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HTC Shift under Linux!

At first I had a really hard time accepting pof's claim that the HTC-Shift could be run under Linux and indeed my first attempts at this turned into a blinding nightmare of installs & reinstalls and utter frustration.
Because I tried to install my Laptop's SuSE Linux on the box, which won't even boot below version 11.0.
And even so it does install OK with 11.0 SuSE and I had sound and graphic running, none of the other functions could be enabled no matter what.
Last not least I have to say that other SuSE distros either have a hard time booting right on the Shift (DSL, GParted distro) w/o safety kernel parameters set or get problems with the graphics HW (e.g. Knoppix).
I made those initial mistakes because dear old pof forgot to make clear that the drivers he collected should only run on (K/X)Ubuntu.
Because as I found out through my own research, specially the SD6868 driver was specifically developed by & for the Ubuntu project.
Many of the other distros didn't work right even after installation.
They either stalled during boot time or got the partition table all messed up.
Specially the boot via GRUB install (for dual boot with WinXP) turned out to be a pain in the ass with anything but Ubuntu.
Only Ubuntu booted right away (still had to disable edd, apm and acpi on the installation, but with it all went through fine the first time around).
So please dear pof update your Website to point out that only Ubuntu (or Kubuntu/Xubuntu) should be used on the Shift.
With that, pof's driver collection works out of the box.
But the Touchscreen needs calibration and the Touchpad's sensitivity is originally set way to low.
Once those two settings are corrected it all works fine (albeit the touchscreen is still a bit clunky, its good enough to move windows around, fill out input forms and highlight text).
The WiFi connection also worked right away and was even faster than under Windoze - BUT I can not connect to a standard WEP128 bit encrypted network.
Only unencrypted connections seem to work at this time.
Battery and sensor connections also work, as does the USB port.
I can also switch resolutions - but no longer with the screen button which now only tilts the desktops, I have to use the KDE screen resolution application for that.
The font rendering has way(!!) improved over Vista. I finally can read small texts even at higher resolution.
And overall responsiveness is almost to fast for me
No more coffee breaks between tasks and boot-up time is down to under 3 minutes!
Multimedia also works at blazing speeds now. I can watch large movies at real time and even do MultiMedia editing.
Best of all, that nasty Vista bug with the missing/dropping SD cards is gone.
So all in all it was a steep learning curve (as always /w Linux) but now I finally got a useful machine which is a real asset to my productivity!

pharao said:
So please dear pof update your Website to point out that only Ubuntu (or Kubuntu/Xubuntu) should be used on the Shift.
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In my website it clearly states that the binary driver packages I published is for Ubuntu based distros only, because that's what I use on the shift. I also explain the "long way" to compile stuff etc, in case you want to run them in any other distro, because you can run any linux flavour on the shift as long as you have experience compiling your own kernel, and building some packages from source.

pof said:
In my website it clearly states that the binary driver packages I published is for Ubuntu based distros only, because that's what I use on the shift. I also explain the "long way" to compile stuff etc, in case you want to run them in any other distro, because you can run any linux flavour on the shift as long as you have experience compiling your own kernel, and building some packages from source.
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But that's exactly it pof ... it just won't compile on most other systems.
On SuSE you'll have double trouble because first the darn install DVD don't boot with anything below 11.0 but then the kernel for 11.0 starts with release x.26.
That's one version number to high for your package and even so I tried to still compile it in there, the modules won't load.
Second, the GUIs of these distros are just to separate amongst the different packages.
DSL boots up all right, but has trouble installing itself on the Hard Drive, much more so with the Desktop setting and any attempt at switching resolution.
Knoppix works sometimes and then again it doesn't - was never able to figure out what that was all about.
And the SuSE 11.0 distro doesn't give any error messages when I call up the embeddec controller program - heck the damn thing even allows me to click all around. But nothing happens, not with any of them.
And don't even try to get me started on trying to install Debian packages under SuSE :-(
I'm not sure how much you are into Linux pof, but messing around with the kernel is the last thing you want to do unless you're sure its gonna work.
And I've found that K/X/Ubuntu is the only distro that works out of the box, even during the install phase.
So I think just stating "well the packages are for Debian/Ubuntu systems but you can compile them on other distros, too" is not quite sufficient - as those other distros did cost me a week of my life (time I'd like to have back ;-)
Fact is that Ubuntu doesn't just work on the Shift right away, but its also the fastest distro amongst the ones I've listed.
So for all these reasons Ubuntu should get a big highlight with the sidenote "all other distros at your own risk as your mileage will(!) vary"
Only encrypted WiFi still isn't working...
PS: The folks at SuSE seem to be contemplating their own SD6868 driver for their next 11.x Alpha release - found a note to that regard on a developer blog.

And External mouse doesn't work
pof said:
In my website it clearly states that the binary driver packages I published is for Ubuntu based distros only, because that's what I use on the shift. I also explain the "long way" to compile stuff etc, in case you want to run them in any other distro, because you can run any linux flavour on the shift as long as you have experience compiling your own kernel, and building some packages from source.
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Dear Pof,
I used your custm drivers for ubuntu,Screen touch working great but external mouse has stopped wiorking.Is there anything wrong I have done ?
Thanks

yet another XP tablet PC installation guide from scratch

Hi @all:
maybe that can help other non experts like me, that they don´t read so much stuff.
Please give me your Experts- feedback, and I will change some (wrong) absence items, or anybody make this better?
Here my Experience with your help and your experience composed (that the result)
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History:
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HTC Shift Windows XP TPC Installation from scratch
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Before you start:
Think first about to open the Windows Mobile side like described in HTC forum. There is a good description
"howto" do this within windows Vista.
Before you install:
- enable WLAN und Bluetooth in Vista side (if you can). (not really necessary, but maybe easier later)
- Disable USB Tool (cable in) on Windows Mobile side if you have the "opened" Windows Mobile installed
- remove SD memory Card if inserted
- Insert the HTC USB Hub with integrated Network card
Install Windows XP TPC: (TPC Installation required 2 CDROMS from Microsoft and is only available for System Integrators or within the MSDN package)
I used a standard windows XP CD with integrated Service Pack 3 as first CD. the second CD with the additionals is standard out of the box.
as sample how to do "patch" or "upgrade" your WXP CD:
http://sysblogd.wordpress.com/2008/04/23/how-to-build-a-windows-xp-sp3-integrated-installation-cd/
(maybe there are many other easier solutions if you search in google)
if you test some other drivers like me, it is advisable to make a backup every step you try - that saves time, trust me ;-)
I use the most of the time acronis true image from a boot CD or from a bootable USB stick to make my "step by step" backups)
so we start with:
Step1:
install windows XP normaly from CDROM. Leave all settings like it is (standard)
After installation and machine is up, make minimal changes, recommended maybe change
the display resolution and the design (if you want classic Windows design) Not more!
Make a backup with acronis true image to CDROM or USB Stick. That´s the best way, if
you must start over with newer or other drivers or you have trouble within the driver installation ..
Step2:
1. Install the Chipset drivers from Intel for the 945 Chipset (latest ver. 9.0.0.1008 6/2/2008) ->Reboot
2. Install the Display Drivers from Intel for the 945 Chipset (latest ver. 14.32.4.4926 2/15/2008 ->Reboot
3. install the HTC Embedded Controller driver (actually Vista EC Driver from HTC´s Homepage named VistaECDrvV1[1].0.1.10.zip)
(see: http://www.htc.com/us/SupportDownload.aspx?p_id=60&cat=1&dl_id=82
open Windows XP Device Manager -> right click on unknown device -> install manually -> and tell them the path to
your unpacked Driver Archive. (I don´t use the setup.exe into this archive)
4. Install the HTC Touchscreen driver (actually Vista Touch screen driver from HTC´s Homepage) with setup.exe Application
4.1 Go to Start-Control Panel-System-Hardware-device Manager-Human Interface Devices-and here are two HID-compliant device.Disable only the first HID-compliant device
(the first HID - compliant from the top) Now the calibration into Systemmanagement is working
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make a backup!
5. Install synaptics Touchpad drivers original from synaptics Homepage:
(see: http://www.synaptics.com/support/drive.cfm ->restart
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5.1 Config Synaptics Touchpad (better meaning the 2 other Buttons on right upper side of shift for
switching Display resolution and Wireless Switcher)
ControlCenterLauncher.exe should be bound to SCROLL LEFT as described, and
ResolutionSwitchLauncher should be bound to SCROLL DOWN
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6. Install realtek high definition Audio drivers (at moment r.2.07 -Restart
(see: http://www.realtek.com.tw/downloads...=24&Level=4&Conn=3&DownTypeID=3&GetDown=false)
7. install the latest Asix USB2 LAN Driver here: AX88772_772A_WinXP2K_32bit_v3.4.3.23_WHQL_Setup
(see http://www.asix.com.tw/download.php then USB to Fast Ethernet and Model AX88772A
8. install the Fingerprint Auth1610 drivers (the newest is located by HP with Version 7.10.1.0
(see: http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/...&cc=us&dlc=en&product=3744020&os=2100&lang=en
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make backup
Step4:
9. Cygwin Installation
(see: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=435664&highlight=cygwin
9.1 Start cygwin setup.exe -> install from Internet -> leave all as default -> leave as deafault ->leave as default -> choise a mirror -> exand menu "devel" click where
is "ioperm" in the front on the "Skip" items, that change then to 0.4-1 -> (now is installing 3-4 minutes) declick the two ticks for desktop icon..
9.2 - After cygwin has been installed, open a cygwin bash shell (into C:\cygwin is a cygwin.bat file) start this, then comes a black Window:
here type "ioperm -i" on cygwin shell. then exit this black windows with the command "exit"
9.3 copy from hsect-2.1 folder the file hsect2 to c:\cygwin\bin
9.4 copy the 4 Batch files (HSECT) for enabling/disabling BT/WLAN to your Desktop
Additional switches: (if you need) Usage: hsect [option(s)]
options: (for selfwriting batch files)
-b Enter CE Bootloader
-e Exit CE Bootloader
-r Reboot WinCE
-W [0|1] Wifi On/Off
-B [0|1] Bluetooth On/Off
-l [val] Change LEDs. Values from 0x0 to 0x97
-L All LED off
-h Show this help message
10. Update the SDBUS.sys!
now unpack sdbus driver to c:\
reboot your shift and start again with your windows xp install CD
run recovery terminal (boot from Windows XP install cd normally and then use the "R" Key for recovery console
then copy c:\sdbus.sys to C:\windows\system32\drivers (use command: "copy c:\sdbus.sys C:\windows\system32\drivers" )
then when he sking override, say Yes "Y" and then type command "exit" (machine rebooting)
When Windows is Up again open device manager
on controller host secure digital->properties->driver detail
the driver version now is 6.053.......OK
11. Update WLAN Drivers
go to marvell sd-8686->properties->update driver->select the directory of wlan1.1 driver
and all WORK FINE!!!!!!
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Make a Backup now! Now you have a stable Version for testing.
other leaks:
- Memory Cards (SDHC) with more then 4 GB and the sdbus.sys driver for the SDA SD-Hostadapter
If you have problems with SDHC memory cards (not recognizing), I have found a solution, but i´m at the moment not shure if it stable. (is a package from Lenovo called "osda06us"
You must force update the Secure Digital Hostcontroller, but I´m not shure, which files at all. (normally they say, no new driver found so you must force that, but maybe there
is a other, newer driver outside in the far www ) (Which Hardware Vendor is the SD Card reader?)
see also http://forum.xda-developers.com/newreply.php?do=newreply&noquote=1&p=2813208
### changes: I noticed, as I fallback to an older Backup (that has not installed the needed "sdbus.sys" for WLAN, but only the standard sdbus.sys from XP CD) that SDHC "sometimes works, but the most time - when SDHC inserting - I become a bluescreen. Maybe so we must have a look to a other sdbus.sys driver described in WLAN Howto ### maybe with the needed *.inf file, so that this can install regulary. Maybe the missing *.inf file is the really problem...
- Display interpolation to a other (higher) resolution
no idea :-(
### helping, if something not working ###
If you have some problems I have a good idea: (Maybe XDA Developers help each other)
there is a good remote administration software like VNC called teamviewer.
( see: http://www.teamviewer.com/index.aspx ) with this tool you can take the desktop control from each other.
I use this tool the most of the time to help other with her PC (or PDA) Problems. The "USB Stick" Version that you can
find in the download section is the best. You can start it always from Desktop (you can copy it to USB stick too, but you can start it from desktop also)
No needing installation, and really easy to use and secure.
When some of my users have problems with Windows mobile PDA´s i let install them mymobiler ( see: http://www.mymobiler.com/ ) and with this
combinating (mymobiler and Teamviewer) i can get control of the PC and PDA.
that´s a fine solution I think. I think always open minded, and help with solutions like this many users the last 10 years ;-) If I become instead money
for helping with PC problems I had my own flat ;-)))) But my help is always free, to volunteer one's time. I think we should build a xda developers honorary
help line is a open source Idea But now I´m offline for one week, must go to a business trip :-(
bg
joy

What drivers are needed for the 3G modem under XP?... or are they built-in XP already?

Hi VeEuzUKY,
You cannot connect the 3G Modem directly over Windows. You must have to open the Windows Mobile side (called liberated ROM), then the Windows Mobile side is like a normal Windows Mobile PDA)
see: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=378234
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=420548
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=377441
and then you can use the standard Windows Mobile options for using 3G, (internet sharing) like you connected a WM6 PDA/smartphone via USB to your Computer. (but, the shift has this USB Connection inside, you must only use the USBtool on Windows Mobile side, to virtually connect the USB to the PC side) Only what do you do is install on Windows Side:
Active Sync 4.5.
well a good solution, so you must not install in Windows Side crazy drivers and connecting tools.
see:
http://blogs.msdn.com/zhengpei/archive/2008/06/06/how-windows-mobile-internet-sharing-works.aspx

Thanks for the info joy.d. I still dont quite understand if ActiveSync needs to be running or if its a background thing and its all 'seamless". With Vista things seem all to be more streamlined and working properly out of the box, obviousely. The whole conversion to XP is a heck of an adventure I will try it this upcoming weekend and see how it goes

Hi VeEuzUKY,
please make a backup with acronis, Ghost or whatever before, that´s the easiest way, to have a fallback to a working device. Maybe in the next time we found a solution for all.
the Internet connection is not comfortable like within Vista, but the normally procedere
when you have Windows XP PC/Notebook and a Windows Mobile PDA/Smartphone.
Normally you can optimize (look and feel) vista to the same performance like Windows XP tablet PC Edition, so it is not really necersary to make a downgrade.
Normally is a downgrade only interesting, if you use the "normal Windows XP" without Tablet PC addon, but with functionality of the Touchscreen. (much faster) I Think Tablet PC functions is only really interesting if you dont have a Keyboard. (andthe shift has) ;-)

Hey joy.d
thanks a lot for this guide. I know its takes a lot of time to put this
together. Its much appreciated.
I would like to ask you about the speed differences, especially
DIVX and MPG play. Do you get a nice video performance watching
movies?
I compared the Shift with the UX from Sony. the UX is just so much smoother
and faster. I was hoping XP would do the trick

Hi aquasesh,
I think the Sony UX have a integrated MPEG Decoder? (i´m not shure, but I remember the first "UMPC´s" from Sony the C1xxx Series, have integrated the most of the time a own Hardware Video Accelator. Maybe UX have it too?
I will try it next time, if I have time. I use the most time for all Video related playback issues
VLC ( http://www.videolan.org ) this is a open Source Video (Media) Player with many options.
When you talk from DIVX, I think, you can´t really win with the shift. To few 2nd Level Cache, slow southbridge, slow and old processor. (e.g. hehe: test your shift with the intel processor identification tool, that you can download from Intel ( http://downloadcenter.intel.com/Detail_Desc.aspx?agr=N&ProductID=1881&DwnldID=7838 )
the shift was - to my mind - dead before it come on the market. I think the shift was a study from HTC, to test the placement on the market. Let´s face it:
the shift is not beautiful, is not fast, has not notable features... the slider concept is mechanical curios.. ;-)
I don´t want to bash HTC or the shift, (i Buyd the most of all HTC devices that come to the european market) but the shift is not really a moneyspinner ;-)
But Sony is the most of the time not better. Bt they look and fell is much better

joy.d said:
Hi aquasesh,
I think the Sony UX have a integrated MPEG Decoder? (i´m not shure, but I remember the first "UMPC´s" from Sony the C1xxx Series, have integrated the most of the time a own Hardware Video Accelator. Maybe UX have it too?
I will try it next time, if I have time. I use the most time for all Video related playback issues
VLC ( http://www.videolan.org ) this is a open Source Video (Media) Player with many options.
When you talk from DIVX, I think, you can´t really win with the shift. To few 2nd Level Cache, slow southbridge, slow and old processor. (e.g. hehe: test your shift with the intel processor identification tool, that you can download from Intel ( http://downloadcenter.intel.com/Detail_Desc.aspx?agr=N&ProductID=1881&DwnldID=7838 )
the shift was - to my mind - dead before it come on the market. I think the shift was a study from HTC, to test the placement on the market. Let´s face it:
the shift is not beautiful, is not fast, has not notable features... the slider concept is mechanical curios.. ;-)
I don´t want to bash HTC or the shift, (i Buyd the most of all HTC devices that come to the european market) but the shift is not really a moneyspinner ;-)
But Sony is the most of the time not better. Bt they look and fell is much better
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I agree...but the keyboard on the UX is nothing. Virtually not usable.
I have no trouble to run my bluerays on my UX. Thats worth something.
But i just love the connectivity of the Shift.

I personally think the Shift is better looking than the UX and more functional (at least for my use), but that's a personal preference. I never considered the UX and not because of money considerations (as a matter of fact, I never considered UMPC, and still wouldn't if it wasn't for the Shift, so yeah, it has notable features and a form factor that works for me better than most out there).
On XP, the Shift runs fast and with no issues. I wouldn't watch a bluray disk on it even if I could. There's no point. I wouldn't care for a bluray on anything less than 46in, whoever sees the difference on such a small screen is just buying in the hype.
As for DivX on the Shift with XP, it plays smooth and with zero issues. I tested a few ones, one of them was the Incredible Hulk, avg bitrate of 1400kbps video and ac3 5.1. Watched a few high action scenes (here the bitrate would be well over the average) and it played as smooth as anything out there. And I had running evertyhing at the same time, e.g. turecrypt (full hdd encryption), eset security (antivirus and firewall), o&o defrag (in stealth mode), even google desktop (which btw on vista was enough to cripple the shift) and a few other things.
You don't need a hardware decoder for DivX/XviD with even a processor like on the Shift, it wouldn't make sense to (besides, hardware decoders have limitations and would have issues with some encoding settings used). MPEG-2 decoder, maybe. The processor is absolutely no issue for divx/xvid, whoever says otherwise doesn't know what they are talking about. There would be issues because of other non-efficient programs that might be running or OS like Vista. If you would have issues with it, it won't be for playback, but for encoding which would take a long time (but why would you do that on the Shift anyway). I'm still playing XviD movies on my 7 year old machine with no issues.
However, I'm using a rather effecient (if not the best) decoder, ffdshow and also mplayer classic (the best one imho), both of which should perform well in
slower machines.
P.S. I'm not saying the Shift is perfect, it ain't by a mile and with just a little more effort it could've been much better. I would've paid even more for SSD, better and more efficient processor and better battery life. But when it comes to form and features, that's what I needed, too bad HTC's execution wasn't very good.

Ubuntu on the HTC Shift

I've been checking out the stuff on the web about Linux on the shift, found these, pretty interesting. This ubuntu even detects the motion rolling from left to right, and he makes the cursor move around the screen by tilting the unit. Also has csreen rotation working:
http://mobilitysite.com/2008/07/ubuntu-in-a-htc-shift/
another one:
http://pof.eslack.org/blog/2008/04/14/linux-on-htc-shift/
"Once Ubuntu is installed, you get a menu at boot time which lets you choose which operating system to boot, Vista or Ubuntu. Surprisingly most of the hardware is auto-detected by ubuntu, and almost everything works out of the box:
* Audio is working, mute and volume control works using the Fn keys.
* SD card reader is working.
* Adjusting the screen backlight works with the proper Fn keys.
* Webcam is working (you can test it with gstreamer-properties).
* CPU frequency scaling works by default too on the Intel Stealy 800Mhz CPU, you can monitor it by enabling the cpufreq gnome pannel.
* ACPI is working, you can get the CPU temperature using the sensors-applet.
* Screen resolution works at 800×480. I have not tried higher resolutions yet.
* Bluetooth is working.
However there are a few things that require some extra work in order to have them working properly."

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=381915

its pof old work! it works only with 8.04 but once updated the system, most pof works will not work.

Hi
I installed Ubuntu last night as I can't get any other version of Windows (except the memory and space hogging Vista) to install at the moment.
I was very impressed with how much DID work without any fiddling and now I shall spend another few evenings reading exactly how to make the rest of it work.
I'm hoping to be able to then get rid of Vista (but not off the X partition JUST IN CASE!) and regain some space, but I think that I need Windows to run some software for my OU degree course... rather important given this was my excuse for buying a SHIFT (so I'd always be able to work on my degree regardless of where I was (or so my other half thinks!)).
However I know NOTHING about Linux and am somewhat daunted by it but also looking forward to getting a more "hands on" with the Shift and some more computing experience under my belt.
I am rather excited by the concept of actually being able to use things like the g-sensor. Why would HTC put it in then give you nothing to make it work under Vista? Kinda sums up their decision-process when creating the Shift, if you ask me...

Ubuntu on an external USB hard disk also works as described. Wireless doesn't work; this is noted elsewhere in this thread: the 8686 drivers need to be found, compiled, and installed; any detailed pointers would be much appreciated. 640x480 resolution (only) is a major drawback, as control panels come up with essential buttons off screen, and there doesn't seem to be any trick to move them on screen. It boots much faster and it is much more responsive than VISTA ... I would make Ubuntu permanent on the Shift platform if I could get wireless and the resolution control working.

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I would make Ubuntu permanent on the Shift platform if I could get wireless and the resolution control working.
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If you go to POF's website (link in the second link in the first message of this thread I think) there is an installer packet that should make WIFI work although being a Linux novice, it doesn't for me! It seems to do what it's meant to do as I can see stuff happening in the terminal window but nothing actually happens or changes after it's done...
I agree that the resolution is a BIG problem at 800 x 640 or whatever it is under Ubuntu 8.04 and hope someone has a solution soon PLEASE!

for Resolution, you can go and reconfig your Xserver yourself. Never used to get it to work on ubuntu but on gentoo no problem at all.
All other pof stuff will work with smal adjustments !! just read the right threads.

Neutron83 said:
for Resolution, you can go and reconfig your Xserver yourself. Never used to get it to work on ubuntu but on gentoo no problem at all.
All other pof stuff will work with smal adjustments !! just read the right threads.
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I think I did well to get as far as I did as a Noob actually (and a girl one at that!). I have no problem with people saying "search the forum" to people who ask simple questions like "how do I access SnapVue" but when someone's clearly done their research and is still struggling, it's very frustrating. I've just spent nearly ALL weekend on this forum (and google) and got as far as making Ubuntu 8.10 work as I wanted except Wifi and screen resolution, given no one else has mentioned any of these necessities working on 8.10 as far as I can remember and the fact I know nothing about Linux!! Proof in point; your first comment about the Xserver - I don't even know what that is (though I've probably been fiddling in it)
When I have the time I'll start a new thread with all my wonderful findings so it's all in one place - but I have to earn a living and feed the family so it's not high on my agenda this week. I'm due some time off work, so will aim to get it done then (like painting the kitchen and making curtains for my daughter's room...!)

I can upload older ubuntu 8.04 someplace. With this version all pofs configs and hacks work normally.

Hello together!
I'm also working on getting a current Linux up and running on the Shift (Arch Linux with kernel 2.6.28) and found these problems/"solutions":
- Display: I believe that's a combined hard- and software problem. The display doesn't report its correct capabilities and the driver doesn't handle interpolated resolutions that well (I modified the driver for this). I already mailed this to the xorg mailing list, but I didn't get an answer (perhaps I missed some information like driver version)
- Wifi: The old Marvell driver (from their website) isn't compatible with 2.6.28 anymore, but there is a new one in the kernel itself (called libertas), that only needs the firmware in /lib/firmware (check out this git repo if you need to). But at least in my case the chip is still not working, cause the SD controller is buggy and unknown. But I'm talking with some Devs who are willing to help.
- Touchscreen: You need this module to glue htcpen and the xserver together. Then it works like in Pof's manual.
All in all: I believe in having a fully working Linux on the Shift somewhen
Greetings,
Sven

Oaky guys:
Xserver = your grafical environment
Yea u're right the display doesnt send useable stuff to the Soft but you can hard overwrite the combinations of wich ModeLines are used, its a bit more advanced linux stuff but as far as you dont try to learn you wont get it .... i acctually use a 1024 x 600 is possible and i use it !
I Can give my x config to you here if you like to ! (When i am home
sorry for my roughness but i am not a linux pro just advanced PC user and i was able to do such stuff also !!
Greets

Appreciated!
If you could post your config when you have time I would be grateful (as would others!)

@Neutron83:
What version of the intel driver are you using? I'm using 2.4.1 (and newer) and I wasn't able to override the setting no matter what I did. But please share your config. I'd like to give it a chance.
Greeting,
Sven

please, can someone confirm me that ubuntu can do 1024x600 on htc shift?
i would like to buy one of them but i'm not sure about 1024x600 under linux.
thanks a lot

someone posted that xorg_conf can be modified in someway to get bigger resolution. no one have posted working config for this yet. If someone could post it, it would be great.

Shift's screen is 800x480 pixels (http://www.htc.com/europe/faqs.aspx?p_id=60&cat=0&id=45486.) Bundled software (~\htc\resolution.exe and ~\htc\ResolutioLauncher.exe) switches between native 800x480 and emulated 1024x600.
Any progress on a linux driver for the Marvell 8686 wifi card?

Hi @All,
maybe somewhere experts of you can build a script again for Ubuntu 9 users, the most of them I think can work with Linux, but the most are Windows users (like me) and are overstrained with modding aditional Hardware into Ubuntu ;-)

How's everyone going with Ubuntu on the Shift? Samstables?
I'm downloading and installing the current wubi to put ubuntu on with vista as a dual boot to see how much works out of the box and how much I can get working mucking around (low level linux user here )

hmm... my shift is a dustcover at the moment...

pls give me image iso ubuntu on a works drivers!!

[PRJ][AND][LNX] OPANDROID (The Wing-Linux Opal branch)

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Wing Linux​
This thread is a continuation to what happened in the LINUX BOOTS at OPAL! Thanks to linwizard project! thread. I thought it's about time a proper thread is made to get this project the attention it needs.
What is Wing Linux all about
Wing Linux aims to bring Linux and Google's Android operating systems to OMAP850-based devices.
Wait, did you say Linux AND Android?
Yep, you did read that right. If you're running Wing Linux, you are simultaneously running Ångström and Android on top of that. That means you get all of the cool Linux functionality with the intuitive interface and usability of Android.
For more information about Wing Linux please visit the official site. It'll save you from having to read through this whole thread
If I installed Wing Linux, will I lose WM? / Will this brick my device?
No. There's no flashing involved here. Still, it's best practice to have thing backed up before doing anything. I've heard of a few cases were people lost some files from there SD cards.
Great! How can I try this?
I'm glad you asked!
Installation is very easy and smooth, all you have to do is following these simple steps:
Navigate to the Wing Linux site.
On the navigation menu to the right of the main page, you'll find a "Download" link. Obviously, you're supposed to click it
Once the download completes, you'll end up with a zip file that contains a few cab files and 4 text files. Please do open these files using notepad for a quick look. They contain plenty of useful information.
After extracting that zip, and hopefully taking a look at the text files, you'll need to move two of the cab files to your device: rootfs and opal.
From your device, install the two cabs (navigate to them using your favourite file explorer then click them) and make sure to install both files to storage card.
Before proceeding any further, make sure that you still have at least 250MB of free space on your storage card. If you don't then you'll need to do some clean up before you can continue.
Also, make sure to close any open application, otherwise you'll lose any unsaved progress in any of them.
Open the brand new wing-linux short-cut in your start menu.
Hit run.
While Linux is booting up. You'll be asked to input a size for the image file used as storage for Wing Linux (consider it like virtual hard disk). Don't touch anything and just wait, default value (250MB) will be used after a couple of seconds.
Grab yourself a cup of coffee/tea/beer/... then sit back and relax. Installation will take a while.
When everything is over, you'll get a calibration screen. Try your best to get a good calibration on the first time as fixing it later takes some work.
Enjoy Android
Key-map for Android
As the Opal doesn't have that many keys, some changes had to be made:
D-Pad + Centre: works normally.
Green: Dialer.
Red: Default behaviour under Android is like this:
Short press: puts device in standby. This can be changed in the settings (which I recommend).
Long press: Display menu to turn off device, put device in airplane mode...
Volume Up: menu key (it's the key that unlocks the screen as well).
Volume Down: back/cancel.
Power button: It's working, but it doesn't do anything because it's functionality doesn't work in Android yet.
Okay, I'm done playing around and I want to go back to WM.
That's easy:
Click and hold the red button and you'll get a menu.
Select "Shutdown" and the phone will reboot.
Once the phone boots again, you'll be in WM.
I want to completely get rid of Wing Linux
Eh, it's your loss.
Un-install both cabs as you would do for any application.
Check if there's still a folder called "linux" in the root of your storage card.
If there's one, delete it.
What works and what does not work:
For details look at this page here. In short:
For the time being, these stuff work:
Making/receiving calls, although you won't be able to hear the other side during phone calls. But there's a small workaround for that:
When in windows mobile, start Wing Linux during a phone call, that way you'll have sound in Android during calls.
Sending/receiving SMS.
GPRS also works. If your carrier/service providers details are included already, it'll work out of the box. Otherwise you'll need to set up a new APN under settings.
For the time being, these stuff do not work:
Battery (will always report it's 100% full).
Bluetooth
WIFI
Camera
Sound (other than what you'll get with the workaround)
Vibration
LED notifications
Standby/Suspend mode.
Unlocking SIM (Android will accept the PIN code but it won't connect to network, you'll need to disable PIN from WM).
FAQ
Q: When I let the phone sit for a while it goes to a text screen that just rolls android_power_suspend messages?
Right now these message are normal, just hit any key or the screen to go back. The suspend portion of Android is being actively worked on so just hang tight!
Q: I installed and booted Wing Linux and when I attach it via USB to my Windows computer it asks me for a driver for an "Ethernet Gadget". Where can I get this?
Linux has this driver natively. For Windows, there's no driver right now, if you know where we can find one (that is free to distribute legally) please do share it with us.
Q: When I boot for the first time the installer hangs at partitioning 0%, is it not working?
Walk away from your phone, this part will take some time. It will only have to do this on initial install so have faith.
Q: Can I install this to my phone's internal memory?
Not presently. Although the cab file will install, you won't be able to boot from internal memory. Ensure you install to your storage card.
Q: Does this run emulated under Windows Mobile?
Not at all! Although it's started from inside Windows Mobile, HaRET completely replaces Windows with Linux in memory, so you actually are booting native Linux -- No emulation at all.
Q: I successfully entered my PIN and unlocked my SIM card through Android, but I can't get on the network. Why?
This is a known issue -- unlocking a SIM card works, but Android does not follow through with connecting to the network. The best solution to this for now is to remove the PIN from your SIM card.
Q: I opened an application but how to I get back to the main page or quit the program? Where is my back button?
Check the keymap posted above.
Q: When will X work on Opal?
In due time. The project is made of volunteer effort working in their spare time. If you'd like the development to speed up, feel free to give a hand!
Not every single one of the people working on this is a developer. Some, like me, are learning as they go. And none is able to dedicate all his time for this project.
Q: I messed up with the calibration. How can I re-calibrate the screen?
Go to storage card, then go to the folder called 'linux'. You'll find a file called default.txt
In that file, look for the line that says "set CMDLINE", add "reset_ts" to it (between the two quotations). Then boot normally.
Remember to remove that once you're satisfied with the calibration.
(If Microsoft Word asks you to save it in their format, always say no)
Q: I waited a lot but the device won't finish booting after installation. What should I do?
First of all, try resetting the phone and booting Wing Linux again. In most of the cases, this'll work. If that doesn't work, try deleting the "rootfs" file from "/Storage Card/linux". If you don't see that file, delete rootfs.img instead. Then boot back in and it should start installing from scratch.
If you're still having issues, remove everything (refer to the "I want to completely get rid of Wing Linux" section) and reinstall the two cabs.
Q: What version of Android is Wing Linux running?
Right now, it's running Cupcake (1.5). An upgrade is planned.
Q: What version of Ångström is Wing Linux running?
Latest as of time of posting.
Q: I'm trying to use the virtual terminal but the enter button on the virtual keyboard won't do anything. Is that normal?
It happens occasionally. Try pressing the d-pad in various directions then hit then enter button again.
Q: Can I SSH to the phone?
Yes you can
Code:
sudo ifconfig usb0 10.100.0.2 up
ssh [email protected]
The password is "wing".
Q: Is installing to a dedicated partition supported?
Yes it is, for more information check the 'INSTALL' file included in the zip, and that can also be found under /storage card/linux
Q: How can I set up a development environment to help with coding?
Take a look here.
Q: How can I get in contact with developers?
Through this thread, the project's forums and on the IRC channel at #wing-linux on Freenode.net. Please, do not use E-Mails, PMs, IMs...
Personal thanks from me to the following people for making this a reality:
darkstar62 for being the main man behind the whole project. And for going easy on me despite my noobness
The people at Linwizard for creating the base kernel and helping throughout development.
kshaurya for helping me to get the Opal branch started
raditzgds, life02 and zenned for helping to get the touchscreen working on Opal.
HTC for this nice device.
Google for Android.
The people behind Ångström for the base system.
I hope I didn't forget anyone...

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Release Informations
Released Versions:
0.1 released on 2009-02-16
0.2 released on 2009-05-26
0.3pre3 released on 2009-06-14
0.3 released on 2009-06-16
0.4pre1 released on 2009-07-04
0.4pre2 released on 2009-07-25
0.4pre3 released on 2009-08-12
0.4pre4 released on 2009-08-12
0.4 released on 2009-11-09
0.4.1 released on 2009-11-19
0.4.2 released on 2009-11-21
Planned Releases:
Nothing is currently set in stone. Next release can be either 0.4.3 or 0.5.
Things to look forward for in the next release.
Hopefully: Sound and there might be some changes concerning Android.
Latest Change Log:
Will be updated on next release.

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How to help with testing and development on Opal:
The people behind Linwizard and Wing-Linux are in need of the results of running this test:
ali1234 said:
Hi,
Thanks to everyone who came to our sprint and tested things. We got a
basic kernel booting on several platforms.
After looking at the results I started to look at the LCD detection
code. I would like to ask everyone to run this test and send me the
results.
I need testers with any omap7xx phone. You only need to run a haret
script and mail me the output, no kernel boot in necessary. The test
scripts are here:
http://al.robotfuzz.com/~al/htc/lcd1.zip
You need a modified version of haret which is included. Unpack the zip
to the phone's internal memory and run haret. Press the "boot" button
like normal. It won't boot linux, it will run the tests instead. Your
screen will flicker during the test, it is normal. It will generate
lcdlog.txt. Mail that file to me or the list, along with any
information you have about your phone. Especially if you have an
after-market LCD, or you know what model of LCD you have for another
reason.
The test works by rapidly switching between LCD mode and GPIO mode on
the LCD controller pins, to check which pins are tied high, low, or
are floating. It does this 30 or so times. Any pin that changes value
is deemed floating. The others are tied high or low (1 or 0). Ignoring
floating pins (zero them) and you get a code which identifies the
panel type of the phone.
More about the LCD detection, including device database and log
processor: https://sourceforge.net/apps/trac/linwizard/wiki/LCDDetect
Thanks
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While the quote tells you to email the results to ali1234, it would be best if you PM them to me and I'll handle passing them forwards.

Very nice thread with all the info needed
musikmonk that rom is ready contact me today eve or tom i will send u... then u can do testing works.

good discription brother........
i have tried it out already....but sound wifi etc not working.....hopefully the developers will solve the problems in next build....

indresh88 said:
good discription brother........
i have tried it out already....but sound wifi etc not working.....hopefully the developers will solve the problems in next build....
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I guess you dont know that musikmonk himself is one of the developer of android for omap 850 devices

i downloaded it from the web to my mobile...took me a couple of hours but was worth it.
installation was a breeze.
wifi is not a necessary for me...so i am okay with it...
there are some probs tho...like the battery percentage...it is stuck at 100%. even after fiddling with it, it remained the same.
i rebooted to wm to find that battery was about 45%. this issue is critical...i feel. what about you guys??
btw...my sincere thanks to all who toiled so hard...without getting paid...to port this amazing os.
hats off to you guys...and do keep up the good work.

i'm testing android from some week
i test version 0.4.2 and the 0.4.3 pre4
bluetooth don't work... when I turn on the bt the scrren increase brightnees...
for the audio problems if you start winglinux during a call audio works
now i want try your kernel

jagan2 said:
I guess you dont know that musikmonk himself is one of the developer of android for omap 850 devices
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Thanks But I'm still faaaaaar from being a developer. I'm just learning.
freelancer81 said:
there are some probs tho...like the battery percentage...it is stuck at 100%. even after fiddling with it, it remained the same.
i rebooted to wm to find that battery was about 45%. this issue is critical...i feel.
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Ah, I forgot to mention that . I added it to the not working section now.
Right now, wing-linux is using a fake battery driver that always reports battery as 100% full. There's still no working driver and I'm afraid that it might be a long time till there is one.
gp.triple said:
i'm testing android from some week
i test version 0.4.2 and the 0.4.3 pre4
bluetooth don't work... when I turn on the bt the scrren increase brightnees...
for the audio problems if you start winglinux during a call audio works
now i want try your kernel
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Please do try that kernel and tell me how it goes for you.

nice work MusikMonk, i m so happy to see development for android on our phones
Bluetooth works on mine, but not all the time(once in 10 it doesn't)
Thank you so much for sharing your work
Edit: Sometimes,network problems occur after changing kernel

i try your new kernel
now when i start bluethoot its start
but don't discovery my sonyericsson w950i
and the s.e. don't find the opal
but the opal find other device...
soon as possible i try to connect other device and give you some feedback
i hope that you can understand my bad english
one question...
it is possible tu build the kernel 2.6.30 or successive?
its contains more driver

mrushabh said:
nice work MusikMonk, i m so happy to see development for android on our phones
Bluetooth works on mine, but not all the time(once in 10 it doesn't)
Thank you so much for sharing your work
Edit: Sometimes,network problems occur after changing kernel
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Can you please tell me what you tried for bluetooth? I could use some details.
And about network problems, that's normal. It randomly happens with wing-linux, it isn't something specific to that kernel.
Most of the times switching to aeroplane mode and back works. Sometimes you'll have to reboot.
gp.triple said:
i try your new kernel
now when i start bluethoot its start
but don't discovery my sonyericsson w950i
and the s.e. don't find the opal
but the opal find other device...
soon as possible i try to connect other device and give you some feedback
i hope that you can understand my bad english
one question...
it is possible tu build the kernel 2.6.30 or successive?
its contains more driver
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Does it always find that other device or does it only find it sometimes?
About using a new kernel, there are some problems with that. darkstar62 is working on moving upstream to latest kernel and he submitted some patches to the linux-omap tree to get his device (Herald/Wing) supported some were accepted, others are pending.
I tried these patches on Opal but memory card and usb didn't work. I'm waiting till the patches are complete to try again because, right now, I don't know how to fix them myself. I had a couple of ideas that I tried, but none worked.
Oh, and your English is okay. I can understand you fine.

MusikMonk said:
Does it always find that other device or does it only find it sometimes?
i had few time to try this morning
one time bt start and find some device
one time bt don't start
and one time bt start but don't find any device
as soon as possible i'll do other test
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im glad the network problem is not related to the kernel..
as for the bluetooth, it can find my other phone but somehow cant connect with it, also when set to discoverable also no other device finds it

Thank you all I really appreciate your help with testing.
If you guys have the time, can you also give this kernel a test:
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1944361/zImage-09-02-10
Edit:
Oh, and can you please give me details such as:
What was the bluetooth state in WM (off/on/hidden/discoverable)?
If you're using WM6.5.x, does bluetooth work normally on the rom you're using? (There seems to be many customized roms with bluetooth problems)
When you searched from Android, if some devices are found, do the name appears or only the address?
Stuff like that...

nice ...work
nice work thank u .
i have test the OS but there are some problem , that i cant make a call and
i cant but it on sleep mode and some time Bluetooth does'nt work .
but until now it's great to see the android work on our mobiles .
.

MusikMonk said:
Thank you all I really appreciate your help with testing.
If you guys have the time, can you also give this kernel a test:
Edit:
Oh, and can you please give me details such as:
What was the bluetooth state in WM (off/on/hidden/discoverable)?
If you're using WM6.5.x, does bluetooth work normally on the rom you're using? (There seems to be many customized roms with bluetooth problems)
When you searched from Android, if some devices are found, do the name appears or only the address?
Stuff like that...
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i did other test
at first i use the original wm6.1
condition of test
wm bt on/discoverable ---> android don't start bt
wm bt of ---> bt start in android, only one time find other device but appears only the adress, the other device don't find the opaldroid
if i can this evening try the new kernel

Results with the new kernel
Rom used:Official HTC WWE Rom
Bluetooth state in windows mobile:Off
Bluetooth activates and can be set to discoverable but no device can find phone and phone cant find any device
VERY RARELY IN THIS STATE IT CAN FIND MY MAGIC MOUSE
Bluetooth state in windows mobile:On
Same as the one before but no rare luck here..(Bluetooth activates and can be set to discoverable but no device can find phone and phone cant find any device)

hi;
Please take a screen shot from your device and put them there!
thanks.

i did some test whit the new kernel
win 6.1 standard rom
bt off in wm---> sometimes find other device showing the adress but other device cant find opal
bt on in wm--->didn't find other device and other device cant find opal

[Q] Any way to install Inkseine in Windows 8?

I have the Thinkpad X61 tablet. I was running Windows 7 with it. Awesome experience. Just upgraded to Windows 8 (chose to keep all my files, programs, and settings), and now Inkseine does not work. When I try to start it, I get an error pop-up (Inkseine has stopped working). I tried re-installing, still no luck even with .Net 3.5 enabled (as required by the software). So how come this program works in W7 but not W8? All my other stylus programs (OneNote, Windows Journal) are working though. Is MS just banishing this awesome program? I can't find an equivalent replacement.

Try running the app in Compatibility Mode. Right-click either the EXE or the shortcut (in Start or taskbar or desktop or anywhere), select Properties, and go to Compatibility. Enable the Compatibility Mode option for either Win7 or before (if the app say it works on XP, you might try that, for example). Then try running it again.
Also, do some searching online; other people may have had the same or similar problem and found a way around it, or the developer might even have a patch for it. Win8 is supposed to be fully binary compatible with Win7 programs, but these things are never perfect.
It would help if you could get the error message, exception info, or stack trace. However, unless you know how to use a Windows debugger, hat probably won't happen.

GoodDayToDie said:
Try running the app in Compatibility Mode. Right-click either the EXE or the shortcut (in Start or taskbar or desktop or anywhere), select Properties, and go to Compatibility. Enable the Compatibility Mode option for either Win7 or before (if the app say it works on XP, you might try that, for example). Then try running it again.
Also, do some searching online; other people may have had the same or similar problem and found a way around it, or the developer might even have a patch for it. Win8 is supposed to be fully binary compatible with Win7 programs, but these things are never perfect.
It would help if you could get the error message, exception info, or stack trace. However, unless you know how to use a Windows debugger, hat probably won't happen.
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Thanks for the advice. Unfortunately, no compatibility mode is able to make the program run. I used to have Visual Studio 2010 with all the debugging software but since I am not really a programmer I got rid of it. So sadly, I can't figure out what's wrong. I managed to get to the event logger but there was nothing there about inkseine.
I sent a message to the Inkseine team at Microsoft and got a response saying that the program is working on their end. So maybe I just got a corrupted upgrade from Win7 to Win8? My computer runs like butter though, so I am not eager to change anything right now. I am slowly learning to do my scribbling with Journal, but the experience will definitely never be the same (except I am liking the small memory usage of Journal. Inkseine uses A LOT of memory and creates huge files too)