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Once rooted, even if running the stock ROM with su permissions, will I be able to even receive OTA updates (Froyo)? Or be solely responsible for flashing the firmware myself? Had a G1 before this but I ended up rooting it after all the updates to 1.6 had been sent out, so I'm unfamiliar how the world of rooting and OTA's collide. I would prefer to do as little modding as possible, even though my vibrant is much more of a high end phone than the G1, it got to a point where I was constantly flashing my phone with new mods and hacks and roms, and it got kind of frustrating having little things wrong here and there. I got my adfree so far, thats enough to make me happy for now.
joe.kerwin said:
Once rooted, even if running the stock ROM with su permissions, will I be able to even receive OTA updates (Froyo)? Or be solely responsible for flashing the firmware myself? Had a G1 before this but I ended up rooting it after all the updates to 1.6 had been sent out, so I'm unfamiliar how the world of rooting and OTA's collide. I would prefer to do as little modding as possible, even though my vibrant is much more of a high end phone than the G1, it got to a point where I was constantly flashing my phone with new mods and hacks and roms, and it got kind of frustrating having little things wrong here and there. I got my adfree so far, thats enough to make me happy for now.
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I'm sure right before the update becomes available you'll hear about it and you can always unroot ...
if you install the OTA, you will download the OTA (which is a NON ROOTED update) therefore making your phone get UNROOTED. now, you WANT do avoid installing the OTA's because they will unroot you, but since you aren't running a custom rom on your phone, you WILL get the OTA from t-mobile, you just have to force urself to DECLINE the install (if you want to keep root) you can update to the OTA release if you want to get rid of root, but if you wait a couple days, someone will have hacked a rooted version of the update.
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if you install the OTA, you will download the OTA (which is a NON ROOTED update) therefore making your phone get UNROOTED. now, you WANT do avoid installing the OTA's because they will unroot you, but since you aren't running a custom rom on your phone, you WILL get the OTA from t-mobile, you just have to force urself to DECLINE the install (if you want to keep root) you can update to the OTA release if you want to get rid of root, but if you wait a couple days, someone will have hacked a rooted version of the update.
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or you can just re-root...correct?
most of the time when an ota update comes out they patch the exploit used to root... this probably will not happen with the galaxy s series phones... 1)Samsung intends to sell 10 million of these phones... 2)It wasnt an exploit, it was left open to begin with
I'm not even sure if T-mobile cares. They allow their customers to post information about rooting their phones on their own forum.
I would post the link but I'm not allowed until my account has been verified.
oh lol, the way i worded my post was inferring that the new update would have "patched" the way to get root, but your responses make me think otherwise lol.
Better safe than sorry if Root is important to you. Wait for a guinea pig to update and verify if root is still an option or not.....
I was wondering the same thing too, but I have deleted most of the bloat ware that came with the brand. So after the ota and unroot, will these programs be reinstalled?
And if I did a factory reset would it restore the bloat ware and unroot the phone?
I got my adfree so far, thats enough to make me happy for now.[/QUOTE]
Is add free really that important? If you don't want a 3mm bar on your screen buy the app. I click the add every time I open an app that is free. If you don't then all the dev will make apple apps... Just kind of selfish if you where to ask me.
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Not like we're getting an update ever. =|
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bauerlucas said:
Just kind of selfish if you where to ask me.
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He didn't ask you.
disturkis4u said:
Not like we're getting an update ever. =|
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Looks like this is the case for the moment. Maybe we will see something soon though, but I still would like to know about my questions.
Charles Sloan said:
I was wondering the same thing too, but I have deleted most of the bloat ware that came with the brand. So after the ota and unroot, will these programs be reinstalled?
And if I did a factory reset would it restore the bloat ware and unroot the phone?
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Rather then making another thread about this, id just like to ask it here.
i know this has been asked about a million times, but i need to make in a million and one.
im rooted, clockwork recovery, mobile ap installed, and JAC kernel. I do not have any custom roms installed. Because of the custom kernel, im guessing that will keep me from receiving OTA?
Hi,
I got my Vibrant and I love it! One question i have though is about root. I want to remove the bloatware but will I lose anything if I root? Touchwiz? Anything?
Also, if I remove the bloatware and happen to reset my phone later, would the bloatware come back?
You will lose nothing and it takes like 2 minutes to root your phone.
rooting has no downside that i know of. if you wipe those apps will not come back as far as i know
Awesome, Thank you both for the info
make sure you back up your data
If i root, will i be able to update when samsung puts out an update or anything such as that?
You will be prompted to update, but the update will break the root.
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You will need to re-root and it will most probably be available before the update. I'm hoping the custom 2.2 rom will be available by then
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So if i just update from a rooted one, it will just go to 2.2 from samsungs without it looking like i ever rooted?
mystycs said:
So if i just update from a rooted one, it will just go to 2.2 from samsungs without it looking like i ever rooted?
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Yup.
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If i root will i be able to uninstall all the crap that came with it? Make the battery run longer, and will i be able to revert at any time if i wish?
Okay i removed the Kindle, MobiTV, Avatar, GOGO, Slacker and telenav. The weird thing is that root explorer doesnt want to set it back to r/o and i had 183mb used, relaunched root explorer and now i have 253mb used...did I do something wrong?
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Also is it bad that i went into data/data and deleted the folders belonging to what i removed?
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I restarted the phone and now everything force closes >.>
How does one uninstall the bloatware while rooted?
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Oskiee said:
How does one uninstall the bloatware while rooted?
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Install Root Explorer from the market and remove the .apks from system/app
Also i heard somewhere to also remove the folders belonging to the app in data/data but im not sure if were supposed to do that x_X
What is the best way to go from a rooted 2.2 to a rooted 2.3?
Dan
I'd love to also, sadly it's not here and may never be.
Just install the OTA update it doesn't matter if you are rooted or not.
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I updated to 2.3.340 while I was in the Verizon store when I got home I tried a slew of one click roots and the only one to get the job done was z4root it worked the first time
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im on 2.2 rooted, but when i click to check for updates it says im up to date. what gives?
you have to be totally stock before it will let you update, if you're build.prop is far enough off it won't even show there is an update.
how do i go back to totally stock on 2.2? I renamed the bloatware .apk's back to the original files, what else is needed?
Would i lose root after 2.2 froyo ota update on 21st? If so, how do i get back to root? Sorry for newb question.
First u probably won't get the ota cuz u are rooted ......u need to odin back to di18 stock for u to get the update... or wait a lil longer to have one of ur devs. Cook some rom ready for our root phones... personally I won't go back to di18 ... but if our devs told us (which I don't think we need to) to do it.. then ill be happy to do it...
And to get root back from 2.2 do the same method u did fro 2.1
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Is the OP on 2.2? I'm still on DI18, and it has been fine for me. I rooted, but that's it. Would I still get the OTA?
It was my understanding that you could get the OTA update while rooted, as long as it wasn't a custom ROM. Someone chime in?
Way to NOT search people, I mean seriously....
But anyway like the last half a dozen threads asking THIS EXACT SAME QUESTION, you cannot OTA unless you are on a stock rom with the stock recovery, if you don't want to revert then wait less than a day and it will be in flashable .zip form.
You should be able to get the OTA if you're rooted on di18 and still have stock recovery. The update will most likely break your root, though. All you will have to do to get root back is run the one-click.
Yes
yonglee09 said:
Would i lose root after 2.2 froyo ota update on 21st? If so, how do i get back to root? Sorry for newb question.
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worldwidepmp said:
It was my understanding that you could get the OTA update while rooted, as long as it wasn't a custom ROM. Someone chime in?
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Correct you will lose root but will get the update. You have to lose any roms also clockwork I think. Not positive so maybe someone else can comment on that.
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Nevermind.
Question: I used one click root, and it deleted the asphalt demo. Using root explorer, I reinstalled the stock app, but it gave me a notice that asphalt was still in the system apps. I know you need to have all the stock apps when updating, so will I have any problems?
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Question: I used one click root, and it deleted the asphalt demo. Using root explorer, I reinstalled the stock app, but it gave me a notice that asphalt was still in the system apps. I know you need to have all the stock apps when updating, so will I have any problems?
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Just odin eb13 when it comes.
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Ya, as other users have said, 2.2 is stock so it should ova update but remove your root (was in thesame situation with my mytouch and 2.2). Of course just superoneclick after you update and you're good to go
Thanks for the question and REAL ANSWERS
Sorry if this has been discussed. I used unrevoked to get super user access to my incredible and now want to delete that stupid slacker radio, vcast, and VZW navigator crap. Do I have to install a rom? I like sense and don't like messing too much with the phone. I have been running stock software on it for almost a year and only just now rooted using unervoked to install a screenshot app. I hate those bloatware apps with a passion but have put up with them ... now that I have root access I can't uninstall using the normal means. Is there a workaround to get rid of them without installing a rom?
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Sorry if this has been discussed. I used unrevoked to get super user access to my incredible and now want to delete that stupid slacker radio, vcast, and VZW navigator crap. Do I have to install a rom? I like sense and don't like messing too much with the phone. I have been running stock software on it for almost a year and only just now rooted using unervoked to install a screenshot app. I hate those bloatware apps with a passion but have put up with them ... now that I have root access I can't uninstall using the normal means. Is there a workaround to get rid of them without installing a rom?
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You can install custom ROMs that basically mirror the stock ROM but it has bloatware removed. Just look carefully.
The sticky at the top of the forum links to a lot of FAQ's like this one
In particular:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=HTC_Incredible/Guides&Tutorials#Removing_Bloat
Even easier, you can use Titanium Backup to do it. Or Root Explorer. Or pretty much any app that can write to the system partition with SU access.
Oh and sorry I am using tapatalk and couldn't find the search feature to reply in thread about bloatware. Accept my apology.
Or, if you don't mind wiping. You can install Nothing Special.
Link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=976933
It's a stock rom with bloat already removed.
BrettApple said:
Or, if you don't mind wiping. You can install Nothing Special.
Link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=976933
It's a stock rom with bloat already removed.
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This is the easiest way IMHO.
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Ok. So if I flash will I get VZW OTA if they push it out of 2.3? ... since I rooted using unrevoked, but if I don't flash will I get the OTA to 2.3?
Guess I'm just worried ill brick it. This thing is my pride and joy and if I broke it I would cry.
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Ok. So if I flash will I get VZW OTA if they push it out of 2.3? ... since I rooted using unrevoked, but if I don't flash will I get the OTA to 2.3?
Guess I'm just worried ill brick it. This thing is my pride and joy and if I broke it I would cry.
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It's almost impossible to brick, it's become so easy to flash roms, root, etc.
Just factory reset if you want to go back. Kinda the point of flashing is to get the latest greatest before it is released. Oh, all all those goodies I am sure they will omit.
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Chris1051 said:
Ok. So if I flash will I get VZW OTA if they push it out of 2.3? ... since I rooted using unrevoked, but if I don't flash will I get the OTA to 2.3?
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The devs here are beating the piss out of VZW OTA's. Just flash a custom 2.3 ROM.
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