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Wow no lag on the G2. Its so nice to select a button and the screen respond instantly with no lag. GPS locks even in my basement, something which the vibrant couldn't do.
But, (yes there's a but) I'm not sure I like the keyboard and because the screen is smaller, its harder to type on the touchscreen so I'm gonna have to play with this for a few days.
I love the responsiveness of the G2. So much smoother than the vibrant. I do miss the screen and the super light form factor if the vibrant. Kind of miss the SAMOLED screen too.
Samsung please tell me when Froyo will be released to the vibrant?
I will give these to the G2:
-Keyboard is great especially for emulator
-Preloaded Froyo 2.2 means no wait, no uncertainty
-HTC is a great company and has been in the game longer, making high quality hardware.
-HSPA+
What I will miss on my Vibrant is I switch to a G2:
-Native avi, mkv and various other audio/video format support (my biggest selling point).
-AMOLE screen (you should see this coming after point one)
-The more powerful GPU for emulator
-Believe it or not TouchWiz (it really makes life easier in some aspect)
I think both phones caters to a different market, but G2 just seems "developer", it is a GREAT phone, don't get me wrong but it is just very plain in terms of look and specification. It does what every other android phone does but faster because of newer internals. (Vibrant at least brings in container/format support listed above).
A newer handset with newer CPU and GPU is not really considered as a feature because as time pass better hardware means better handset internals, it is inevitable.
The g2 has a chip which reinstalls stock firmware when it senses the firmware has been tampered with. BIG downfall IMO
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T-Mobile G2 Auto-Reinstalls Stock Android After a Jailbreak
If you were hoping to make any modifications to your T-Mobile G2, my apologies. Because the phone apparently ships with a rootkit that will override any changes you make to Android and reinstall the original firmware. That ain't right.
According to the New America Foundation, "one of the microchips embedded into the G2 prevents device owners from making permanent changes that allow custom modifications to the the Android operating system." The full 40-page blow-by-blow of the Dev Forum's thwarted attempts can be found here.
Between this and Motorola's Droid X eFuse kill switch, there's an unsettling—and growing—arrogance. An attitude that says you may have just paid for your phone, but you don't own it. Because if you truly owned it, you'd be able to modify it however you pleased. It's like buying a car and being told you can't buy new Bridgestones a month later. Or more relevantly, as NAF points out: it's like installing Linux on a Windows computer one night, and waking up to find Vista back in place.
So that G2 you bought? It's not yours. It's HTC and T-Mobile's. You're just borrowing it, and the terms of the loan are entirely non-negotiable. [Dev Forum via New America via Boing Boing]
Send an email to Brian Barrett, the author of this post, at [email protected].
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http://gizmodo.com/5656921/t+mobiles-g2-rootkit-will-reinstall-stock-android-after-a-jailbreak
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My exact thought! Did I NOT say that the G2 would fail!? ahahha people arent going to to like not being able to use custom ROM's etc
So that G2 you bought? It's not yours. It's HTC and T-Mobile's. You're just borrowing it, and the terms of the loan are entirely non-negotiable.
they'll eventually get root for the G2.
That said, with the correct file systems, the Vibrant would tear apart the G2. The Hummingbird is a superior architecture, the GPU is better, the screen is bigger and better, the form factor is thinner and lighter.
But if I thought HSPA+ was going to make a difference, or if I wanted a keyboard, the G2 would win me over. It's a nice feeling phone, and stock Android is always a plus.
Anyone know if the Desire Z is locked down also?
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they'll eventually get root for the G2.
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pretty much this especially since is an HTC phone
The feature that I miss the most from my vibrant is the out of the box ability to play my flac files.
But I think my choice to switch will be a worth wild one.
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The g2 has a chip which reinstalls stock firmware when it senses the firmware has been tampered with. BIG downfall IMO
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I Agree 100%, Vibrant is the best T mobile Android, Samsung outdid everyone on this phone!
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Perhaps you all could help me out with something. I got a G2, and was seriously considering selling my Vibrant. But, in order to give the decision its due diligence, I'd like to see what the Vibrant is like on a custom rom. I have it rooted, with RyanZa's lagifix from the market installed, and was wondering which of the current roms would be best to try out, in order to best evaluate the "pick me" quality of the Vibrant? I'd prefer not to have to wipe everything, if possible. But I'm amenable to, if need be. Thanks, in advance, for your input. I'd certainly appreciate it.
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Perhaps you all could help me out with something. I got a G2, and was seriously considering selling my Vibrant. But, in order to give the decision its due diligence, I'd like to see what the Vibrant is like on a custom rom. I have it rooted, with RyanZa's lagifix from the market installed, and was wondering which of the current roms would be best to try out, in order to best evaluate the "pick me" quality of the Vibrant? I'd prefer not to have to wipe everything, if possible. But I'm amenable to, if need be. Thanks, in advance, for your input. I'd certainly appreciate it.
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LOL, you are going to have to wipe in order to use the best roms
Which would you suggest, based on your experience with them?
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Which would you suggest, based on your experience with them?
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Try Eugene's Frankin-Twiz Rom. The thing flies with JAC's OC/UV Kernal.
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Which would you suggest, based on your experience with them?
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I've tried Franken T-Wiz, and Bionix. I can definitely suggest Bionix. Very quick. Very stable. MUCH better than stock.
With JI6 much of everything is responsive
I appreciate the input. Just to make sure I'm good to go...
I have the RyanZa lagfix installed. Do I/Should I use th e"undo lagfix" option before attempting to flash this rom?
I see that ity wipes automatically. Does that mean it wipes my internal memory card, i.e. any nandroid I backup would be deleted as well? Or is it just like a factory reset, whereby I would just need to restore my contacts, apps, etc.
Again, thank you for your input. It's very helpful.
Ok i just got my G2 but i have played with it all night. Here is my review....
G2 -- Pros
-Fast(Yes it seems a little zippier than the vibrant)
-Keyboard
-Camera quality is good with flash
-In call quality is great
-2.2
-HSPA+
G2 --Cons
-Hinges are a real problem even though plenty of people on the G2 forums say that it was designed that way. They are just fanboys. I have had a touch pro2 which tilt and it tilted fine for months. It wont slide out if you sit rightside up but laying down on you back which i tend to do alot at night is a no can do.
-Video recording is so choppy no match for the vibrant
-Camera quality without flash is like 3mp to me
-Internal space not 4GB
-sdcard not hot swappable
-Battery life sucks(i hear its a random issue)
-Terrible! I mean Horrible! Torpid speaker on this phone!
Vibrant --Pros
-5mp camera with great quality
-video quality is superb
-fast(atleast for me im on stock with no lag unlike some users)
-16gb internal
-Audio & Video codecs
-4 inch screen SAMOLED
-Light
-A free hd quality movie
-Great speaker quality
-Touchwiz(Some may disagree but it makes life easier in alot of instances ie: music controls on locksreen, call end, speaker buttons in notification bar, wifi toggle in bar,facebook & twitter integration, daily brief)
Vibrant --Cons
-Phone quality sometime bad
-gps
-No 2.2
Now some may disagree but this is how i compare the two. When the vibrant gets 2.2 i have to say it will be much better and will kill the g2 in benchmarks. For now i think ill give the g2 back to tmobile and keep my vibrant cause a keyboard & HSPA+(isnt everywhere so its barely useless) arent enough to make me switch.
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Ok i just got my G2 but i have played with it all night. Here is my review....
G2 -- Pros
-Fast(Yes it seems a little zippier than the vibrant)
-Keyboard
-Camera quality is good with flash
-In call quality is great
-2.2
-HSPA+
G2 --Cons
-Hinges are a real problem even though plenty of people on the G2 forums say that it was designed that way. They are just fanboys. I have had a touch pro2 which tilt and it tilted fine for months. It wont slide out if you sit rightside up but laying down on you back which i tend to do alot at night is a no can do.
-Video recording is so choppy no match for the vibrant
-Camera quality without flash is like 3mp to me
-Internal space not 4GB
-sdcard not hot swappable
-Battery life sucks(i hear its a random issue)
-Terrible! I mean Horrible! Torpid speaker on this phone!
Vibrant --Pros
-5mp camera with great quality
-video quality is superb
-fast(atleast for me im on stock with no lag unlike some users)
-16gb internal
-Audio & Video codecs
-4 inch screen SAMOLED
-Light
-A free hd quality movie
-Great speaker quality
-Touchwiz(Some may disagree but it makes life easier in alot of instances ie: music controls on locksreen, call end, speaker buttons in notification bar, wifi toggle in bar,facebook & twitter integration, daily brief)
Vibrant --Cons
-Phone quality sometime bad
-gps
-No 2.2
Now some may disagree but this is how i compare the two. When the vibrant gets 2.2 i have to say it will be much better and will kill the g2 in benchmarks. For now i think ill give the g2 back to tmobile and keep my vibrant cause a keyboard & HSPA+(isnt everywhere so its barely useless) arent enough to make me switch.
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This was really helpful. I was on the fence about paying for a G2 coming from a Vibrant, but you may have helped my decision. The lack of hard keyboard is my only issue with the Vibrant. I just about loathe typing on it. I need a button press.
However, all the pros about the vibrant are the real reason i bought thia phone. I dont care about benchmarks, its not like these devices are gaming pc's. Its a rediculous thing to measure in a phone.
Ill keep my Vibrant for now, $499 for a G2 just to get a keyboard simply isnt worth it.
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This was really helpful. I was on the fence about paying for a G2 coming from a Vibrant, but you may have helped my decision. The lack of hard keyboard is my only issue with the Vibrant. I just about loathe typing on it. I need a button press.
However, all the pros about the vibrant are the real reason i bought thia phone. I dont care about benchmarks, its not like these devices are gaming pc's. Its a rediculous thing to measure in a phone.
Ill keep my Vibrant for now, $499 for a G2 just to get a keyboard simply isnt worth it.
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Wait for some deals on it and get it as a backup.... I may do this...
Yea benchmarks are only good to measure. It won't make a big difference in day to day use unless you have g1 vs a vibrant. Plus I only use the hardware keyboard when texting a lot. Other than that you will 90% use the screen
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Whats the G1 like?
I suppose its a good phone.
The thing is, i have a very limited budget. I bought a LG GT540 about 2 months ago and i am not happy with the quality of it, so i thought why not a g1? I have liked the G1 ever since it came out and i have only seen one in real life, ever. I can't really afford a new one or a G2 or a newer android phone.
So, could you tell me what its like?
Any problems with the G1?
It would be great if you could help!
Thanks
Do you care about the camera pixels?
Screen resolution?
Screen size?
Color pixels?
adobe flash player?
Low Internal memory ?
Led flash or dual led flash?
If not the g1 is for you
I have upgraded mine to Froyo (the AOSP build). I have applied some of the changes found amongst these forums, and so have the new radio and enhanced memory, and I must say the phone performing wonderfully.
I don't surf on it heavily, but most apps I throw at it run very well.
As far as cons, Angry Birds doesn't do too well - it is so choppy as to be unplayable. Also, I have seen other phones that have a standard 3.5" stereo jack, and some that have an FM radio. These are two options I envy some.
But altogether, it's a great phone.
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Whats the G1 like?
I suppose its a good phone.
The thing is, i have a very limited budget. I bought a LG GT540 about 2 months ago and i am not happy with the quality of it, so i thought why not a g1? I have liked the G1 ever since it came out and i have only seen one in real life, ever. I can't really afford a new one or a G2 or a newer android phone.
So, could you tell me what its like?
Any problems with the G1?
It would be great if you could help!
Thanks
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G1 is a solid android device it may not have the best screen but as far as speed man root it set cpu to a nice speed maybe compache and zx donut or superD and youll be ard maybe buy an extra battery like 4 dollars on ebay so itll last u the whole day buy your self a 2-8gb sd card thats all ya need
well my lg can play angry birds well
has a fm radio
the g1 has a 3.2" same res screen as the lg.
same camera res
i only really care about android wifi gps camera and build quality
I just don't feel that the build quality of the lg is going to last for at least 1 year.
the other htc's ive had have been phucking solid.
thanks for your advise. I am trying to buy a g1 for under £120, then i can sell my lg or go back to my trusty htc himalaya.
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well my lg can play angry birds well
has a fm radio
the g1 has a 3.2" same res screen as the lg.
same camera res
i only really care about android wifi gps camera and build quality
I just don't feel that the build quality of the lg is going to last for at least 1 year.
the other htc's ive had have been phucking solid.
thanks for your advise. I am trying to buy a g1 for under £120, then i can sell my lg or go back to my trusty htc himalaya.
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haha good choice and you can get the g1 for like 60 on ebay and it might come with a screen protector charger case etc theres deals out there man look around
Too be honest, I would say just save up money and get a new android phone like the g2 or maybe even a used Nexus One.
The G1 ROM section is so boring now and it is NOT FAST at all. Even with these donut roms, all you will be doing is forcing yourself to believe that it is fast.
Coming from a dude whose phone has the space specs as the g1
Then get the device any android phone is good just with a simple root you can add feature, New Android 0S and removing annoying apps and the underclock speed from the carrier.
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G1 is a solid android device it may not have the best screen but as far as speed man root it set cpu to a nice speed maybe compache and zx donut or superD and youll be ard maybe buy an extra battery like 4 dollars on ebay so itll last u the whole day buy your self a 2-8gb sd card thats all ya need
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You can get it for cheaper in craigslist i bought an htc hero $40 dollars.
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haha good choice and you can get the g1 for like 60 on ebay and it might come with a screen protector charger case etc theres deals out there man look around
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Fm radio it ok but i think tune in radio for an radio app is better then sense ui Fm radio.
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I have upgraded mine to Froyo (the AOSP build). I have applied some of the changes found amongst these forums, and so have the new radio and enhanced memory, and I must say the phone performing wonderfully.
I don't surf on it heavily, but most apps I throw at it run very well.
As far as cons, Angry Birds doesn't do too well - it is so choppy as to be unplayable. Also, I have seen other phones that have a standard 3.5" stereo jack, and some that have an FM radio. These are two options I envy some.
But altogether, it's a great phone.
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Too be honest, I would say just save up money and get a new android phone like the g2 or maybe even a used Nexus One.
The G1 ROM section is so boring now and it is NOT FAST at all. Even with these donut roms, all you will be doing is forcing yourself to believe that it is fast.
Coming from a dude whose phone has the space specs as the g1
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Just buy it and use the latest froyo roms (see CYANOGENMOD forum, nightlies)
IMO, keyboard is the biggest thing for me. And the g1's keyboard is one of my favorites. I used sidekicks and blackberries, and was able to type without looking at my phone with all of them. I also upgraded to the g2 for a month, but returned it cause at the time there was no root.
I can confidently say that if you're into keyboards, you should save up for the g2 or just get the g1. Motorola cliq and the other motorla phones are not for me.
if you're a simple man/woman, then the g1 will be good.
Sent from my T-Mobile G1 using XDA App
True, if you could save up some extra £'s then you should get a G2 since its awesomely better & performs similar or even better than some of the new android phones out there. But if not, then go for the G1, mines been used for a year & a bit & still works great!
G1 is terrible, don't waste your time.
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I bought mine a year ago and I am still totally in love with it. It is the oldest android phone but still one of the best (IMHO). I had the opportunity to upgrade it to an LG optimus, but I prefered the quality of the G1.
- Less memory, slower processor
+ qwerty, quality, capacitive screen, developers and their cool roms
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I bought mine a year ago and I am still totally in love with it. It is the oldest android phone but still one of the best (IMHO). I had the opportunity to upgrade it to an LG optimus, but I prefered the quality of the G1.
- Less memory, slower processor
+ qwerty, quality, capacitive screen, developers and their cool roms
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All of those + can be had with other devices.
Ill admit that the g1 is a cool device, but it belongs in a museum at this point.. if you can get one for under $50 in excellent shape, go for it.. otherwise, save up and snag something a little newer.
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I wrote those pluses and minuses about the LG GT540 vs. G1 comparrison. Otherwise you re right there are many super phones out there if you have enough money.
G1 was a great phone. It allowed Android to sneak its way into the phone market and allowed the great N1 to make its way into the market. Now it's just dead. If you want a good Android phone, get a N1. It is still up to date with most smart phones and won't lead you wrong.
Hardware keyboards - They're great in certain situations. However, I can still type faster on my G2's soft keyboard than hardware keyboard and all I use is hardware keyboard to try and get used to it. After a few months of getting a G2, I'm still not faster with the hardware keyboard. Swype is also a great keyboard replacement, but I personally like typing letter by letter. With word prediction, it seems faster to correct mistakes.
Also, cyanogenmod 6.1 is great, but I couldn't use it on my myTouch3g. I often wondered if some of my RAM had failed or if my processor was starting to die because of how horribly slow it was yet everyone bragging about how fast it was. Indeed, it was great when I first loaded it. After I installed a few apps and a few widgets, that all went away. I tried numerous setups of swap, compcache and even left them be for weeks at a time seeing what was good and what wasn't... nothing was good. Now I'm running cyanogen 6.1 on my G2 and I've never seen it run so smooth and perfect.
If you absolutely desire a smart phone, and can get a G1 cheap, go for it. But I would personally only use it while saving up for something better. I'm aware these phones are pretty pricey and people have other priorities and they're not an option for everyone, but after using a G2 I can never go back to anything less than it.
Edit: Also, be careful buying budget Android phones. My fiancee has a Samsung Intercept on VM and even with a 800Mhz processor it is slow as dirt. It was basically unusable until I rooted it. And even with root there are still many, many speed issues.
I had a g1 for 2 years now I got a vibrant
If you are on a budget the g1 is the best most customizable android phone! There are tons of roms and you can overclock it and all other things plus its git a bunch of devs !
The vibrant has like 6 decent roms only from 3 devs
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I'll agree with alan up there, even though G1 development has severely slowed down, there are still devs working on producing ROMs for it and they are all great developers and do a very, very good job.
Is there anything I should know before making this trade?
Also, is the G2 easy to flash? Good ROMS available? Anyone else have a G2 that replaced your Vibrant? Are you happier with the G2? ect.
Thanks.
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Is there anything I should know before making this trade?
Also, is the G2 easy to flash? Good ROMS available? Anyone else have a G2 that replaced your Vibrant? Are you happier with the G2? ect.
Thanks.
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if cyanogen has been 'good' to your opinion in the past, yes. there is a nightly gingerbread which i'm enjoying very much right now.
my g2 gets about a 16 day on a stock battery charge, light usage. heavy usage = 12 hours. no useage = not sure, but better than a day.
sorry, no comment on the vibrant.
I am wary of the person who want's to trade away his G2, because the G2 is obviously better than the vibrant in every single way.
If there is nothing wrong with his G2, fuking grab up that shiet ASAP.
Dev for G2 is great. There is at least like 4 different ROMS currently available. The community here is great. The G2 has better hardware...
nuff said
Yes trade it the G2 is much better
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HELL YEAH!!
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Can someone explain to me how the g2 is "better than the vibrant in every way"? Sure, the vibrant doesn't have the support the g2 does, but it can be just as quick, has a larger screen, lighter and sleeker.
Stock for stock, the g2 wins of course. Modded, it's personal opinion. I prefer the sleeker phone and don't need a physical keypad. If you need a physical keypad, obviously the g2 beats out just about everything else out there with one.
Sent from my <tw> powered vibrant.
okay so i got both these phones and i find that i like the vibrant better. i leave my g2 just sitting at my desk and i barely got it like a week or two ago. yes i did perm root it and it has s off and all that and its running a virtous (correct me if i got the name wrong) sense rom. i like my g2 sometimes but the vibrant right now has more development and the g2 hasnt really had any new roms for like a while now. so i stick to the vibrant becasue mostly everyday theres a new update to a rom or someone finds a cool hack. anyways i think you should stick to the vibrant, personally i like my vibrant more, plus correct me if im wrong but i havent seen a modem thread for the g2 or a dragon kernel or any of the things team whiskey puts together. please g2 fan boys dont hate me, i do love my g2 too (lol) and i actually find it useful sometimes. i just think the vibrant is doing better right now. imho thats what i think. : /
I had both, vibrants got a gorgeous screen, but thats about the only plus. Built quality and hardware are far superior on the G2. You don't need a 1.512 GHz phone, but isn't it nice to know its capable?
Having only slate phones for a year and a half (mt3g, Nexus, Virbant) after selling my G1, I taught would never need a physical keyboard, but after using the G2 for 2 weeks I can't see myself ever typing on the virtual keyboard, even tho I LOVE Swiftkey. Even with the insanely smart predictive UI of Swiftkey I still type much faster on a hardware keyboard.
I Have both a Vibrant and a G2. I love my G2, but I am considering selling my Vibrant. The build quality is much better on the G2. The two main two things I don't like about the Vibrant are the lack of trackpad and the seriously poor quality of the GPS. Also I like having the option of using a physical keyboard and I don't care for the screen, I prefer the higher pixel density of the G2 and the colors of the Vibrant seem a bit off to me. Plus let's not forget that the G2 supports 4G, and the Vibrant does not.
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I Have both a Vibrant and a G2. I love my G2, but I am considering selling my Vibrant. The build quality is much better on the G2. The two main two things I don't like about the Vibrant are the lack of trackpad and the seriously poor quality of the GPS. Also I like having the option of using a physical keyboard and I don't care for the screen, I prefer the higher pixel density of the G2 and the colors of the Vibrant seem a bit off to me. Plus let's not forget that the G2 supports 4G, and the Vibrant does not.
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okay so i got both these phones and i find that i like the vibrant better. i leave my g2 just sitting at my desk and i barely got it like a week or two ago. yes i did perm root it and it has s off and all that and its running a virtous (correct me if i got the name wrong) sense rom. i like my g2 sometimes but the vibrant right now has more development and the g2 hasnt really had any new roms for like a while now. so i stick to the vibrant becasue mostly everyday theres a new update to a rom or someone finds a cool hack. anyways i think you should stick to the vibrant, personally i like my vibrant more, plus correct me if im wrong but i havent seen a modem thread for the g2 or a dragon kernel or any of the things team whiskey puts together. please g2 fan boys dont hate me, i do love my g2 too (lol) and i actually find it useful sometimes. i just think the vibrant is doing better right now. imho thats what i think. : /
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This guy has obviously not try MIUI
Vibrant DOES NOT have more support that the G2
just look at t he G2 section and tell me there no new roms
every rom is CONSTANTLY updated with better support
vibrant only has like 2 good ROMS to try while G2 has 4 or so
each with unique features.
The Vibrant does have a bunch of ROMs available, however none of them have been completely stable for me. I thought with the official 2.2 release that would be fixed, but I'm still dealing with all the same crap.
I went and checked out the G2 in the store yesterday and I definitely like it. I think the screen looks great and can't understand why people bash it.
Dude that's willing to trade said I need to unlock the Vibrant first, which I think I've already managed. I'll definitely be trading.
Also, I noticed theres two G2 forums. Which is for the T-mobile version. Thanks again.
There are two phones called the G2. In the UK, there was a phone called the G2 Touch which was basically a Hero or some crap. The G2 in the USA, its this forum here, the G2 and Desire Z forums.
Ok, thanks for clearing that up.
I cannot think of a smartphone of this caliber with better battery life than the G2. I have had the vibrant and battery life was not as good
Thanks for all the replies, guys.
Thought of another question: what vital accessories did the phone come with? I read 8gig san disk class 2 sd. Wall charger, I assume. Car charger? Dock? Ect. Anything else I should know of? I figure I can test everything but wifi if I meet this dude somewhere random.
I am a proud G2 owner, it's a good phone. When my upgrade came I had the option to pick any of the t-mo phones. It was between the vibrant and the G2, but I got it for it's keyboard really... Also the fact that my previous phone was a G1, so it felt like it was the right phone to follow up on. I enjoy it. It does everything I want it to do and then some.
My girlfriend has a vibrant and it's also a fast phone. I've played games and console emulators on it with no problem. Sometimes her phone can be sluggish but she is stock and not rooted so I can't really say that it's the hardware. Only thing I dislike about it is the on-screen keyboard and 3G only data speeds.
If the G2 hadn't existed, I would probably be using a Vibrant. Really though it boils down to what you want in a device and there's a lot of choices out there. I mean why even ask us? Android was created to give you a choice. If you want limited options, go buy an iPhone hahaha.
(Side Note, There's a lot of douche bag's in these G2/Dz forums. Just check out the flame/actual support ratio in Q&A threads)
I'm another that has both. My wife is using my Vibrant right now me opting for either my G2 with Virtuous or my HD2 running Gingerbread. I really like the form factor of the Vibrant and the bigger screen. It's super thin and light and disappears in your pocket. The G2 on the other hand is much much heavier and makes a noticeable bulge in your pocket. Vibrant has a better screen that works better in sunlight. The thing I didn't like about the vibrant was how sluggish it felt in comparison to the G2. Both got me through a day with normal use though I might give a slight edge to the G2 in battery life. I never had a problem with the build quality of the vibrant. IMHO both are good phones. I went with the G2 because I just think it runs better in day to day use. But the weight and form factor have me seriously considering going back to the Vibrant. Honestly I like my HD2 better than either after all this time it's still my favorite piece of phone hardware I've ever used. I just wished it ran Android as good at the G2.
I've owned both, and can list the advantages of each.
Vibrant:
SAMOLED screen looks better
Larger screen (larger phone, too - maybe an issue)
Better sound
More internal storage (with limits - partition doesn't necessarily give more internal app storage since most is partitioned like SD storage)
G2:
Better, more durable build
Both trackpad and speaker grill LED notifications (Vibrant has none)
Functional GPS (huge deal for me)
Both vendor and community supported android development (much better than Vibrant)
Trackpad
Keyboard
Most everything else was the same, but I far prefer my G2 over the Vibrant, with no reservations at all. It's been a stellar performer and the community support is over the top, and the fact that it's Cyanogen's current fave doesn't hurt. I'm also assuming you're rooting both phones, since you're posting here.
I just made the switch last Friday. Vibrant on Bionix V vs G2 on CM6.1.1
The only thing the Vibrant has on the G2 is the screen. I absolutely love the Vibrant's screen.
IMO, you wont see GB on the Galaxy S line for awhile. Why? Galaxy uses RFS natively for its file system. And you can't say that because the Nexus S is on GB, it'll be easy to port to the Galaxy S line.
And lastly, the number one reason I made the switch was because the G2 will see better/faster GB support than the Vibrant. I don't want a phone that is orphaned as fast as the Vibrant has. Shoot, they have the Vibrant 4g now.
rstonex said:
I've owned both, and can list the advantages of each.
Vibrant:
SAMOLED screen looks better
Larger screen (larger phone, too - maybe an issue)
Better sound
More internal storage (with limits - partition doesn't necessarily give more internal app storage since most is partitioned like SD storage)
G2:
Better, more durable build
Both trackpad and speaker grill LED notifications (Vibrant has none)
Functional GPS (huge deal for me)
Both vendor and community supported android development (much better than Vibrant)
Trackpad
Keyboard
Most everything else was the same, but I far prefer my G2 over the Vibrant, with no reservations at all. It's been a stellar performer and the community support is over the top, and the fact that it's Cyanogen's current fave doesn't hurt. I'm also assuming you're rooting both phones, since you're posting here.
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Don't forget that there is no CM support for the Vibrant right now.
Hi guys, I m buying a Nexus One. I just have a few queries regarding the phone.
1: The N1 is running on OS 2.3.6 but the Quadrant scores are around 1100. Is it because its not rooted? Any good custom kernels available?
2: How's the performance of the phone? I mean HD gaming, 3D, etc. I own a Galaxy S and its variant from T-Mobile (Vibrant) and do not want to get disappointed by the performance of N1.
3: Any known issues/checks that I need to do before buying the phone?
Last question: Any hardware/software bugs?
Comments much appreciated.
Thanks,
Dinesh.
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Hi guys, I m buying a Nexus One. I just have a few queries regarding the phone.
1: The N1 is running on OS 2.3.6 but the Quadrant scores are around 1100. Is it because its not rooted? Any good custom kernels available?
2: How's the performance of the phone? I mean HD gaming, 3D, etc. I own a Galaxy S and its variant from T-Mobile (Vibrant) and do not want to get disappointed by the performance of N1.
3: Any known issues/checks that I need to do before buying the phone?
Last question: Any hardware/software bugs?
Comments much appreciated.
Thanks,
Dinesh.
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I can't answering the first two question's simply because I don't really do gaming and quadrant tests on mine.
-The Power Button on the N1 is a problem or could be a problem. You will see several members on here have had this issue. I personally have had to send mine back to HTC to get the power button fixed.
- The touchscreen sucks flat out lol. This is a known issue as well. Only thing you can do is turn it on and off and the screen will be calibrated again.
- Limited room for apps on the internal memory. That is when you do some kind of apps to sd type thing.
Aside from that it really is a great phone. I enjoy mine.
While I love my N1 to death (and will have a seriously hard time parting with it when I decide to upgrade), I can't honestly recommend this phone to anyone anymore. There are sooo many other phones out there with better hardware for the same price or less. The limited internal space of the N1 is a huge downfall. Granted, that can be alleviated a bit with various app2sdext options out there, but that is a hassle. Also, as hogg2500 mentioned, the powerbutton and touchscreen issues are really problematic.
Save yourself the money and get a more modern phone. The N1 is almost 2 years old, and while it was an awesome phone for its time (and it still holds up fairly well the newer competition), for the current price and the specs of the device, I just don't think it is worth it to buy.
lifehijack said:
Hi guys, I m buying a Nexus One. I just have a few queries regarding the phone.
1: The N1 is running on OS 2.3.6 but the Quadrant scores are around 1100. Is it because its not rooted? Any good custom kernels available?
2: How's the performance of the phone? I mean HD gaming, 3D, etc. I own a Galaxy S and its variant from T-Mobile (Vibrant) and do not want to get disappointed by the performance of N1.
3: Any known issues/checks that I need to do before buying the phone?
Last question: Any hardware/software bugs?
Comments much appreciated.
Thanks,
Dinesh.
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1. quadrant scores mean nothing. i mean.. literally.. nothing. dont worry about it..
2. the n1 runs games very smoothly.. havent had any problems as long as you dont have 424252534 apps running at once lol
3.
- the problem of low internal storage means nothing when you have a class 6 microsd with a2sd or s2e
- some people have a power button problem. ive never faced this.
- the touchscreen works. the problem is, sometimes it gets a little weird thinking youre pushing buttons youre not close to lol. on certain kernels it happens often, but on others it rarely ever happens. also, multitouch has the axis crossing problem like most phones from its time. even my buddys nexus s sort of has that problem.
theres not much more i could ask for. (a slide-out qwerty woulda been nice ) although its almost reaching 2 years of age i can still use this phone for a few years. theres nothing new that has caught my attention in both hardware features and design.. theyre just little upgrades here and there. nothing to WOW me..
btw, there are 2 versions. AMOLED and SLCD.. the amoled has very clean looking colours..blacks are BLACK you know but with slcd you get a sharper crisper picture though.
Agree with bass and grimey,
But if you are paying 250.00 or more, actually more than 199.00, I would wait for the Nexus Prime
But, as bass said there are some awesome phones out there, many have Sense which some don't like
I am waiting for the Prime and ICS
Also, depends on your needs and expectations of your next phone--there are two big issues with N1 as mentioned--Pwr Button and Touchscreen are BIG. I also think Signal Strength sucks--IMHO
Go for the desire S,better hardware for the same price,and it looks better!
One of the nicest features of the N1 is the illuminated trackball.
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Go for the desire S,better hardware for the same price,and it looks better!
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i really REALLY wanted this phone but it didnt support AWS (1700mhz/2100mhz) .. but atleast i get a very useful colourful trackball
I just bought a N1 today off craigslist. Glad you asked these questions so i knew what to look for when i was buying. I followed all the advice of the other posters and i didn't find any problems at the time of purchase or after. Granted i've only had it for a few hours but just heed the advice given above check for the problems noted.
My N1 is still going strong. No power button issues, never really had any touch screen issues. Internal storage is a bit small. I think it really depends on what you want it for. As a PHONE (which all these devices really are first and foremost), it is one of the best call quality phones around. I always have a great conversation. Never dropped a call, and no static either, or any issues with voice at all. The earpiece may be a bit low for some, but it's fine for me. All current day apps run silky smooth. I Haven't found one that doesn't work. I haven't rooted it, but I have used "SetInstallLocation 2", so apps that aren't meant to be on the SD I now have there, so room really isn't an issue. I love the trackball notifications. All in all it's a great phone that still holds its own today. The look, feel, and finish makes it 1st class all the way.
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My N1 is still going strong. No power button issues, never really had any touch screen issues. Internal storage is a bit small. I think it really depends on what you want it for. As a PHONE (which all these devices really are first and foremost), it is one of the best call quality phones around. I always have a great conversation. Never dropped a call, and no static either, or any issues with voice at all. The earpiece may be a bit low for some, but it's fine for me. All current day apps run silky smooth. I Haven't found one that doesn't work. I haven't rooted it, but I have used "SetInstallLocation 2", so apps that aren't meant to be on the SD I now have there, so room really isn't an issue. I love the trackball notifications. All in all it's a great phone that still holds its own today. The look, feel, and finish makes it 1st class all the way.
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What notifications app do you use?
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I haven't rooted it, but I have used "SetInstallLocation 2", so apps that aren't meant to be on the SD I now have there, so room really isn't an issue.
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OMG, thank you for this. Had never heard about it (and have remained unrooted). Just gave myself a pile of extra space. Phone seems speedier now, too.
bkrill said:
What notifications app do you use?
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None. The stock notifications work well enough for me. White=Call, Blue=Text, Green=Message. I may have them mixed up, but they flash different for each instance.
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None. The stock notifications work well enough for me. White=Call, Blue=Text, Green=Message. I may have them mixed up, but they flash different for each instance.
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AFAIK stock notifications were all white! (until they stopped working)
geemaan said:
AFAIK stock notifications were all white! (until they stopped working)
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It used to be all white until I think FroYo. They definitely change colors now on stock Gingerbread.
I am torn between subscribing a two year contract between lg g2 and s4. I dont take into account the newer phones cuz they are a lot expensive. Which should I purchase? I am more into camera, games and multimedias. The things stopping me from leaning to lg g2 is the wierd button placement and the non expandable storage. Is it really uncomfortable in using the volume and wake buttons? I had been reading reviews thesee past few days and alot of the says the speaker are weak and its placement is not good. It csn be easily obstructed by hands. But I do think the g2 is better than s4 due to newer processor and gpu. Any advice on this matter? Thanks in advance
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I am torn between subscribing a two year contract between lg g2 and s4. I dont take into account the newer phones cuz they are a lot expensive. Which should I purchase? I am more into camera, games and multimedias. The things stopping me from leaning to lg g2 is the wierd button placement and the non expandable storage. Is it really uncomfortable in using the volume and wake buttons? I had been reading reviews thesee past few days and alot of the says the speaker are weak and its placement is not good. It csn be easily obstructed by hands. But I do think the g2 is better than s4 due to newer processor and gpu. Any advice on this matter? Thanks in advance
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I've had similar doubts recently, and decided to move from Galaxy series to LG.
My first impression regarding buttons position is that there is a perfect reason to put them at the back. I'ts just a matter of getting just on them, and it took one day.
Camera is quite nice, with quality photos in all conditions. If you are devoted mobile photographer, maybe there are some better choices, but for an average user, camera is more that one can expect. (Good camera review)
Speaker is kinda week, and can be obstructed by hands, but, it is not bad at all.
G2 is really a beast, no need to talk about hardware. It isl really a superb smartphone with exceptional screen.
Software is surprisingly nice and friendly to advanced users. I am Cyanogenmod fan, but can live with LG stock ROM without any problems.
If you don't need tons of files on the phone, and don't need long HD video recordings, lack of external storage should't be to hard to live with.
If it means anything, I really believe that currently G2 is a best buy and smart choice
draskome said:
I've had similar doubts recently, and decided to move from Galaxy series to LG.
My first impression regarding buttons position is that there is a perfect reason to put them at the back. I'ts just a matter of getting just on them, and it took one day.
Camera is quite nice, with quality photos in all conditions. If you are devoted mobile photographer, maybe there are some better choices, but for an average user, camera is more that one can expect. (Good camera review)
Speaker is kinda week, and can be obstructed by hands, but, it is not bad at all.
G2 is really a beast, no need to talk about hardware. It isl really a superb smartphone with exceptional screen.
Software is surprisingly nice and friendly to advanced users. I am Cyanogenmod fan, but can live with LG stock ROM without any problems.
If you don't need tons of files on the phone, and don't need long HD video recordings, lack of external storage should't be to hard to live with.
If it means anything, I really believe that currently G2 is a best buy and smart choice
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I can live with weak speakers since usually im using headset. But a photowhore hahaha lol. I tend to snap photos every now and then. But the limited memory makes me think twice. I love lg g2 but I also love saving up video clips so I ca watch them back every free time. And also does the g2 have a good community support with awesome devs? I tried searching for miui for g2 but I found no favorable response
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I am torn between subscribing a two year contract between lg g2 and s4. I dont take into account the newer phones cuz they are a lot expensive. Which should I purchase? I am more into camera, games and multimedias. The things stopping me from leaning to lg g2 is the wierd button placement and the non expandable storage. Is it really uncomfortable in using the volume and wake buttons? I had been reading reviews thesee past few days and alot of the says the speaker are weak and its placement is not good. It csn be easily obstructed by hands. But I do think the g2 is better than s4 due to newer processor and gpu. Any advice on this matter? Thanks in advance
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the S4 is a great phone, but if you purchase a s4 you'll get a Triband version. I just came out of the S4 and the development is no where near where the LG G2 is. The sprint S4 SPH-L720T can use all of the regular S4 non triband (sph-l720) roms, but guess what, no Spark. If your okay with that, then there is alot of roms and development on the S4. However, on the LG G2 they have more roms and they the roms work across all the variants. That is one reason i really liked it.
The LG G2 already comes with a really close AOSP feel. In fact, out of the box there is very much small things you actually have to do to get it to AOSP. And whatever is missing you can get with Xposed Framework. I sure do not regret it. Even the battery life is better on the G2 because its slightly bigger. The AMOLED screen on the galaxy series have started to bother me becaause im a Graphic Designer and the colors are just too vibrant. On the G2 the colors are right on the money as its the same color space SRGB compared to our monitors. Good lucks man, this device is amazing, it does not get the attention it should. I like Galaxy though because the Developing (for the non triband version) is extremely extremely ahead of its game. But, as long as i have recovery, root and of course deoxed and init, kernel and underclocked, im a happy camper. Sorry for any mistakes, i dont wanna go and proofread. lol
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I can live with weak speakers since usually im using headset. But a photowhore hahaha lol. I tend to snap photos every now and then. But the limited memory makes me think twice. I love lg g2 but I also love saving up video clips so I ca watch them back every free time. And also does the g2 have a good community support with awesome devs? I tried searching for miui for g2 but I found no favorable response
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the g2 community is great and the devs are awesome, and offer plenty of support for their roms, there is currently no working miui port for the g2 if that's what you are looking for(there is a v6 port somewhere but it doesn't boot), the 32gb version should satisfy you unless you planning on recording hours of 4k videos(supported with camera mod), also if you are into photography than the stock camera is not all that worth it, root and camera mod will do wonders for the phone
Man no doubt!! G2 is amazing!! is better than S4...
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That is true, G2 win.
As you may see at STUFF.TV G2 is at second place, beating even S5
Same question asked in Facebook android group before buying LG G2 ......
No one said s4 out of 70 comments ......
Now my experience ... No words
Top Notch Mobile ((LG G2 bcz inspired by you ???))
no more Sammy
I switched from the s4 to the g2 o can run cm on my g2 couldn't on my s4
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I spent a lot of time researching these two options. I had a slightly different short list of functionality that I wanted (both that I could or couldn't live without). The G2 has better hardware specs than the S4, as you probably know, and the benchmarks generally beat it (which gets to your multimedia/gaming requirements). But, they're both great phones and i'm sure you wouldn't have problems with either. They are similar, outstanding phones.
I decided on the G2 because of its camera OIS (only android phone that has it, period). And, it consistently got better reviews on almost all photography-type sites than any other android phone (s4 included). I love the camera, it is very good (for a phone). I just put its HDR pictures and videos on a 720p 50 inch TV - they look outstanding. Obviously not as good as a real camera...