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10inch Tab on the Way

Something that's been on a few sites over the past few days: A ten inch version of the tab is slated to appear in 2011. Details seem a little scanty, but I think we can assume it'll run the same specs with a 10inch display. Must have a bigger battery, since it'll be physically bigger and have a more demanding screen, but if that translates to more actual life-time is yet to be seen.
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I think we'll see it similarly dropping on just about every major carrier, and with a Wifi only version too.
So, would the 10inch Tab interest you more than the 7inch ?
Personally, I am much more about something that fits into a jacket pocket, but for those who have been grumbling about a 7inch not being worth it over a high end smartphone, maybe this is the device for you. For anyone worrying about price (which is apparently a lot of people) would 3 extra inches of real estate for only a few extra bucks make you look more favourably on it ?
Obviously, this seems to be aiming at competing with the similarly sized Archos, although probably without the harddrive option, but then again we've had rumours of USB host, which would allow expanding the storage.
As a final piece of theory crafting: Could this be the rumoured SAMOLED Tab for next year ? I always thought it would be weird to upgrade the standard Tab so quickly, and if this device stays around 1024x768 (can't see them going higher before a substantial OS update) then SAMOLED would dramatically improve the video viewing experience though better contrast and colours without having to up the pixel density.
So yeah... What do you guys think ? Better ? Worse ? Is samsung trying to make every single possible permutation of the Galaxy hardware ?

i personally want the 7 inch version. i want to have something that i can slip in my pocket and take with me everywhere.
10 inch is nice though. it is always good to have another option, after all, different people want different things. whether or not it has SAMOLED well depend on if Samsung's new manufacturing plant is finished. once they have the capacity to meet the demand, i am sure they will start to move all of their products in the direction of SAMOLED.
i think the 10 inch version will release with either gingerbread or honeycomb. Samsung has hinted that honeycomb will be a whole new user experience, which is why the 7 inch tab will not get upgraded beyond gingerbread. anyway, gingerbread/honeycomb should allow the 10 inch Tab to have a higher resolution, and if i remember correctly should be available by the end of 2010.

unitea said:
i personally want the 7 inch version. i want to have something that i can slip in my pocket and take with me everywhere.
10 inch is nice though. it is always good to have another option, after all, different people want different things. whether or not it has SAMOLED well depend on if Samsung's new manufacturing plant is finished. once they have the capacity to meet the demand, i am sure they will start to move all of their products in the direction of SAMOLED.
i think the 10 inch version will release with either gingerbread or honeycomb. Samsung has hinted that honeycomb will be a whole new user experience, which is why the 7 inch tab will not get upgraded beyond gingerbread. anyway, gingerbread/honeycomb should allow the 10 inch Tab to have a higher resolution, and if i remember correctly should be available by the end of 2010.
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Would be nice we would have a phone which is small and a possibility to hook an external display/keyboard (5 inch, 7 inch, 10 inch, 12 inch, 19 inch, 21 inch). So you have the best of both worlds

unitea said:
i think the 10 inch version will release with either gingerbread or honeycomb. Samsung has hinted that honeycomb will be a whole new user experience, which is why the 7 inch tab will not get upgraded beyond gingerbread. anyway, gingerbread/honeycomb should allow the 10 inch Tab to have a higher resolution, and if i remember correctly should be available by the end of 2010.
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It'll all depend on exactly when the 10inch drops I guess. Samsung has been dragging its feet on a Froyo update, so we'll have to wait and see with Gingerbread, but a ten inch screen would definitely look handsome at the proposed 1366×768.
Personally, I think that if the 10inch gets Honeycomb, then the 7inch will too. I mean, we're talking about identical hardware, as far as I know anyway.

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It'll all depend on exactly when the 10inch drops I guess. Samsung has been dragging its feet on a Froyo update, so we'll have to wait and see with Gingerbread, but a ten inch screen would definitely look handsome at the proposed 1366×768.
Personally, I think that if the 10inch gets Honeycomb, then the 7inch will too. I mean, we're talking about identical hardware, as far as I know anyway.
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hey, if samsung doesn't want to upgrade it to honeycomb, we can

10inch ftw. I have a Vibrant for my pocket.

unitea said:
hey, if samsung doesn't want to upgrade it to honeycomb, we can
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Hehe indeed. It's all the same hardware, so if any in the Galaxy line gets honey, then it shouldn't be a major problem to move it to the others.

Elocity A10 available for pre-order January 17 starting at ~$450

So I was wondering if anyone was thinking about purchasing the new A10 that'll be available for pre-order January 17? I was watching a few videos on youtube featuring the A10 at CES and it looks amazing. The screen resolution of 1366x768 is what is swaying me to want to purchase it. I have to say, after owning the Viewsonic G-Tab, I'm not thrilled about lugging around a 10.1" inch device, but the A10 is tempting.
I really like the A7 but the lack of true multitouch is starting to bother me (not to mention the low screen resolution- after playing the Galaxy tab at a Verizon store, I definitely saw what I was missing out on). I do love the portability of a 7 inch device but after going through all of the 7 inch devices showcased at CES not a single one has the three things I'm looking for in a device (Tegra 2 chipset, high screen resolution, and an HDMI-out port).
It seems as though the next gen of A7s will have these three features, but they won't be available until sometime in March, if that (I can't wait that long!)
So question is, is it better to just keep the A7 and wait until March? Or suck it up and return the A7 and preorder the A10?

I am planning on keeping my A7, and then ebay-ing it when someone better comes out.. I got mine for $299.. I figure that I could probably get around $200 in return (considering it will be up-to-date, with market enabled and all the trimmings).. I am taking very good care of it so it will be in a brand-new state...

Lindarose84 said:
So I was wondering if anyone was thinking about purchasing the new A10... So question is, is it better to just keep the A7 and wait until March? Or suck it up and return the A7 and preorder the A10?
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I'm leaning toward returning the A7. I love the size and speed... weight and screen are just OK... but the lack of USB-computer connection, unreliable or non-working multitouch, broken Flash, and an inconsistent WiFi is what's making rethink this tablet.
I had the GTab and Archos 10 inch units, which I also returned for different reasons, and I find 7 inches to be the best option. I do wish they made an 8 inch tablet, though...
I'll wait a little longer before I buy another tablet.

I'll echo on the 8" comment, it would still fit in large pockets.
I would only consider 10" tablets as light as the Archos, and it has crippled hardware IMO.

So after much deliberation, I've decided to return the A7 (just finished packing it up today for the UPS guy to come pick it up). It was a really tough decision since I realllllllly love this thing, but I didn't realize how much of a multitouch user I was (in both the apps I use and in the browser) and it was really hard getting used to not having that. I had just fallen in love with Angry Birds when I got the Viewsonic GTab and while I'm glad it finally worked on the A7, its impossible to play when you can't zoom out to see where you're aiming the birds!
The crippled USB port, the bulky form factor and the lower res screen were also deciding factors for me as well. I've decided, instead of getting the A10 (since I just cannot walk around with a 10" device), that I will get the Samsung Galaxy Tab to hold me over until the new line of A7s come out in March.
I'm sure the development on the A7 will only grow until then so it'll be great to come back to that. In the meantime, as I did with the Gtab devs, I will be more than happy to donate to A7 devs for their awesome work (especially Dexter!).

Lindarose84 said:
So I was wondering if anyone was thinking about purchasing the new A10 that'll be available for pre-order January 17? I was watching a few videos on youtube featuring the A10 at CES and it looks amazing. The screen resolution of 1366x768 is what is swaying me to want to purchase it. I have to say, after owning the Viewsonic G-Tab, I'm not thrilled about lugging around a 10.1" inch device, but the A10 is tempting.
I really like the A7 but the lack of true multitouch is starting to bother me (not to mention the low screen resolution- after playing the Galaxy tab at a Verizon store, I definitely saw what I was missing out on). I do love the portability of a 7 inch device but after going through all of the 7 inch devices showcased at CES not a single one has the three things I'm looking for in a device (Tegra 2 chipset, high screen resolution, and an HDMI-out port).
It seems as though the next gen of A7s will have these three features, but they won't be available until sometime in March, if that (I can't wait that long!)
So question is, is it better to just keep the A7 and wait until March? Or suck it up and return the A7 and preorder the A10?
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I got to play with the A10 at CES 2011. I should have the video up tonight on my website. I was excited about eLocity's enthusiasm over their upcoming devices. They look to be well made devices with a price point for almost anyone. The new A7's and A10's will have several different models available with the difference mainly just being the size of internal storage on the devices. The A10 will top out at 256GB and cost $999, with the first model being 4GB and costing $449. All will be Tegra 2 devices and have true multi-touch as well as the highest resolution then on any other upcoming tablet.
Should have the video up tonight...
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Here is the video from CES 2011 of the eLocity A10.
http://www.mytabletlife.com/2011/01/15/video-elocity-a10-ces-2011/
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Looks like a nice looking devie with solid specs. I believe the battery life is still 5 hours, and that's no where as good my g tablet.
The real question is will it fun most market apps without issues. Seem mot of these tablet (from small company's or rebrands) have great specs but have issues running many apps. THey require fixes and XDA support, even then they arn't 100% fixed. Hope that changes with time.

RojasTKD said:
Looks like a nice looking devie with solid specs. I believe the battery life is still 5 hours, and that's no where as good my g tablet.
The real question is will it fun most market apps without issues. Seem mot of these tablet (from small company's or rebrands) have great specs but have issues running many apps. THey require fixes and XDA support, even then they arn't 100% fixed. Hope that changes with time.
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I dont think the A10 will be 10 hours life. The Chief Engineer had told me that that the battery life on the A7 was due to the battery they used and size issues. I would figure that shouldn't be an issue for the 10 inch units.
I would hope 5 hours isn't the case, as almost every 10 inch tablet out or coming out promises 8-12 hours..
As far as the issues, I think this has to do more with the fact that the Tegra 2 was new. The Viewsonic G-Tablet and eLocity A7 a long with a few others were the first to have Tegra 2 tablets to the market. Next few months almost EVERY tablet coming out will have it.. so look for there to less issues. Some of the other issues are just smaller companies going through some growing pains..
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cpg716 said:
I dont think the A10 will be 10 hours life. The Chief Engineer had told me that that the battery life on the A7 was due to the battery they used and size issues. I would figure that shouldn't be an issue for the 10 inch units.
I would hope 5 hours isn't the case, as almost every 10 inch tablet out or coming out promises 8-12 hours..
As far as the issues, I think this has to do more with the fact that the Tegra 2 was new. The Viewsonic G-Tablet and eLocity A7 a long with a few others were the first to have Tegra 2 tablets to the market. Next few months almost EVERY tablet coming out will have it.. so look for there to less issues. Some of the other issues are just smaller companies going through some growing pains..
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I hope the issues get worked out with more Tegra 2 tablets coming out. Still I think the battery life will hamper the A10. See link below...
http://liliputing.com/2011/01/first-look-at-stream-tvs-new-elocity-tablet-lineup.html/a7-specs

RojasTKD said:
I hope the issues get worked out with more Tegra 2 tablets coming out. Still I think the battery life will hamper the A10. See link below...
http://liliputing.com/2011/01/first-look-at-stream-tvs-new-elocity-tablet-lineup.html/a7-specs
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Well, those specs sheets are all messed up, because it says the device is only 8 inches... those are mostly the specs of the A7 if you look and not the A10. I have the press kit, and that battery life listing is only for the A7. I am not saying for sure, but just saying those spec listings are for the A7 devices since it lists the wrong size and weight of the devices..
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cpg716 said:
Well, those specs sheets are all messed up, because it says the device is only 8 inches... those are mostly the specs of the A7 if you look and not the A10. I have the press kit, and that battery life listing is only for the A7. I am not saying for sure, but just saying those spec listings are for the A7 devices since it lists the wrong size and weight of the devices..
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Hope so... they really should get their specs straight.
Honestly, it won't make much of a difference to me I have a 10" g tablet and a 7" eLocity A7. I don't see another tablet in my future this year.

A10 specs say it's an IPS screen? I hope that's legit...

roebeet said:
A10 specs say it's an IPS screen? I hope that's legit...
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Well they lied about the multi-touch the first time....so never buy another tablet from Elocity again. There are so many reputable brands coming out soon, I 'd rather deal with them.

rogconnect said:
Well they lied about the multi-touch the first time....so never buy another tablet from Elocity again. There are so many reputable brands coming out soon, I 'd rather deal with them.
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Not sure they lied about multi-touch? From what I remember this was the mistake of Amazon reporting it was multi-touch. I could be wrong, but thats what I recall happening.
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roebeet said:
A10 specs say it's an IPS screen? I hope that's legit...
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Yes, that confirmed that with me at CES 2011. I will say however the one on the floor didnt blow me away.
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I'd probably treat this with the same skepticism as the NIA - I'd prefer to wait until reviews come in before I decide anything (this is good anyway since I'm not buying anything for at least a month). An IPS screen would definitely put this a step up from the GTablet, assuming the other specs are similar.
I was lucky with the GTablet, but it was also less risky since it was a B&M store with a return policy.

roebeet said:
I'd probably treat this with the same skepticism as the NIA - I'd prefer to wait until reviews come in before I decide anything (this is good anyway since I'm not buying anything for at least a month). An IPS screen would definitely put this a step up from the GTablet, assuming the other specs are similar.
I was lucky with the GTablet, but it was also less risky since it was a B&M store with a return policy.
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I do think they have learned from the release of the A7. StreamTV Networks Inc. has several tablets coming out in the eLocity line, plus phone/tablets in 3 and 5 inch sizes, plus 3D Televisions and picture frames.. They have a lot going on... and the eLocity A7 was their debut product.. I think the A10's will be a competitive line.
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Anyone find a preorder page anywhere?
I think they forgot about Martin Luther King Jr. Day

xaueious said:
Anyone find a preorder page anywhere?
I think they forgot about Martin Luther King Jr. Day
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Still not seeing it anywhere...
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Galaxy Tab 7.7

Did you guys see the hands on video yet? 720p SAMOLED+ screen, exynos internal and an external sd slot in a thinner package
I'm not sure if it's the exynos internal or the 3.2 but the rotation and home screen transition looked extremely smooth
http://www.engadget.com/2011/09/01/samsung-galaxy-tab-7-7-hands-on-video/

I like the size of it. Very portable.
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cdf3 said:
I like the size of it. Very portable.
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i'm more excited about the specs and basic performance it's exhibiting on the video

Screen is way too small. Whats the point of buying this?

5thElement said:
Screen is way too small. Whats the point of buying this?
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Eh, the 7" is a great size for traveling.

i think ill sell my 10" when this comes out, it'll be nice to get off the tegra 2 and get something a little more portable

I'm more interested in the Samsung Galaxy Note for my next phone. I thought anything bigger than 4.5" would be too bit for a phone, but after watching the videos, it seems fine. I guess the thinness and tiny bezel help a lot. Sadly we probably won't see it on US carriers for 6 months.

No Kal-El... no thanks!
What's the point of getting something that will be obsolete a couple of months later. Asus has plans to release a Kal-El tablet this year even.
Besides, I'm getting the Galaxy SII phone with a 4.5" display. 7.7" would be too small of a jump from it.

i just wish the 10.1 would have come with exynos.
and the ppi on those screens!!

I had a Euro Galaxy Tab 7" and while it was very portable. I kept wishing it was bigger when playing games. Especially, when play Order & Chaos. The new 7.7 is tempting but I learned my lesson once already. If I were to switch, the 8.9 would probably be the one for me.
BTW, love the Samsung Note. I wonder which SoC its using? Anyone have the complete specs for it?

It's running the same as the 7.7, we know that haha.
The note sounds sweet! 5.3" super amoled at 1280x800....damn
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Seriously if you already have a smart phone there is no need for a tablet with a screen less than 10".

5thElement said:
Seriously if you already have a smart phone there is no need for a tablet with a screen less than 10".
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Says who? Is it comfortable reading a book on a 3.5-4" screen smartphone? Surfing the full-mode web? Didn't think so.
7" is most likely the sweet spot for portable tablets, and the reason why all e-readers are around that size. The perfect tablet size for me would be 8-9" as well.

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Seriously if you already have a smart phone there is no need for a tablet with a screen less than 10".
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That's bull. My OG Tab is still used every day (though it gets retired the minute I can get my hands on that 7.7), along with my old 4" SGS and my current 4.3" SGS2, and I have a Tab 10.1
Different tools for different jobs.

This looks fantastic! Got the 10.1 myself and while it's awesome, this HD resolution, MircroSD slot, Dual Core etc make it a very appealing device. Form factor is lovely as well and seems an ideal size for traveling. Will see what else pops up at IFA and will await Kal El devices as well.

akarol said:
No Kal-El... no thanks!
What's the point of getting something that will be obsolete a couple of months later.
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No one would ever have a device with this mentality. One has to have gadget nirvana: make your decision based on what's available at that time, then relax and don't worry if it's not the absolute latest thing. Will it still do what you want? Yep! Will it not have that lastest shiny thing that marketing departments want you to think you need in order to not want to hurl yourself off a bridge in envy of others? Maybe not, but who gives a crap.
Kal-el devices will be overshadowed by the next gen processor or integrated GPU or whatever very soon after they are on the market. I'm not saying it's a bad idea to wait a bit for something you think will be better and has a definite launch date. But, to be constantly on edge that whatever device you get will be "obsolete" soon after purchase is kind of a slavish mentality.
I'm reminded of a coworker I had who was putting off buying a digital camera because they kept getting better every six months. So, in 2009 she was still using a dinky 110 film camera.
Anyway, not to rant. But, if we need (need may be too strong a word for tablets) a device then playing the waiting game is as much as a con as it is a pro.

akarol said:
No Kal-El... no thanks!
What's the point of getting something that will be obsolete a couple of months later. Asus has plans to release a Kal-El tablet this year even.
Besides, I'm getting the Galaxy SII phone with a 4.5" display. 7.7" would be too small of a jump from it.
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In my opinion a slightly faster processor in a completely different tablet will not make this tablet obsolete. What makes this tablet so great is so much more than the processor, it's the portable size, 7.89mm thinness, 335g weight, and 7.7 inch Super AMOLED Plus at 1280 x 800 is unheard of. A year ago, even six months ago this screen technology would have been nearly impossible to manufacture/incredibly expensive. Sony used to sell a 7 inch qHD OLED monitor that cost $2,500. Needless to say the display in the 7.7 is a breakthrough to say the least for the future of OLED on larger screens.

I say reward yourself now. When Tegra 3 or better comes out, you upgrade to the newer one & either resell or hand me down gift to someone.

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In my opinion a slightly faster processor in a completely different tablet will not make this tablet obsolete. What makes this tablet so great is so much more than the processor, it's the portable size, 7.89mm thinness, 335g weight, and 7.7 inch Super AMOLED Plus at 1280 x 800 is unheard of. A year ago, even six months ago this screen technology would have been nearly impossible to manufacture/incredibly expensive. Sony used to sell a 7 inch qHD OLED monitor that cost $2,500. Needless to say the display in the 7.7 is a breakthrough to say the least for the future of OLED on larger screens.
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You opinion is demonstrably incorrect. Tegra 3 is 3-4 times as fast as the SoC in the 7.7

5thElement said:
You opinion is demonstrably incorrect. Tegra 3 is 3-4 times as fast as the SoC in the 7.7
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And you've used tegra 3 already haven't you?
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Quad core asus tablet announced , would you upgrade

A the title says Asus announced a quad core Nvidia tegra 3 tablet ,
http://www.engadget.com/2011/10/19/asus-jonney-shih-unveils-transformer-2-at-asiad/ personally if I get icecream sandwich I won't upgrade . What do you think ?
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Quadcore....tempting...
But I agree, if we get ICS, I'm stickin to Gtab.

Tivo7 said:
Quadcore....tempting...
But I agree, if we get ICS, I'm stickin to Gtab.
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like you I'm very tempted esp after seeing the pics of the new Transformer Prime. If I don't do an impulsive purchase, I'll wait to see if Samsung is going to release a Quadcore GTab.

If it's thinner, lighter and price-wise = or cheaper than the GT then hell yeah!

not even sure if we're gonna get ICS on tabs now..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1312195

Maybe in a year or two, but I don't feel the need to update just because there's a newer faster Tablet on the horizon. I bought my Tab for what it's capable of doing right now.

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not even sure if we're gonna get ICS on tabs now..
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On the emulator they found the tablet interface so ICS IS DESIGNED FOR TABLETS ALSO see the vudeo on engadget
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Who wouldn't like a faster processor? They're just planning to launch a 3G version of the Transformer I this month and it'll only have a HSPA 14.4 modem. I (finally) got my new 3G Tab from the UK yesterday. It's got a different display, pulls 8GB down on AT&T, and the KH3 ROM vastly improves screen responsiveness and transitions. Hardware's just one part of the equation. Samsung's audio and video codec support is second to none. If I abandon ship, it'll be to a quad-core Samsung Tab.

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Who wouldn't like a faster processor? They're just planning to launch a 3G version of the Transformer I this month and it'll only have a HSPA 14.4 modem. I (finally) got my new 3G Tab from the UK yesterday. It's got a different display, pulls 8GB down on AT&T, and the KH3 ROM vastly improves screen responsiveness and transitions. Hardware's just one part of the equation. Samsung's audio and video codec support is second to none. If I abandon ship, it'll be to a quad-core Samsung Tab.
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What do you mean by a different display. Aren't all galaxy tab 10.1 uses samsung super PLS display
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I could care less about the display honestly

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What do you mean by a different display. Aren't all galaxy tab 10.1 uses samsung super PLS display
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I'm still setting up the new Tab. Once I'm done I'll post the differences between it and the U.S. Wi-Fi version I've been using. The display's definately different. Maybe they updated it because of the Newton rings. When you look at it from the side, you can see a very subtle texture under the glass. Also, the color temperature is cooler and colors aren't as exagerated. It's a definite improvement (to me). The back has also been changed. It's now solid black with a soft-touch coating vs. the metal-esque grey plastic of the Wi-Fi version. The UK 3G Tabs were received by resellers last week and have an October build date.

If the build quality on the quad core is the same as the reg TF, then NO. The TF is a crappy product. The Tab is much more refined.
Putting a Turbo charged engine in a lawnmower doesn't make it a porsche.
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Putting a Turbo charged engine in a lawnmower doesn't make it a porsche.
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Too funny...

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If the build quality on the quad core is the same as the reg TF, then NO. The TF is a crappy product. The Tab is much more refined
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The build quality on my TF is perfectly fine - it is in no way a crappy product.
In my opinion, the TF is a different class of product to the Galaxy Tab 10.1, which is a definitely a "purer" tablet experience, and in general I do prefer my GT10.1 over my TF.
However, when I go on vacation next week, I will probably leave my GT10.1 at home, and take the Asus TF with dock instead because of the advantages the dock brings.
If the new TF can bring the tablet experience of the GT10.1, with the flexibility of the TF dock, I'm sold.
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I'm still setting up the new Tab. Once I'm done I'll post the differences between it and the U.S. Wi-Fi version I've been using. The display's definately different. Maybe they updated it because of the Newton rings. When you look at it from the side, you can see a very subtle texture under the glass. Also, the color temperature is cooler and colors aren't as exagerated. It's a definite improvement (to me). The back has also been changed. It's now solid black with a soft-touch coating vs. the metal-esque grey plastic of the Wi-Fi version. The UK 3G Tabs were received by resellers last week and have an October build date.
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I have got the uk 3g here in Egypt from Vodafone official store and I liked the black back allot more valuable than both metallic and write backs, thanks for your reply and wating for your comparison between the two versions
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The build quality on my TF is perfectly fine - it is in no way a crappy product.
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I wouldn't call it "crappy" but I'd say it's pretty average. I looked at all the tablets before buying the G-Tab and none of them were as refined h/w wise. The Transformer's I played with all creaked and the display wan't as good as the G-Tab. Friends have Transformer's and some have had to either exchange them or send them in for service for various h/w issues. (And I know, the G-Tab has Newton rings but it hasn't effected my two or those owned by friends.)

is it not scaring any of you that quad cores are coming so fast.. it means google and the manifacturers did not even give their tablets a year to sit on their thrones (not even a half year for many ones).. it gives me the fear of being outdated "abnormally fast" (please mind that statement=abnormally fast) no matter what i buy... and now there is the risk for our tegra 2 tablets not to get ICS.. it also scares me to be outdated easily again.. i mean, if the biggest rival apple is still caring about their iphone 3gs even after 2 more new models, what manifacturers are doing sounds so nokia-ish (like giving birth to many children but not caring about their growing).. is it not?

No plans on switching. Waiting for ICS update and I will be happy.
Regarding TF201 I don't really fancy the "rings" used on on the back and the bezel that is big. But it got better battery with the dock (hence the big bezel).
Love my Galaxy Tab and wouldn't trade it for a Transformer.

The tab I want next is based on these factors:
- form: how thin and portable is it
- display: must be vivid and sharp, no les than samsung quality
- expansion: absolute must. itis the single place the STab failed on for me
- price: has to be market price or better, no first adopter prices please
- processor: the more powerful a processor you get, the less likley you will need to upgarde for a longer term
I will hold no loyalty to a brand, but some brands do things better insome areas than others. For now, the Asus pad, at least visually, looks pretty sweet.

If the quad/tegra3 can play my 1080p mkv content off my portable hard drive while connected to a HDTV with the HDMI cable plugged in then I'm sold.
As of right now when I bring movies home to my parents for my dad to watch I still have to use my bulky laptop. I got the tab in hopes I could decrease my travel weight. Alas I've only added as now I bring my tab AND my laptop.
So sad.

7+ vs 8.9 pros and cons

Hey everyone,
I am on the fence with these two excellent machines.
I've had 10.1 tablets in the past including the iPads, but found them too be a bit cumbersome.
What's your guys' take on:
Display quality between the two?
Exynos vs Tegra?
Keeping in mind that the tablets will be used for:
pdf manipulation
music
light video use
web
email
Thanks in advance

petesavva said:
Hey everyone,
I am on the fence with these two excellent machines.
I've had 10.1 tablets in the past including the iPads, but found them too be a bit cumbersome.
What's your guys' take on:
Display quality between the two?
Exynos vs Tegra?
Keeping in mind that the tablets will be used for:
pdf manipulation
music
light video use
web
email
Thanks in advance
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This...has been repeatedly discussed so I'll be brief. Tegra has a weird lag when in landscape (8.9 issue), Exynos does not. Display quality, if you googled the 8.9 and 7 specifications you would notice the 8.9 has more resolution than the 7 model. Today's tablets are very capable and fast for those functions you listed.

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thanks for the reply.
i've been researching the last few days, but after a while it all starts to look the same, that's why i asked....

In terms of raw power, any dual cor eprocessor will handle the BASIC tasks you are looking to do
In terms of Phones Exynos looks faster but i don't know how that compares to tablets
For gaming, Tablet games are more often then not optimized for the Tegra 2 platform, TegraZone games make the most out of the processor and they looks phenominal. I don't know how well Exynos does gaming on a tablet
8.9 has a higher resolution which makes videos much easier. Also the speakers on the 8.9 are really good fo a tablet. I am not picky on audio but i use it when i play Oblivion and it overpowers the tv half the time

I think the larger screen is beneficial for internet browsing. I would definitely try them both out for usability i.e. screen size and weight to see if the $70 price difference is worth going for the larger one. Personally the 8.9's size of a hardback book is perfect.

petesavva said:
thanks for the reply.
i've been researching the last few days, but after a while it all starts to look the same, that's why i asked....
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The 7+ has a MicroSD slot, whereas the 8.9 does not. Besides that, it is the same beast in a different shell size. In the end it is up to you. Consider the screen resolution, portability and the size and possibly the MicroSD slot in your case. For me and my small hands 8.9 is the perfect balance, but for bigger hands, some may prefer the 10.1 for example.

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Thanks for all the replies.
I just came back from BB. Played with both machines and I have to say that the 8.9 fits my bill better.
The 7+ is great too, but it was just too small.
Thanks again!!!

I've had both.. the old 7 and the new 8.9 and I definitely like the little larger screen.. I would say the only physical improvement I could see for the 8.9 would be a little different aspect ratio.. towards the ipad.

I have the original GT7 and I just got the 8.9. While I do like the new GT, I really wish that the 7.7 was out - that sounds like the perfect tablet for my needs...

8.9
8.9 it is! i've been playing with both 7+ and 8.9 and really like the larger one.
I wonder when ICS will come for it....
Thanks for all the replies

I'm trying them both out myself. I guess the 7in. form works for some, what with the new Fire getting the press (this is far superior to that not surprisingly!), but with this resolution it just doesn't fit my needs between a tablet and phone. I kept reading in reviews how much faster than the other tabs it was but really what I'm noticing is the increased heat you feel when its zipping along. The remote software is legitimately cool though, easy to set up, nicely designed and a pleasure to use.
The 8.9 is a definite keeper. Especially with the new Overcome kernel. It's the most beautiful android tablet I've ever used, even more comfortable and light than the iPad. I can't believe how nice the design is, I really hope the 8.9 form factor sticks with Samsung.
One important point though: Tegra 2 absolutely blows at playing HD video unless transcoded properly. This is a huge flaw with most Honeycomb tablets IMO. The 7 Plus eats any video you throw at it since it doesn't have that mediocre processor.

Can I use peel remote software from gtab 7 plus on gtab 8.9?where can I get it?
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No, as 8.9 does not have an IR port.

I've had a 7" inch HTC Flyer myself, I found it too small ( that and the screen sucks as does HTC support, but that's another discussion I guess)
I have the 8.9 now, and I love it (especially for reading, and annotating docs)

I was stuck trying to decide between the two.. I love a 7" form factor.. but I was disappointed with the 1024x600 resolution on the 7".. Loved the pixel density and ability to fit a lot more content on the 8.9".. but the 4210 Exynos SOC inside the 7 plus is night and day clock for clock against the Tegra2.
I ended up with the 7 Plus .. Best Buy has a return policy until mid-Jan (holiday return policy) so if I change my mind or some other Tablet meets my needs better I can always exchange.
The 7 Plus' hardware will provide more future proofing than Tegra2 in the long run. The Galaxy Tab 7.7 hits a home run in all aspects.. An even faster clocked 4210 at 1.4ghz.. The higher resolution 1280x800, and more pixel density due to the 7.7 screen size over a 8.9".. Not to mention the even more battery efficient Super AMOLED+ display. Otherwise, you also get a LIGHTER tablet and BIGGER battery capacity in the 7.7.
I'll definately be upgrading to it when it comes out. For now, the 7+ remains the fastest OUT-OF-THE-BOX Honeycomb tablet in existence.
Even overclocked Tegra2's can barely keep up with a 1.2ghz 4210.
I just wish there was development going on for the 7+. It's nearly non-existent because the 7+ is a stepping stone to bigger and better things (Tegra3 and faster Exynos) ... that said, a lot of people are just holding out for the next generation of tablets.

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any news on the 7.7? i thought samsung was supposed to have a press release on the 7.7 today...

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any news on the 7.7? i thought samsung was supposed to have a press release on the 7.7 today...
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It's out overseas.. but not in the U.S. yet... unfortunately =( I want to get my hands on one.

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europe or asia?
not that it's worth it with the exchange rate nowadays....

petesavva said:
europe or asia?
not that it's worth it with the exchange rate nowadays....
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Europe for sure.. not sure about the rest... There's a lot of English blokes talking about their 7.7 here and there.