So i was reading an article in regards to new tabs coming out this year (http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Rivals-to-the-iPad-Say-This-nytimes-3459496839.html?x=0) and there was a paragraph that read as follows:
"Devices can already run Android 2.3, known as Gingerbread, and Android 3.0, known as Honeycomb, is scheduled to be available this year. Andy Rubin, vice president for engineering at Google, showed a prototype of a Motorola tablet running the operating system at a conference in December."
Am i missing something? What tabs are running 2.3? My T-Mobile tab sure isn't and still no word on an update, and if 3.0 will be coming out soon what is the point of releasing or updating to 2.3?
Very aggravating.....
You bought a tab with 2.2 right? Then what are you crying for. Nobody said the tab would be getting anything else. So are you buying devices for what they are? Or are you buying them for what you want them to be, because electronics don't work like that.
scottprotege said:
You bought a tab with 2.2 right? Then what are you crying for. Nobody said the tab would be getting anything else. So are you buying devices for what they are? Or are you buying them for what you want them to be, because electronics don't work like that.
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Yes my tab is running 2.2, all i was trying to say is that since they are mentioning that there are tabs running 2.3 and the up coming 3.0 i just wanted to know when are were going to get those updates. Yes i am happy with the way the tab runs now but if there is something out there that other tabs already run, why not expect that to be on mine.
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Yes my tab is running 2.2, all i was trying to say is that since they are mentioning that there are tabs running 2.3 and the up coming 3.0 i just wanted to know when are were going to get those updates. Yes i am happy with the way the tab runs now but if there is something out there that other tabs already run, why not expect that to be on mine.
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It just says there are devices running 2.3. It doesn't say Galaxy Tabs specifically!
FYI, there are no updates for 2.3 for any Tab at present - at least not in general distribution.
Regards,
Dave
foxmeister said:
It just says there are devices running 2.3. It doesn't say Galaxy Tabs specifically!
FYI, there are no updates for 2.3 for any Tab at present - at least not in general distribution.
Regards,
Dave
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Thanks for pointing that out, i figured since the article was talking about tabs i assumed that's what it meant plus the fact that the very last line states: "Andy Rubin, vice president for engineering at Google, showed a prototype of a Motorola tablet running the operating system at a conference in December."
adinis78 said:
Thanks for pointing that out, i figured since the article was talking about tabs i assumed that's what it meant plus the fact that the very last line states: "Andy Rubin, vice president for engineering at Google, showed a prototype of a Motorola tablet running the operating system at a conference in December."
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You just answered your own question there the clue was in prototype, and if you watch the video of him doing the demo hes very careful about how and what he shows so that he does'nt encounter any problems, both the os and the tablet are prototypes and as such are'nt ready for distribution yet.
Hi,
unfortunately, HoneyComb won't be available for Tab. Samsung will only update to 2.3. Officially, HoneyComb needs dual-core processors and bigger screen size and perhaps that's the reason it won't be updated on the Tab
i don't agree with the fact that we buy electronics purely for what they are.. the potential of what it can be should be taken into consideration. The Tab is a great machine but still not exactly a tablet due to the OS. Its unfortunate that i will never be (again due to OS). i do own a Tab and it has served me well but i was kinda hoping for improvement (as all gadgets owners would).
When I buy a blender or a TV I don't expect anything other than what I get in the box. When I build a PC I don't expect the graphics card to get the new DX or OGL hrdware implamented with a firmware upgrade when the company releases info on new cards. When I buy an OS I read the features and only expect fixes, not another OS in a few months.
Why do people assume because it's a Tablet it has to morph into other things every few months? Samsung didn't shut down their Tablet R&D when they released the SGT. No, they took what worked and continued to add to it. OF course they are going to stop putting new s#!t on there old hardware and push their new hardware with it as feature. Why? Becasue Average Joe doesn't understand the hardware difference but tell them it's got a whole "new" OS and throw in a catch phrase like "multi core" and "Multi Task" and *Bam!* sales.
It's not a new way of doing business. It's just a new platform to do it on.
Incorrect the product testing guy at Google already said there's no such requirements for3. 0
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Wrong xenomage, there is NO hardware requirement for Gingerbread.
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Ashvsaod said:
Wrong xenomage, there is NO hardware requirement for Gingerbread.
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Did you mean Honeycomb
Last official xeu release was
CSC. JJ3
MODEM JID
PDA. JJ3
can't find anything else
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i thought JJ7 was the last release , thats what I upgraded to?? or am I missing something (xue??) ??
The next update may well be 2.3 , thats why it has been a while
only for carphone tabs
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only for carphone tabs
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so they are stuck on JJ3??
glad I went to PCWorld
i am so thanksfull
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Did you mean Honeycomb
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Yep. My bad.
Anyway, apparently the minimum hardware requirement is wrongly reported. The Gtab can run honeycomb but sadly Samsung will not support it.
No matter, I'm sure we'll be able to download and update via this forum ;-)
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Hi,
unfortunately, HoneyComb won't be available for Tab. Samsung will only update to 2.3. Officially, HoneyComb needs dual-core processors and bigger screen size and perhaps that's the reason it won't be updated on the Tab
i don't agree with the fact that we buy electronics purely for what they are.. the potential of what it can be should be taken into consideration. The Tab is a great machine but still not exactly a tablet due to the OS. Its unfortunate that i will never be (again due to OS). i do own a Tab and it has served me well but i was kinda hoping for improvement (as all gadgets owners would).
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you are wrong the android devs even said it does not REQUIRE dual core OR a larger screen size plz dont make stuff up
xenomage said:
Hi,
unfortunately, HoneyComb won't be available for Tab. Samsung will only update to 2.3. Officially, HoneyComb needs dual-core processors and bigger screen size and perhaps that's the reason it won't be updated on the Tab
i don't agree with the fact that we buy electronics purely for what they are.. the potential of what it can be should be taken into consideration. The Tab is a great machine but still not exactly a tablet due to the OS. Its unfortunate that i will never be (again due to OS). i do own a Tab and it has served me well but i was kinda hoping for improvement (as all gadgets owners would).
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You can buy electronics for any reason you'd like but if don't buy it for what it is, you WILL be disappointed at some point. That is an absolutely certainty. How about that iPad? Think there's any technical reason it couldn't run a Flash player? All those people who bought an iPad expecting Jobs to eventually relent and allow Flash are pretty disappointed right about now because there's absolutely no technical reason it couldn't work and yet it doesn't and, most likely, never will. Samsung doesn't need to ever do anything with the Tab again and I would be happy with what it does because it meets my needs. That's why I bought it. I kind of doubt that "needs dual-core..." stuff, too. Every company annouces that nonsense and then we find out six months later that the latest and greatest runs just fine on year old hardware when you hack around the arbitrary checks that stop it from running.
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CLARIFICATION: SamFirmware.com is NOT directly affiliated with Samsung Corp., but have links with them apparently (which explains how the ROMs leak).
Seen on Tweeter:
@SamFirmware
"Samsung: No Android 3.0 for Galaxy Tab."
http://twitter.com/#!/SamFirmware/status/55595012687282177
"today in meeting Samsung told me no 3.0 for Galaxy Tab. (Problem = Hardware.)"
http://twitter.com/#!/SamFirmware/status/55600489827549184
To put these statements in perspective:
http://androidandme.com/2010/09/news/galaxy-tab-qa-honeycomb-tablet-coming-next-year/
"The Samsung Galaxy Tab will launch with FroYo (Android 2.2) and eventually be upgraded to Gingerbread (maybe Android 3.0), but Samsung said Honeycomb was for a different kind of tablet experience."
“Moving forward with Honeycomb, that will be used in the next generation tablet as it is specifically optimized for different type of tablet, and will be used on another product only.”
it stinks samsung, samsung ever for me, any product that carries this brand will be part of my house !!!!!!!!!!
he not take care of their customers and it will lose one today! of that there is a 7-inch tab with another brand, I buy, preference for HTC !!!
thanks for this news, even if it is bad
Have they posted the source for this 'quote'? Probably not. Things like this shouldn't be believed until its official.
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I would take anything samfirmware takes with a pinch of salt. It was the same site that said Samsung IS updating to honeycomb not so long back.
Until Samsung themselves say anything ill wait.
daniel.weck said:
Seen on Tweeter:
"@SamFirmware: Samsung: No Android 3.0 for Galaxy Tab."
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Should have posted with source link. Otherwise.....
"@SamFirmware: Samsung: No Android 3.0 for Galaxy Tab but free ipads for tab owners."
Agreed! Lets wait for an official response but I'm pretty sure its true.
Ps-this has nothing to do with development do why did you put it in this section? We all need to do our part in cleaning & maintaining these threads.
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These are the same people who have bricked more tabs than fixed.
I trust Samfirmwares as far as I can throw a fat kid. Bout 2 inches.
I dont see an abysmal difference between 2.2, 2.3 ... 3.0, everything works pretty much the same. the layout of 3.0 may not be the best for a 7inch tablet anyways... perhaps google will meet us halfway and release something that is not 3.0 but will run apps made for 3.0 or something like that. if we never get 3.0 its not going to be a big deal for me, maybe I am on a different situation because I just got it, and most of you have had it for while. and I could get the xoom if 3.0 was that big of a deal but I've played with the xoom and its just too big for me, I like the portability of the galaxy tab and that is more imporant that having honeycomb.
Honeycomb was the last reason to keep GTAB... now i will sell it and buy Kindle...
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Honeycomb was the last reason to keep GTAB... now i will sell it and buy Kindle...
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How many devices are out there right now with ROMs on them that aren't official or haven't even been released?
Crummy reason to give up the best available tablet on the market today. (That's called an opinion, and I'm entitled to mine)
I'm fairly confident that at some stage we will have fully functional and stable honeycomb on our tabs. Does it really matter if it's not an official Samsung release?
After all, if all we're interested in is getting official updates from vendor sources then there's little or no point being on these forums.
Have faith in the developers here, in my opinion they provide more reliable roms than the vendors!
just one question, what the hell do you guys expect? if somebody port honeycomb to the tab we will have it. but whats the point? what you are actual missing on your tab? why need sooo much honeycomb? i guess in 95% of all cases its just the childish "must have" instinct like me....
so stay calm, lets enjoy our tab and stop to blame samsung....
I did quite trust the dev here, more than a samsung, but I am disappointed to have paid a very expensive tablet and end samsung not take care of customers, but many want our money !!!
I do not like their politics !!!
I trust samfirmware saying no honeycomb for the galaxy tab as much as I trust apple to tell me a quote from samsung[1]. wait for official sources to confirm or deny.
[1] referring to steve jobs displaying the misquote of samsung's ceo at the iPad2 event
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just one question, what the hell do you guys expect? if somebody port honeycomb to the tab we will have it. but whats the point? what you are actual missing on your tab? why need sooo much honeycomb? i guess in 95% of all cases its just the childish "must have" instinct like me....
so stay calm, lets enjoy our tab and stop to blame samsung....
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Maybe because some apps will only work on honeycomb.
Can anyone here honestly say that they bought there Tab because Samsung said that it would get Honeycomb? I don't recall Samsung ever officially saying anything of the sort personally, though I stand ready to be corrected!
Yes, it would be really nice to get an official Honeycomb ROM, but when I bought my Tab I knew it was coming with Froyo and I knew that Samsungs track record in the past with respect to new Android versions wasn't great.
If we get Gingerbread out of Samsung, I'd say that was a win personally.
Regards,
Dave
EDIT: Interesting article here dated September 2010, where Samsung effectively say that the Tab 7" wouldn't get Honeycomb.
HoneyComb IS here...
Hey guys its actually already been done. A russian developer already flashed it, and it works. ofcourse its an alfa version and there are tons of stuff that is not working, but that means in a few weeks and with all the smart people we have here, it will be done. Here is the link
http://www.max-up.ru/news-apple/android-30-honeycomb-galaxy-tab-gsm.html
Mohamed Sewidan
even htc flyer will be offered honeycomb.
http://www.carrypad.com/2011/04/06/...t-how-will-it-work-with-inking-and-htc-sense/
samsung has to do better to keep their customers.
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Hey guys its actually already been done. A russian developer already flashed it, and it works. ofcourse its an alfa version and there are tons of stuff that is not working, but that means in a few weeks and with all the smart people we have here, it will be done. Here is the link
http://www.max-up.ru/news-apple/android-30-honeycomb-galaxy-tab-gsm.html
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Erhhh, you're coming a bit late to the party here!
a) This is based on the work of spacemoose1 from these forums for CDMA Tabs.
b) Many people here have flashed it or tried flashing it.
c) At best, it can be considered a very early alpha - it isn't in a state where you could remotely use it as a daily driver!
Regards,
Dave
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Erhhh, you're coming a bit late to the party here!
a) This is based on the work of spacemoose1 from these forums for CDMA Tabs.
b) Many people here have flashed it or tried flashing it.
c) At best, it can be considered a very early alpha - it isn't in a state where you could remotely use it as a daily driver!
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Dave
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yes I completely agree but that means that we have hope that the devs are going to work on it to make it work. So saying No honeycone is not accurate.
Also Here is the link from the tab general forum
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1023437
What do you think?
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Nope, have a little more patience.
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Exactly!
Archos update support is great
They even released a Update for the Gen7 (Archos 5 Internet Tablet) with Android Donut (1.6) in April '11
This device has released in spring 2009!
2 and a half years of updates Considering by this we'll get updates till summer 2013 (At least)
I gave up hope, sold my A101 and bought me an Acer Iconia A500.
There is only one thing which I am missing from the Archos and that's the supported videocodecs of the A101.
Now being changed to the Acer, I won't ever buy an Archos again. Not for it being a worse product, but because of not answering my supportquestions, only auto-reply's.
Good luck to you all !
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I gave up hope, sold my A101 and bought me an Acer Iconia A500.
There is only one thing which I am missing from the Archos and that's the supported videocodecs of the A101.
Now being changed to the Acer, I won't ever buy an Archos again. Not for it being a worse product, but because of not answering my supportquestions, only auto-reply's.
Good luck to you all !
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The World need more optimists...
I have had no issues with archo support. They replied with in 2 days of my question( not auto reply). also the device works great as is. I just rooted and that was it. I don't run urk i just did some simple mods like move the buttons to notification and a custom boot animation. other than that my tab works fabulous. The only thing that archos needs to fix is the random reboot while sleeping thing but even that isn't enough to make me pay over $500 for a tablet.
And yes i think we will get more updates. I think that they (Archos) may be waiting for Ice cream sandwich to be released, since the honeycomb source code seems to be a highly guarded secret. but hey i am willing to wait and see, and then if after ICS gets released we don't get a update soon i may be swayed to buy something else.
Quite frankly I'm almost at the point of ditching my A101. I love it dearly, however these last few weeks the touch screen has turned to being the most awkward thing I have ever used, it won't respond to anything for a few minutes, then be great after that. This could be a software issue, but either way it's something that didn't used to happen and quite frankly just shouldn't happen.
Also, honeycomb tablets are *&%^ing all over the Archos. If the 7-inch Acer iconia turns out to be good, I'm on it as soon as I can be.
Hope not but who knows
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Quite frankly I'm almost at the point of ditching my A101. I love it dearly, however these last few weeks the touch screen has turned to being the most awkward thing I have ever used, it won't respond to anything for a few minutes, then be great after that. This could be a software issue, but either way it's something that didn't used to happen and quite frankly just shouldn't happen.
Also, honeycomb tablets are *&%^ing all over the Archos. If the 7-inch Acer iconia turns out to be good, I'm on it as soon as I can be.
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your screen just started getting dead spots too?
i had some initially but after all the updates there was never an issue.
the past 2 weeks though im getting them all the damn time, so i barely use it.
about to just do a full wipe and start over
Arobase40 said:
I gave up hope myself and bought a Galaxy Tab !!! ^^
This Archos development team is too "amateur" : non professional !
SIX MONTHS waiting after a full working froyo version and at that time I can't even use half of my A70IT capability : random Wifi, non functional Bluetooth, unstable HDMI, random USB Host, and so on...
Ma SGT worked out-of-the-box 100% from the first minutes I used it, and I now have an official Gingerbread 2.3.3 which is even faster than the fast Samsung Froyo version !!!
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I'm glad you're happy with your tab. When I bought my A70 in December I kinda worked out I was paying 40% for 85% of the functionality.
As regards the Samsung team, you obviously missed the fun SGS owners enjoyed waiting for the upgrades from Eclair to GB.
So I have an A 70, a SGS and as of last week an SGS 2. I love them all. They will all be obselete within a year. The A 70 is getting old, but I have been at IT long enough to know that in reality I use the mobile devices for
Browsing
Email
Browsing XDA to see tweaks, mods and dev
Games
Random other stuff
I smile when I read about devices only delivering half the functionality they should and and the like. You are buying a nascent technology.
So cheers to everyone who actually likes the Archos and thanks Sauron.
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I'm glad you're happy with your tab. When I bought my A70 in December I kinda worked out I was paying 40% for 85% of the functionality.
As regards the Samsung team, you obviously missed the fun SGS owners enjoyed waiting for the upgrades from Eclair to GB.
So I have an A 70, a SGS and as of last week an SGS 2. I love them all. They will all be obselete within a year. The A 70 is getting old, but I have been at IT long enough to know that in reality I use the mobile devices for
Browsing
Email
Browsing XDA to see tweaks, mods and dev
Games
Random other stuff
I smile when I read about devices only delivering half the functionality they should and and the like. You are buying a nascent technology.
So cheers to everyone who actually likes the Archos and thanks Sauron.
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Exactly what i mean!
I just hope this xda subforum wont be dead when Archos releases their Gen9, cause i hopes with the, that archos will release, Honeycomb source codes, we can port HC to the Gen8
Archos is just the very best manufacturer in the World^^
I spend 550€ in it
Arobase40 said:
I gave up hope myself and bought a Galaxy Tab !!! ^^
This Archos development team is too "amateur" : non professional !
SIX MONTHS waiting after a full working froyo version and at that time I can't even use half of my A70IT capability : random Wifi, non functional Bluetooth, unstable HDMI, random USB Host, and so on...
Ma SGT worked out-of-the-box 100% from the first minutes I used it, and I now have an official Gingerbread 2.3.3 which is even faster than the fast Samsung Froyo version !!!
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I'm looking for HTC Flyer...if it can make phone...waiting a hacker come up and give us Root of it then we can see a lot of Cooked rom..
yea ive had this thing since march and its just been a big disappointment. the nearly mirrored screen is almost a deal breaker in its self but the constant crashing/freezing and need to reboot has me looking to ditch it
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The SGS is the I9000 model right ?
And if I watched at the samfirmware site the official Android Froyo is available for this model since at least august 2010 and official Gingerbread 2.3.3 since at least march 2011, so before it was available for the SGT !!!
So may be you don't know how to use kies or where to find the information... ^^
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Most of those initial releases were unofficial internal ones full of bugs. Took ages to get a stable 2.2 rom. Head over to the 19000 forum and see all the *****ing about slow samsung updates.
Kies only updates when your local phone carrier adopts a new rom, so I didnt use it much.
Look I got the phone last July and the software was fairly horrific. Huge lags due to the rfs filesystem and software. Took about 6 months before official roms were decent. Up until then, to have a good experience you needed to root/lagfix/use custom rom.
Cyanogenmod 7 final version is either available for the I9000 for "some times" already.
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CM7 was never properly finished for the SGS in any stable form. CHeck out the bugs.
And you can flash these firmwares without fearing to void your warranty... ^^
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That's not true.
I wish I could Browsing, Email, Browsing XDA to see tweaks, mods and dev with my Archos 70IT but couln't as most of the time I can't use wireless functionality. None of my Bluetooth devices (headset (3 different models) or keyboard can connect to the Archos when I never had any problems with the SGT. HDMI "browsing" is simply SUPER with clone display ! Can you say the same thing with the Archos ???
What about pluging USB stick or HDD with the USB Host ??? ^^
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Hmmm. I thought when you were talking about productivity you meant work apps as opposed to enhanced emailing and media.
I don't care is my device will be obselete within a year or not as I'm sure I can use it for SOME years, just as I used my Palm Lifedrive for over ten years. THIS device is quite obsolete but at least I really used it and it was worth the buying.
The Archos 70IT was obselete from the first day it came out and it came out before the Samsung Galaxy Tab was available, and it was truely functional "out-of-the-box" from the very first day.
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As I said in my post, I bought the Archos becuase on balance I thought it was much better value for money at the time than the alternatives. Sure there is better value now - look at the way the AUS price for the tab was slashed recently to 299 aus dollars for the 3g one.
Look at the XDA Galaxy Tab section for the alternative firmware as opposed to the gen8 Archos... ^^
I don't deny the work made by Sauron, but I wished I could flash my A70IT just as with the Samsung Galaxy (of any kind) and just revert back if I don't like the alternative firmwares !
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Thats nothing to do with Archos. Just wait will the nex tab/xoom whatever is launched and all the top devs will disappear form the tab.
my archos has got the same issue, any idea ?
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All firmwares hosted by samfirmware are OFFICIAL versions and mostly stable ones.
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Not true. Many there are leaked versions. which are by Samsung but not the official releases.
"Kies only updates when your local phone carrier adopts a new rom"
This is the point and the reason of your problems : so not anything to do really with Samsung ! Phone carriers add a new stack over the Samsung ui just as with any Phone carrier Android devices. ^^
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I flashed many ROMS, I was merely pointing out that I didnt use the SH1t that is Kies.
As stated above, this has nothing to do with Samsung BUT with your phone carrier version !!!
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Samsung develop the versions, not the carriers.
I don't own a SGS, so I can't tell but at least you have an fair alternative and you can revert back to original if you don't like it while this is mostly impossible with Archos, specially with official firmwares...
Are you stubborn as most Archos owners are ???
I don't know any SGT owners ever been abandoned by Samsung even after a bricked devices and even after a custom ROM failure. Samsung repairs their devices according to the warranty and including phone carrier versions !!!
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That is just rubbish. Standard return instructions for a bricked phone are pretend you were upgrading the firmware with Kies and you dont know what happened. Never came across a case where they replaced a bricked phone where they were told it was bricked.
Oh and in the SGS II they have a kernel flashing counter where the phone records when you flach a new kernel. Nice little warning triangle left on the phone when you do so. Apparently you can reset the counter, but this trigers another counter reset.
You are not being realistic about warranty cover.
I own about 10 Netbooks/laptops/tablet PC and even a Desktop for productivity, so I just wanted to use my Tab for fun : browsing, emailing, media and eBooks Reading. Unfortunatly I can't use my Archos for this purpose as it is useless except to hold my paper books or as a luxuary coaster...
I built myself an Android-x86 Froyo for my Acer 1825ptz Tablet PC, and it's working pretty fine. Even wireless connectivity is more reliable and more stable than with the Archos. LOL
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I researched the product and knew what I was buying. If I buy a renault, I dont expect a mercedes. Actually I wouldnt buy a renault. But that is a seperate matter.
I'm sure "we" will have Honeycomb or at least Ice Cream Sandwich on it (official or custom) while Archos Froyo won't be finished and Gingerbread just as in an embryonic status (official or custom)...
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Hate to tell you that as soon as the SGS ii was released (very nice phone) all the devs disappered from the SGS except one.
At the end of the day, the android system is a phone pretending to be a computer. Long way to go.
Please ... just shut up!
You didnt help others with your post, but thats the thing about a community!
Just dont post here anymore
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Yeah, I know but the Godwin Point was not for me as, as a german guy you should know the initial and real meaning of the word, unless a french guy has to teach you... ^^
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Hehe. I haven't seen that before. We should just calm down a bit. It's stressful enough in real life.
Back to topic: we will hopefully see another update.
Btw.: The Grand canyon du verdon is the most impressive landscape i've ever seen.
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What do you think?
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I'm certain there will be more....
Mr. Clown? I know we're keeping you busy lately mate, but can you clean this thread up a bit? Waaay off topic.
The Xoom (USA Wifi version) users are having their official 3.2 updates OTA now!
http://tablets-planet.com/2011/07/1...arts-to-arrive-for-some-wi-fi-motorola-xooms/
Where is ours?
I dont even have the 3.1 update for my 10.1v.
Haha
You do realize this is Samsung we are talking about?
It usually takes months if not years for them to generally fix major bugs on their devices. Same for pushing firmware updates...
Sad but this is how it is.
nMIK-3 said:
Haha
You do realize this is Samsung we are talking about?
It usually takes months if not years for them to generally fix major bugs on their devices. Same for pushing firmware updates...
Sad but this is how it is.
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You also realize that samsung has really stepped up their game with both quality and service?
No, we may not see 3.2 officially from samsung this month, but i bet we see a leak of it before the end of august.
Xoom is also Google's flagship HC tablet so obviously they'll always get the latest updates first. Give it time. Maybe we'll have our 3.2 by the time ICS is out
Wait for Touchwiz before Android 3.2
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You also realize that samsung has really stepped up their game with both quality and service?
No, we may not see 3.2 officially from samsung this month, but i bet we see a leak of it before the end of august.
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Samsung is doing amazing job in hardware development. They really do but for software support the company simply s*cks.
For example Galaxy S is almost a year and a half old. This device sold more than 10 million units worldwide is one of the most successful smartphone ever and believe it or not it's still waiting to get Gingerbread.
And this is only one example. Almost every Samsung Android phone out there is suffering the same issue. Actually all with the exceptions of Nexus S and Nexus S 4G and that because Google itself is handling the software and pushing updates on those devices.
To make things worst Samsung will push the TouchWiz UI very soon. Which means now they have to make sure Touch UI is compatible with the latest Android version which take even more time. They always take their time to ensure compatibility with their stupid TouchWiz and they ALWAYS end up with extremely buggy results.
As for an early leak, what is the point of getting a beta software to an already buggy device?
If for any reason you believe that Galaxy Tab 10.1 will be an exception for Samsung, please feel free to share. I really like to know it.
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Xoom is also Google's flagship HC tablet so obviously they'll always get the latest updates first. Give it time. Maybe we'll have our 3.2 by the time ICS is out
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That's pretty much the case.
Now that TW is coming. No way we'll see 3.2 anytime soon. Not a chance with Samsungs history.
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Samsung is doing amazing job in hardware development. They really do but for software support the company simply s*cks.
For example Galaxy S is almost a year and a half old. This device sold more than 10 million units worldwide is one of the most successful smartphone ever and believe it or not it's still waiting to get Gingerbread.
And this is only one example. Almost every Samsung Android phone out there is suffering the same issue. Actually all with the exceptions of Nexus S and Nexus S 4G and that because Google itself is handling the software and pushing updates on those devices.
To make things worst Samsung will push the TouchWiz UI very soon. Which means now they have to make sure Touch UI is compatible with the latest Android version which take even more time. They always take their time to ensure compatibility with their stupid TouchWiz and they ALWAYS end up with extremely buggy results.
As for an early leak, what is the point of getting a beta software to an already buggy device?
If for any reason you believe that Galaxy Tab 10.1 will be an exception for Samsung, please feel free to share. I really like to know it.
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I would disagree somewhat. The Galaxy S has been upgraded to Gingerbread on European versions of the phone. While updates for phones in the past have been lagging I would view that Samsung has taken a new approach as of late. The majority of the phones released around the same time period as the Galaxy S line have not received the Gingerbread update either. I would respond to you and ask for another cell phone manufacturer who is doing it better? Also besides zoom to fit (which spare parts will fix) there's not much benefit of 3.2 for us. The update adds zoom to fit, finally enables SD cards on the Xoom, and is more optimized to fit on 7" tablets i.e. 7-inch Huawei MediaPad.
As for Touchwiz I felt V3 was in need of much work (it does appear to be revamped a tad and smoother on the latest Fascinate GB leak) however V4 on the SGII has me sold on it being the default launcher on my phone. It is butter smooth and I love how it is laid out. If you were to poll the majority of Android users on XDA I would wager over 75% are unhappy with their stock manufacturer's launcher. I am looking forward to what Samsung will bring to the table.
I myself believe that Honeycomb is still very "beta-ish" in its current state. It was rushed and is extremely buggy. I think releasing the source code would help immensely as devs could iron out bugs (which they nicely do for Google now on the phone side). However, I do not believe it will be released before a transition into Ice Cream Sandwich.
Forget 3.2, are us 10.1v users even going to see 3.1???
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Forget 3.2, are us 10.1v users even going to see 3.1???
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There's a HC 3.1 ROM by seo available in the 10.1v section - incl. TouchWiz.
Dont know
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Xoom is also Google's flagship HC tablet so obviously they'll always get the latest updates first. Give it time. Maybe we'll have our 3.2 by the time ICS is out
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This sounds about right. Especially the "maybe."
seems like 3.2 is just about 7 or 8 inch tablet support so don't sweat that.
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seems like 3.2 is just about 7 or 8 inch tablet support so don't sweat that.
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It's not just about smaller screen tablets. It brings some small bug fixes also:
There is no lag on up side down home screen. Portrait is also better but not much.
Browser seems a little faster and typing a message on XDA doesn't lag as bad as it did on 3.1
I was also planning to buy SGT, but now I'm not sure anymore. I don't want to wait for updates. In this regard, the US Xoom is the best tablet. Only downside is that the US 3G version doesn't work in Europe and i want a tablet with 3G connectivity.
I got the update(wifi Only). Any one have a clue how to access it? Or make Sgt use it? The SD card i mean..lol
There isn't a 3.2 update for Galaxy Tab, and there is no SD card either. Troll somewhere else
I've been a forum reader/poster for over 20 years. Seen many things and read many posts. I know trolls and I know funny.
It's safe to say that the threads that I've read on the XDA forums have the most people with lack of sense of humor than any I've been a part of.
Why is that?
I didn't think it was funny... It was a clear troll post.
Could the 10.1 run 3.2 from the Zoom, or does it have to be made specifically for the Samsung 10.1?
Because supposedly reverse landscape and portrait mode performance are improved, near regular landscape performance.
Thanks for making my point.
Since Android 4.0 is scheduled around december I was wondering if this version will be able to run on the A500 or are there already known hardware limitations?
Anyone heard any rumors about future updates (from Acer) yet?
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Since Android 4.0 is scheduled around december I was wondering if this version will be able to run on the A500 or are there already known hardware limitations?
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I doubt there will be any hardware limitations, atleast I'm not aware of any. I'm quite sure there will be some cheap Tegra2 devices with Icecream Sandwich soon after it's released.
Anyone heard any rumors about future updates (from Acer) yet?
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Acer sucks, I wouldn't hold my breath. It's likely that we'll need a custom ROM for A500.
google released a statement saying there were no new hardware limitations, so we should be compatible.
Well ics is going to open source all the other good tablets are tegra 2 so i couldn't imagine something getting cooked up a week or so after source drops
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Well I'll keep my fingers crossed then. 4.0 sounds really promising
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Acer sucks, I wouldn't hold my breath. It's likely that we'll need a custom ROM for A500.
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Didn't know Acer did so bad in supporting their hardware. They did provide updates to 3.1 and 3.2 right?
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Well I'll keep my fingers crossed then. 4.0 sounds really promising
Didn't know Acer did so bad in supporting their hardware. They did provide updates to 3.1 and 3.2 right?
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Yup. Just a little behind schedule - and without great communication.
This is typical Acer. Lucky part is - as Android users we can choose to not rely on the hardware devs and run custom roms.
ICS should definitly be able to be placed on the A500. All Android tablets now pretty much have the same hardware, the Tegra 2 chipset. If no ICS for the A500, I would assume no ICS for any Tegra 2 device. Which I believe 100% will not be the case.
And hopefully when ICS releases, they will release the source code so we can have AOSP ROMS. Then it wont matter whether Acer releases an official ROM because devs can build from AOSP and throw in the necessary code for the specific hardware of the A500.
Finally got the A500
I have been reading this user group comments for weeks now to gain as much info about the A500 as possible and after reading comments both good and bad, I decided to go out and buy.
I really love this device. It is better than I anticipated. It came with 3.01, however Acer upgraded the firmware over the weekend first to 3.1 and then to 3.2, so I am very impressed, (after having Samsung devices for 18 months and receiving no updates at all, still on 2.2).
I am very glad this U.G. exists as many of my questions have already come to the fore, thanks for that. The only problem is that my wife has threatened to throw the device out the window if I dont stop fiddling with the A500 and show her some attention as well.
There has been talk about Ice Cream Sandwich running on the A500, does anyone know what is different about android 4.0 compared to 3.2?
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I have been reading this user group comments for weeks now to gain as much info about the A500 as possible and after reading comments both good and bad, I decided to go out and buy.
I really love this device. It is better than I anticipated. It came with 3.01, however Acer upgraded the firmware over the weekend first to 3.1 and then to 3.2, so I am very impressed, (after having Samsung devices for 18 months and receiving no updates at all, still on 2.2).
I am very glad this U.G. exists as many of my questions have already come to the fore, thanks for that. The only problem is that my wife has threatened to throw the device out the window if I dont stop fiddling with the A500 and show her some attention as well.
There has been talk about Ice Cream Sandwich running on the A500, does anyone know what is different about android 4.0 compared to 3.2?
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My girlfriend makes the same threats Just Google 'Ice Cream Sandwich features' for some more info. They haven't released a whole lot of info yet, but in a nutshell it will be a a uniform operating system that will run on phones and tablets instead of 2 different OS. Some cool new features have been discussed, but I have a feeling there's a lot we won't find out about until it gets released (October/November last I heard).
It is officialy stated that tegra 2 devices wil be given ICS update.
http://acer-a500.ru/news/880-planshety-na-baze-tegra-2-poluchat-android-40-ice-cream-sandwich.html
Main advantage - 1 OS for all devices! Easier for app devs, easier for Google
This article is based on Eric Schmidt's statement.
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The only problem is that my wife has threatened to throw the device out the window if I dont stop fiddling with the A500 and show her some attention as well.
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tgtoys said:
My girlfriend makes the same threats
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You both have boring girlfriends tbh! Fiddling with electronics, gadgets and games is fun, and it's even more fun together :3
But well, try telling them that fiddling with such helps keep your fingers nimble....
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But well, try telling them that fiddling with such helps keep your fingers nimble....
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You're so very very bad!
I like it!
WereCatf said:
You both have boring girlfriends tbh! Fiddling with electronics, gadgets and games is fun, and it's even more fun together :3
But well, try telling them that fiddling with such helps keep your fingers nimble....
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Yea, I got myself an A100 and gave her my A500(bought her a logitech bluetooth keyboard to go with it). So I get the smaller lighter "nimbler" device. She got the bigger thicker device so she gets a stronger grip.
All kidding aside, tablets do make excellent platforms for watching porn with your partner. It even has dual cameras in case you want to make your own too.
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Yea, I got myself an A100 and gave her my A500(bought her a logitech bluetooth keyboard to go with it). So I get the smaller lighter "nimbler" device. She got the bigger thicker device so she gets a stronger grip.
All kidding aside, tablets do make excellent platforms for watching porn with your partner. It even has dual cameras in case you want to make your own too.
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ok??? Thanks for the marital guidence guys... I think??
Roll on Ice Cream Sandwich or... is that something kinky??
rosse912003 said:
ok??? Thanks for the marital guidence guys... I think??
Roll on Ice Cream Sandwich or... is that something kinky??
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I was taking their kidding and making a real comment that the 7" form factor tablet is a good blend for an aid to lovemaking, yes. While I joked with them, I meant my statement to have no innuendo and intended it to be just my obesrvation.
Certainly wasn't trying to offend and apologize if it came across the wrong way.
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Since Android 4.0 is scheduled around december I was wondering if this version will be able to run on the A500 or are there already known hardware limitations?
Anyone heard any rumors about future updates (from Acer) yet?
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I consider everything rumor and speculation until it actually happens, even when it comes from companies themselves. But to date, we've been told that ICS is a merging of the phone and tablet OS. That in and of itself should allow us the luxury of surmising that this OS should work on all if not most devices currently running Gingerbread and Honeycomb at the very least.
It will be of course up to manufacturers to take the time to port it to their past devices, something not very many companies are ever willing to do since it doesn't really add any physical value (for them) to the product but I would think the current tablet providers would essentially get the update to their products as quickly as they can considering 1. they don't have a multitude of variants on the market and 2. they still have lots on store shelves etc. so it would indeed add physical value to their product - unlike for example, expecting HTC to update their Mytouch 4G or Samsung to update their Galaxy I US carrier line which have been on the market for almost a year.
Don't believe any rumors you hear and remember to take everything right now as speculation and with a grain of salt. Acer could very well today say they will update and a month or 2 after it's out tell us it won't/can't be done. Such is the way of tech.
I think it will come to the A500. Maybe not as quickly as it does to the Tab 10.1 or Transformer, but not too long afterwards. Acer has proven themselves to at the very least be consistent with their updates if albeit slow (for some), and so I'll take my positives where I can. I'm fine with slow and steady.
Erica wants icecream now.give this woman what she needs.icecream with sprinkles.taste a rainbow.
All seroious thou if we gwt it will come from dev or very late.booohooo
I've just received notification for update 4.031.26 for A501
I'm in Australia
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I was taking their kidding and making a real comment that the 7" form factor tablet is a good blend for an aid to lovemaking, yes. While I joked with them, I meant my statement to have no innuendo and intended it to be just my obesrvation.
Certainly wasn't trying to offend and apologize if it came across the wrong way.
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No worries mate, just being a little light hearted. You're sharing from your heart, just like it should be. By the way, do you play mkv files? If so, what player do you use?
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I've just received notification for update 4.031.26 for A501
I'm in Australia
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From what previous version ?
Well i mean this is just speculation from my standpoint.
For wifi versions, no 3rd party software developers are impeding the process
I.E. Verizon LTE versions are affected by Verizon's wishes as some people had problems with the Fascinate if you know what i mean.
Now i believe that the reason we are not getting anymore updates on the 10.1 tab for honeycomb is because of the upcoming release of the ICS.
Because ICS will be for both phones and tablets, there is probably no interest from Samsung to spend the time and the resources to update their tablets to the most updated software.
And as we all know Samsung got the first dibs on the ISC software code, i think it is not in the near future that Samsung begins to release ICS source code for all of their products.
It maybe even possible that they are working on ICS for their soon to be released products such as Galaxy Note, Galaxy TAB 7+, Galaxy Tab 7.7
OH well this was just my simple rant for today
I wanted to know what your thoughts were..
Best,
3.2 is more for smaller screen tabs. We are not missing much aside from resizable Widgets.
Look at all the issues the guys in the Asus forums are having with 3.2.
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I don't think they are working on it because they are engulfed in a legal battle with Apple...
Since its been only two month since the "Touchwiz" update and there are no pressing bugs to fix nor brings 3.2 any real needed functionality, I'm not surprised that Samsung hasn't updated the tab. A new version number might seem important to a few people but I can understand why it's not exactly high priority at Samsungs.
The 7+ is launching next month on T-Mobile US with 3.2. The SGS2 currently runs 2.3, 2.4, and 2.5 depending on the market. We think a lot harder about this than Samsung does.
These threads are in every forum. This is not just Samsung. Every phone/tablet forum has people who want the next update as soon as it is announced. What are the real differences between touchwiz and 3.2? I can already resize widgets.
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I don't think they are working on it because they are engulfed in a legal battle with Apple...
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Samsung's lawyers are their developers?
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I want a pony.
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Samsung's lawyers are their developers?
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Lol hahghaa. That would be funny of they really are.
i prefer samsung focus on ICS instead of 3.2
ICS is around the corner..
Also..who here thinks that Steve Kondik uses a Galaxy Tab 10.1 as well?
thinking CM8 ? that will be a very very nice addition to the tab
me personally cant wait till ICS goes open source so that CM team can take it and start doing CM8
hoping that CM8 alpha comes in two month or so.. (assuming Google exposes ICS to the world by mid Oct)
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Samsung's lawyers are their developers?
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That's the same thought I had when I read his comment.
I guess 3.2 doesn't really make a big difference but I sure would like to see an update where the speed and fluidness of the software is improved.
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I guess 3.2 doesn't really make a big difference but I sure would like to see an update where the speed and fluidness of the software is improved.
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Actually the latest update KI1 (for the European GT10.1 3G) makes the GT10.1 much smoother then my Xoom wich has Android 3.2.1
Other then the app resize function, there is nothing new in 3.2 and i have never used this function.
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These threads are in every forum. This is not just Samsung. Every phone/tablet forum has people who want the next update as soon as it is announced. What are the real differences between touchwiz and 3.2? I can already resize widgets.
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I think people should just enjoy their Tabs...
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Stardate Tab 10.1 said:
These threads are in every forum. This is not just Samsung. Every phone/tablet forum has people who want the next update as soon as it is announced. What are the real differences between touchwiz and 3.2? I can already resize widgets.
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True, we all want the latest and greatest. I'm using a custom rom that has completely changed my experience with the tab. Enjoying this. . .I can wait.
Probably because they are really busy optimising 3.1 for GT 10.1v.
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It maybe even possible that they are working on ICS for their soon to be released products such as Galaxy Note, Galaxy TAB 7+, Galaxy Tab 7.7
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They'll almost certainly be working on it but the devices you've listed will be released with 2.3.X, 3.2 and 3.2 respectively.
So Samsung clearly are devoting some resources to working on 3.2, albeit for other models of Tab.
It raises the possibility that the 3.2 update might be released around the same time as these new models of Tab, though it's obviously a matter of waiting and seeing.
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i prefer samsung focus on ICS instead of 3.2
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Whilst ICS is certainly a bigger update than 3.2, I don't feel we should have to justify missing out on one software update by hoping that we get the next one sooner.
Good after-sales support would've seen us running 3.2 already as well as receiving ICS, not one or the other.
And the fact that Samsung seem completely unconcerned about updating the Tab 10.1 to 3.2 must surely raise questions as to their commitment to bringing ICS to it in a timely fashion.
Considering Samsung has gotten the first hands-on look with ICS since they are making the next Nexus I would imagine they would have already gotten a head start on developing it for the Tab, which is their flagship tablet.
I'm the owner of a Samsung Vibrant and I really think it has been the US carriers letting us down with updates for the GS line. The international Galaxy S has already gotten Gingerbread a very long time ago while everyone in the US is, officially anyway, stuck on Froyo.
So I would also imagine that since the carriers aren't involved in the WIFI model's update process that we will be seeing faster updates for the US WIFI model.
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Considering Samsung has gotten the first hands-on look with ICS since they are making the next Nexus I would imagine they would have already gotten a head start on developing it for the Tab, which is their flagship tablet.
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They may be making the hardware but the mark of a Nexus device is that Google handles the software in-house, Samsung quite possibly will have had minimal access to the code so far.
Equally, Google are supposed to be implementing a scheme whereby the larger, 'better' Android OEMs get advanced access to the source code of new Android versions in return for keeping their devices updated quickly and generally providing the best possible user experience for their Android devices.
So it is possible Samsung already have access to the ICS source code but, as I said, it's hard to be positive about ICS when Samsung seemingly can't be bothered bringing us a much smaller update.
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I'm the owner of a Samsung Vibrant and I really think it has been the US carriers letting us down with updates for the GS line. The international Galaxy S has already gotten Gingerbread a very long time ago while everyone in the US is, officially anyway, stuck on Froyo.
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The i9000 has had Gingerbread for a while now, yeah, though it was still a fair way behind other handsets in receiving the update - a number of HTCs got in there first if memory serves.
That said, as someone else already pointed out, Samsung have done a far better job of keeping the Galaxy S2 updated, so it seems that they are at least moving in the right direction.
Check out my post, its title Ipad 3, we are all dealing with this slow update process, apple is far ahead in the update department.
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