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SecurIt 1.1: Sim/IMSI checking opensource security for us all

I'm been working on this for a little bit now since I found all the existing apps don't work well in WM6 or don't work well in a custom rom. This is a open source program (as all of mine are) and I welcome help/donations/and comments. Bug reports will be helpful in this first release as I certainly consider this a alpha release at the moment.
What it does:
once setup at every boot it compares your IMSI number with the one stored, if it's a match it plays a little sound and that's it. If it's not a match, it locks the device and displays your email and a request to please get it back to you. It also send you the "new sim's" imsi and phone number via a SMS.
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SecurIt 1.1 (BETA) by Shadowmite
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TODO: Build in SMS rule filtering thus adding remote control
Lock out activesync connections?
Protect the datafile from being deleted, or keep a backup in registry.
NOTE: THIS DOES NOT WORK WITH CDMA PHONES!
Version 1 (BETA) Instructions:
This security applicatioon can run loaded normally via a cab file to your device, or via being cooked into a rom. It will require your phone able to run unsigned code (most roms at this site are fine in this regard). Furthermore it does require the .NET Framework so it's really for WM6 devices, WM5 will be more tricky and is left up to the user to figure out how to make it all work.
When first run the program resides in \windows and must run from there. If you ran the cab installer it will have created a shortcut for you into the Programs folder.
The application comes up with a form showing you the current device imei, imsi, and phone number. You need to enter a password (needed to disable security programmatically or change SIM info), a email you can be reached at my a "finder" of your phone, and a SMS phone number you'd like alert messages sent to. Once done click set. Finally, click Enable security.
The application then sets itself up to autorun upon boot and if the SIM matches, it plays a little sound file to let you know everything is fine. If the sim is found to have changed, it will lock down the device until a password is entered. Meanwhile it shows your contact email and has sent the alert sms to you with the new imsi and phone number.
If you enter the proper password the program will take you to the settings screen where you can reenter the password and make changes to the settings and resave them. Simply clicking enable security without making changes will keep the settings as they are.
Clicking disable security will remove the autorun entries and remove the data file the programs keeps at \windows\SecurIt.dat.
The data file keeps 5 lines, MD5 hashes of your imei, imsi, password, and also your email and sms phone number as plain text. Thus stealing this file does not enable retrieving the password or easy changing of the imsi. Deleting this file however would remove security. Furthermore activesync will still link to a locked device. Knowledgable people about these devices could therefore defeat this security, however it's goal is to keep the casual theif / finder out of the phone.
This program is a work in progress and I welcome help with modifications to it as well as bug fixes. Source can be found at:
svn://www.shadowmite.com/shadowmite/SecurIt
To cook this into a rom, you need 3 files. 2 of them need to be generated when you first install it like normal and set it up. Copy the SecurIt.dat from \windows and the SecurIt.lnk from \windows\start up to your rom as well as the SecurIt.exe file. It's that simple. Enjoy!
History:
1.1: Fixed all kinds of bugs causing security to crash with various sims
1.0: Initial release
If you like my work and would like to help insure I continue to have time for this, please consider a donation to: foglemATshadowmiteDOTcom

Shadowmite, thnx for starting an "opensource" project for this. I havent tried it yet, will try once I reach home.. But I had a cpl of suggestions\questions:
1. Why do u keep email and sms phone no in plain text instead of encrypting them as well?
2. Instead of storing config in a file, store the config in registry which lessens the chances of someone finding out about the prog and deleting the file to disable security.

nice work as usual...

shantzg001 said:
Shadowmite, thnx for starting an "opensource" project for this. I havent tried it yet, will try once I reach home.. But I had a cpl of suggestions\questions:
1. Why do u keep email and sms phone no in plain text instead of encrypting them as well?
2. Instead of storing config in a file, store the config in registry which lessens the chances of someone finding out about the prog and deleting the file to disable security.
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number 2 is in the TODO list...

#1) we could encrypt them as long as it's not a one-way hash like the first 3 lines, however those are the bits of data we don't mind the theif/finder seeing afterall as they are the means to get the phone back to its rightful owner. I suppose we could hide them but the phone number will be on his next bill for sending it a SMS and the email is displayed on the locked screen.
And as walshy said, #2 is certainly on the todo, but locking our activesync connections is a bigger concern and I believe completely doable.

#1) we could encrypt them as long as it's not a one-way hash like the first 3 lines, however those are the bits of data we don't mind the theif/finder seeing afterall as they are the means to get the phone back to its rightful owner. I suppose we could hide them but the phone number will be on his next bill for sending it a SMS and the email is displayed on the locked screen.
And as walshy said, #2 is certainly on the todo, but locking our activesync connections is a bigger concern and I believe completely doable.
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ok, and sorry abt the #2, I missed the TODO part..
Keep up the good work..I myself was thinking abt making smthing similar but now I think I'll drop my idea to make a different one, as this seems to be a better idea (opensource is always better )..
I hope I can make some contribution to the code if possible..

shantzg001 said:
ok, and sorry abt the #2, I missed the TODO part..
Keep up the good work..I myself was thinking abt making smthing similar but now I think I'll drop my idea to make a different one, as this seems to be a better idea (opensource is always better )..
I hope I can make some contribution to the code if possible..
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What advantages does this give over "Mobile Justice"..another similar util...my rom has Mobile Justice cooked with it which makes it hard to remove.

famewolf said:
What advantages does this give over "Mobile Justice"..another similar util...my rom has Mobile Justice cooked with it which makes it hard to remove.
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If you like that software and have it working properly use it. Maybe you'd like to post in every rom thread asking why not use some other rom while you're at it?

Shadowmite said:
If you like that software and have it working properly use it. Maybe you'd like to post in every rom thread asking why not use some other rom while you're at it?
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I'm not using Mobile Justice which is WHY I asked what advantages YOURS had over theres for COMPARISON. If it had additional features I was going to recommend it for addition into XM6R3 (the next release of the current rom), but with an attitude like yours I won't bother with further review.

famewolf said:
I'm not using Mobile Justice which is WHY I asked what advantages YOURS had over theres for COMPARISON. If it had additional features I was going to recommend it for addition into XM6R3 (the next release of the current rom), but with an attitude like yours I won't bother with further review.
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you dont bother with a review but bother with a slagging ... take your "fame" somewhere else...

Ok, for starters mine isn't based on assuming every device has a GPS built in (while technically being a Trinity owner I should go that route). I instead base mine on nicely locking down the interface so far with a polite message to get the device back to the owner. Furthermore mine is trivial to build into a cooked rom which was my main reason to write it. I tried every security app out there over the last weekend without any of them working "properly" and figured the best way to get one is to write one. In addition mine is open source, mobilejustice is not.
Now then, you said you're not using it... But the last post said you had it cooked in? WTF? Need some help deciding what you use and don't use?
my rom has Mobile Justice cooked with it which makes it hard to remove.
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I'm not using Mobile Justice which is WHY I asked what advantages YOURS had over theres for COMPARISON.
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Shadowmite said:
Now then, you said you're not using it... But the last post said you had it cooked in? WTF? Need some help deciding what you use and don't use?
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1) The rom I currently have installed comes with Mobile Justice preinstalled.
2) I have not configured and am not currently using Mobile Justice
3) The author is currently taking suggestions for software to include in the next revision of their rom.
What part of any of those statements are you having difficulty comprehending?
Perhaps you and the gentleman from Melbourne should both grow up and quit reading an insult where one was not intended.

Well than back on track... Give it a try and see what you think. I really want feedback from folks outside the USA as I believe it will not properly catch your phone number of the "thief's sim" however if the sms works it should still get the phone number to you obviously.
The GPS coord. request feature is a nice one and will have to go on the todo list.

well, well, fights apart, what drew me to this app over the other apps was the opensource nature as mentioned by Shadowmite because I, like shadowmite, was not happy with the other apps doing things properly or just because I wanted somethings to be done differently..
@shadowmite:
1. I have a few ideas of getting "coordinates" and sending to the original owner even on non-GPS devices ..Maybe we can discuss some things later on once the basic structure of the app is ok.
2. Couldn't find the source code of the app on ur site..(May be am just one dim-witted dim-sighted git ) Please point me to it..

You'll need svn to get it, windows users: http://superb-west.dl.sourceforge.n...vn/TortoiseSVN-1.4.4.9706-win32-svn-1.4.4.msi
svn://www.shadowmite.com/shadowmite is my master repository for all projects.

cool, I do have TortoiseSVN installed at home..Will check it when I go back..

Will it sustain a hard re-set ? Dont think so.

@shailesh, for sustaining hard resets, it has to be cooked into the rom, pointed out by shadow on post 1..
I don't know if something else can be done for this (writing into ext rom is one option but that is not possible for most devices now)

Sounds like a great piece of software. And open source is a great idea too.
I did tried several others like this one (Eye on the thef, Ultimately Theft Alert ...) some features were still missing :
First an autoconfig method :
As already said, whatever your storage methode is (file or registry), you 'll everytime lose the configuration when a hard-reset is done on the device. The only one possibility i can imagine is to store your "installer" program on extended rom with the ability to add an external config (encrypted) file as a parameter.
Installation will be handled by the autoconfig process, using this external file. Config will probably needs to be stored on extended rom too. It's not peace of cake to create an extended rom, but easier that cook a rom.
This feature won't be very helpfull if there is no way to generate a config file automaticaly base on settings done by user : kind of export process.
On standart start/soft-reset, your program will run as it does actually, but when a hard-reset, is proceed, programm will reinstall unattented and will still be running after boot... No way to easily remove it. Bad effect is that it will also be difficult to update programm/config.
Secondly, i'd like to have the a way to "format"(or encrypt) a memory card remotely.
Do you thinks those could be part of your TODO list ?
Will try it on few next days and i'm ready to help you translating it in french

hi shantzg001,
thanks for replying,
My mistake, did not read the whole text.

idiot mogul user desperately needs your help !!!!!

hello everyone ! I just got my Mogul about 2 days ago and im a freakin mess on trying to figure out how to use it. here are things i need your help with....
#1 how do i transfer my contacts onto my PC? I installed the program it came with but i cant figure out how to copy my contacts to my PC.
#2 I tried to upgrade my rom(i dont even know what rom is,lol) and before i updated the rom it read ROM VERSION 2.09.651.3 AND THE ROM DATE WAS 6/14/07. after the update was complete it still read the same thing !! And the mogul appeared to be slower, screens wouldnt open fast or shut down fast etc etc. (which rom should I use??)
#3 THE CUBE, I was checking out the cube for my mogul but i wasnt sure what the benifet was of useing this program...its looks a lot for user friendly and cooler then what the mogul has now....(how do I install the cube into my Mogul?)
#4 lastly, when my phone shuts off i have to push the power button to wake it up everytime...is there any way i can just touch the screen or push a face button to turn it back on?
any help would be awsome
stacy

anyone????????

I'd suggest you visit ppcgeeks.com titan forum. Many more titan users over there and there are several custom roms available.
As far as answering your questions....
1. Not sure, i don't use activesycn for anything other than transferring programs to by phone to install.
2. I've posted a few custom roms on the ppcgeeks ftp and have had numerous compliments. My most current rom is UTCG.2.2.2 and I think you'll be pleasantly surprised with it. I don't add in all the extra "crap" some one people do. I use a stable base rom and update some of the features as well as tweak it for performance. My most current ROM runs with ~28mb free ram and is very quick. EDIT: I will post link here shortly.
I'm assuming that you're new to the whole "flashing" thing so I'm uploading a complete file with the rom and flashing software in it right now. I'll update this thread with the direct link to download once it's done.
3. The real cube is not functional on the mogul. There are many hybrid cubes that other members have made. Some are Adobe Flash-Based programs and others are stand-alone programs. I like the idea of the Cube when i got my mogul just like you. But, after messing with it so much and realizing the amount of resources it uses I personally don't think it's worth it. It's just another "gimmick" to compete with the iPhone.
4. I'm not sure why you would want it to "wake-up" by tapping the screen but if this is a necessity than here's how to do it.
Tap "Start" on your mogul.
Tap "Settings"
Tap "System" Tab on the bottom
Tap the "Power" icon
Tap the "Advanced" Tab on the bottom
uncheck the box "On Battery Power: Turn off device if not used for ____"
That will keep the mogul from turning off. BUT, it will also kill your battery really quickly. Personally, i slide by mogul in and out of my pocket all day that it would be a problem if i had it activated by the screen.

You can get my newest rom here:
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Unzip and run the RomUpdateUtility.exe

utexascg said:
You can get my newest rom here:
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Unzip and run the RomUpdateUtility.exe
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I would highly recommend reading the Flashing Basic Guide over at PPCgeeks http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=9927 before attempting any of this.
There are a selection of ROMs available for different needs/tastes, and you'll also need to unlock your phone first (its all in the guide).
But, all this is only necessary if you'd like a customized ROM instead of the stock Sprint release. Most people feel that the custom ROMs perform better, but to be honest, if you don't know what a ROM is or why you want it custom, I'd just leave things as they are. As long as everything works for you, just leave well enough alone.
Now as far as your questions:
1) This is a basic PPC question and not Mogul specific. You need 2 programs installed to do this: Outlook to view/access/edit your personal information (comes on the disc) and Activesync to talk to your device and actually make sure to keep all info in sync (also comes on disc).
Each program will work without the other, but it won't sync your info unless both of them are installed and the device is plugged in.
2) The Sprint releases have bugs. There was an updated ROM (2.16) that caused more problems than it fixed, so they pulled it. Now we're back to 2.09, so that's why nothing changed. There are custom roms that combine the best "fixed bits" of all the releases so far, but don't do these unless you feel comfortable messing with it for now.
3) Cube is a fancy interface designed for the HTC Touch phone. Its supposed to make easy shortcuts for one-fingered use, and has some nifty scrolling 3D effect that they call a "cube" (even tho it has only 3 sides. I guess calling it the "extruded triangle" wouldn't have gone over as well). But, it only works on the touch, so some folks have tried to mimick it by writing their own application that looks just like it. Most of them don't work, or are too slow to be useable, only the real one on the actual device called the "touch" seems to be any good. Its still cute to show off. Not all that functional on the mogul, and I've tried many versions.
4) YES! There's a setting somewhere to wake up on power key only, or for any keypress. The screen touch thing would set it off WAAAY too easily and kill your battery as utexas said. I feel the same way about all the buttons since there are so many that accidentally get pressed when taking it and out of holsters. However, the options is there if you want it.
Good luck!

Your awsome !! could i ask you one more thing? when i want to make a phone call and i go to my contacts list all of my friends names are backwards...meaning that their last name is showin first and this is annoying because i not showing up as it used to in my old filp phone...should i download some sort of firmware to change my contact ist set up??
Dishe said:
I would highly recommend reading the Flashing Basic Guide over at PPCgeeks http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=9927 before attempting any of this.
There are a selection of ROMs available for different needs/tastes, and you'll also need to unlock your phone first (its all in the guide).
But, all this is only necessary if you'd like a customized ROM instead of the stock Sprint release. Most people feel that the custom ROMs perform better, but to be honest, if you don't know what a ROM is or why you want it custom, I'd just leave things as they are. As long as everything works for you, just leave well enough alone.
Now as far as your questions:
1) This is a basic PPC question and not Mogul specific. You need 2 programs installed to do this: Outlook to view/access/edit your personal information (comes on the disc) and Activesync to talk to your device and actually make sure to keep all info in sync (also comes on disc).
Each program will work without the other, but it won't sync your info unless both of them are installed and the device is plugged in.
2) The Sprint releases have bugs. There was an updated ROM (2.16) that caused more problems than it fixed, so they pulled it. Now we're back to 2.09, so that's why nothing changed. There are custom roms that combine the best "fixed bits" of all the releases so far, but don't do these unless you feel comfortable messing with it for now.
3) Cube is a fancy interface designed for the HTC Touch phone. Its supposed to make easy shortcuts for one-fingered use, and has some nifty scrolling 3D effect that they call a "cube" (even tho it has only 3 sides. I guess calling it the "extruded triangle" wouldn't have gone over as well). But, it only works on the touch, so some folks have tried to mimick it by writing their own application that looks just like it. Most of them don't work, or are too slow to be useable, only the real one on the actual device called the "touch" seems to be any good. Its still cute to show off. Not all that functional on the mogul, and I've tried many versions.
4) YES! There's a setting somewhere to wake up on power key only, or for any keypress. The screen touch thing would set it off WAAAY too easily and kill your battery as utexas said. I feel the same way about all the buttons since there are so many that accidentally get pressed when taking it and out of holsters. However, the options is there if you want it.
Good luck!
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Contacts can only be listed by Name or Company. You can however edit the contact to change the way the contact is filed in the edit screen there is a field labeled "File as:" it's here that you can change the way the name is displayed in the contact list.

Can't boot Linux on Magician

Hi all,
I have a Qtek s100 reported to be the same as the magician
I tried booting Linux angstrom using Haret following the instructions from the wiki.
I also tried openmoko and QTOPIA following instructions there : http://linuxtogo.org/~htcpxa/htcmagician/
All tries ended the same way : Haret starts, displays a few lines, says "jumping to kernel", the screen becomes white, and nothing else happens. After a while , the screen is not illuminated anymore, and touching the touchscreen doesn't light it up, whereas the keys do.
I tried changing the runlevel, changing the root= to see if it was due to a bad support of the card reader, nothing changed.
Has anyone already had this problem and solved it ?
Thanks a lot,
Thomas

Hi
I have the same problem.
Try image from http://linuxtogo.org/~ph5/tmp/ - it's work great for me .
You can also boot other images like from http://excogitation.de/lastik/ which are the newest but you have to extract kernel and modules from http://linuxtogo.org/~ph5/tmp/Angst...-2008.1-test-20080216-magician.rootfs.tar.bz2 image and replace them in the image You want to use. Do not forget to copy also http://linuxtogo.org/~ph5/tmp/zImage-2.6.21-hh20-r13-magician.bin to use with haret.
Greets
PS
Sorry for my english

Thanks, I found a working kernel...
GPE works well, but it's not really easy without a stylus... But I like gomunicator, and I can recompile it with my smscenter...
I tried OM 2007.12, but "read sms" crashes, and upgrade crashes my install
OM 2008 doesn't start X...
Which distro did you find most functional ?
Thomas

i'm testing now Angstrom-x11-gpe from http://excogitation.de/lastik/ ( fast but it don't have apps for dialing and sms ). I tried image with opie (but it didn't worked for me) and with Angstrom-openmoko from http://www.linuxtogo.org/~ph5/tmp/ which is for me to slow to use (high memory usage) but the most functional.
Are you able to update packages?? I have some problems with this - i can connect to Magician over ssh, but i can't connect from it to the internet - coul you explain how are you connecting your magician to the computer?? are you using linux box?? what commands are you using.
Thanks

help with my magician ....the touchscreen doesn't work with angstromn x11 gpe... solution?? sorry for my bad english

newbie on PDA, seasoned on Liux
Hi,
I come from a lot of Linux background (since 2003)...
As the matter of fact I'm all the time on Linux, expect when I play a game from time to time (COD,MOH...)
So,
I did join this forum (great one!) and read posts a bit...
Found the OM and OPIE2 (QTOPIA?) images and only got booting with the MO2008 one
So i tweaked the SD ext2 partition a bit:
If (when) i used the 2.6.21 hh20 kernel it booted both the QT and the GTK based images
(one replaces the zImage in both the VFAT partition and in the /boot folder IMO?)
But...
The OPIE2 (Qtopia?) is a by far more pleasant experience:
1. back is always obvious
2. Input method is nice
3. the GUI is more polished
4. more themes per default
A. I missed a terminal
B. I missed a GUI for ipkg
C. I missed hardware support (hal,alsa,sound,sgm,gprs)
D. I missed bluetooth (stack?)
E. I missed networking (USB?)
F. no standard GNU suite: pico,mc,bpe
Then the OpenMoko didn't brill either:
1. It apparently had SGM support
2. It had decent input options
3. It worked acceptably well and almost fast
4. Terminal app (a whole lot more LINUX)
The cons:
A. It wasn't always clear where one is
B. It wasn't always clear where the 'bailout' button is
C. the hardware keys seemed not to work
D. far less apps onboard the image
E. Didn't stay long enough to see it all (must try again)...
F. no standard GNU suite: pico,mc,bpe
so, can we make one decent one?
I try to help?

cest73 said:
Hi,
I come from a lot of Linux background (since 2003)...
As the matter of fact I'm all the time on Linux, expect when I play a game from time to time (COD,MOH...)
So,
I did join this forum (great one!) and read posts a bit...
Found the OM and OPIE2 (QTOPIA?) images and only got booting with the MO2008 one
So i tweaked the SD ext2 partition a bit:
If (when) i used the 2.6.21 hh20 kernel it booted both the QT and the GTK based images
(one replaces the zImage in both the VFAT partition and in the /boot folder IMO?)
But...
The OPIE2 (Qtopia?) is a by far more pleasant experience:
1. back is always obvious
2. Input method is nice
3. the GUI is more polished
4. more themes per default
A. I missed a terminal
B. I missed a GUI for ipkg
C. I missed hardware support (hal,alsa,sound,sgm,gprs)
D. I missed bluetooth (stack?)
E. I missed networking (USB?)
F. no standard GNU suite: pico,mc,bpe
Then the OpenMoko didn't brill either:
1. It apparently had SGM support
2. It had decent input options
3. It worked acceptably well and almost fast
4. Terminal app (a whole lot more LINUX)
The cons:
A. It wasn't always clear where one is
B. It wasn't always clear where the 'bailout' button is
C. the hardware keys seemed not to work
D. far less apps onboard the image
E. Didn't stay long enough to see it all (must try again)...
F. no standard GNU suite: pico,mc,bpe
so, can we make one decent one?
I try to help?
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I just stumbled upon your post by accident - and it seems there isn't much interest in Magician in general
anymore - so in short there won't be full linux support for Magician (unless pH5 - or someone else (you?) finishes it).
Well actually the hardware is almost 100% supported (apart from IrDA, sound recording and camera)
(see here - but afaik the userspace stuff is missing so it doesn't work with the mentioned images.
Usbnet is working (to get you started look here or here)
If know/are interested to expedite userspace you probably don't need any help setting up a build environmend
(but you can always ask me).
The info on the wiki could also be useful.
The Camera is an OV9650 that's also used in
Motorola A780 (driver available for an earlier kernel)
HTC Alpine, HTC Sable, HTC Universal, HTC Wizard
Also I will reassemble a Magician I have lying around in parts if you need a tester
(or provide a nice image with good support).
Don't know if you had that OM image ... but there is one with Phone working.
(if you update it to the current state (well some months ago) through ipkg
the phone breaks (of course - new dialer), but sound (alsa) sarts working).

excogitation said:
Also I will reassemble a Magician I have lying around in parts if you need a tester
(or provide a nice image with good support).
Don't know if you had that OM image ... but there is one with Phone working.
(if you update it to the current state (well some months ago) through ipkg
the phone breaks (of course - new dialer), but sound (alsa) sarts working).
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If you're interested take a look here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=408069
That's the main thread about this subject.

The Camera is an OV9650 that's also used in
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Camera is OV9640. Also used in FS720.
It seems Magician revisions have two different cameras, but I don't know differences...

Since I have the parts lying around I just took a look and it's definitely an OV9650 - and I'm fairly certain there aren't 2 different cameras - if you definitely have an ov9640 - then there are 2 different ones.
There are 2 different LCD's though - but that has already been taken care of by pH5 (that's why on some Magicians the hh17 and earlier kernels won't boot - again if I remember correctly).
I just took a look and found some stuff related ... I'll attach it here so maybe it can save you some time. (notes in the files may be German)
Since xda-devs doesn't want my file ... I put it here: ov9650 stuff
Also check here especially the driver and m560x ov9650.

wow amazing!
If we can get enough ppl working, an Android port could be a viable project in the future.
If you need a tester, I once managed to boot linux in the past, and i have a spare SD card for testings.
Thank you guys!

iRiKi said:
wow amazing!
If we can get enough ppl working, an Android port could be a viable project in the future.
If you need a tester, I once managed to boot linux in the past, and i have a spare SD card for testings.
Thank you guys!
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Well I highly doubt that's going to happen any time soon - but Android "runs" on Apache so that should get someone interested started.

iRiKi said:
wow amazing!
If we can get enough ppl working, an Android port could be a viable project in the future.
If you need a tester, I once managed to boot linux in the past, and i have a spare SD card for testings.
Thank you guys!
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linux yes
android ?????
after some emails with people involve with linux there seems to be issues in porting the android kernel
if you wanna help with the linux port head there
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=408069&page=7

Just a bump to a thread
maybe this should be make sticky, for who knows when the last Magician with Linux user is going to break down?
They might want to slump together a linux build mean while?

Ubuntu on Gen8

Hello everybody!
I have been playing with the ARM port of Ubuntu and my Archos 70 for a few days now and I got it to boot and login on a root account.
Not a lot of things work. The touchscreen, sound, hardware buttons and 3d don't work (I'm guessing this since Unity doesn't work).
You don't imagine the pain that I had to suffer to get here without input of any kind.
Everything else seems to work fine, slow but fine (X, gnome, etc).
Things that I haven't tried yet are the webcam, the HDMI, the SD reader and the USB (which would help me a lot to get things working faster)
I'll update my post with pics and a link to download the image when it's done uploading.
For those who have been longer on the Archos community or have some experience I would ask you to give me some advice to get the touchscreen working.
Update :(12/03/2011)
Sroll down for a link and instructions on how to install it (The touchscreen works in this new image)

afaik touchscreen is connected by usb internally. check dmesg of android and figure out which driver you need and build/download/whatever it to ubuntu

Thanks! That's actually a great idea. I never thought about that

I did what you told me and it revealed that the screen is a Unitec USB Touch (Win7) with a 227d:0709 ID. I haven't found any information online except for this which isn't that informative either: lii-enac.fr/en/architecture/linux-input/multitouch-devices .html

is it not an option to re-build(and probably modify) the driver based on the gen8 source? looks to me that it is in the source package(gen8gpl-froyo/linux/drivers/input/touchscreen).

@veenstrac of course, as long as there is no ARM assembler code included it shouldn't be that hard to port it to an ubuntu kernel. except for the bit that ubuntu uses a newer kernel (2.6.3x) than archos (2.6.29). maybe some APIs need to be modified to get it compiled and working

I finally got the touchscreen working!
I didn't need to compile any drivers or anything. Just by changing the evdev configuration worked!
The problem now is that I can't "click" the mouse properly (when I do it it stays "pressed" forever) and also that X crashes after a while...

Alexroc94 said:
I finally got the touchscreen working!
I didn't need to compile any drivers or anything. Just by changing the evdev configuration worked!
The problem now is that I can't "click" the mouse properly (when I do it it stays "pressed" forever) and also that X crashes after a while...
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What did you do to modify it and get it to work? I have the same touch screen and I've tried a number of things to the evdev config and none seem to make any difference.

this sounds cool anything i can do to help?

If anyone knows how the evdev can be modified to make this work, can they please share this with the rest of the world? I've tried to no avail. I would really like to be able to use UNR, but it's worthless without a touch screen on a touch screen only device.

I'm sorry I didn't respond to any of the later posts. I had a really terrible week full of exams ...
Anyway, I will be working on Ubuntu this weekend to see if I can solve the rest of the problems (wifi not working, sound not working, crashes ....). But for those who want to try I uploaded the image to Dropbox. Please give me some feedback: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3122179/rootfs.img
Once you have downloaded it you have to install the SDL and replece the Angstrom img with this one. (It won't work if you have the Urukdroid intramfs).
So yeah. Good luck with that and thanks in advance to those who give me some feedback

Hey
I would like to help you out, just one question, are you using the netbook edition or is it the desktop one?

It's Ubuntu Netbook Edition but I make it boot to the "normal" desktop since Unity needs 3D to work.
The graphic card is another thing I am working on since it would be better to use Unity in these kind of devices.

Hello,
If you want to try Linux on Android (for me, A101), you can try old method (with chroot) on Android rooted device (for me, Chulri root method); it's very easy to boot Debian or Ubuntu while Android is running:
link 1 http://www.saurik.com/id/10
link 2 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=899037
But for me, it's just for fun, not to work with this linux. But it works.

hum hum
Hello all,
may i resume or i am wrong if i say :
What super_sonic says allow to boot Ubuntu "inside" Android and get wifi, touchscreen and 3D working
What you propose with your rootfs.img is to get Ubuntu running really on the tab but unfortunatly with no wifi for the moment
I don't know if this can help but i was folllowing the same type of work here :
ttp://forum.archosfans.com/viewtopic.php?f=76&t=47869
Thanks guy for all the WORK you are doing

Yes, that sounds great! Will test it as soon as possible!

double post
Sorry for posting again, but i must precise i can not publish links here so the "http" and more is missed on each URL, those links might be helpful for you guys :
forum.archosfans.com/viewtopic.php?f=76&t=47869
.openaos.org/archives/152
be lucky

tazarus said:
Hello all,
may i resume or i am wrong if i say :
What super_sonic says allow to boot Ubuntu "inside" Android and get wifi, touchscreen and 3D working
What you propose with your rootfs.img is to get Ubuntu running really on the tab but unfortunatly with no wifi for the moment
I don't know if this can help but i was folllowing the same type of work here :
ttp://forum.archosfans.com/viewtopic.php?f=76&t=47869
Thanks guy for all the WORK you are doing
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Thanks dude! I really appreciate when what I do is useful for someone!
And yeah the guy from the archosfans forum it's me
Dropbox has suspended my account for using too much bandwith. So if you want to try it I hope I will have a new version by Monday on another server.

one more
Thanks,
don't worry for your img, i get it just before they closed your DropBox
I found one more guy trying to put Debian on A101
3w.dev.katlea-studio.com/home.html?PHPSESSID=fik67vlp0mv9c59pg8cm5pt0c3
he says "About wifi: ability to connect and make a ping but the internet does not work. I try to solve this quickly."
good luck again

tazarus said:
I found one more guy trying to put Debian on A101
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He succeeded actually.
cf. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1000081

[Q] Android for Blackstone - Complete and Working Packages for Download

Dear Android experts and users,
I'm aware this attempt has been made for a few times. Still I'd like to give it yet another try. The information published in this area is greatly useful and comprehensive. However one trying just to start working with Android on Blackstone device immediately finds himself or herself totally confused by the myriads of the links, options and suggestions.
Please upload and publish here your complete and proved working Android packages. Let other less experienced users to simply download and enjoy your polished and working solutions.
Many thanks in advance.
Poketix.

I aggree with poketix.. We must have a whole package and some good options of which is the most working package for android

Can I have a new car and house while your at it? seriously guys, it's not a shop here! have a bloody read and stop being so lazy!!!!

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=951962
TP2 forum with complete Froyo 2.2.2 bundle.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=951817
TP2 forum with complete Gingerbread 2.3 bundle ALPHA STATE.
Just follow the instructions to use the correct startup.txt. You'll also need my ts-calibration, which I posted in one or two threads in this forum, don't use the ones in above threads.
And last, go to the kernel and rootfs autobuild sites to get latest ones (at this time, no difference between the ones in the threads and in the autobuild):
Kernel autobuild
Rootfs autobuild
Interesting reference site
XDAndroid wiki (somewhat outdated)

For blackstone users cam is definately working on FRX05..
but for Cherry Pie Build v3 not yet.. but one of these days it will!
cherry pie build is faster and more stable than FRX05 for blackstone.. could be different on other phones!

As I only use XDAndroid builds I only post about them. If you want to give directions to others, feel free.

Cam working on blackstone with a really fast and stable rom http://www.neopeek.com/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=6455

Dream on man, maybe in 2020 we will try to use Android on our phones
FRX136546457382892 should work, let's wait a little longer

teti77 said:
Dream on man, maybe in 2020 we will try to use Android on our phones
FRX136546457382892 should work, let's wait a little longer
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With a few tweaks, fixes and workarounds it works pretty well.
I only use WinMo when i want to put something on the sd.

hrk7474 said:
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I only use WinMo when i want to put something on the sd.
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I use dropbox for that.......

hrk7474 said:
With a few tweaks, fixes and workarounds it works pretty well.
I only use WinMo when i want to put something on the sd.
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Not even then... I use ES file explorer and use wifi to access my computer files XD
Bad news though... I made the mistake of breaking a boot and my data.img got corrupted Been using WM until I can extract apps from old data and insert them in a new one (a little experiment).

Update about my little testing:
I gave up XD The problem is that I don't have a permanent linux installation anymore (a big mistake on my side), so it's difficult to work with ext2 images.
A USB live distro is good for little things, but not to create a stable testing environment
Luckily I had a recent backup with titanium.

Failed in GB, I tried the FRX05. But it has the same problem as GB:
1. dialer response is slow. Pressing a digit takes 4 seconds to be displayed.
2. Dial from xdandroid, connection ok but no voice from mic and speaker.
3. Dial to xdandroid, connection also ok, voice can be received but mic is dead.
Any idea why? How can I troubleshoot them?

FRX05_Full_Bundle_3.3.2011 is definitely working on my HTC Touch HD, including camera, wifi, BT and all. The only issues that remain and I noticed are 1. some minor stuttering of sound while playing music or video, 2. USB mass storage connection requires installation disk on my Vista 64 Ultimate and does not work therefore.
Any suggestions?

pohunek said:
FRX05_Full_Bundle_3.3.2011 is definitely working on my HTC Touch HD, including camera, wifi, BT and all. The only issues that remain and I noticed are 1. some minor stuttering of sound while playing music or video, 2. USB mass storage connection requires installation disk on my Vista 64 Ultimate and does not work therefore.
Any suggestions?
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you can pair devices in Bluetooon when no sound appears when pairing headphone

That was not the issue I asked about. No problem with the headphones in this build either ...

pohunek said:
FRX05_Full_Bundle_3.3.2011 is definitely working on my HTC Touch HD, including camera, wifi, BT and all. The only issues that remain and I noticed are 1. some minor stuttering of sound while playing music or video, 2. USB mass storage connection requires installation disk on my Vista 64 Ultimate and does not work therefore.
Any suggestions?
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USB mass storage is a known issue, but there are some tips and tricks mentioned in this thread earlier.
As for the audio, are you using g3rm0's 1277 kernel?
BTW guys, StineBD released a new system.ext2: FRX06

hrk7474 said:
USB mass storage is a known issue, but there are some tips and tricks mentioned in this thread earlier.
As for the audio, are you using g3rm0's 1277 kernel?
BTW guys, StineBD released a new system.ext2: FRX06
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Gingerbread new test image is available as well: here
List of fixes from stinebd's blog:
Further tuned keyboard sizing to be useful on VGA (also made the key labels bigger)
World-phone settings support (very important for future RIL enhancements especially on CDMA)
Enabled HSPA icon (someone on GSM please let me know if it actually works)

frxo6 working fine but battery still not good :-(
tried Gingerbread new test image is available as well: here
loads fine but no market place installed? also Enabled HSPA icon did not work for me

FM Radio
Where is FM Radio application in FRX06_Full_Bundle_25.3.2011 android??
As well as no handsfree working..