,stability, and battery life with motley. All these battery screen shots really mean nothing. Why? Because none show real heavy use. I can easily get the same stats or better with light to moderate use. Show me some stats showing 8-10+ hrs of screen on time. With some heavy app or game usge. Anyone can use device for a few hours. Then leave it in deep sleep and show the same or better stats.
I've tried all the kernels out so far. They are all good. Its a matter of personal preference of features you want. Some pack things others don't. MOTLEY 'S ATM is the only linaro based kernel. So its using new additions/components. Better optimized. Benchmarks are cool but its real world performance that matters most.
I'm running stock rom with motley latest linaro based kernel with Zram, then CPU overclock @ 1.624ghz and gpu overclock @ 520mhz. I'm also undervolted -75mV across the board. So my temps stay low. Which equates to my device running at a higher performance speed longer.
The best thing about stock rom is I can measly flash different kernels and not have to worry about flashing a rom and setting my apps n all THST all over again. I can flash a kernel with no wipes and be good. Plus stock rom is the most stable ATM. Can't lie though, I am anxious to flash some roms. THST paranoid Android one looks really good. Along with the pure linaro based rom. That's the great thing about choices.
Its not a matter of who has the best kernel. Its more about what you looking for in features and personalizing your device to cater to our needs.
Asking who has the best kernel is like asking who is the best developer on xda. I don't think that's fair to the developers as they ALL work hard on roms or kernels. Forget the popularity contests.
THEY ALL THE BEST lol. Some are just more seasoned than others. Which is OK. I love the fact we have variety of things to choose from. I've been impressed with trinity kernel, based on scores I've been seeing. But I'm also impressed with faux kernel and its a more straight forward one with lots of new Linux commits and additions. All the kernels have a personality of their own. I love the fact that twrp makes it very easy n simple to try out any kernel I want for nexus7. No matter who makes it. Every developer has its followers. You also have people who like to try out different setups.
Choice is a good thing! That's what I love about Android.
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1. trinity kernel has been using linaro since april of 2011, on the nexus s, the gnex, and now the nexus 7.
2. zram is a placibo. theres nothing there
3. stock rom is good, but i prefer a pure aosp build. no, they are not the same.
4. and the last two paragraphs are the absolute truth.
5. really, you should try them all, let your device tell you which kernel it likes the best
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1. trinity kernel has been using linaro since april of 2011, on the nexus s, the gnex, and now the nexus 7.
2. zram is a placibo. theres nothing there
3. stock rom is good, but i prefer a pure aosp build. no, they are not the same.
4. and the last two paragraphs are the absolute truth.
5. really, you should try them all, let your device tell you which kernel it likes the best
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Thing with zram is, its not for getting higher benchmark scores or immediate performance. Its more so for heavy multitasking. Is been proven to help. The placebo is on people who think its supposed to provide some immediate result. If someone is a heavy multitasker on their device, then zram would benefit them. If you not much of a multitasker, then zram will show no Bendix for you.
You are right though, about trying out different kernels and such. Pure aosp rom sounds good. I just hate having to reset up my apps n stuff. I know titanium good for that but me personally, I'm waiting for roms to mature more and have most things, of not everything working. All roms so far seem to have something not working yet. Which is fine. Nature of the beast.
I think I might give trinity kernel another try. I did buy the tkt app. But never used it in conjunction with the kernel. I bought it just for the automatic script it runs..lol plus to show support. I heard tkt app works best with trinity kernel plus allows you to tweak features only in trinity kernel.
Ill download the latest build Trinity has and see what's up. Performance and better battery life is always a good thing. Its gpu is overclocked to 520mhz also?
Trinity HANDS DOWN its been 3 hours on sleep and ITS still at 100%! + the ridiculous speed along with the power saving features. I may be new to the Nexus 7 scene but this is hands down to godly .
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Thing with zram is, its not for getting higher benchmark scores or immediate performance. Its more so for heavy multitasking. Is been proven to help. The placebo is on people who think its supposed to provide some immediate result. If someone is a heavy multitasker on their device, then zram would benefit them. If you not much of a multitasker, then zram will show no Bendix for you.
You are right though, about trying out different kernels and such. Pure aosp rom sounds good. I just hate having to reset up my apps n stuff. I know titanium good for that but me personally, I'm waiting for roms to mature more and have most things, of not everything working. All roms so far seem to have something not working yet. Which is fine. Nature of the beast.
I think I might give trinity kernel another try. I did buy the tkt app. But never used it in conjunction with the kernel. I bought it just for the automatic script it runs..lol plus to show support. I heard tkt app works best with trinity kernel plus allows you to tweak features only in trinity kernel.
Ill download the latest build Trinity has and see what's up. Performance and better battery life is always a good thing. Its gpu is overclocked to 520mhz also?
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im not sure if gpus oc...but when u underclock..theres absolutely no performance difference..and saves battery too! 102mhz-1100mhz on demand/deadline..god like battery life. 4 hours screen time...still 45% left...shouldve been more if i didnt flash roms in between battery life. also under clocked, gta 3 and cs portable runs great and smooth still.
thanks to simms, I tried out trinity again. I flashed the latest builds. ran some benchmarks. for some reason, my device doesn't like the highest speed on benchmarks. it kept rebooting during them. so I stayed at 1.5ghz. governor I used was performance and on demand. for scheduler I ran with deadline. i forced cpu online and put fysnc on faster, thanks to TKT app. on quadrant, I was more concerned with seeing if I could achieve those crazy high I/O scores. which I did. my overall score was good but I've gotten higher on motley. it could be higher on this kernel if I get the 1.6ghz+ speed to stick. I was more impressed with my rl sqlite benchmark test. scored 18 seconds overall. which blows away the competition.
so I'm impressed with latest version of kernel. definitely better than the older build I ran of it from before. some things I've noticed though. where is the ability to undervolt at? no option in tkt app and the voltages tab disappeared from system tuner. also, this build gpu isn't overclocked. or might be better for me to say its definitely not running at 520mhz. I could tell this by the fps from quadrant. its running 59-60fps. on motley with 520mhz gpu I get 70-80+fps. just some things I noticed. not necessarily drawbacks. kernel runs very good. just got to figure how to make higher speed stick. since I can't seem to adjust voltages on this build, I can't increase voltage or undervolt it. if this can be done on trinity kernel, let me know how. its not showing voltages in tkt app or system tuner.
overall very good kernel. will run it for a while to see how battery life is. I will likely underclock it like above poster mentioned for best battery life. I noticed nexus 7 still runs great underclocked. no lag.,no matter what kernel I'm using.
I've attached screenshots of my benches on latest trinity overclocked @ 1.5ghz. I know my device can take 1.6ghz cuz on motley I can run the speed fine, even through benches. so have to see why its not taking on trinity kernel. maybe voltage needs to be increased.
so it doesnt matter if trinity is still in experimental? its that good? i guess ill try that one out
demandarin said:
thanks to simms, I tried out trinity again. I flashed the latest builds. ran some benchmarks. for some reason, my device doesn't like the highest speed on benchmarks. it kept rebooting during them. so I stayed at 1.5ghz. governor I used was performance and on demand. for scheduler I ran with deadline. i forced cpu online and put fysnc on faster, thanks to TKT app. on quadrant, I was more concerned with seeing if I could achieve those crazy high I/O scores. which I did. my overall score was good but I've gotten higher on motley. it could be higher on this kernel if I get the 1.6ghz+ speed to stick. I was more impressed with my rl sqlite benchmark test. scored 18 seconds overall. which blows away the competition.
so I'm impressed with latest version of kernel. definitely better than the older build I ran of it from before. some things I've noticed though. where is the ability to undervolt at? no option in tkt app and the voltages tab disappeared from system tuner. also, this build gpu isn't overclocked. or might be better for me to say its definitely not running at 520mhz. I could tell this by the fps from quadrant. its running 59-60fps. on motley with 520mhz gpu I get 70-80+fps. just some things I noticed. not necessarily drawbacks. kernel runs very good. just got to figure how to make higher speed stick. since I can't seem to adjust voltages on this build, I can't increase voltage or undervolt it. if this can be done on trinity kernel, let me know how. its not showing voltages in tkt app or system tuner.
overall very good kernel. will run it for a while to see how battery life is. I will likely underclock it like above poster mentioned for best battery life. I noticed nexus 7 still runs great underclocked. no lag.,no matter what kernel I'm using.
I've attached screenshots of my benches on latest trinity overclocked @ 1.5ghz. I know my device can take 1.6ghz cuz on motley I can run the speed fine, even through benches. so have to see why its not taking on trinity kernel. maybe voltage needs to be increased.
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there are more features that are going to be added, theyre being added all the time. ask gnex owners how the options grew(same app btw, different devices running trinity see different features in the app. so you purchase it once, and use it on multi devices. btw, voltage adjustment will be added, remember how new development is on the n7. also, if other developers added the options into their kernels, theyed be able to use those features with their kernels
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azoller1 said:
so it doesnt matter if trinity is still in experimental? its that good? i guess ill try that one out
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thats just trinitys method of rotating the kernels.. starts off in experimental(every kernel is tested to boot and run before it every appears here), then it graduates to prerelease if it makes the cut, and then if you guys like it it makes its way to release. its just that trinity development is so new here that there isnt a prerelease yet
jarjar124 said:
im not sure if gpus oc...but when u underclock..theres absolutely no performance difference..and saves battery too! 102mhz-1100mhz on demand/deadline..god like battery life. 4 hours screen time...still 45% left...shouldve been more if i didnt flash roms in between battery life. also under clocked, gta 3 and cs portable runs great and smooth still.
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I've underclocked mines to 1.1ghz also. battery doesn't want to budge from 100% so far..lol. it's barley sipping battery. the UI and browser is fluid n smooth at this underclock. which is a good thing. the real test will come once I play nova3 shortly. if it plays lag free on this lower speed then underclocking is a winner. I set my governor to interactive though. you get better battery life than ondemand. using deadline also. with fsync set to faster.
simms22 said:
there are more features that are going to be added, theyre being added all the time. ask gnex owners how the options grew(same app btw, different devices running trinity see different features in the app. so you purchase it once, and use it on multi devices. btw, voltage adjustment will be added, remember how new development is on the n7. also, if other developers added the options into their kernels, theyed be able to use those features with their kernels
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thats just trinitys method of rotating the kernels.. starts off in experimental(every kernel is tested to boot and run before it every appears here), then it graduates to prerelease if it makes the cut, and then if you guys like it it makes its way to release. its just that trinity development is so new here that there isnt a prerelease yet
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I understand nexus 7 is still infancy, developement wise. its cool. just wondering if those features were included since the option disappeared. I could undervolt or increase voltage on motley kernel. the tkt app would let me do it on THST kernel as the section shows for it. but I like using system tuner for undervolting when I was on motleys kernel. can't wait to see what new features get added. plus once I get my new phone, hopefully there'll be a trinity kernel out for it so I can use tkt app with it. the build is very good.
demandarin said:
thanks to simms, I tried out trinity again. I flashed the latest builds. ran some benchmarks. for some reason, my device doesn't like the highest speed on benchmarks. it kept rebooting during them. so I stayed at 1.5ghz. governor I used was performance and on demand. for scheduler I ran with deadline. i forced cpu online and put fysnc on faster, thanks to TKT app. on quadrant, I was more concerned with seeing if I could achieve those crazy high I/O scores. which I did. my overall score was good but I've gotten higher on motley. it could be higher on this kernel if I get the 1.6ghz+ speed to stick. I was more impressed with my rl sqlite benchmark test. scored 18 seconds overall. which blows away the competition.
so I'm impressed with latest version of kernel. definitely better than the older build I ran of it from before. some things I've noticed though. where is the ability to undervolt at? no option in tkt app and the voltages tab disappeared from system tuner. also, this build gpu isn't overclocked. or might be better for me to say its definitely not running at 520mhz. I could tell this by the fps from quadrant. its running 59-60fps. on motley with 520mhz gpu I get 70-80+fps. just some things I noticed. not necessarily drawbacks. kernel runs very good. just got to figure how to make higher speed stick. since I can't seem to adjust voltages on this build, I can't increase voltage or undervolt it. if this can be done on trinity kernel, let me know how. its not showing voltages in tkt app or system tuner.
overall very good kernel. will run it for a while to see how battery life is. I will likely underclock it like above poster mentioned for best battery life. I noticed nexus 7 still runs great underclocked. no lag.,no matter what kernel I'm using.
I've attached screenshots of my benches on latest trinity overclocked @ 1.5ghz. I know my device can take 1.6ghz cuz on motley I can run the speed fine, even through benches. so have to see why its not taking on trinity kernel. maybe voltage needs to be increased.
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Interesting, 70-80fps, more than the panel.
You were interested in battery in an earlier post, this is me feeling meh and couching most of Sunday.
EDIT: Yes, emailing, tapatalk, browsing for laptop and not finding any, reading news in Pulse and flipboard, tweetcaster and testing slice(s?), gtalk, not heavy usage obviously. Screen wasn't on unless The Seven was used though.
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morfic said:
Interesting, 70-80fps, more than the panel.
You were interested in battery in an earlier post, this is me feeling meh and couching most of Sunday.
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what is this?? 7hrs screen time and 30%??
jarjar124 said:
what is this?? 7hrs screen time and 30%??
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Expect no less.