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[GUIDE] How to change your PRL while using CM7

YES YOU READ THAT CORRECTLY
First off, huge props to Bierce and Oostah for all the searching and then providing me the info on how we might be able to enter DIAG mode on your phone while on CM7. All I did was manage to get it to work, and taking a leap of faith by trying to change my prl while using CM7
Something we never thought was possible...​
Second, this isn't exactly for the faint of heart. QPST can really mess up your phone if you don't know what you're doing (read as: venture off and mess around with the program). Also, since I literally just did this this evening, there obviously hasn't been extensive testing with it. So "continue at your own risk".
Personally I haven't had issues with it and I've changed my PRL about 5 times to make sure it works. But still, it goes without saying: I'm not responsible if your phone gets FUBAR
What you'll need:
MSL -> (msl reader app)
Diagnostic Drivers (htc) -> google it for now, but I think these are the correct ones you need LINK
QPST -> Get the latest version here​
install QPST
Get your MSL
Install the Htc Diagnostic Drivers (if needed)
Connect your phone to your PC
Open 'Terminal Emulator' on your phone and enter the following:
Code:
echo 1 > /dev/qct_diag_enable
This enables Diagnostics Mode, which enables us to use QPST
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Open QPST Configuration
Select the "Ports" tab
Click "Add New Port"
Uncheck "Show Serial and USB/QC Diagnostic ports only"
Click on your device and hit OK
Highlight your phone on the "Ports" tab
Open up the "Start Clients" menu
Click on "Service Programming"
QPST Service Programming will open up and a "Phone Selection" window will appear: Click your phone if needed, and press OK
Now select the "Roam" tab and click on "Read from Phone" button
Enter your MSL, OK
Click on the "Browse" button and select the PRL file you want on your phone
Click the "Write to Phone" button next to the "read phone" button
Wait for it to finish writing to the phone. You might (read as most likely) get an error box, click OK on it.
Once all that is done, you can reboot your phone and enjoy the changed PRL without nandroiding, nand-restoring/flashing, etc. etc.
I just want to mention that the first time I did it, I lost my Mobile Data connection (3g) and after a reboot it was stuck on 1x. After another reboot, it was back to normal. But I believe that it was because I tried a verizon PRL that drops my service to almost 0.
End results​
Yes, I know the status bars are 2 different colors. I have the Orion theme on my SDcard at the moment so it takes a little while to load up. But I assure you its the exact same CM7 rom and everything.

edit: oops double post >_<

ha you beet me to this kyouko great guide man. if yall are having trouble getting diag drivers to install please use this guide.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=114087
and the te method will work on all aosp roms.

thank you. works like a champ.
running cm7 nightly 129 heroc

Nice work man glade to see this working.
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Kyouko > heroc
Kyouko ~ shooter
BANG! from my shooter...

il Duce said:
Kyouko > heroc
Kyouko ~ shooter
BANG! from my shooter...
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I'm still waiting on the Within (SGSII) to get released for sprint. I wanna check that out before I get an upgrade. Either way, probably wont get a new phone till fall :/
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kyouko said:
I'm still waiting on the Within (SGSII) to get released for sprint. I wanna check that out before I get an upgrade. Either way, probably wont get a new phone till fall :/
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NICE JOB man i found the same thing was coming to tell you about the
echo 1 > /dev/qct_diag_enable
and to disable it
echo 0 > /dev/qct_diag_disable
it may be echo 1 then > /dev/qct_diag_disable
i will test then edit post

it would be:
Code:
echo 1 > /dev/qct_diag_enable
echo 0 > /dev/qct_diag_enable
to turn diag mode on and off, respectively
/dev/qct_diag_disable doesn't exist
You can check that with terminal emulator...
Code:
su
cd /dev/
ls

Thought I'd mention that I've used this method easily more than 20 times between my phone and another hero with ZERO problems.
I know in the OP it might sound a little scary, the warning is mostly for screwing around with QPST in the areas not talked about.
Sent from my Hero using Tapatalk

When I click ADD NEW PORT, my phone is not showing up.

I am running Windows 7 Professional on my computer. For whatever reason, while trying to install the drivers and HTC sync, I could never get my phone to connect. I tried manually updating the diagnostics drivers to no avail. I fought with it for about an hour before saying forget it(not exact terminology). I am not sure if others have encountered this, but I will post my work around. I searched for a virtual machine solution with no results, so also not sure if its been talked about in other threads.
My job is programming controllers for building automation. I know a few pieces of our software will not work properly with W7. We have to run a virtual machine on our computers. Microsoft has been so kind that if you are running Windows 7 Professional, Enterprise, or Ultimate, you can download, for free, an XP Virtual Machine. I'm going to assume, since what you guys are able to do with phones is over my head, you know what a Virtual machine is.
I apologize about the links, since I am a newbie, I can't post outside links, if you need the links, PM me and I will give them to you.
Here is the link to Microsoft's site where the VM ware is(I could only get IE Explorer to work, I normally use Firefox but it wouldn't work with the microsoft security): Google "XP Mode" The first link should be one to microsoft's website.
Go through the steps and download the xp mode and virtual machine. continue with the installation. With this, I installed Sync 2.0.40 with no problems. No additional drivers to install.
HTC Site: Under the downloads section on the HTC Site for the hero
Hooked up my phone. Everything worked as it should. I've now switched between a few different PRLS. I've been running CM7 and just switched to Jaybob's AOSP 2.3.5.
I'm not sure if this will ever help anybody, but I thought I would at least post it.

Great guide man. This helps alot with changing the prl. I really got tired of flashing back to stock then back to cm7. 2 thumbs up.
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edit: Well i tried this little tutorial and it didn't do crap for me.

Nice guide, but that seems a lot harder than just doing a nandroid backup, flashing a sense rom (fresh in my case), updating PRL/Profile/etc, and restoring from your original backup.

Im stuck on 1x data with the PRL 21081. Should I try updateing to fix this? Also my Wifi says error all the time and wont turn on if that has anything to do with it. Thanks.

After some initial difficulty getting setup (the main issue being the diagnostic drivers (vista drivers) listed in the link didn't work on MY 64 bit win7 setup. I did find an alternate source that worked, I'll link it here if I can track it down...) I was able to get this working, and once setup, it's a breeze. Definitely easier than going back to a sense rom to do it.
It was only the initial setup that was a pain. So, my hero took a couple hours of mucking around to ultimately update the PRL, BUT, took about 5 minutes to update my son's, and the bulk of THAT time was getting msl reader on his phone, and rebooting after the write to phone phase.
Awesome.

hareofthedog said:
After some initial difficulty getting setup (the main issue being the diagnostic drivers (vista drivers) listed in the link didn't work on MY 64 bit win7 setup. I did find an alternate source that worked, I'll link it here if I can track it down...) I was able to get this working, and once setup, it's a breeze. Definitely easier than going back to a sense rom to do it.
It was only the initial setup that was a pain. So, my hero took a couple hours of mucking around to ultimately update the PRL, BUT, took about 5 minutes to update my son's, and the bulk of THAT time was getting msl reader on his phone, and rebooting after the write to phone phase.
Awesome.
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Yeah, if you can find the link to what worked for you with this process that'd be great. I had the same problem you mentioned when I attempted this with the wife's phone. But I never found the right drivers. I would be eternally grateful.

These are the ones that worked for me, found them here, of course,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=801570

hareofthedog said:
These are the ones that worked for me, found them here, of course,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=801570
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Unfortunately this didn't change anything for me. I am trying to update the prl on an evo shift though, so that may be the ultimate factor after all. I may just have to give in and revert her phone back to stock temporarily to update it. I've used QPST many times with updating my Epic, so I'm certainly comfortable with that aspect. I thank you for your assistance nonetheless. Hopefully it will be the determining factor for someone else in a similar position.
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will this method only work with cm7??

[APP]OpenBuildProp project

I recently went searching for a collection of build.prop for any and all devices and although I could find build props for several devices, I usually needed to know some specifics about the device and then search google for the build.prop. This is all fine and dandy for finding a build.prop here and there but what I really wanted to find was a centralized location for any and all build prop files. Will this be useful? Who knows, but it's easy enough to gather this data and present it in a way that is easily searchable and open to the entire public.
With that goal in mind I have started by creating a very simple application that will allow a user to upload their build.prop to my server. I'll be working on the server side to make it possible for anyone to simply browse through the various build props that have been collected via this application.
Participating is as simple as installing the app and clicking a button. After successful upload of your build.prop you can simply uninstall the app. If you are game for participating then please check use the link below to download the app and submit your build.prop. Once I get the server side all set up I will update this OP and provide the url for where you can access the acquired build props.
DOWNLOAD
OpenBuildProp.apk
APP SOURCE CODE
https://github.com/0xD34D/OpenBuildProp
OpenBuildProp Site
http://openbuildprop.scheffsblend.com/
Thank you in advance to those that participate and contribute to my efforts in providing a central repository for device build props.
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Wow whoever thought of using an app to do this is truely a Genius!

jcase said:
Wow whoever thought of using an app to do this is truely a Genius!
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I agree and whoever offered to retweet about it and did not is a douche.
To be fair though, this isn't an entirely new concept. I have an app on the market that pulled specific fields from the build prop and would sync that up with a central DB if the user opted to do so. This goes a step further and collects the entire build.prop for later use, and for others to look up as well.

Not a bad idea,shall submit soon, could this also be expanded to be used (in the near future) to edit the certain aspects of the build.prop automatically, ie; to adjust Ro.product.model from default to Galaxy Nexus or which ever phone model, to make certain apps work , ie camera , and then back to default if you wanted to. mere suggestions though

I forgot that I had a modded build.prop . I tweaked it to make use of the 4.2 camera. Please pull the "Google Nexus 4 sgh-i847". I'd hate to be spreading false information

Fascinating I will be uploading mine as well, if I have a custom ROM will that change the build.prop in anyway?

great idea ...
submitted mine ...

I have been thinking a bunch about how best to optimize the information in the build.prop. There are so many non-standard ways of doing things.
One of my projects probes and sorts devices based on their build.prop and I am constantly amazed at how wildly they differ. Even sorting CyanogenMod and CM kangs is difficult to do well. Sorting by build date took me a long time as well.
I have a feeling you are going to see a bunch of modified info, as some apps and users mod theirs and then forget. But maybe you have some sor of aggregation method that will eventually overrule bad data.
I find it maddening that the build.prop contains no standardized information about screen resolution, i.e. large-mdpi or xhdpi, etc.
I will be looking, thanks for trying to make some sense of this world. It won't always be like this, thankfully. I am glad you asked me to vent my frustrations while I was here...:silly:
Edit: I have maybe 80-100 random builds on my desktop at any given moment, for bunches of devices. Any plans for a web uploader or did I miss it?

great idea! just submitted mine, hope many others will follow to make this collection successful.

Submitted mine and then realised after reading comments that it's tweaked, I went to your site to find it (under LT26i label). It contains v6 superchager data in the bottom of the file. Please remove it if needed.

OpenBuildProp Project
Uploaded my build.prop file from the phone for LGL45C Optimus Net from Net10.

Nice i will do this later for my Gio phone and Tom-Tec tablet.
Would be nice if this helps me out to find device that are like my tablet. (Telechip, Arm7,)

0xD34D said:
I agree and whoever offered to retweet about it and did not is a douche.
To be fair though, this isn't an entirely new concept. I have an app on the market that pulled specific fields from the build prop and would sync that up with a central DB if the user opted to do so. This goes a step further and collects the entire build.prop for later use, and for others to look up as well.
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lol

Would this app work with minSdkVersion 7 as well? My Nook Touch reader (eInk display, touch) still runs Android 2.1

Uploaded Nexus4 with another update

uploaded build.prop of captivate running slim ics 4.2
and 1 thing I would like to see is to add a button in the app which will take the user to the website when pressed
and really nice work and idea

Uploaded HTC Vision running Andromadus Mimicry 1.5 ICS
also can't upload from my stock Nexus 7 running Jelly Bean 4.2 get a failed to upload error,any suggestions?
cheers

this is awesome
thanks for doing it
i would also love to see maybe a spin off of this project which lists known meanings for the abbreviations used in the build.props
tried to start one such thread here awhile ago
it never really caught on

Removing Play Store & Services / Gapps

Like many now, I want to avoid Google's services for privacy reasons, and use CM / PA / other ROMs without anything Googly installed.
Thus the Priv is only an option for me if I can completely strip everything Google out of it. Priv is supposed to stand for privacy, but sharing everything with Google isn't very private ....
I have a bad feeling that there'll be no option whatsoever to do this. Also, it looks like the phone uses Google's phone and messaging apps, so I assume core BB services rely on those and therefore Play / Gapps ...
Then of course there's the dark cloud that a heavily locked down bootloader / difficult root access may cast.
Anyone have any thoughts?

Google probably already has all your information, i'm sorry...it's too late

If it lives up to what it is supposed to then it will be completely locked down with no aosp based options. Also as all the stuff will be tied to blackberries servers even if you did manage to unlock it you might find a device that is useless

zelendel said:
Also as all the stuff will be tied to blackberries servers even if you did manage to unlock it you might find a device that is useless
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Only BBM goes through the BlackBerry servers now, unless you're using it on a BES exchange.

Yeah, I'm in the same boat. I think it's a "wait and see" type of situation where we have to see if someone with the knowhow is able to root it and go from there.
Like Zel said, probably won't get custom roms, due to the advertised features of the device but I'm hoping, at the very least, the phone is successful and other OEMs start taking physical keyboarded devices seriously and make decent phones with them like they did when android was young. Could you imagine if Samsung, for example, made a GS7 variant that took physical keyboards as seriously as the note series takes big screens & wacom pens?

I think Priv will come with 2 OSes loaded, and you are prompted from the first boot to choose your preferred OS. So just choose BB10
Or go with Passport or classic, really good phone

vutranloc said:
I think Priv will come with 2 OSes loaded, and you are prompted from the first boot to choose your preferred OS. So just choose BB10
Or go with Passport or classic, really good phone
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This will not be an option. This would remove all the security that BB will depend on. I mean BB will most likely even use hardware crypto keys as well as the new security from qualcom that will refuse to boot if it detects system changes.

zelendel said:
This will not be an option. This would remove all the security that BB will depend on. I mean BB will most likely even use hardware crypto keys as well as the new security from qualcom that will refuse to boot if it detects system changes.
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Well these 2 images show the ortherwise...
- Here the passport have quick toggle labeled "switch to android"
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- Here the "slider" (priv) have this selection in first booting

vutranloc said:
Well these 2 images show the ortherwise...
- Here the passport have quick toggle labeled "switch to android"
- Here the "slider" (priv) have this selection in first booting
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That is odd indeed. As this would bypass all the security that BB has worked very hard to come up with. Ill have to look into this more. The only devices that I know that dual boot are Asia based knock offs.
Thanks for the info will dig in and ping a few people about this.

zelendel said:
That is odd indeed. As this would bypass all the security that BB has worked very hard to come up with. Ill have to look into this more. The only devices that I know that dual boot are Asia based knock offs.
Thanks for the info will dig in and ping a few people about this.
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Sure things no problem
But in fact I think this will do no harm, as the choice is permanent: You get to choose 1, and to stick with it till you factory reset the phone. In some phones (eg, for the gov or firms) you only get BB10 or android, in commercial edition you get both, but only use 1 at a time

I'm pretty sure that OS selection theory was well debunked in the Crackberry forums. People looked at that Passport image, and if you look closely at that switch to Android button, it doesn't quite have the right dimensions or separation from the other setting buttons.

vutranloc said:
I think Priv will come with 2 OSes loaded, and you are prompted from the first boot to choose your preferred OS. So just choose BB10
Or go with Passport or classic, really good phone
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There is only one OS loaded on the Priv, and that's Android.
The dual boot BB10/Android dream was just that... a dream. It only existed in photoshop, not in the real world.

Phill_UK said:
There is only one OS loaded on the Priv, and that's Android.
The dual boot BB10/Android dream was just that... a dream. It only existed in photoshop, not in the real world.
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Still I do hope of BB10 on Priv. For my needs BB10 is perfectly fine

Sorry this is absolute fantasy - it's an android phone running 5.1 - Google never has and never will sign off on a dual-boot. There is no dual-boot, no hypervisor - it's a virtually stock android device with a few interesting hardware features, some Blackberry specific software and that's it. BB10 doesn't even support the resolution of the screen and all work beyond security patches has finished on that OS.

vutranloc said:
Well these 2 images show the ortherwise...
- Here the passport have quick toggle labeled "switch to android"
- Here the "slider" (priv) have this selection in first booting
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You do realize that those are doctored photos right? It was confirm that the switch to android was someone with too much time on their hands with a BES account.

achiquitachaser said:
You do realize that those are doctored photos right? It was confirm that the switch to android was someone with too much time on their hands with a BES account.
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Still you say it is possible right?

vutranloc said:
Still you say it is possible right?
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No. No one said BB10/Android dual booting or OS selection was/is/ever will be a thing.

pluto7443 said:
No. No one said BB10/Android dual booting or OS selection was/is/ever will be a thing.
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Actually the guy above you said it might be possible with bes

Can it be done? Yes. It could be done. The question at hand us will it be done. To be honest I wouldn't give it better then a 5% chance off it happening. If it even does it will be an Asia based knock off running Android and what ever.

vutranloc said:
Actually the guy above you said it might be possible with bes
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He meant it was someone with BES who managed to make the option appear. Go search crackberry for the various threads on this, it has already been discussed to death.

Wear24: How to install whats app and android pay apk through adb?

Can I install android pay directly into wear24 watch through ADB?
Can I install Whatsapp directly into wear24 watch through adb?

shekarpcs said:
Can I install android pay directly into wear24 watch through ADB?
Can I install Whatsapp directly into wear24 watch through adb?
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adb -h gives this and more: :good:
Code:
app installation:
install [-lrtsdg] PACKAGE
install-multiple [-lrtsdpg] PACKAGE...
push package(s) to the device and install them
-l: forward lock application
-r: replace existing application
-t: allow test packages
-s: install application on sdcard
-d: allow version code downgrade (debuggable packages only)
-p: partial application install (install-multiple only)
-g: grant all runtime permissions
uninstall [-k] PACKAGE
remove this app package from the device
'-k': keep the data and cache directories

Cool. Thanks for the great info. Are there any commands to check the NFC status, Enable disable?
Looks like wear24 watch has NFC but it is not enabled.

shekarpcs said:
Cool. Thanks for the great info. Are there any commands to check the NFC status, Enable disable?
Looks like wear24 watch has NFC but it is not enabled.
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If it it was my watch, I would check here if it was me trying to find that kind of info on that watch, since using that I found this. Since I do not have that watch, good luck finding what you need, or maybe someone else here knows.
Again, type
Code:
adb --help
in a terminal to get all command switches.

hmm interested in this also. may pick one up for testing

they are $75 on woot today

just bought it $79 from Ebay. hoping someone can hack it. Android pay is the most important one, since this watch has LTE, GPS, and NFC, etc.

Anyone have a link to the Android Pay for Wear APK? I have my Wear24 and I'll try to install it.

jconnell said:
Anyone have a link to the Android Pay for Wear APK? I have my Wear24 and I'll try to install it.
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Interested in this also. The wear24 seems a rock solid hardware, unfortunately software is crippling, I am also willing to experiment on this. When i connect the watch to computer, it just charges. Is there a way to make it connect like a file system for transferring files?

rpvgadgets said:
Interested in this also. The wear24 seems a rock solid hardware, unfortunately software is crippling, I am also willing to experiment on this. When i connect the watch to computer, it just charges. Is there a way to make it connect like a file system for transferring files?
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straight forward way would be to use debugging to push and install files.

rpvgadgets said:
Interested in this also. The wear24 seems a rock solid hardware, unfortunately software is crippling, I am also willing to experiment on this. When i connect the watch to computer, it just charges. Is there a way to make it connect like a file system for transferring files?
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You have to use ADB over WiFi since there is not direct USB connection available. Pushing it pulling apps over WiFi is pretty easy and I used to do it on my of Moto 360. Way easier on the Huawei watch
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I can't find the Android Pay for wear APK. You have any idea where to get it? I can push it via ADB once I find it.

Did you have any luck with this?

Alright, so i am willing to do it, but I need to know where to get the Android Pay application to push to the watch, and what commands.

KOAO said:
Alright, so i am willing to do it, but I need to know where to get the Android Pay application to push to the watch, and what commands.
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Did a post about this a few weeks back, didn't gain any traction though.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/an...-to-sideload-apks-android-wear-watch-t3726276

Did any of you get android pay working with Wear24 watch?

I'm assuming the android pay apk is completely different from the smartphone version?

Does anybody here happen to have access to a watch with android pay? If so, they could pull the package via adb so someone could test it.
adb pull /path/to/package-name.apk path/to/desired/destination
I ordered one yesterday off of techrabbit, but this'll be my first android wear device. Coming from a PTS since fitbit recently announced it's death.

jconnell said:
I can't find the Android Pay for wear APK. You have any idea where to get it? I can push it via ADB once I find it.
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Jizzay1 said:
Did you have any luck with this?
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KOAO said:
Alright, so i am willing to do it, but I need to know where to get the Android Pay application to push to the watch, and what commands.
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https://www.apkmirror.com/apk/googl...oid-wear-1-34-171856247-android-apk-download/

I just tried it on my watch. I can install the app and add cards, but there's currently no way to enable nfc, so it refuses to function.
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custom ROM that is ultra ultra minimal... is it possible?

I am a noob to rooting, and flashing custom roms. However, I'm very computer literate.
I bought the Xperia X compact because it appeared flashing roms would be very possible.
I have a simply idea, I want to make a rom that is so ultra minimal many of you might think I'm crazy.
All I want it a phone with a black screen, one icon of each: phone, contacts, txt, calculator.
that is it. I don't want internet, I don't want GPS.. nothing. I don't want any trace of any company on my phone.
Think of it this way, I want a blank slate, like a new fresh computer, and I want to install the OS of my choice, with only the things I want. I can't seem to find anything like this(it may exist, but my searching of the web returns nothing close) Can someone please help me with this?
Thanks in advance.
Mike

matridium said:
I am a noob to rooting, and flashing custom roms. However, I'm very computer literate.
I bought the Xperia X compact because it appeared flashing roms would be very possible.
I have a simply idea, I want to make a rom that is so ultra minimal many of you might think I'm crazy.
All I want it a phone with a black screen, one icon of each: phone, contacts, txt, calculator.
that is it. I don't want internet, I don't want GPS.. nothing. I don't want any trace of any company on my phone.
Think of it this way, I want a blank slate, like a new fresh computer, and I want to install the OS of my choice, with only the things I want. I can't seem to find anything like this(it may exist, but my searching of the web returns nothing close) Can someone please help me with this?
Thanks in advance.
Mike
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install any OS you want, root, and delete system folders of whatever you don't want. Then, you can end up with a black screen and 4 apps and nothing else. However, there will never be 'no trace of any company' unless you build your own components and design your own os. Even the 4 apps you want are developed and installed by the os maker, and they run how they want tjem to, (including collecting data, etc). Also, removing apps is removing a small part of the system that runs the phone. There is the kernel, system processes, and more that are required to use the phone at all, (or even turn it on), and all of these things are designed to operate a certain way, and contain many traces of various companies. You can't remove those things.
But, if what you want is the appearance of such a thing, you can easily attain that.

levone1 said:
install any OS you want, root, and delete system folders of whatever you don't want. Then, you can end up with a black screen and 4 apps and nothing else. However, there will never be 'no trace of any company' unless you build your own components and design your own os. Even the 4 apps you want are developed and installed by the os maker, and they run how they want tjem to, (including collecting data, etc). Also, removing apps is removing a small part of the system that runs the phone. There is the kernel, system processes, and more that are required to use the phone at all, (or even turn it on), and all of these things are designed to operate a certain way, and contain many traces of various companies. You can't remove those things.
But, if what you want is the appearance of such a thing, you can easily attain that.
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Thanks for the reply,
I guess, what I'm asking, (maybe your answered this) is it possible to install the OS, and not install drivers to run things like WIFI, GPS. I simply have no use for them. I currently turn them off on my X compact. I can get two solid days without charging my phone with just these two things turned off. Second, I use nothing on the phone, but placing calls, occasional TXT, and simple calculations. IMO there's absolutely no reason to have anything else on a phone. so in your reply you say install the OS I want, root it, and delete anything I want. So, since I don't know much about this and I'm still learning, what are the most one can delete from the system and still have a functioning phone? Does Sony publish a list what's on the Mother board, and what drivers run them? If there is it would be a great starting point for me to get an idea of what can absolutely not be deleted.
Thanks again!

matridium said:
Thanks for the reply,
I guess, what I'm asking, (maybe your answered this) is it possible to install the OS, and not install drivers to run things like WIFI, GPS. I simply have no use for them. I currently turn them off on my X compact. I can get two solid days without charging my phone with just these two things turned off. Second, I use nothing on the phone, but placing calls, occasional TXT, and simple calculations. IMO there's absolutely no reason to have anything else on a phone. so in your reply you say install the OS I want, root it, and delete anything I want. So, since I don't know much about this and I'm still learning, what are the most one can delete from the system and still have a functioning phone? Does Sony publish a list what's on the Mother board, and what drivers run them? If there is it would be a great starting point for me to get an idea of what can absolutely not be deleted.
Thanks again!
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May be a list compiled somewhere, but I can't say I know enough about it to give you direction. I think it would definitely be a chore to figure out, since modern roms can have over 100 system apps installed, (between /system/app and /system/priv-app), plus all of the other stuff. As far as Sony publishing info, they have an 'open' program for developers, but it's not entirely open source. You can find all of the sources they do make available on Sony developer site.
Personally, I usually just use the built-in app disabler and disable anything I don't want, and it hides the icon. Some things you can't officially disable, but you can use a third-party app, or delete app folders, but you want to be careful and make a backup. Maybe just move folders to a temp folder somewhere, in recovery file manager, and see if it reboots. Then, if not, you can go back to recovery and put it back...

levone1 said:
May be a list compiled somewhere, but I can't say I know enough about it to give you direction. I think it would definitely be a chore to figure out, since modern roms can have over 100 system apps installed, (between /system/app and /system/priv-app), plus all of the other stuff. As far as Sony publishing info, they have an 'open' program for developers, but it's not entirely open source. You can find all of the sources they do make available on Sony developer site.
Personally, I usually just use the built-in app disabler and disable anything I don't want, and it hides the icon. Some things you can't officially disable, but you can use a third-party app, or delete app folders, but you want to be careful and make a backup. Maybe just move folders to a temp folder somewhere, in recovery file manager, and see if it reboots. Then, if not, you can go back to recovery and put it back...
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I know that Sony has their open environment for developers. I like that they do this, its a good thing. I think there is a forum on their, I might be able to get some answers. I thought that on XDA, someone would actually know what you can and can't delete since it appears to me, making a custom rom would require deleting and removing things or adding things. Someone probably knows... From my perspective, I have found that most things that reference custom ROMs (here on XDA, or YouTube) seem to revolve around, either tricking out a phone, or "I did it! because I can"... "this does not work, I'm going to figure this out" and all of that is very cool. but I have not seen much in regards to hacks that make phones more useful, like a tool instead of the toys they are.
when I find out anything from Sony or on my own about doing what I propose, I will post back here. If anyone has any ideas or resources just let me know.
Thanks!

I think you could probably do better with some classic phone (not smartphone) with requirements like this.

A Sonim XP5 would come closest to fitting your requirements right out of the box. You start hacking on a smartphone too much and you'll end up with a paper weight.

The sonim xp5 looks promising.
I ordered a used from ebay I'm going to give it a try.
I still think phones should be sold with an option to Install anything you want just like computers. In fact the Industry would be even better if they followed what computers did. Allow people to purchase their own Mother boards, enclosures, batteries, and components, and let users build their own phones. just think it would a much better market.
Thanks for the help

got the XP5 but its not what I want either
The XP5 is ok.... If I want to survive a nuclear holocaust! That thing is thick as brick. Its a neat idea, but a little to limited.
OK, so I'm thinking has anyone installed a straight Linux OS on the Compact.
any thoughts?

matridium said:
The XP5 is ok.... If I want to survive a nuclear holocaust! That thing is thick as brick. Its a neat idea, but a little to limited.
OK, so I'm thinking has anyone installed a straight Linux OS on the Compact.
any thoughts?
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yes. Linux deploy works great. I had Ubuntu and Kali running smoothly. Look up a tutorial, but know that there are a few ways to do it. I used boot-from-sdcard method . Basically partition sdcard, using 8gb or so of ext4 for Linux, then open Linux deploy app, and set preferences for environment, then install os, (takes a while and you need a strong internet connection), then use vnc app to connect to the Linux desktop. Almost everything works well, but sound is tricky. I got it partially working with media server app. Also, the file system is set up slightly different than on a Linux computer, so i had a little trouble with apktool... Another nice thing about it is that you can easily mount your android storage to the Linux desktop in terminal, and the Linux os runs basically as an app, so you can just go back and forth on the fly, and transfer files easily.

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