CLARIFICATION: SamFirmware.com is NOT directly affiliated with Samsung Corp., but have links with them apparently (which explains how the ROMs leak).
Seen on Tweeter:
@SamFirmware
"Samsung: No Android 3.0 for Galaxy Tab."
http://twitter.com/#!/SamFirmware/status/55595012687282177
"today in meeting Samsung told me no 3.0 for Galaxy Tab. (Problem = Hardware.)"
http://twitter.com/#!/SamFirmware/status/55600489827549184
To put these statements in perspective:
http://androidandme.com/2010/09/news/galaxy-tab-qa-honeycomb-tablet-coming-next-year/
"The Samsung Galaxy Tab will launch with FroYo (Android 2.2) and eventually be upgraded to Gingerbread (maybe Android 3.0), but Samsung said Honeycomb was for a different kind of tablet experience."
“Moving forward with Honeycomb, that will be used in the next generation tablet as it is specifically optimized for different type of tablet, and will be used on another product only.”
it stinks samsung, samsung ever for me, any product that carries this brand will be part of my house !!!!!!!!!!
he not take care of their customers and it will lose one today! of that there is a 7-inch tab with another brand, I buy, preference for HTC !!!
thanks for this news, even if it is bad
Have they posted the source for this 'quote'? Probably not. Things like this shouldn't be believed until its official.
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I would take anything samfirmware takes with a pinch of salt. It was the same site that said Samsung IS updating to honeycomb not so long back.
Until Samsung themselves say anything ill wait.
daniel.weck said:
Seen on Tweeter:
"@SamFirmware: Samsung: No Android 3.0 for Galaxy Tab."
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Should have posted with source link. Otherwise.....
"@SamFirmware: Samsung: No Android 3.0 for Galaxy Tab but free ipads for tab owners."
Agreed! Lets wait for an official response but I'm pretty sure its true.
Ps-this has nothing to do with development do why did you put it in this section? We all need to do our part in cleaning & maintaining these threads.
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These are the same people who have bricked more tabs than fixed.
I trust Samfirmwares as far as I can throw a fat kid. Bout 2 inches.
I dont see an abysmal difference between 2.2, 2.3 ... 3.0, everything works pretty much the same. the layout of 3.0 may not be the best for a 7inch tablet anyways... perhaps google will meet us halfway and release something that is not 3.0 but will run apps made for 3.0 or something like that. if we never get 3.0 its not going to be a big deal for me, maybe I am on a different situation because I just got it, and most of you have had it for while. and I could get the xoom if 3.0 was that big of a deal but I've played with the xoom and its just too big for me, I like the portability of the galaxy tab and that is more imporant that having honeycomb.
Honeycomb was the last reason to keep GTAB... now i will sell it and buy Kindle...
faust86 said:
Honeycomb was the last reason to keep GTAB... now i will sell it and buy Kindle...
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How many devices are out there right now with ROMs on them that aren't official or haven't even been released?
Crummy reason to give up the best available tablet on the market today. (That's called an opinion, and I'm entitled to mine)
I'm fairly confident that at some stage we will have fully functional and stable honeycomb on our tabs. Does it really matter if it's not an official Samsung release?
After all, if all we're interested in is getting official updates from vendor sources then there's little or no point being on these forums.
Have faith in the developers here, in my opinion they provide more reliable roms than the vendors!
just one question, what the hell do you guys expect? if somebody port honeycomb to the tab we will have it. but whats the point? what you are actual missing on your tab? why need sooo much honeycomb? i guess in 95% of all cases its just the childish "must have" instinct like me....
so stay calm, lets enjoy our tab and stop to blame samsung....
I did quite trust the dev here, more than a samsung, but I am disappointed to have paid a very expensive tablet and end samsung not take care of customers, but many want our money !!!
I do not like their politics !!!
I trust samfirmware saying no honeycomb for the galaxy tab as much as I trust apple to tell me a quote from samsung[1]. wait for official sources to confirm or deny.
[1] referring to steve jobs displaying the misquote of samsung's ceo at the iPad2 event
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just one question, what the hell do you guys expect? if somebody port honeycomb to the tab we will have it. but whats the point? what you are actual missing on your tab? why need sooo much honeycomb? i guess in 95% of all cases its just the childish "must have" instinct like me....
so stay calm, lets enjoy our tab and stop to blame samsung....
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Maybe because some apps will only work on honeycomb.
Can anyone here honestly say that they bought there Tab because Samsung said that it would get Honeycomb? I don't recall Samsung ever officially saying anything of the sort personally, though I stand ready to be corrected!
Yes, it would be really nice to get an official Honeycomb ROM, but when I bought my Tab I knew it was coming with Froyo and I knew that Samsungs track record in the past with respect to new Android versions wasn't great.
If we get Gingerbread out of Samsung, I'd say that was a win personally.
Regards,
Dave
EDIT: Interesting article here dated September 2010, where Samsung effectively say that the Tab 7" wouldn't get Honeycomb.
HoneyComb IS here...
Hey guys its actually already been done. A russian developer already flashed it, and it works. ofcourse its an alfa version and there are tons of stuff that is not working, but that means in a few weeks and with all the smart people we have here, it will be done. Here is the link
http://www.max-up.ru/news-apple/android-30-honeycomb-galaxy-tab-gsm.html
Mohamed Sewidan
even htc flyer will be offered honeycomb.
http://www.carrypad.com/2011/04/06/...t-how-will-it-work-with-inking-and-htc-sense/
samsung has to do better to keep their customers.
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Hey guys its actually already been done. A russian developer already flashed it, and it works. ofcourse its an alfa version and there are tons of stuff that is not working, but that means in a few weeks and with all the smart people we have here, it will be done. Here is the link
http://www.max-up.ru/news-apple/android-30-honeycomb-galaxy-tab-gsm.html
Mohamed Sewidan
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Erhhh, you're coming a bit late to the party here!
a) This is based on the work of spacemoose1 from these forums for CDMA Tabs.
b) Many people here have flashed it or tried flashing it.
c) At best, it can be considered a very early alpha - it isn't in a state where you could remotely use it as a daily driver!
Regards,
Dave
foxmeister said:
Erhhh, you're coming a bit late to the party here!
a) This is based on the work of spacemoose1 from these forums for CDMA Tabs.
b) Many people here have flashed it or tried flashing it.
c) At best, it can be considered a very early alpha - it isn't in a state where you could remotely use it as a daily driver!
Regards,
Dave
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yes I completely agree but that means that we have hope that the devs are going to work on it to make it work. So saying No honeycone is not accurate.
Also Here is the link from the tab general forum
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1023437
Related
So i was reading an article in regards to new tabs coming out this year (http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Rivals-to-the-iPad-Say-This-nytimes-3459496839.html?x=0) and there was a paragraph that read as follows:
"Devices can already run Android 2.3, known as Gingerbread, and Android 3.0, known as Honeycomb, is scheduled to be available this year. Andy Rubin, vice president for engineering at Google, showed a prototype of a Motorola tablet running the operating system at a conference in December."
Am i missing something? What tabs are running 2.3? My T-Mobile tab sure isn't and still no word on an update, and if 3.0 will be coming out soon what is the point of releasing or updating to 2.3?
Very aggravating.....
You bought a tab with 2.2 right? Then what are you crying for. Nobody said the tab would be getting anything else. So are you buying devices for what they are? Or are you buying them for what you want them to be, because electronics don't work like that.
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You bought a tab with 2.2 right? Then what are you crying for. Nobody said the tab would be getting anything else. So are you buying devices for what they are? Or are you buying them for what you want them to be, because electronics don't work like that.
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Yes my tab is running 2.2, all i was trying to say is that since they are mentioning that there are tabs running 2.3 and the up coming 3.0 i just wanted to know when are were going to get those updates. Yes i am happy with the way the tab runs now but if there is something out there that other tabs already run, why not expect that to be on mine.
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Yes my tab is running 2.2, all i was trying to say is that since they are mentioning that there are tabs running 2.3 and the up coming 3.0 i just wanted to know when are were going to get those updates. Yes i am happy with the way the tab runs now but if there is something out there that other tabs already run, why not expect that to be on mine.
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It just says there are devices running 2.3. It doesn't say Galaxy Tabs specifically!
FYI, there are no updates for 2.3 for any Tab at present - at least not in general distribution.
Regards,
Dave
foxmeister said:
It just says there are devices running 2.3. It doesn't say Galaxy Tabs specifically!
FYI, there are no updates for 2.3 for any Tab at present - at least not in general distribution.
Regards,
Dave
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Thanks for pointing that out, i figured since the article was talking about tabs i assumed that's what it meant plus the fact that the very last line states: "Andy Rubin, vice president for engineering at Google, showed a prototype of a Motorola tablet running the operating system at a conference in December."
adinis78 said:
Thanks for pointing that out, i figured since the article was talking about tabs i assumed that's what it meant plus the fact that the very last line states: "Andy Rubin, vice president for engineering at Google, showed a prototype of a Motorola tablet running the operating system at a conference in December."
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You just answered your own question there the clue was in prototype, and if you watch the video of him doing the demo hes very careful about how and what he shows so that he does'nt encounter any problems, both the os and the tablet are prototypes and as such are'nt ready for distribution yet.
Hi,
unfortunately, HoneyComb won't be available for Tab. Samsung will only update to 2.3. Officially, HoneyComb needs dual-core processors and bigger screen size and perhaps that's the reason it won't be updated on the Tab
i don't agree with the fact that we buy electronics purely for what they are.. the potential of what it can be should be taken into consideration. The Tab is a great machine but still not exactly a tablet due to the OS. Its unfortunate that i will never be (again due to OS). i do own a Tab and it has served me well but i was kinda hoping for improvement (as all gadgets owners would).
When I buy a blender or a TV I don't expect anything other than what I get in the box. When I build a PC I don't expect the graphics card to get the new DX or OGL hrdware implamented with a firmware upgrade when the company releases info on new cards. When I buy an OS I read the features and only expect fixes, not another OS in a few months.
Why do people assume because it's a Tablet it has to morph into other things every few months? Samsung didn't shut down their Tablet R&D when they released the SGT. No, they took what worked and continued to add to it. OF course they are going to stop putting new s#!t on there old hardware and push their new hardware with it as feature. Why? Becasue Average Joe doesn't understand the hardware difference but tell them it's got a whole "new" OS and throw in a catch phrase like "multi core" and "Multi Task" and *Bam!* sales.
It's not a new way of doing business. It's just a new platform to do it on.
Incorrect the product testing guy at Google already said there's no such requirements for3. 0
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Wrong xenomage, there is NO hardware requirement for Gingerbread.
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Ashvsaod said:
Wrong xenomage, there is NO hardware requirement for Gingerbread.
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Did you mean Honeycomb
Last official xeu release was
CSC. JJ3
MODEM JID
PDA. JJ3
can't find anything else
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i thought JJ7 was the last release , thats what I upgraded to?? or am I missing something (xue??) ??
The next update may well be 2.3 , thats why it has been a while
only for carphone tabs
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only for carphone tabs
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so they are stuck on JJ3??
glad I went to PCWorld
i am so thanksfull
TaIz82 said:
Did you mean Honeycomb
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Yep. My bad.
Anyway, apparently the minimum hardware requirement is wrongly reported. The Gtab can run honeycomb but sadly Samsung will not support it.
No matter, I'm sure we'll be able to download and update via this forum ;-)
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xenomage said:
Hi,
unfortunately, HoneyComb won't be available for Tab. Samsung will only update to 2.3. Officially, HoneyComb needs dual-core processors and bigger screen size and perhaps that's the reason it won't be updated on the Tab
i don't agree with the fact that we buy electronics purely for what they are.. the potential of what it can be should be taken into consideration. The Tab is a great machine but still not exactly a tablet due to the OS. Its unfortunate that i will never be (again due to OS). i do own a Tab and it has served me well but i was kinda hoping for improvement (as all gadgets owners would).
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you are wrong the android devs even said it does not REQUIRE dual core OR a larger screen size plz dont make stuff up
xenomage said:
Hi,
unfortunately, HoneyComb won't be available for Tab. Samsung will only update to 2.3. Officially, HoneyComb needs dual-core processors and bigger screen size and perhaps that's the reason it won't be updated on the Tab
i don't agree with the fact that we buy electronics purely for what they are.. the potential of what it can be should be taken into consideration. The Tab is a great machine but still not exactly a tablet due to the OS. Its unfortunate that i will never be (again due to OS). i do own a Tab and it has served me well but i was kinda hoping for improvement (as all gadgets owners would).
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You can buy electronics for any reason you'd like but if don't buy it for what it is, you WILL be disappointed at some point. That is an absolutely certainty. How about that iPad? Think there's any technical reason it couldn't run a Flash player? All those people who bought an iPad expecting Jobs to eventually relent and allow Flash are pretty disappointed right about now because there's absolutely no technical reason it couldn't work and yet it doesn't and, most likely, never will. Samsung doesn't need to ever do anything with the Tab again and I would be happy with what it does because it meets my needs. That's why I bought it. I kind of doubt that "needs dual-core..." stuff, too. Every company annouces that nonsense and then we find out six months later that the latest and greatest runs just fine on year old hardware when you hack around the arbitrary checks that stop it from running.
Technobuffalo has an article quoting Mr. Schmidt of Google saying ICS will be deployed around Oct/Nov. How long till the Tab sees it? Is there even a point if it is mostly going to be based off of honeycomb anyways?
http://www.technobuffalo.com/compan...eam-sandwich-coming-in-oct-or-nov-it-appears/
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If it doesn't hit the market in any form until November, I think very few existing products will see ICS this year.
Some might, if only so their manufacturers can behave like twelve-year-olds on the internet and jump up and down shouting 'First!' but I think it will come in reasonable time.
Stardate Tab 10.1 said:
Is there even a point if it is mostly going to be based off of honeycomb anyways?
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I think you're maybe looking at it the wrong way.
It doesn't matter what it's based on, all that matters is that it's the next step forward to an all-round better OS for both phones and tablets.
From what I understand (which is little) the biggest difference we Tablet owners will see will be the availability of more apps (phone apps) scaled up. Along with facial recognition, ability to save web pages for offline viewing, UI changes and scalable widgets.
What great times for Android. One operating system for all and with Amazon offering 50 bucks to developers till November and changes to their appstore coming before their tablet this winter it seems like it is just nonstop good news for Android users.
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Amazon is going to be one hell of a unique fork, OS wise. It should run most regular Android applications, but forget about customizing the UI, and forget about things like application sideloading, Google Music Beta, Google Books, Nook, (or ePubs in general). It'll be locked down tight (bet it won't even have SD card support) and it'll be missing (to some) key features, like cameras and GPS.
Most worrisome of all, if it's a big success and they sell all 5 million they plan on producing this year, it'll FURTHER fragment the Android user base, as developers will need to make stuff for 1.6-2.3 phones/tablets, 3.x tablets, 4.x phones and tablets, and and Amazon's fork of 2.2.
Good news is, if the sales are strong, it'll pull more developers over to the world of Dalvik, and some of that should trickle down to "regular" phones and tablets.
Croak said:
Amazon is going to be one hell of a unique fork, OS wise. It should run most regular Android applications, but forget about customizing the UI, and forget about things like application sideloading, Google Music Beta, Google Books, Nook, (or ePubs in general). It'll be locked down tight (bet it won't even have SD card support) and it'll be missing (to some) key features, like cameras and GPS.
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Where are people getting all this sort of information?
I hadn't seen any details about Amazon's take on Android but you're posting about it here and someone else is posting about it here.
One way or another the Galaxy Tab will have ICS within a month of AOSP release. Maybe not a official Samsung release though!
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Samsung LOL, around Feb officially....
DT3CH said:
Samsung LOL, around Feb officially....
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A Samsung official update? Nooo more like June We may have a CM8 build by Feb, but this is assuming that Google doesn't sit on its hands over the AOSP release. It takes a while for the source to drop
I'm pretty sure when Google releases the source to ICS one of the talented devs on this forum will port an AOSP over to the Galaxy Tab, I don't see why they wouldn't.
x-ravin said:
A Samsung official update? Nooo more like June We may have a CM8 build by Feb, but this is assuming that Google doesn't sit on its hands over the AOSP release. It takes a while for the source to drop
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Ahh what I meant to say was Samsung will release it in Feb but then pull it after too many bugs...... then take till June like you said
Mmmmmm CM8 on this would be awesome, running a CM variant on my SGS
Step666 said:
Where are people getting all this sort of information?
I hadn't seen any details about Amazon's take on Android but you're posting about it here and someone else is posting about it here.
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http://techcrunch.com/2011/09/02/amazon-kindle-tablet/
Step666 said:
Where are people getting all this sort of information?
I hadn't seen any details about Amazon's take on Android but you're posting about it here and someone else is posting about it here.
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i dont want to look like i dont have any faith in our devs but how can you believe they will port the aosp ICS to tab 10.1 when its on even though we dont have any kernel for even p7500 ?
i switched to tab10.1 from xoom for 2 reasons; 1, the screen was better and 2, i believed it would be more populer so it would have more devs than the xoom..
screen is perfect but the number 2 let me down..
_delice_doluca_ said:
i dont want to look like i dont have any faith in our devs but how can you believe they will port the aosp ICS to tab 10.1 when its on even though we dont have any kernel for even p7500 ?
i switched to tab10.1 from xoom for 2 reasons; 1, the screen was better and 2, i believed it would be more populer so it would have more devs than the xoom..
screen is perfect but the number 2 let me down..
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What? Pershoot has a kernel for the 7500... And nobody can "let you down" unless they owe you something...
_delice_doluca_ said:
i dont want to look like i dont have any faith in our devs but how can you believe they will port the aosp ICS to tab 10.1 when its on even though we dont have any kernel for even p7500 ?
i switched to tab10.1 from xoom for 2 reasons; 1, the screen was better and 2, i believed it would be more populer so it would have more devs than the xoom..
screen is perfect but the number 2 let me down..
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There's no guarantee that ICS will offer any real improvement on the Tab, aside from maybe scaling older phone apps better (though 3.2 should fix that).
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What? Pershoot has a kernel for the 7500... And nobody can "let you down" unless they owe you something...
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sorry i havent seen it.. besides i wasnt trying to say they owe us those kernels.. really, i apretiate their work.. but i am sure you understand what i am trying to say..
I can't wait for ICS, but I'd be happy with any vanilla android right now. TouchWiz annoys the crap out of me.
Well i mean this is just speculation from my standpoint.
For wifi versions, no 3rd party software developers are impeding the process
I.E. Verizon LTE versions are affected by Verizon's wishes as some people had problems with the Fascinate if you know what i mean.
Now i believe that the reason we are not getting anymore updates on the 10.1 tab for honeycomb is because of the upcoming release of the ICS.
Because ICS will be for both phones and tablets, there is probably no interest from Samsung to spend the time and the resources to update their tablets to the most updated software.
And as we all know Samsung got the first dibs on the ISC software code, i think it is not in the near future that Samsung begins to release ICS source code for all of their products.
It maybe even possible that they are working on ICS for their soon to be released products such as Galaxy Note, Galaxy TAB 7+, Galaxy Tab 7.7
OH well this was just my simple rant for today
I wanted to know what your thoughts were..
Best,
3.2 is more for smaller screen tabs. We are not missing much aside from resizable Widgets.
Look at all the issues the guys in the Asus forums are having with 3.2.
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I don't think they are working on it because they are engulfed in a legal battle with Apple...
Since its been only two month since the "Touchwiz" update and there are no pressing bugs to fix nor brings 3.2 any real needed functionality, I'm not surprised that Samsung hasn't updated the tab. A new version number might seem important to a few people but I can understand why it's not exactly high priority at Samsungs.
The 7+ is launching next month on T-Mobile US with 3.2. The SGS2 currently runs 2.3, 2.4, and 2.5 depending on the market. We think a lot harder about this than Samsung does.
These threads are in every forum. This is not just Samsung. Every phone/tablet forum has people who want the next update as soon as it is announced. What are the real differences between touchwiz and 3.2? I can already resize widgets.
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Raistlin1 said:
I don't think they are working on it because they are engulfed in a legal battle with Apple...
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Samsung's lawyers are their developers?
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millemots said:
Samsung's lawyers are their developers?
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Lol hahghaa. That would be funny of they really are.
i prefer samsung focus on ICS instead of 3.2
ICS is around the corner..
Also..who here thinks that Steve Kondik uses a Galaxy Tab 10.1 as well?
thinking CM8 ? that will be a very very nice addition to the tab
me personally cant wait till ICS goes open source so that CM team can take it and start doing CM8
hoping that CM8 alpha comes in two month or so.. (assuming Google exposes ICS to the world by mid Oct)
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Samsung's lawyers are their developers?
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That's the same thought I had when I read his comment.
I guess 3.2 doesn't really make a big difference but I sure would like to see an update where the speed and fluidness of the software is improved.
span_01 said:
I guess 3.2 doesn't really make a big difference but I sure would like to see an update where the speed and fluidness of the software is improved.
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Actually the latest update KI1 (for the European GT10.1 3G) makes the GT10.1 much smoother then my Xoom wich has Android 3.2.1
Other then the app resize function, there is nothing new in 3.2 and i have never used this function.
Stardate Tab 10.1 said:
These threads are in every forum. This is not just Samsung. Every phone/tablet forum has people who want the next update as soon as it is announced. What are the real differences between touchwiz and 3.2? I can already resize widgets.
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I think people should just enjoy their Tabs...
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Stardate Tab 10.1 said:
These threads are in every forum. This is not just Samsung. Every phone/tablet forum has people who want the next update as soon as it is announced. What are the real differences between touchwiz and 3.2? I can already resize widgets.
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True, we all want the latest and greatest. I'm using a custom rom that has completely changed my experience with the tab. Enjoying this. . .I can wait.
Probably because they are really busy optimising 3.1 for GT 10.1v.
chlrbwls said:
It maybe even possible that they are working on ICS for their soon to be released products such as Galaxy Note, Galaxy TAB 7+, Galaxy Tab 7.7
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They'll almost certainly be working on it but the devices you've listed will be released with 2.3.X, 3.2 and 3.2 respectively.
So Samsung clearly are devoting some resources to working on 3.2, albeit for other models of Tab.
It raises the possibility that the 3.2 update might be released around the same time as these new models of Tab, though it's obviously a matter of waiting and seeing.
nandihno said:
i prefer samsung focus on ICS instead of 3.2
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Whilst ICS is certainly a bigger update than 3.2, I don't feel we should have to justify missing out on one software update by hoping that we get the next one sooner.
Good after-sales support would've seen us running 3.2 already as well as receiving ICS, not one or the other.
And the fact that Samsung seem completely unconcerned about updating the Tab 10.1 to 3.2 must surely raise questions as to their commitment to bringing ICS to it in a timely fashion.
Considering Samsung has gotten the first hands-on look with ICS since they are making the next Nexus I would imagine they would have already gotten a head start on developing it for the Tab, which is their flagship tablet.
I'm the owner of a Samsung Vibrant and I really think it has been the US carriers letting us down with updates for the GS line. The international Galaxy S has already gotten Gingerbread a very long time ago while everyone in the US is, officially anyway, stuck on Froyo.
So I would also imagine that since the carriers aren't involved in the WIFI model's update process that we will be seeing faster updates for the US WIFI model.
MMcCraryNJ said:
Considering Samsung has gotten the first hands-on look with ICS since they are making the next Nexus I would imagine they would have already gotten a head start on developing it for the Tab, which is their flagship tablet.
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They may be making the hardware but the mark of a Nexus device is that Google handles the software in-house, Samsung quite possibly will have had minimal access to the code so far.
Equally, Google are supposed to be implementing a scheme whereby the larger, 'better' Android OEMs get advanced access to the source code of new Android versions in return for keeping their devices updated quickly and generally providing the best possible user experience for their Android devices.
So it is possible Samsung already have access to the ICS source code but, as I said, it's hard to be positive about ICS when Samsung seemingly can't be bothered bringing us a much smaller update.
MMcCraryNJ said:
I'm the owner of a Samsung Vibrant and I really think it has been the US carriers letting us down with updates for the GS line. The international Galaxy S has already gotten Gingerbread a very long time ago while everyone in the US is, officially anyway, stuck on Froyo.
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The i9000 has had Gingerbread for a while now, yeah, though it was still a fair way behind other handsets in receiving the update - a number of HTCs got in there first if memory serves.
That said, as someone else already pointed out, Samsung have done a far better job of keeping the Galaxy S2 updated, so it seems that they are at least moving in the right direction.
Check out my post, its title Ipad 3, we are all dealing with this slow update process, apple is far ahead in the update department.
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http://android.hdblog.it/2011/10/28/samsung-italia-conferma-android-4-0-su-galaxy-s2-note-e-tab-nel-2012/
Thank god, thanks to this i'll order one!
RASTANIUS said:
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http://android.hdblog.it/2011/10/28/samsung-italia-conferma-android-4-0-su-galaxy-s2-note-e-tab-nel-2012/
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I don't think there was any doubt of this, but it's nice to have a rough guess of when we'll get it.
There will be custom roms in the meantime but I suspect we'll lose a lot of stylus support.
- Frank
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http://android.hdblog.it/2011/10/28/samsung-italia-conferma-android-4-0-su-galaxy-s2-note-e-tab-nel-2012/
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Great newsI just like mine arrive
ChodTheWacko said:
I don't think there was any doubt of this, but it's nice to have a rough guess of when we'll get it.
There will be custom roms in the meantime but I suspect we'll lose a lot of stylus support.
- Frank
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Pretty sure I read somewhere that ICS has alot of native stylus support. But for S-Pen apps then yeah...
methree said:
Pretty sure I read somewhere that ICS has alot of native stylus support. But for S-Pen apps then yeah...
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Yes, ICS has support for Pressure Sensitive screens.
I don't understand why everyone thinks the Note will get ICS.
Its just some blog that says so...
They even have edited their post now:
Update : is not official confirmation from Samsung Korea (the only one who can give the full official) but is "a hypothesis" for the next updates. Only Samsung Korea will confirm the roadmap of aggironamenti.
I say, the Note does not get an Official ICS...
Its far more logical that the Note II will get ICS.
NO confirmation, nowhere. Stop fooling yourself.
Gede said:
I don't understand why everyone thinks the Note will get ICS.
Its just some blog that says so...
They even have edited their post now:
Update : is not official confirmation from Samsung Korea (the only one who can give the full official) but is "a hypothesis" for the next updates. Only Samsung Korea will confirm the roadmap of aggironamenti.
I say, the Note does not get an Official ICS...
Its far more logical that the Note II will get ICS.
NO confirmation, nowhere. Stop fooling yourself.
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Why are you so negative about ICS? Secondly, note is a brand new device. Almost all devices from past 6 months must get an upgrade to ICS.
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Why are you so negative about ICS? Secondly, note is a brand new device. Almost all devices from past 6 months must get an upgrade to ICS.
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I am not negative about ICS. I would like ICS.
Its just not likely the Note will get ICS, and NOWHERE Samsung did say the Note will get ICS.
Its just some blog (looking for some extra visitors I guess), hearsay and such, and everyone thinks its going to happen.
Wait for an official Samsung announcement, than talk about "its confirmed".
And why "Almost all devices from past 6 months must get an upgrade to ICS" ??
Wishful thinking maybe?
Because otherwise it's bad PR. Android devices which are at least six months old have always been updated.
Think about what Samsung needs to do if they put ICS on this Note.
They spend a lot of money on marketing the Note, and its just about to get released...
If they would put ICS on this Note, they either have to revise all the marketing material, or recreate the exact same software on ICS, including launcher etc.
Even the Italian blog mentions second quarter 2012 as a date for a possible Note update to ICS.
By that time the market is also ready for a Note II with ICS 4.5
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Think about what Samsung needs to do if they put ICS on this Note.
They spend a lot of money on marketing the Note, and its just about to get released...
If they would put ICS on this Note, they either have to revise all the marketing material, or recreate the exact same software on ICS, including launcher etc.
Even the Italian blog mentions second quarter 2012 as a date for a possible Note update to ICS.
By that time the market is also ready for a Note II with ICS 4.5
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If they don't update to ICS, Samsung will have a lot of negative media about not supporting there brand new flagship devices. Which will result in a lot more of a loss than the gain. Plus they have to update TW to ICS anyway, they might as well put a bit of more effort and make it work for Note. And ICS can act as an incentive for newer purchases, people always like forward to buy newest Android OS. Galaxy S2 came out and still they are providing updates for Galaxy, why do you think that happens?
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If they don't update to ICS, Samsung will have a lot of negative media about not supporting there brand new flagship devices. Which will result in a lot more of a loss than the gain. Plus they have to update TW to ICS anyway, they might as well put a bit of more effort and make it work for Note. And ICS can act as an incentive for newer purchases, people always like forward to buy newest Android OS. Galaxy S2 came out and still they are providing updates for Galaxy, why do you think that happens?
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We will see.
But there is no official announcement or confirmation from Samsung that they will update the Note to ICS. Its just a blog, and they already had an "update" in their post, they are not so sure anymore.
So the title of this post is wrong.
Gede said:
I am not negative about ICS. I would like ICS.
Its just not likely the Note will get ICS, and NOWHERE Samsung did say the Note will get ICS.
Its just some blog (looking for some extra visitors I guess), hearsay and such, and everyone thinks its going to happen.
Wait for an official Samsung announcement, than talk about "its confirmed".
And why "Almost all devices from past 6 months must get an upgrade to ICS" ??
Wishful thinking maybe?
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As I said in another thread, it would be a PR disaster for Samsung to come out with a phone at the same time they issue ICS and not provide an upgrade path.. At thIs point I think you're speculating yourself, and you need to sit and wait like the rest of us and see what happens. My bet is you are very wrong.
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I hope I am wrong.
But you agree there is no confirmation to be found, right ?
(And the rest is speculating)
Google requires all manufacturers to deliver updates for at least 6 months for all new devices.
So ICS should come to the Note.
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Google requires all manufacturers to deliver updates for at least 6 months for all new devices.
So ICS should come to the Note.
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Yes. In this case Gingerbread updates. 2.3.x updates.
i am pretty sure given the way samsung has been working these days.
However i dont have any confirmation.
actually, Google said 18 months. I am quite certain that ICS will land on any Galaxy S2 and after device. PR disaster. I mean look at the other KOrean maker, LG, they are not exactly doing great.
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Yes. In this case Gingerbread updates. 2.3.x updates.
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You clearly dont know what the hell you are talking about here!
Google wants that all manufactures update to ICS because of fragmentation. Google will update once a year like Apple!
The Note II maybe not coming at all if this thing does not sell. So they will update this Note to ICS. Every new phone you buy from Sammy will get 18 months of Support So that means ICS will come to the Note!
Mark my words ! Of Course they will not confirm this this quick because of the galaxy Nexus. It will interfear the sales of that phone!
Samsung Italy has announced which devices they are planning on upgrading to Android 4.0 Ice Cream Sandwich.
That list is:
Galaxy S II
Galaxy Note
Galaxy Tab 10.1
Galaxy Tab 8.9
Galaxy Tab 7.7
Galaxy Tab 7.0 Plus
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Source:
http://www.eurodroid.com/2011/10/28/report-samsung-italy-confirms-galaxy-s-ii-android-4-0-update/
This is absolutely ridiculous. Our tablet came out in November of last year. It's less than a year old, and Samsung is dropping us already despite being a member of Google's so-called Update Alliance.
Guess Samsung hasn't changed at all from the old days.
If this pisses you off like it pisses me off, maybe we can shame them if we complain enough on their Facebook and Twitter pages, I already did:
http://www.facebook.com/SamsungUSA#!/SamsungUSA?sk=wall
https://www.facebook.com/SamsungMobile?sk=wall
http://twitter.com/#!/SamsungMobileUS
http://twitter.com/#!/Samsungtweets
In the end, if Samsung drops us like yesterday's garbage, at least we still have our great devs here, like we always have.
I feel very lucky to have the developers!
Updated the post with the Samsung Facebook and Twitter feeds that I complained on.
With Samsung's "galaxy this and galaxy that" devices with different hardware specs you cannot expect the samsung team to come up with updates to each and everyone of them. That is a big nightmare.
As for me I will never again make a mistake in buying a samsung device. Support for an expensive device from samsung really sucks!
And to discover later that the device is not really up to quality and seems "untested" thoroughly adds to the disappointment. Example is the warming of the GT after some time of using. I have to mention that after using a rival tablet(I won't mention the brand) no similar warming happened .
manekineko said:
Samsung Italy has announced which devices they are planning on upgrading to Android 4.0 Ice Cream Sandwich.
That list is:
Source:
http://www.eurodroid.com/2011/10/28/report-samsung-italy-confirms-galaxy-s-ii-android-4-0-update/
This is absolutely ridiculous. Our tablet came out in November of last year. It's less than a year old, and Samsung is dropping us already despite being a member of Google's so-called Update Alliance.
Guess Samsung hasn't changed at all from the old days.
If this pisses you off like it pisses me off, maybe we can shame them if we complain enough on their Facebook and Twitter pages, I already did:
http://www.facebook.com/SamsungUSA#!/SamsungUSA?sk=wall&filter=12
http://twitter.com/#!/SamsungMobileUS
http://twitter.com/#!/Samsungtweets
In the end, if Samsung drops us like yesterday's garbage, at least we still have our great devs here, like we always have.
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Complain here too:
https://www.facebook.com/SamsungMobile?sk=wall
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Complain here too:
https://www.facebook.com/SamsungMobile?sk=wall
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Expect your complaint to be deleted asap!
it is expected that galaxy tab 7 wont have it. don't worry a port is coming soon.
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Complain here too:
https://www.facebook.com/SamsungMobile?sk=wall
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Thanks, added it to the original post.
I would be just happy with sammy providing a official rom for the latest gb. I am asking even ics.
So I recently started thinking a lot about the fragmentation and it is whole mess. Everyone not just google is to blame. I will hardly consider getting android again until this gets resolved some way.
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Can't we just get the damn drivers and source code... I trust the Dev community way more than any mfg
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If we can get the driver source code, we should be able to build ics for tab, just like almost any modem computer can run linux...
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Can't we just get the damn drivers and source code... I trust the Dev community way more than any mfg
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After the official Gingerbread update for the GT-P1000 I am kind-of glad that Samsung are not touching the ol' 7".
I too prefer to put my faith in the development community. Look at Technomancer's CM7 port. That ROM really kicks some ass.
Opensource FTW!!!
We know that the Galaxy Tab is a powerful device as much as other devices that has been upgrade coming soon. This movement isn't good for Samsung because everybody will not trust in them. I think they have the best hardware in the market, but actually there are other companies that have work too hard, as Sony Ericsson.
shame on samsung
Just tested alpha2 of the first ics port - no network for data yet, but smooth feeling on p1000 - glad I bought that one ;-)
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frake said:
Just tested alpha2 of the first ics port - no network for data yet, but smooth feeling on p1000 - glad I bought that one ;-)
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Nice! I will try it soon.
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Used the Galaxy Tab P1000 before... changed to EVO3D (Asian edition cannot be hacked)... regret it to the max... who the hell wants to unlock the bootloaders from htcdev.com and void their warranty.. .definitely not me...
HTC, nice build quality, but really for a 1.2GHz dual core, it still kind of laggy... probably my hacked out Tab P1000 works much smoother... plus, with all the hacking and flashing and bricking my device TWICE, still manage to get warranty repairs by Samsung...
had the EVO3D for only 2 months.. just got rid of it and bought the shiny new Galaxy Tab Plus... this dual core tab really kicks some ass... and manage to root it easily...
multi tasking on the fly.. do you see the bar at the bottom, click on it and easy access to mini apps over your current running apps.... Nice...
I am never a brand fanboy, been using HTC since like forever, but the increasing "LOCKED" bootloaders philosophy by HTC is getting on my nerves... they forget, many gadget freaks are buying Android phones for their "customization and being open source"...
at time being, will stick to Samsung, and will put my faith on XDA developers to bring this device to the next level... long live XDA Developers...
Who needs samsung when you have a bunch of cool devs on XDA
Samsung did not release even 2.3 for Russia..This is funny to wait ICS)
DenimTornado said:
Samsung did not release even 2.3 for Russia..This is funny to wait ICS)
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Same here. Never had a Gingerbread update here in Australia (but that's my carrier's fault, I think) so jumped straight to Overcome and haven't looked back, apart from the odd dabble in CM7 and a quick run with Honeycomb.
I'm more than happy to wait for the devs to release an ICS build which will probably end up better than anything Samsung could've done anyway.