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I own an HTC Desire HD but I've been after some form of tablet since before Apple walked in with the iPad. Looking around there's no real choice yet but that's going to change in the next few months. Question is, is the Galaxy Tab with getting now or would you (current owners) wait if you were in my position?
Learning to really love the tab, but with the announcements right around the corner I would wait.
Who knows when they will be available, but at least you can then make an informed decision. Only a couple weeks away to see whats coming.
If tabs are going to wait for honeycomb and if the rumors are true that honeycomb wont be available until may or june, then I would say get it now. 6 months is a long time to wait.
With that said wait for the announcements to find out for sure.
I'd only get the Galaxy Tab if I specifically wanted a 7" form factor. If you're more interested in a 10" tablet, wait for Honeycomb.
Note that it is unlikely that the 10"ers will have a higher resolution.
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I think difficult time to make a decision like this, wait or not. My experience with Samsung Galaxy Tab is not bad but I also have an iPad and I prefer iPad for photos, videos and internet access when I am at home, SGT is nice to carry when travel but worst quality screen, worst speed drawing screen, etc. SGT have more flexibility with OS upgrades (XDA Forum), memory card, telephone calls, telecom Data Plans, but overall worst than Apple. SGT is very expensive too.
I don't recommend you to get actual SGT in comparison to iPad or coming tabs from Samsung and many other providers will offer HD video in 10" or less??
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Thanks for your opinions guys and / or girls! I was leaning toward waiting already but then I saw the Galaxy Tab had dropped in price and it made me wonder. £399 for the 32GB version is a lot better than when it launched.
Looking on the Engadget site a few minutes ago there's already news from CES of quite a few better tablets to come. The wait for Android 3.0 is holding things back but I think I'll wait.
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I don't recommend you to get actual SGT in comparison to iPad or coming tabs from Samsung and many other providers will offer HD video in 10" or less??
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SGT does HD in 7" now
Playing HD videos and displaying HD video are two different things. The SGT is 1024 X 600. HD starts at 1280 X 720.
That said, 720p mkv files look amazing on the SGT. In my mind, the ability to display colors better is more important than actual vertical resolution. 600p is nothing to sneeze at.
Just buy one - you wont be sorry.
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Just buy one - you wont be sorry.
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I'll second this. If you want a tablet, go get one and don't worry about what may or may not happen weeks or months from now. I bought one a few days ago and it's been my constant companion since bringing it home. That's actually more than I can say for the iPad because it was so much bigger and heavier that it rarely left the house. The Galaxy Tab fits in a pocket of most of my pants, it's light, it's fast, it plays Flash video like a champ...you absolutely won't be sorry.
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Playing HD videos and displaying HD video are two different things. The SGT is 1024 X 600. HD starts at 1280 X 720.
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Do you have any reason to believe the 10" devices will have better res? Netbooks have been hot for a while now, and all but the super expensive have been locked at ~1024x600or768 in the 10 screens.
I think it is tough to get a higher rez at this size.
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Do you have any reason to believe the 10" devices will have better res? Netbooks have been hot for a while now, and all but the super expensive have been locked at ~1024x600or768 in the 10 screens.
I think it is tough to get a higher rez at this size.
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It has nothing to do with that - it's to do with licensing of MS Windows, and getting decent prices on Intel Atom processors. Essentially, neither MS nor Intel wanted to cannibalize sales of their higher end OSs and processors, so introduced artificial restrictions on the specs of netbooks.
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It has nothing to do with that - it's to do with licensing of MS Windows
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You got a source for that?
How many 1920x1080 10" or 7" devices have you seen?
I say wait for honeycomb. If then you don't find others that you like better than get the tab. The tab is really great however waiting might pay off.
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How many 1920x1080 10" or 7" devices have you seen?
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Imagine the pixel density of a 7" screen with a resolution of 1920x1080 or even 1280x720! I am sure they *can* do it but I doubt anyone would want to pay that much for it.
Exactly! The resolution of these devices is not going to change (much, if at all).
Right now I do not think they even CAN do it, as I can find No devices of any type with such a screen. The smallest is the dell XPS at 13.3" (1980x1080) and HP mini note 9" 1280x800, and those are HIGH END devices.
EDIT: I can find displays, but no actual devices.
After seeing all the announcements so far from CES with Honeycomb tablets and 1280x800 resolution on 10.1" displays plus Tegra 2 chips I'm pretty sure that I'll be holding out. As good as the Galaxy Tab looks and might perform I have to wonder if Samsung will bother releasing Honeycomb for it or treating it as an early adopter product that is shelved or sold alongside newer, higher spec systems without future updates.
With that said the size and portability of the Tab would be very tempting at a lower price point, around £200, but I doubt it'll ever go that low.
There were two announcements at CES that caught attention:
Dell Streak 7, a Dell Streak with a 7' screen.
Motorola Xoom 10' with Honeycombe which looks fantastic but no definate release date.
There was also a Lenovo LePad 7'.
The Motorola Xoom really caught my eye too. I hate myself for saying it but even after the shambles of the update process for the Motorola Milestone the Xoom impressed me so much that I could see myself getting one. I'm still very tempted by the Galaxy Tab but I think I'd be setting myself up for a big loss if Samsung drag their heels on a Honeycomb release like their FroYo updates. Given that they likely have new hardware to release as well it gives them even less incentive to update it.
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Here's a few examples!
http://www.maximumpc.com/article/news/intel_upping_ante_atom_screen_resolution
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http://news.cnet.com/8301-13924_3-10249250-64.html
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How many 1920x1080 10" or 7" devices have you seen?
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What does that have to do with anything? We're talking about existing netbooks - I see absolutely no point having that sort of resolution on a 7" or 10" device *regardless* of price.
Best I've seen (and had!) was 1600x768 on a 8" Vaio P, and that was over 2 years ago. However, it really was too small for that resolution. One of the reasons that it was more expensive was because it did not fit into either MS or Intels definition of netbook and therefore, had was not permitted to use low cost Windows (Vista at that time), and the Z-series Atoms over the N series.
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So I was wondering if anyone was thinking about purchasing the new A10 that'll be available for pre-order January 17? I was watching a few videos on youtube featuring the A10 at CES and it looks amazing. The screen resolution of 1366x768 is what is swaying me to want to purchase it. I have to say, after owning the Viewsonic G-Tab, I'm not thrilled about lugging around a 10.1" inch device, but the A10 is tempting.
I really like the A7 but the lack of true multitouch is starting to bother me (not to mention the low screen resolution- after playing the Galaxy tab at a Verizon store, I definitely saw what I was missing out on). I do love the portability of a 7 inch device but after going through all of the 7 inch devices showcased at CES not a single one has the three things I'm looking for in a device (Tegra 2 chipset, high screen resolution, and an HDMI-out port).
It seems as though the next gen of A7s will have these three features, but they won't be available until sometime in March, if that (I can't wait that long!)
So question is, is it better to just keep the A7 and wait until March? Or suck it up and return the A7 and preorder the A10?
I am planning on keeping my A7, and then ebay-ing it when someone better comes out.. I got mine for $299.. I figure that I could probably get around $200 in return (considering it will be up-to-date, with market enabled and all the trimmings).. I am taking very good care of it so it will be in a brand-new state...
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So I was wondering if anyone was thinking about purchasing the new A10... So question is, is it better to just keep the A7 and wait until March? Or suck it up and return the A7 and preorder the A10?
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I'm leaning toward returning the A7. I love the size and speed... weight and screen are just OK... but the lack of USB-computer connection, unreliable or non-working multitouch, broken Flash, and an inconsistent WiFi is what's making rethink this tablet.
I had the GTab and Archos 10 inch units, which I also returned for different reasons, and I find 7 inches to be the best option. I do wish they made an 8 inch tablet, though...
I'll wait a little longer before I buy another tablet.
I'll echo on the 8" comment, it would still fit in large pockets.
I would only consider 10" tablets as light as the Archos, and it has crippled hardware IMO.
So after much deliberation, I've decided to return the A7 (just finished packing it up today for the UPS guy to come pick it up). It was a really tough decision since I realllllllly love this thing, but I didn't realize how much of a multitouch user I was (in both the apps I use and in the browser) and it was really hard getting used to not having that. I had just fallen in love with Angry Birds when I got the Viewsonic GTab and while I'm glad it finally worked on the A7, its impossible to play when you can't zoom out to see where you're aiming the birds!
The crippled USB port, the bulky form factor and the lower res screen were also deciding factors for me as well. I've decided, instead of getting the A10 (since I just cannot walk around with a 10" device), that I will get the Samsung Galaxy Tab to hold me over until the new line of A7s come out in March.
I'm sure the development on the A7 will only grow until then so it'll be great to come back to that. In the meantime, as I did with the Gtab devs, I will be more than happy to donate to A7 devs for their awesome work (especially Dexter!).
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So I was wondering if anyone was thinking about purchasing the new A10 that'll be available for pre-order January 17? I was watching a few videos on youtube featuring the A10 at CES and it looks amazing. The screen resolution of 1366x768 is what is swaying me to want to purchase it. I have to say, after owning the Viewsonic G-Tab, I'm not thrilled about lugging around a 10.1" inch device, but the A10 is tempting.
I really like the A7 but the lack of true multitouch is starting to bother me (not to mention the low screen resolution- after playing the Galaxy tab at a Verizon store, I definitely saw what I was missing out on). I do love the portability of a 7 inch device but after going through all of the 7 inch devices showcased at CES not a single one has the three things I'm looking for in a device (Tegra 2 chipset, high screen resolution, and an HDMI-out port).
It seems as though the next gen of A7s will have these three features, but they won't be available until sometime in March, if that (I can't wait that long!)
So question is, is it better to just keep the A7 and wait until March? Or suck it up and return the A7 and preorder the A10?
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I got to play with the A10 at CES 2011. I should have the video up tonight on my website. I was excited about eLocity's enthusiasm over their upcoming devices. They look to be well made devices with a price point for almost anyone. The new A7's and A10's will have several different models available with the difference mainly just being the size of internal storage on the devices. The A10 will top out at 256GB and cost $999, with the first model being 4GB and costing $449. All will be Tegra 2 devices and have true multi-touch as well as the highest resolution then on any other upcoming tablet.
Should have the video up tonight...
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Here is the video from CES 2011 of the eLocity A10.
http://www.mytabletlife.com/2011/01/15/video-elocity-a10-ces-2011/
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Looks like a nice looking devie with solid specs. I believe the battery life is still 5 hours, and that's no where as good my g tablet.
The real question is will it fun most market apps without issues. Seem mot of these tablet (from small company's or rebrands) have great specs but have issues running many apps. THey require fixes and XDA support, even then they arn't 100% fixed. Hope that changes with time.
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Looks like a nice looking devie with solid specs. I believe the battery life is still 5 hours, and that's no where as good my g tablet.
The real question is will it fun most market apps without issues. Seem mot of these tablet (from small company's or rebrands) have great specs but have issues running many apps. THey require fixes and XDA support, even then they arn't 100% fixed. Hope that changes with time.
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I dont think the A10 will be 10 hours life. The Chief Engineer had told me that that the battery life on the A7 was due to the battery they used and size issues. I would figure that shouldn't be an issue for the 10 inch units.
I would hope 5 hours isn't the case, as almost every 10 inch tablet out or coming out promises 8-12 hours..
As far as the issues, I think this has to do more with the fact that the Tegra 2 was new. The Viewsonic G-Tablet and eLocity A7 a long with a few others were the first to have Tegra 2 tablets to the market. Next few months almost EVERY tablet coming out will have it.. so look for there to less issues. Some of the other issues are just smaller companies going through some growing pains..
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I dont think the A10 will be 10 hours life. The Chief Engineer had told me that that the battery life on the A7 was due to the battery they used and size issues. I would figure that shouldn't be an issue for the 10 inch units.
I would hope 5 hours isn't the case, as almost every 10 inch tablet out or coming out promises 8-12 hours..
As far as the issues, I think this has to do more with the fact that the Tegra 2 was new. The Viewsonic G-Tablet and eLocity A7 a long with a few others were the first to have Tegra 2 tablets to the market. Next few months almost EVERY tablet coming out will have it.. so look for there to less issues. Some of the other issues are just smaller companies going through some growing pains..
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I hope the issues get worked out with more Tegra 2 tablets coming out. Still I think the battery life will hamper the A10. See link below...
http://liliputing.com/2011/01/first-look-at-stream-tvs-new-elocity-tablet-lineup.html/a7-specs
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I hope the issues get worked out with more Tegra 2 tablets coming out. Still I think the battery life will hamper the A10. See link below...
http://liliputing.com/2011/01/first-look-at-stream-tvs-new-elocity-tablet-lineup.html/a7-specs
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Well, those specs sheets are all messed up, because it says the device is only 8 inches... those are mostly the specs of the A7 if you look and not the A10. I have the press kit, and that battery life listing is only for the A7. I am not saying for sure, but just saying those spec listings are for the A7 devices since it lists the wrong size and weight of the devices..
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cpg716 said:
Well, those specs sheets are all messed up, because it says the device is only 8 inches... those are mostly the specs of the A7 if you look and not the A10. I have the press kit, and that battery life listing is only for the A7. I am not saying for sure, but just saying those spec listings are for the A7 devices since it lists the wrong size and weight of the devices..
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Hope so... they really should get their specs straight.
Honestly, it won't make much of a difference to me I have a 10" g tablet and a 7" eLocity A7. I don't see another tablet in my future this year.
A10 specs say it's an IPS screen? I hope that's legit...
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A10 specs say it's an IPS screen? I hope that's legit...
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Well they lied about the multi-touch the first time....so never buy another tablet from Elocity again. There are so many reputable brands coming out soon, I 'd rather deal with them.
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Well they lied about the multi-touch the first time....so never buy another tablet from Elocity again. There are so many reputable brands coming out soon, I 'd rather deal with them.
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Not sure they lied about multi-touch? From what I remember this was the mistake of Amazon reporting it was multi-touch. I could be wrong, but thats what I recall happening.
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roebeet said:
A10 specs say it's an IPS screen? I hope that's legit...
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Yes, that confirmed that with me at CES 2011. I will say however the one on the floor didnt blow me away.
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I'd probably treat this with the same skepticism as the NIA - I'd prefer to wait until reviews come in before I decide anything (this is good anyway since I'm not buying anything for at least a month). An IPS screen would definitely put this a step up from the GTablet, assuming the other specs are similar.
I was lucky with the GTablet, but it was also less risky since it was a B&M store with a return policy.
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I'd probably treat this with the same skepticism as the NIA - I'd prefer to wait until reviews come in before I decide anything (this is good anyway since I'm not buying anything for at least a month). An IPS screen would definitely put this a step up from the GTablet, assuming the other specs are similar.
I was lucky with the GTablet, but it was also less risky since it was a B&M store with a return policy.
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I do think they have learned from the release of the A7. StreamTV Networks Inc. has several tablets coming out in the eLocity line, plus phone/tablets in 3 and 5 inch sizes, plus 3D Televisions and picture frames.. They have a lot going on... and the eLocity A7 was their debut product.. I think the A10's will be a competitive line.
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Anyone find a preorder page anywhere?
I think they forgot about Martin Luther King Jr. Day
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Anyone find a preorder page anywhere?
I think they forgot about Martin Luther King Jr. Day
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Still not seeing it anywhere...
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I couldn't find any posts that went into detail regarding the differences between the 8.9 and the 10.1.
Am I right in thinking the only difference between the two are the screen size? Obviously, this brings the following implicit differences:
8.9 is lighter
8.9 is smaller (although thickness is the same)
8.9 has a higher pixel density (because screen resolutions are the same).
8.9 being lighter and smaller means it is more portable
8.9 is probably cheaper (this is my guess)
The on-board memory options for both may be different (e.g. the 8.9 may not come in a 64GB option where as the 10.1 may eventually have this option).
Apart from availability of the 10.1 will be sooner than the 8.9, I'm not sure what the benefit is for me to get the 10.1.
I'd be interested to hear other people's thoughts?
Size matters (insert joke). Everything else will likely remain the same. get 8.9 if you want something a little more portable, or if you have small hands..
If you want something truly diffrent, wait for the second gen 7" rumored to run Exynos.
You are pretty much correct with all that, but if you are in North America, you're most likely to have 10.1 with Vanilla honeycomb, and also that when 8.9 launches - it will be pre installed with touchWiz, Apparently where I live - both 10.1 and 8.9 will be with touch wiz preinstalled !
$.02: 10.1 vs. 8.9 (vs. 7)
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You are pretty much correct with all that, but if you are in North America, you're most likely to have 10.1 with Vanilla honeycomb, and also that when 8.9 launches - it will be pre installed with touchWiz, Apparently where I live - both 10.1 and 8.9 will be with touch wiz preinstalled !
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Yes - And owning a 10.1 I have to say, having a "vanilla" OS is the way to go. Very clean and simple. Honestly, I when I first saw the 10.1, I thought it was a little small lol; the idea of (that much) less screen real-estate doesn't seem fathomable =) [the lack of TouchWiz was a big selling point for me]
Unless you can do without the extra screen size, I'd go with a 10.1 -if you really don't care about screen size, follow the other gentleman's advice and with the new 7" when it comes out.
Isn't the 8.9 supposed to come out with a thicker screen that's less bright? That was the rumor a few weeks ago. Apparently the manufacturers are having a hard time with the 8.9 screen size and might have to use a thicker, heavier screen.
It's not clear how Samsung plans on handling this. They are having trouble with the yields for the screens on the 8.9, which would seem to indicate that some tablets will get the same screen as the 10.1 while others will get the thicker, less bright screens. It will probably vary by market.
I decided to get a 10.1 after the issues with the 8.9 screens were reported. I could deal with a thicker tablet - after all, the screens themselves are 40% thicker - but how much of the thickness of the total tablet is the actual screen? I would imagine even with the "lesser" screen the 8.9 would come in at under 10mm easily, so no big deal to me. But the 40% reduction is brightness is a big deal to me. That would take it's impact on the battery life, so thanks but no thanks!
WiFi antennas and heat?
I read some where that the 8.9 has only 1 WiFi antenna vs the 10.1 that supposedly has 2...
Don't if that's true and if we will notice much a difference (I suppose we will).
The other thing that would only be speculation on my part, is that maybe the 8.9 could run a little hotter by having less space to dissipate heat?
Any ideas about this?
I'm happy with my screen size. Neitherone is all that portable to be walking around town on a regular basis.
I'd rather have more screen realestate since I'm mostly using it primarily at home.
7" is the way to go for portability, in my opinion.
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By the time the 8.9 is released, newer and better tablets will be up for preorder.
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By the time the 8.9 is released, newer and better tablets will be up for preorder.
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And when those newer, and better tablets get released, there'll be even newer, better tablets up for preorder! It never ends!
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And when those newer, and better tablets get released, there'll be even newer, better tablets up for preorder! It never ends!
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I agree, but we're very close right now. Tegra2 has been around for quite awhile, remember?
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And when those newer, and better tablets get released, there'll be even newer, better tablets up for preorder! It never ends!
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I think he has a point. Samsung is taking a long time to get the 8.9 out. I'm sure they're not pleased about this either, however if they take too much longer, then the 8.9 will be competing against the first crop of quad-core Kal-El powered tablets, not to mention the other faster dual core solutions. I don't have any performance issues with the Tegra 2 in my day to day use, but the fact remains that it's not exactly a screamer. The Galaxy Tab 10.1 (and presumably the 8.9) compares favorably when the competition is pretty much just comprised of other Tegra 2 equipped devices, however things won't be so pretty when the competition is leaving the Galaxy Tab in the dust.
However, who knows what the first Kal-El tablets will look like - they may be shoddy and rushed to market for the Holiday season. I just wish Samsung had used something other than the Tegra 2.
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Yes - And owning a 10.1 I have to say, having a "vanilla" OS is the way to go. Very clean and simple.
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I disagree. Vanilla OS means no DLNA support, no various video codec support. I want TW for nothing but DLNA (AllShare) and various video codecs that my current Samsung Galaxy S phone already supports, including DIVX. Not to mention the email client (with exchange support) Samsung was able to pack into the Galaxy S phones is 1000% better than Google ever shipped.
The 8.9 tab doesn't fit your pocket, so the argument of portability is relative.
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The 8.9 tab doesn't fit your pocket, so the argument of portability is relative.
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The size of pockets is also relative. It sure does fit in that guy's suit pocket when Samsung Demoed 8.9 in CTIA.
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The size of pockets is also relative. It sure does fit in that guy's suit pocket when Samsung Demoed 8.9 in CTIA.
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That must have been a custom made suit, because the pockets on my suit are not that wide.
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Did you guys see the hands on video yet? 720p SAMOLED+ screen, exynos internal and an external sd slot in a thinner package
I'm not sure if it's the exynos internal or the 3.2 but the rotation and home screen transition looked extremely smooth
http://www.engadget.com/2011/09/01/samsung-galaxy-tab-7-7-hands-on-video/
I like the size of it. Very portable.
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I like the size of it. Very portable.
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i'm more excited about the specs and basic performance it's exhibiting on the video
Screen is way too small. Whats the point of buying this?
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Screen is way too small. Whats the point of buying this?
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Eh, the 7" is a great size for traveling.
i think ill sell my 10" when this comes out, it'll be nice to get off the tegra 2 and get something a little more portable
I'm more interested in the Samsung Galaxy Note for my next phone. I thought anything bigger than 4.5" would be too bit for a phone, but after watching the videos, it seems fine. I guess the thinness and tiny bezel help a lot. Sadly we probably won't see it on US carriers for 6 months.
No Kal-El... no thanks!
What's the point of getting something that will be obsolete a couple of months later. Asus has plans to release a Kal-El tablet this year even.
Besides, I'm getting the Galaxy SII phone with a 4.5" display. 7.7" would be too small of a jump from it.
i just wish the 10.1 would have come with exynos.
and the ppi on those screens!!
I had a Euro Galaxy Tab 7" and while it was very portable. I kept wishing it was bigger when playing games. Especially, when play Order & Chaos. The new 7.7 is tempting but I learned my lesson once already. If I were to switch, the 8.9 would probably be the one for me.
BTW, love the Samsung Note. I wonder which SoC its using? Anyone have the complete specs for it?
It's running the same as the 7.7, we know that haha.
The note sounds sweet! 5.3" super amoled at 1280x800....damn
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Seriously if you already have a smart phone there is no need for a tablet with a screen less than 10".
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Seriously if you already have a smart phone there is no need for a tablet with a screen less than 10".
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Says who? Is it comfortable reading a book on a 3.5-4" screen smartphone? Surfing the full-mode web? Didn't think so.
7" is most likely the sweet spot for portable tablets, and the reason why all e-readers are around that size. The perfect tablet size for me would be 8-9" as well.
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Seriously if you already have a smart phone there is no need for a tablet with a screen less than 10".
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That's bull. My OG Tab is still used every day (though it gets retired the minute I can get my hands on that 7.7), along with my old 4" SGS and my current 4.3" SGS2, and I have a Tab 10.1
Different tools for different jobs.
This looks fantastic! Got the 10.1 myself and while it's awesome, this HD resolution, MircroSD slot, Dual Core etc make it a very appealing device. Form factor is lovely as well and seems an ideal size for traveling. Will see what else pops up at IFA and will await Kal El devices as well.
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No Kal-El... no thanks!
What's the point of getting something that will be obsolete a couple of months later.
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No one would ever have a device with this mentality. One has to have gadget nirvana: make your decision based on what's available at that time, then relax and don't worry if it's not the absolute latest thing. Will it still do what you want? Yep! Will it not have that lastest shiny thing that marketing departments want you to think you need in order to not want to hurl yourself off a bridge in envy of others? Maybe not, but who gives a crap.
Kal-el devices will be overshadowed by the next gen processor or integrated GPU or whatever very soon after they are on the market. I'm not saying it's a bad idea to wait a bit for something you think will be better and has a definite launch date. But, to be constantly on edge that whatever device you get will be "obsolete" soon after purchase is kind of a slavish mentality.
I'm reminded of a coworker I had who was putting off buying a digital camera because they kept getting better every six months. So, in 2009 she was still using a dinky 110 film camera.
Anyway, not to rant. But, if we need (need may be too strong a word for tablets) a device then playing the waiting game is as much as a con as it is a pro.
akarol said:
No Kal-El... no thanks!
What's the point of getting something that will be obsolete a couple of months later. Asus has plans to release a Kal-El tablet this year even.
Besides, I'm getting the Galaxy SII phone with a 4.5" display. 7.7" would be too small of a jump from it.
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In my opinion a slightly faster processor in a completely different tablet will not make this tablet obsolete. What makes this tablet so great is so much more than the processor, it's the portable size, 7.89mm thinness, 335g weight, and 7.7 inch Super AMOLED Plus at 1280 x 800 is unheard of. A year ago, even six months ago this screen technology would have been nearly impossible to manufacture/incredibly expensive. Sony used to sell a 7 inch qHD OLED monitor that cost $2,500. Needless to say the display in the 7.7 is a breakthrough to say the least for the future of OLED on larger screens.
I say reward yourself now. When Tegra 3 or better comes out, you upgrade to the newer one & either resell or hand me down gift to someone.
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In my opinion a slightly faster processor in a completely different tablet will not make this tablet obsolete. What makes this tablet so great is so much more than the processor, it's the portable size, 7.89mm thinness, 335g weight, and 7.7 inch Super AMOLED Plus at 1280 x 800 is unheard of. A year ago, even six months ago this screen technology would have been nearly impossible to manufacture/incredibly expensive. Sony used to sell a 7 inch qHD OLED monitor that cost $2,500. Needless to say the display in the 7.7 is a breakthrough to say the least for the future of OLED on larger screens.
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You opinion is demonstrably incorrect. Tegra 3 is 3-4 times as fast as the SoC in the 7.7
5thElement said:
You opinion is demonstrably incorrect. Tegra 3 is 3-4 times as fast as the SoC in the 7.7
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And you've used tegra 3 already haven't you?
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Didn't see another posting, or I'm VERY late to the party...
http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/2237774/samsung-will-launch-an-8in-galaxy-note-at-mwc
"This news doesn't come from a loose-lipped Samsung staffer, it comes from Samsung Mobile president J.K. Shin. Speaking to Korean news website News1, Shin revealed that the firm will unveil the 8in Samsung Galaxy Note 8.0 at the Barcelona mobile technology show in a few weeks.
Although Shin didn't reveal what we can expect from the Galaxy Note 8.0, there's talk that the device will feature Google's Android 4.2 Jelly Bean mobile operating system, a quad-core 1.6GHz processor, dual cameras, microSD memory expansion and a 4,600mAh battery. As it carries Samsung's Galaxy Note branding, we're assuming that it will come with a stylus and Samsung's productivity focused software features.
The Inquirer (http://s.tt/1yJMH)"
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Didn't see another posting, or I'm VERY late to the party...
http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/2237774/samsung-will-launch-an-8in-galaxy-note-at-mwc
"This news doesn't come from a loose-lipped Samsung staffer, it comes from Samsung Mobile president J.K. Shin. Speaking to Korean news website News1, Shin revealed that the firm will unveil the 8in Samsung Galaxy Note 8.0 at the Barcelona mobile technology show in a few weeks.
Although Shin didn't reveal what we can expect from the Galaxy Note 8.0, there's talk that the device will feature Google's Android 4.2 Jelly Bean mobile operating system, a quad-core 1.6GHz processor, dual cameras, microSD memory expansion and a 4,600mAh battery. As it carries Samsung's Galaxy Note branding, we're assuming that it will come with a stylus and Samsung's productivity focused software features.
The Inquirer (http://s.tt/1yJMH)"
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i would be excited except i feel like the note 10.1 is the perfect size. the only interesting part about this is the fact that it might come with 4.2 which would probably mean an update for us or at least some very decent ports.
I agree, had the Nexus 7 for a week or so before returning it and getti g my Note 10.1. The big screen works better for sketching and writing notes, a lot easier on my old eyes as well. Am not going back to 7 or 8 inch screen, samsung, make it a 12 inch and I will buy 3.
I really don't understand Samsung. Guess I'm not alone on that one, but diluting the Note line is madness.
By all means release an 8 inch tablet, but I wonder how many people will buy a Note 2/3 now? I wouldn't buy an 8 inch note having used the note 1 and the note 10.1 I am still looking to buy a Note 2. I think its creating confusion in an already crazily confused line.
Well, as I posted in another thread, the size of the Note 10.1 is an issue (for me at least) and I was very happy with the size of the Nexus 7, but I really wanted a fine tip stylus like the s-pen. So I'm thinking when the 8 is out I might sell the 10.1 to get that one. Assuming of course it meets other requirements (price, MicroSD slot, ability to be rooted).
As for coming with 4.2 - umm...that's kind of a downgrade. LOL I had it on my Nexus 7 AND my Galaxy Nexus...both are back on 4.1.2 which is much nicer, more stable, more app compatible, and less of a headache.
I think I'd be interested in a 8in. Version. I do already have 2 nexus 7's and looking to get a note 2 phone..lol I love my Nexus 7. Only way I would get this 8in. Is if it has a higher resolution screen or its vastly superior to Nexus7 one. The processor in this upcoming device sounds good. But I think this is needed by Samsung. As the Ipad mini is doing very well. So well that it has cannabilized the sales of its larger counterpart. Apple plans on releasing a new updated ipad4/5. Which will be lighter and with bezels similar to Ipad mini. A new Ipad mini will release also. It'll have retina display and the new processor found in latest Ipad. Apple has finally realized they can't wait whole years to release devices. Android is releasing new tablets and phones like hotcakes. Android has finallyncaught up to the point to where its making apple do things it normally didn't do. Yes apple still selling well, But everyone is seeing its not the untouchable company it use to be. There's no new innovation happening at apple. They only giving people what they want versus how Steve jobs use to giving people what "HE" THOUGHT they'd need. You've already seen how apple shares have been plummetting. They already losing badly on the phone front to Android. Android is the most widely used mobile operating in the world. Internationally. With the mobile space moving towards mobile computing, Android is seen as the better OS. IOS is stale now and seen as stagnant as far as innovation goes. Tech sites and reviewers that were hard core apple fanatics and biased are finally seeing this. Investors are scared now at apples future. So the way apple is reacting is to release devices more frequently to keep them more competitive throughout the "ENTIRE" year.
Apple Ipad mini has been sort of a success. Last thing android need is apple trying to take over the small tablet segment. Nexus 7 was a huge success for Google and Asus. Now its time for Samsung to release a great quality 8in. Tablet to stay competitive. IMO, the smaller galaxy tab sucks..lol. the 8in. Note would blow it away on features and capabilities. They will likely phase out the smaller tab line. And replace it with the smaller note. Since the note 10.1 was so well received in its qualities and sales. Consumer reports even rate our tablet higher than new Ipad. And all they ever use to do was praise/be biased towards apple. Not anymore. They see the nkteb10.1 for what it is. Which is its a great device.
Samsung needs tl release this asap. To put apple in check. I'd easily see people getting a 8in. Note over an Ipad mini. Based on features and capabilities alone. Lets do it Samsung! Lol
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Well, as I posted in another thread, the size of the Note 10.1 is an issue (for me at least) and I was very happy with the size of the Nexus 7, but I really wanted a fine tip stylus like the s-pen. So I'm thinking when the 8 is out I might sell the 10.1 to get that one. Assuming of course it meets other requirements (price, MicroSD slot, ability to be rooted).
As for coming with 4.2 - umm...that's kind of a downgrade. LOL I had it on my Nexus 7 AND my Galaxy Nexus...both are back on 4.1.2 which is much nicer, more stable, more app compatible, and less of a headache.
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On my nexus7 I'm running TeamEOS 4 nightlies, which is on 4.2.1. Runs great for me and no issues with anything or app capabilities. Very stable and major improvement over previous versions, IMO. Definitely glad I upgrade j.b. version. Now all my devices on JB(my note 10.1, 2 nexus 7's, and my Samsung Galaxy S3).
i'd prefer an 8.9 (or 9") like the gt 8.9 i had. i'd get rid of my nook hd+ if they keep the gn8 easy to root. that nook hd+ gets some incredible standby time. it's been 10 days since i've used it and i'v only lost 8%.
I understand that a lot of people like having tablets in the 7"-9" range.. but to me, it's kind of silly. I mean, my phone is decently big already, and my tablet is medium sized in any sense of the word. I feel like Samsung should march on with the Multiwindow features and stick them on bigger tablets (if I got another tablet, I'd want it the size of my computer monitor right now, or at least maybe 13"-15"), but of course, I don't know how Samsung determined the marketability of these devices so maybe they have their own reasons.. :/
Icrap mini killer is on the way for 199 I might want one I mean the note is 5.5 my note is 10.1 y not finish it with the 8
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planning on waiting for this model to come out ever since the rumors started on it.
but i am glad that i already got the Note 10.1
this Note 8 will be my primary phone and well the Note 10.1 will be the tablet with phone features.
i am really glad that samsung made a tablet with phone features. no regrets or complain about it.
=)
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i would be excited except i feel like the note 10.1 is the perfect size. the only interesting part about this is the fact that it might come with 4.2 which would probably mean an update for us or at least some very decent ports.
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Actually the perfect size for a note would be 11x8.5.
Why that's the size of a letter sized legal pad, something I'm used to.
Not only that. The paper industry has been making legal pads for over 100 years. They know what size works best.
Plus drawers, briefcases, backpacks are designed for letter sized legal pads.
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Actually the perfect size for a note would be 11x8.5.
Why that's the size of a letter sized legal pad, something I'm used to.
Not only that. The paper industry has been making legal pads for over 100 years. They know what size works best.
Plus drawers, briefcases, backpacks are designed for letter sized legal pads.
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Hmm, then it'd probably be more like 12x10 to account for the bezels..
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Actually the perfect size for a note would be 11x8.5.
Why that's the size of a letter sized legal pad, something I'm used to.
Not only that. The paper industry has been making legal pads for over 100 years. They know what size works best.
Plus drawers, briefcases, backpacks are designed for letter sized legal pads.
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Only in America - the rest of the world uses A4!!
Anyway, with a bezel, that's too big for a Tablet - IMO.
younix258 said:
i would be excited except i feel like the note 10.1 is the perfect size. the only interesting part about this is the fact that it might come with 4.2 which would probably mean an update for us or at least some very decent ports.
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agree. I have the note 10.1 and i think its not big enough for me to take notes. sometime I feel like I need something bigger lol. I would say 8'' is just too small to take notes
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Only in America - the rest of the world uses A4!!
Anyway, with a bezel, that's too big for a Tablet - IMO.
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yeah, you guys use some weird 8. somthing by 11.29 sheet.
also, legal is actually 8.5x14. us letter is 8.5x11.
Riki1kenobi said:
I really don't understand Samsung. Guess I'm not alone on that one, but diluting the Note line is madness.
By all means release an 8 inch tablet, but I wonder how many people will buy a Note 2/3 now? I wouldn't buy an 8 inch note having used the note 1 and the note 10.1 I am still looking to buy a Note 2. I think its creating confusion in an already crazily confused line.
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Unfortunately these crazy things happen all the time.
What about the Tab 2 that was released days after the tab plus and tab 7.7, ruining the market for those fine devices because noobs think that of course a tab 2 is faster then a tab plus or Tab 7.7. The Tab 2 is a downgrade in specs and is much cheaper then the tab 7.7. A cheaper, downgraded device with a name that sounds like an upgrade. How crazy was that?
And they wanted to release the Note 10.1 with some old exynos or even old omap processor, thank god somebody woke up and they decided to modify the note and put the newer exynos into it.
In 2012, Samsung released more then 170 Android device types (not including the different colors).
Samsung wants to cover every small niche, hoping it is what people are waiting for.
Samsung has to go after the Nexus 7 market, so they have to get out with something 7/8 Inch.
And.... we are now used to it.... but the Note concept was the phablet, half phone/ half tablet...
Remember: is it a phone? is it a tablet? no, it is a Note!
So when they announced the Note 10.1 many thought, wtf... a 10 inch Phablet? a 10 inch notebook?
Our note is a Tablet. The Wifi model is certainly not a Phablet. So they spent millions to build the phablet concept and then they spread it to a 10.1 device.
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yeah, you guys use some weird 8. somthing by 11.29 sheet.
also, legal is actually 8.5x14. us letter is 8.5x11.
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Who's weird??
Of the 196 countries in the world 194 use (mostly 100 percent) the International Standards Association (ISO216) standard for paper sizes. Only TWO (USA and Canada) use the variety of "weird" sizes that you refer to - 8.5x11.5 inch 8.5x14 inch and also 8x10.5 inch (a few more countries are still using inches - but not many).
The rest of the world uses a highly logical system based on the aspect ratio of 1 to sq root 2. This starts with the base A0 which is 1 sq metre.
Successive paper sizes in the series A1, A2, A3, and so forth, are defined by halving the preceding paper size along the larger dimension. The most frequently used paper size is A4 measuring 210 by 297 millimetres (8.3 in × 11.7 in).
The significant advantage of this system is its scaling: if a sheet with an aspect ratio of Rt2 is divided into two equal halves parallel to its shortest sides, then the halves will again have an aspect ratio of Rt2. Folded brochures of any size can be made by using sheets of the next larger size, e.g. A4 sheets are folded to make A5 brochures. The system allows scaling without compromising the aspect ratio from one size to another—as provided by office photocopiers, e.g. enlarging A4 to A3 or reducing A3 to A4. Similarly, two sheets of A4 can be scaled down and fit exactly 1 sheet without any cutoff or margins. Weights are easy to calculate as well: a standard A4 sheet made from 80 gram/m2 paper weighs 5 grams (as it is one 16th of an A0 page, measuring 1 m2), allowing one to easily compute the weight—and associated postage rate—by counting the number of sheets used.
The US uses a complete mish-mash of systems purportedly based on a quarter of the reach of a paper vatman's arms!! No-one has any idea how the aspect ratio evolved.
To make a computing device based on these principles - for just one country in the world (Canada is slowly changing to ISO sizes) - would truly be weird!
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Who's weird??
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You noticed they managed to have us all use their inches to describe screen sizes?
pwatkins said:
The rest of the world uses a highly logical system based on the aspect ratio of 1 to sq root 2.
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What's "highly logical" about an aspect ratio of 1 to square root of 2.
pwatkins said:
Who's weird??
Of the 196 countries in the world 194 use (mostly 100 percent) the International Standards Association (ISO216) standard for paper sizes. Only TWO (USA and Canada) use the variety of "weird" sizes that you refer to - 8.5x11.5 inch 8.5x14 inch and also 8x10.5 inch (a few more countries are still using inches - but not many).
The rest of the world uses a highly logical system based on the aspect ratio of 1 to sq root 2. This starts with the base A0 which is 1 sq metre.
Successive paper sizes in the series A1, A2, A3, and so forth, are defined by halving the preceding paper size along the larger dimension. The most frequently used paper size is A4 measuring 210 by 297 millimetres (8.3 in × 11.7 in).
The significant advantage of this system is its scaling: if a sheet with an aspect ratio of Rt2 is divided into two equal halves parallel to its shortest sides, then the halves will again have an aspect ratio of Rt2. Folded brochures of any size can be made by using sheets of the next larger size, e.g. A4 sheets are folded to make A5 brochures. The system allows scaling without compromising the aspect ratio from one size to another—as provided by office photocopiers, e.g. enlarging A4 to A3 or reducing A3 to A4. Similarly, two sheets of A4 can be scaled down and fit exactly 1 sheet without any cutoff or margins. Weights are easy to calculate as well: a standard A4 sheet made from 80 gram/m2 paper weighs 5 grams (as it is one 16th of an A0 page, measuring 1 m2), allowing one to easily compute the weight—and associated postage rate—by counting the number of sheets used.
The US uses a complete mish-mash of systems purportedly based on a quarter of the reach of a paper vatman's arms!! No-one has any idea how the aspect ratio evolved.
To make a computing device based on these principles - for just one country in the world (Canada is slowly changing to ISO sizes) - would truly be weird!
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i know, i work in print. i was just messing with you, lol.:highfive: